DO Match List Thread 2021

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VCOM-Auburn match list has been released. Has the names by the match so I don't want to post the list.

Orthopaedic surgery: 2
General surgery: 3
Anesthesiology: 8
Diagnostic Radiology: 3
PMR: 6
Psychiatry: 8
Dermatology: 1
OBGYN: 7
Radiation Oncology: 1
Pathology: 1
Neurology: 1
Internal Medicine: 31
Family Medicine: 45
Pediatrics: 13
Emergency Medicine: 15
Transitional: 5
Yeah, just strip the names out and post the specialties and programs. If it's a pdf or word file you could always crop the names out if possible.
 

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For the people who matched advanced programs it looks like only the intern year is listed.

I'm not sure if that's the case because they listed the advanced program after the transitional year for derm, PMR, DR, and rad onc.
 
So for VCOM-Auburn, I have heard of people who want Ortho doing a research year, but usually, it's at a well-known institution. Is it common to do a research year at DO ortho programs? I could see PCOM and OSUCOM putting out good research, but Modesto doesn't seem like a research-heavy location.
 
So for VCOM-Auburn, I have heard of people who want Ortho doing a research year, but usually, it's at a well-known institution. Is it common to do a research year at DO ortho programs? I could see PCOM and OSUCOM putting out good research, but Modesto doesn't seem like a research-heavy location.
That spot is almost always filled by someone who went unmatched. Modesto has a history of then giving that person a fair chance at staying on as a resident the following year.
 
That spot is almost always filled by someone who went unmatched. Modesto has a history of then giving that person a fair chance at staying on as a resident the following year.
Good to know, I just honestly had not seen it before. Thanks for the information
 
It's also slightly reassuring to see several match general surgery with <550 (one even had <500) and <225 😅
Yes, GS isn’t impossible at that score level. When interpreting the MSU data remember how many GS programs they have in house though, and one must always have a back up plan ready as the match rate in that score bin is roughly 50%
 
Yes, GS isn’t impossible at that score level. When interpreting the MSU data remember how many GS programs they have in house though, and one must always have a back up plan ready as the match rate in that score bin is roughly 50%
Do you recommend applying prelim surg in that situation?
 
So for VCOM-Auburn, I have heard of people who want Ortho doing a research year, but usually, it's at a well-known institution. Is it common to do a research year at DO ortho programs? I could see PCOM and OSUCOM putting out good research, but Modesto doesn't seem like a research-heavy location.

research years for ortho is going to be the new standard. with pass fail boards more and more people will start doing it and it will force everyone’s hand.

our program just hired our first research fellow, and it will likely be a trend for years to follow for those really trying to earn a spot early
 
Do you recommend applying prelim surg in that situation?
Depends on your risk tolerance. Prelim is definitely an option if you fail to match, but finding a categorical spot out of a prelim is more difficult than matching initially, especially with lower stats, as now you're competing with all the other prelims who are trying to do the same thing in addition to the fresh grads. However, I will say that was my plan if I didn't match categorical. I was going to SOAP a prelim spot and then reapply GS and probably Rads the second go around.

If your risk tolerance is lower then I would just dual apply the first time to a less competitive specialty that doesn't require auditions.
 
research years for ortho is going to be the new standard. with pass fail boards more and more people will start doing it and it will force everyone’s hand.

our program just hired our first research fellow, and it will likely be a trend for years to follow for those really trying to earn a spot early
Would you say that 2024 with step 1 p/f and 6 new DO schools/branches matching their first class will end the current route to DO ortho and from that point on requiring a research year?
 
Would you say that 2024 with step 1 p/f and 6 new DO schools/branches matching their first class will end the current route to DO ortho and from that point on requiring a research year?

Not IMO, your rotation will still be the most important factor, although research year will likely boost your application.
 
Would you say that 2024 with step 1 p/f and 6 new DO schools/branches matching their first class will end the current route to DO ortho and from that point on requiring a research year?

not to be rude, but thats literally what I said.

I agree with Dark Horizon in that audition will still be most important, but with more people applying ortho with research years (which means pubs, letters of rec, and possible connections 99% of DO students cant get without a research year) it is likely that the top of the rank list will be littered with people who did a research year + are a good rotator. Plus, the people doing the research years will be the ones getting all the non-rotator interviews after boards are gone.

The other problem is group think. If you see a large number of the gunners going ortho doing research years it will make those behind them more prone to take that leap and it will perpetuate.

This is my opinion. Take it or leave it.
 
Would you say that 2024 with step 1 p/f and 6 new DO schools/branches matching their first class will end the current route to DO ortho and from that point on requiring a research year?
Half of my class thinks p/f boards are good, and I could not disagree with them more, seems like many of them have no idea how this would hinder their careers in a significant way.
 
Half of my class thinks p/f boards are good, and I could not disagree with them more, seems like many of them have no idea how this would hinder their careers in a significant way.
Most DO students are blind to what going to a DO school means and even more blind to what matching into a competitive specialty means.

They will believe anything their school tells them so your comment does not surprise me in the least bit.



One of my favorite comments when boards went P/F (even though it doesn't affect my class):

Me: Man, boards going P/F is really going to make it even hard for the future classes of DO students to stand out in the more competitive specialties.

Clueless know-it-all in my class: That is simply not true, the AOA would never stand for that, they are behind us 100%.
 
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Most DO students are blind to what going to a DO school means and are even more blind to what matching into a competitive specialty means.

They will believe anything their school tells them so your comment does not surprise me in the least bit.



