Game Thread: Meats's Reading List: WWhat I Read in 2019

[PippyPony]

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But shading me for being busy is a good look!

Are you going to lynch me and keep pocketing Coop and jboo? Or are you just going to keep tossing this crap until other people decide to do it for you

 

[PippyPony]

I mean "late in the day" is kinda relative. If she wanted to cause chaos pure and simple I wouldn't leave three hours to do so. And your reactions have seemed a little over the top to me, which is in your wolf meta. But for me that's a tomorrow problem.

Get out the pockets, Coop - you're in so deep you might suffocate in there some day.

 

[Animal Midwife]

idk I like dubz and Pippy tbh

 

[Coopah]

Get out the pockets, Coop - you're in so deep you might suffocate in there some day.

 

[WildZoo]

Are you going to lynch me and keep pocketing Coop and jboo? Or are you just going to keep tossing this crap until other people decide to do it for you

I'm waiting to see how I feel after reading the pages I skipped. Just because you've creeped up my suspicions doesn't mean you get to skip the line. I am still resolving others.

 

[Barkley13]

It makes my soul sad. I just want her to hold up her end of the bargain so I can evaluate her holistically.

I'm just uncomfortable by it because she was here and posted once but nothing of substance and I can see a couple reasons why for it like I can see it as wolf who doesn't want to defend or villager who doesn't want to defend because they've been mislynched so many times before

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

because I don’t know where to start responding to all of this, I’m just going to say that MOOSE was reading you village, not me

Mreh. Mreh mreh mreh.

*****unlynch jboo lynch BC*******

 

[WildZoo]

idk I like dubz and Pippy tbh

I don't trust your read of either of us any more than I trust coop's read of miz or my own read of MJ lol

 

[Barkley13]

Honestly though I'm fine with any of these lynches since I've had MsP and BC as wolfy and Jmoose on the top of my neutral leaning sketchy list

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm just uncomfortable by it because she was here and posted once but nothing of substance and I can see a couple reasons why for it like I can see it as wolf who doesn't want to defend or villager who doesn't want to defend because they've been mislynched so many times before

It's near impossible for me to read into that though. If everyone didn't defend/share thoughts it'd just be an RNG numbers game and boring.

 

[Coopah]

I don't trust your read of either of us any more than I trust coop's read of miz or my own read of MJ lol

Very fair!

 

[BigCats]

So how about you really prove your villageness and quote a bunch of stuff and show that your wolf read is the best candidate? I'm not really seeing your pack tbh, which is making me lean back towards you instead of jboo. I'm pretty sure one of you is a wolf

I started off suspicious of jboo because I really have no village points at all for them, which is interesting because they have posted a fair amount and I feel like at least something should ring village to me since they were so clearly village last game.

Can’t say I was pro or anti the alissa lynch, but I’m far more comfortable with a Nav lynch

This is weird given context, and the followup post ("Although this is worth noting") is... also weird.

Another one I can't quote since it was the PM snippets you posted, but where jboo said they're suspicious of both me and Wondering due to voting history. An interesting critique coming from someone who's been sitting on a solo vote every single lynch now- reminds me of the classic wolf tactic I used at the start of the noob game to avoid bandwagons I knew would flip villager. "Oh no, I told you guys they would flip villager, that's why I didn't vote for them!1!" Dual function of both avoiding villager lynches as well as distancing oneself from literally any possible packmates- can't be linked to another wolf via voting history if you never vote with anyone else.

 

[Coopah]

I started off suspicious of jboo because I really have no village points at all for them, which is interesting because they have posted a fair amount and I feel like at least something should ring village to me since they were so clearly village last game.


This is weird given context, and the followup post ("Although this is worth noting") is... also weird.

Another one I can't quote since it was the PM snippets you posted, but where jboo said they're suspicious of both me and Wondering due to voting history. An interesting critique coming from someone who's been sitting on a solo vote every single lynch now- reminds me of the classic wolf tactic I used at the start of the noob game to avoid bandwagons I knew would flip villager. "Oh no, I told you guys they would flip villager, that's why I didn't vote for them!1!" Dual function of both avoiding villager lynches as well as distancing oneself from literally any possible packmates- can't be linked to another wolf via voting history if you never vote with anyone else.

That it?

 

[WildZoo]

BC - I have liked a lot of her posts when she's been pressed for more of an explanation, but her actual voting behavior feels sheepy and like she's going with the flow. I thought she was trying to jump on Nav's lynch the first day for the cred knowing that he wasn't going to die, but that doesn't really work with him flipping village

I'm honestly very confused why this is the vote you went with over others who you weren't this hedgey about

Interesting if BC is a wolf then jboo moves way further down my suspect list

What if jboo is wolf? Does that change your read of BC? What is BC is village?

I am going back and forth on that too, but think I'm landing on not taking the word of someone who didn't seem to care if she died in the reaction test

I don't remember why I quoted this. It was the post I read that triggered the thought to look into Pip's posts more though. Not sure why.

Not confident with MsP, BC, or Jboo. Also moderately WZ. Those are my wolf leans right now.

Despite PMing BC a lot in the beginning I didn’t get strong village vibes from her. Nothing strikingly wolfy but nothing that made me comfortable.

