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Level 3 has zero effect on your applicationyeah, I'm definitely going to be screened out by programs. My hope is to find a solid community program with an in-house fellowship and then hustle while in residency.
I'd be happy in pulm or as a hospitalist, but if my chances are even 10%, it's still worth it to me to try for pulm/ccm.
Anesthesia is a blood bath this year.....
Looking to figure out how to identify such community programs. Should I just look up programs on residency explorer and visit their pages to see if they offer in-house pulm/ccm?
To what extent if any would a good level 3 mitigate the low board scores? That is if I have a solid level 3, solid research and do well on ICU/wards.
Search backward. Find which community programs have pulm/cc fellowshipThank you both.
What's a good way of identifying uni-affiliated programs or community programs with in-house fellowships? Looking at the bottom of rank lists?
You can’t do anesthesia CCM from IMPulmonary CCM is very competitive and I'm afraid you might get screened with your scores. You might want to consider Anesthesia CCM, although Pulm CCM is more desirable in the job market.
Sure you can. You do IM PGY 1 and then match Anesthesia as a PGY 2. Happens all the time. Or you finish IM, then do Anesthesia. I had a practicing internist in my residency class along with a lady who was formerly Chief resident in IM at Mayo Clinic. Now I agree, matching anesthesia CCM directly from IM residency is not possible.You can’t do anesthesia CCM from IM
I’m literally anesthesia CCM. I know the process. Your original post suggested that he could just apply out of IM without completing an anesthesia residency since you didn’t even mention that.Sure you can. You do IM PGY 1 and then match Anesthesia as a PGY 2. Happens all the time. Or you finish IM, then do Anesthesia. I had a practicing internist in my residency class along with a lady who was formerly Chief resident in IM at Mayo Clinic. Now I agree, matching anesthesia CCM directly from IM residency is not possible.
Also matching anesthesia for a PGY2 “R” spot is also probably much more difficult than matching pulm /CCM. There are so few spots. You’re better off thinking about reapplying the entire 4 years for anesthesia and redoing intern year if you want to go down that routeI’m literally anesthesia CCM. I know the process. Your original post suggested that he could just apply out of IM without completing an anesthesia residency since you didn’t even mention that.
Bruh, this cats worried about matching IM. He/she’s not getting into anesthesia.Pulmonary CCM is very competitive and I'm afraid you might get screened with your scores. You might want to consider Anesthesia CCM, although Pulm CCM is more desirable in the job market.
I get that. I was pointing out other options if OP was set on CCM. Pulmonary CCM is quite competitive and he has low Stats which will make matching good IM programs tough. A year of IM, a couple in anesth, then CCM. Anesth CCM ran all the ICU's at my old uni, except liver transplants.Bruh, this cats worried about matching IM. He/she’s not getting into anesthesia. I understand that. If CCM Is what they want, there are options other than Pulm CCM which is quite competetive.
Getting into anesthesia is significantly harder than IM right now. This is not a good plan.I get that. I was pointing out other options if OP was set on CCM. Pulmonary CCM is quite competitive and he has low Stats which will make matching good IM programs tough. A year of IM, a couple in anesth, then CCM. Anesth CCM ran all the ICU's at my old uni, except liver transplants.
Yes. EM can go into anesthesia CCMEM has a path to CCM right? Wouldn't that be the easiest, or does EM make it harder to get a CCM spot?
It is even harder to match directly into a PGY2 anesthesia spot as opposed to matching a categorical anesthesia spot. That cat is not giving the best advice. There are plenty of former DO IM programs that have former DO pulm crit programs which is way more doableGetting into anesthesia is significantly harder than IM right now. This is not a good plan.
yesshould I be targeting programs with former DO pulm crit programs over low-tier academic uni?
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Prestige doesn’t matter when you’re looking at low tier programs. Just do your best, show interest, and get good letters and you’ll match somewhere.I was thinking ideally I'd would want to match low-tier uni that has its own pulm-crit fellowship, or are you saying I should also rank former DO pulm crit programs over low-tier academic uni if I get that opportunity?
it seems that some of these community programs actually have better match lists in certain fellowships compared to some low-tier academic programs...
does program 'prestige' really matter that much more when comparing these programs?
I don’t think it matters too much between the two. I would scrutinize the list at the community programs with better matches. For instance, are all of those matches FMGs with prior research backgrounds and attending experience in their home country?I was thinking ideally I'd would want to match low-tier uni that has its own pulm-crit fellowship, or are you saying I should also rank former DO pulm crit programs over low-tier academic uni if I get that opportunity?
it seems that some of these community programs actually have better match lists in certain fellowships compared to some low-tier academic programs...
does program 'prestige' really matter that much more when comparing these programs?
should I be targeting programs with former DO pulm crit programs over low-tier academic uni?
will have 3 pubs by ERAS
yeah, usually community programs give better training around here when compared to the academic programs