One of my favorite comments when boards went P/F (even though it dones't affect my class):

Me: Man, boards going P/F is going to really make it even hard for the future classes of DO students to stand out to the more competitive specialties.

Clueless know-it-all in my class: That is simply not true, the AOA would never stand for that, they are behind us 100%
I like the ones who think that now with boards going away having an awesome community service app and impeccable interview skills will get them ranked so much higher than the people from better schools with awesome letters from big name faculty. I get premeds thinking that stuff. But your in DO school because those soft metrics didn’t get you into an MD school. That stuff matters less now lol.
 
not to be rude, but thats literally what I said.

I agree with Dark Horizon in that audition will still be most important, but with more people applying ortho with research years (which means pubs, letters of rec, and possible connections 99% of DO students cant get without a research year) it is likely that the top of the rank list will be littered with people who did a research year + are a good rotator. Plus, the people doing the research years will be the ones getting all the non-rotator interviews after boards are gone.

The other problem is group think. If you see a large number of the gunners going ortho doing research years it will make those behind them more prone to take that leap and it will perpetuate.

This is my opinion. Take it or leave it.
We’ve already seen this happen with the integrated plastics match (which is roughly 1/5 the size of the ortho pool). I absolutely can see this trend continuing in ortho. Even looking at the past cycle, some of the most impressive DO ortho matches came via research year applicants.
 
Most DO students are blind to what going to a DO school means and even more blind to what matching into a competitive specialty means.

They will believe anything their school tells them so your comment does not surprise me in the least bit.



One of my favorite comments when boards went P/F (even though it doesn't affect my class):

Me: Man, boards going P/F is really going to make it even hard for the future classes of DO students to stand out in the more competitive specialties.

Clueless know-it-all in my class: That is simply not true, the AOA would never stand for that, they are behind us 100%.
Wow. I’m astonished that some people actually walk around thinking this, let alone saying it.
 
Half of my class thinks p/f boards are good, and I could not disagree with them more, seems like many of them have no idea how this would hinder their careers in a significant way.
I don't think you can make that claim so definitively though. It's certainly possible pf makes it a lot harder to match competitively, but there also could be no change. We can't say with any conviction what the outcome will be. People said a lot of doom and gloom about the merger, but that actually looked like it benefited DOs if anything.
 
I don't think you can make that claim so definitively though. It's certainly possible pf makes it a lot harder to match competitively, but there also could be no change. We can't say with any conviction what the outcome will be. People said a lot of doom and gloom about the merger, but that actually looked like it benefited DOs if anything.
I totally see your point, however, I personally would like to go in expecting hell and see heaven than the other way around 😀.
 
not to be rude, but thats literally what I said.

I agree with Dark Horizon in that audition will still be most important, but with more people applying ortho with research years (which means pubs, letters of rec, and possible connections 99% of DO students cant get without a research year) it is likely that the top of the rank list will be littered with people who did a research year + are a good rotator. Plus, the people doing the research years will be the ones getting all the non-rotator interviews after boards are gone.

The other problem is group think. If you see a large number of the gunners going ortho doing research years it will make those behind them more prone to take that leap and it will perpetuate.

This is my opinion. Take it or leave it.
Okay thanks. One follow-up, how do you even get an audition with boards being p/f , didn't a lot of programs have score cut-offs? will it just be first come first serve and connections?
 
So glad to have gotten out of the DO school cluster. GL to everyone starting soon and if you need a DO gen surg mentor moving forward feel free to reach out
Will likely be PMing you in the future if that's ok lol
 
Okay thanks. One follow-up, how do you even get an audition with boards being p/f , didn't a lot of programs have score cut-offs? will it just be first come first serve and connections?

who knows. probably FCFS

which is basically what it is now at most places
 
who knows. probably FCFS

which is basically what it is now at most places

Out of curiosity what’s the typical research output (pubs/abstracts/posters) for the students who applied/matched at your program?
 
Does anyone know about NYITCOM - AR Match List?

I am trying to choose between NYITCOM-AR and ARCOM
 
Does anyone know about NYITCOM - AR Match List?

I am trying to choose between NYITCOM-AR and ARCOM
They lump it in with the NYITCOM list, but they have pretty good pictures of matches on Instagram. I know, not the best option, but something.
 
They lump it in with the NYITCOM list, but they have pretty good pictures of matches on Instagram. I know, not the best option, but something.

Thank you. Do you know how NYITCOM would compare with ARCOM?
 
Sorry if I missed this - is there a final TouroCOM-Harlem match list? I don’t see it on their website.

I’m currently deciding between DMU and Touro Harlem, if any current students had any insight to add (specifically around rotations and matches!)
 
Wow. I’m astonished that some people actually walk around thinking this, let alone saying it.
15% of the country thinks that satan-worshiping child molesters are in control of our government and financial institutions and that Trump will be reinstated as POTUS in August. I've stopped being amazed by anyone's beliefs anymore :/
 
Sorry if I missed this - is there a final TouroCOM-Harlem match list? I don’t see it on their website.

I’m currently deciding between DMU and Touro Harlem, if any current students had any insight to add (specifically around rotations and matches!)
Touro Harlem
 
15% of the country thinks that satan-worshiping child molesters are in control of our government and financial institutions and that Trump will be reinstated as POTUS in August. I've stopped being amazed by anyone's beliefs anymore :/
I guess I had hoped that there wasn’t much overlap between that population and the population of medical students.
 
what do you guys think the best matches were this year from the DO world?
 
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