I’m sorry Pip but you’re going to get wishy washy right now. I don’t get good information from my role. I pop on in between our appointments and breeding mares. Today is busy. I wasn’t busy yesterday at all but someone went and silenced me and then everyone and their mother decided I was at the top of their wolf reads (which is fun).

Not busy yesterday = could have been developing better reads than this, even while silenced

 

[WildZoo]

I'm still pretty meh on the argument people are using about BC being alive as double voter = BC is wolfy. So every time I see that argument crop up it makes me distrust this lynch.

 

[Coopah]

I'm honestly very confused why this is the vote you went with over others who you weren't this hedgey about

What if jboo is wolf? Does that change your read of BC? What is BC is village?

I don't remember why I quoted this. It was the post I read that triggered the thought to look into Pip's posts more though. Not sure why.


Not busy yesterday = could have been developing better reads than this, even while silenced

Opposites apply

 

[Coopah]

I'm still pretty meh on the argument people are using about BC being alive as double voter = BC is wolfy. So every time I see that argument crop up it makes me distrust this lynch.

Who's saying that? I don't think anyone is?

 

[BigCats]

@BigCats thoughts?

I'm a generous village-reader of miz, to be fair. She seemed fine over PM, which, when integrated with her posts on the thread, seemed like typical village miz to me. True, we haven't talked in a while, but I haven't seen anything from her on thread since then to push her down my list.

 

[WildZoo]

I'm a generous village-reader of miz, to be fair. She seemed fine over PM, which, when integrated with her posts on the thread, seemed like typical village miz to me. True, we haven't talked in a while, but I haven't seen anything from her on thread since then to push her down my list.

Arguable as dangerous as, if not more dangerous than, being so quick to village read Nav lol
I'm just having a hard time integrating your quick read of her with how little she had posted on thread and how little it seems you have communicated in PM at that time

Like maybe the pocketing goes the other way around 😵

 

[Coopah]

I'm a generous village-reader of miz, to be fair. She seemed fine over PM, which, when integrated with her posts on the thread, seemed like typical village miz to me. True, we haven't talked in a while, but I haven't seen anything from her on thread since then to push her down my list.

What? That makes no sense. Why would you immediately read her village? Why are you acting like you always read Miz village?

 

[PippyPony]

Now I'm pissed because I don't like being used for wolf distraction bait like this based on a chain reaction of completely unsubstantiated prejudice.

Honestly pretty insulting to say I haven't been wolf hunting, and there has not been a single piece of actual evidence quoted to back it up. I don't know how I'm supposed to defend against allegations that can't actually be supported by reality.

Edit: ok, now there are two quotes, one of which I have already explained the logic behind, and one of which does not contradict my reasoning or my actions, so I'm not sure why it's getting quoted and apparently neither is Dubz.

 

[BigCats]

That it?

Really not trying to be rude or anything, but I couldn't find an awful lot of posts in here by jboo that were actually content-based. Most of those were "BC and Wondering are wolf because feels". There are a few that are substantive, like the one reads post way early on, but I didn't pick up anything wolfy or villagery from it.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Official I Can Stop Reading Whenever I Want, Okay?! Tally

MsP (4) - SAR, dolph, alissa, Barks
BC (4) - jmoose, Pippy, Coop, Miz
miz (1) - Dubz
Barks (1) - genny
jmoose (2) - BC

It's a TIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

11/14 voting

Missing: 3 lazy peeps

Spoiler

Lynch deadline 7:00 PM PST/8:00 PM MST/9:00 PM CST/10:00 PM EST

 

[BigCats]

Arguable as dangerous as, if not more dangerous than, being so quick to village read Nav lol
I'm just having a hard time integrating your quick read of her with how little she had posted on thread and how little it seems you have communicated in PM at that time

Like maybe the pocketing goes the other way around 😵

What? That makes no sense. Why would you immediately read her village? Why are you acting like you always read Miz village?

I village-read both of them quickly, I've done it in past games, I know it's probably not the wisest thing to do but I'm figuring I won't stop until I get horrifically burned by it one of these days.

 

[Coopah]

Official I Can Stop Reading Whenever I Want, Okay?! Tally

MsP (4) - SAR, dolph, alissa, Barks
BC (4) - jmoose, Pippy, Coop, Miz
miz (1) - Dubz
Barks (1) - genny
jmoose (2) - BC

It's a TIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

11/14 voting

Missing: 3 lazy peeps

Spoiler

Lynch deadline 7:00 PM PST/8:00 PM MST/9:00 PM CST/10:00 PM EST

So this lynch is basically impossible with all the peeps sitting on Ms P

 

[WildZoo]

Now I'm pissed because I don't like being used for wolf distraction bait like this based on a chain reaction of completely unsubstantiated prejudice.

Honestly pretty insulting to say I haven't been wolf hunting, and there has not been a single piece of actual evidence quoted to back it up. I don't know how I'm supposed to defend against allegations that can't actually be supported by reality.

I can't quote posts that aren't there. Not sure what prejudice you are talking about.

I mean, I read through your posts today and you aren't even pushing BC. You gave a one sentence response and then a joke to her posts, haven't responded to anything else or even talked about her other than to say she was sheeping you, which you haven't substantiated.

 

[WildZoo]

I mean hell pip, MsP is one of your top village reads and you made maybe one post in disagreement with her lynch before shading genny for actually trying to save her. I'm not sure you believe your own reads.

 

[WildZoo]

Yeah I think there actually is enough here to go on. Not bait, not wolfy distraction. Just lots of howling.

unlynch miz lynch pip

 

[PippyPony]

I mean, I read through your posts today and you aren't even pushing BC. You gave a one sentence response and then a joke to her posts, haven't responded to anything else or even talked about her other than to say she was sheeping you, which you haven't substantiated.

It started D1 when she jumped on the Sporty vote behind me, I noted it down in my PM but was hesitant about it because she was mislynched last game off of feels-based stuff and she's a really good villager

But I don't expect people to really believe that because why would they

I haven't responded to her recent posts because I am under the gun with school stuff and you started going after me, so I was distracted with feeling like I'm going to have to defend, just like I said was happening

Either way, I am already voting for her and telling people I think it's a good lynch based on her responses this afternoon and the current redirecting, so what else do you want me to do? I can't vote for her twice, so sorry my wolf hunting is not up to your standards

 

[Coopah]

@BigCats how are you reading pip?

 

[PippyPony]

Yeah I think there actually is enough here to go on. Not bait, not wolfy distraction. Just lots of howling.

unlynch miz lynch pip

Enjoy my flip

 

[Coopah]

Enjoy my flip

Dude, you have one vote? I'm honestly not sure why you're so reactive today

 

[WildZoo]

So this lynch is basically impossible with all the peeps sitting on Ms P

What do you mean?

 

[Animal Midwife]

idk I like dubz and Pippy tbh

 

[WildZoo]

purple stuff

AM, have you ever caught pip wolfing?

 

[Coopah]

What do you mean?

double vote. BC is sitting on jboo

 

[Animal Midwife]

AM, have you ever caught pip wolfing?

Yes.

 

[WildZoo]

double vote. BC is sitting on jboo

Ohhh I wasn't sure what "this lynch" was referring to
Yeah it's not a tie if you look closely etc etc

 

[WildZoo]

Yes.

When

 

[BigCats]

@BigCats how are you reading pip?

Hell if I know at this point. Was a fairly strong village read earlier in the game, but these last few pages have confused me and I don't know if it's coming from Pippy or WZ. Still village, but with a side of ???.

 

[WildZoo]

Kinda think if MsP was wolfing she would have thrown some reads together by now
In some ways it's easier to do that as a wolf than as a villager. Sure you get questioned about the logic, but at least there's something there.

 

[WildZoo]

Maybe that's just me though

 

[Animal Midwife]

When

Most recently would be Family Reunion +/- Omitted (if you count a 3p read as a thing).

 

[PippyPony]

Dude, you have one vote? I'm honestly not sure why you're so reactive today

I am reactive because I feel like Dubz pulls this "feelzzzz" stuff on me with some regularity now, and I don't even know how to defend against it because I get called defensive for defending, so like...fine.

She did this in 90s and was also wrong then, and I got the same comments about being defensive, from the same people.

I'm already spending too much time playing and getting **** at home for it + a ton of guilt about school, so rather than try to shadowbox for days, I'm giving a strong defense when I'm able to do so

 

[Coopah]

Kinda think if MsP was wolfing she would have thrown some reads together by now
In some ways it's easier to do that as a wolf than as a villager. Sure you get questioned about the logic, but at least there's something there.

I dunno dude she's not been on like at all. and when she does she doesn't respond to my million tags asking one question. I'm very confused about her.

 

[Coopah]

I am reactive because I feel like Dubz pulls this "feelzzzz" stuff on me with some regularity now, and I don't even know how to defend against it because I get called defensive for defending, so like...fine.

She did this in 90s and was also wrong then, and I got the same comments about being defensive, from the same people.

I'm already spending too much time playing and getting **** at home for it + a ton of guilt about school, so rather than try to shadowbox for days, I'm giving a defense when I'm able to do so

Well no, because I'm the only one saying that you're defensive and I didn't play that game? And I also feel like you say that every time, wolf or villager, that you're getting **** at home for playing too much. Not sure what the purpose is besides guilt tripping people into not voting for you, which I'm pretty sure is the reason for it and as we have all acknowledged is not an actual defense in WW. Sorry about your troubles

 

[Coopah]

Most recently would be Family Reunion +/- Omitted (if you count a 3p read as a thing).

So not very often?

 

[Coopah]

Anyways I gotta study catch you later wolves 😛

 

[Animal Midwife]

So not very often?

Considering there was only one other non-village game after this, it seems fine to me. But I have others, prior to these, where I've caught her if you want to see them.

 

[Coopah]

Considering there was only one other non-village game after this, it seems fine to me. But I have others, prior to these, where I've caught her if you want to see them.

Honestly, no. Because I often disagree with your assessments of what you've done, so it doesn't really matter. You view "caught" as wildly different than me I'm sure. Anyways toodles!