|Programs||Comments||Dates (unspecified what type of candidate)||US MD||DO||non-US IMG (visa needed)||US IMG (no visa needed)||Internal Candidate?||External Candidate?|
|UC Davis||ERAS||7/25 x 3, 7/27x1, 8/1x3||7/25, 7/27, 8/1 x2||8/1 x2|
|University of Iowa||ERAS||7/25x5||7/25 x2||7/25||Yes|
|Memorial Health Care||ERAS||7/26 x7||7/26 x2||Yes|
|UNC||ERAS||7/26x5, 7/27x4||7/26 x1|
|BIDMC (Beth Israel)||ERAS||7/28x2|
|University of Florida Gainesvile||Thalamus||7/29x5, 7/30x1, 8/1x1||7/29||yes|
|Loma Linda||ERAS||7/29x1, 7/31x3, 8/3x1||7/31||8/9||yes|
|Kansas (KUMC)||7/31x10||7/31 x2||7/31|
|NIH||ERAS||7/26x1, 8/1x8, 8/2x2||8/2||7/26||8/2||8/2|
|Yale||ERAS||8/1x20, 8/2x1||8/1||8/1x1||8/1 x2||8/1||yes|
|UMinnesota||ERAS||8/2x2||8/2, 8/5, 8/9||8/2, 8/9||8/5||Yes x4|
|UPMC||Interview Broker||8/3 x7||8/3||8/3x2||yes||yes|
|LSUHSC-Shreveport||8/3x8||8/3||8/3 x2||8/3||yes x2|
|Thomas Jefferson||8/4 x2, 8/8||yes|
|University of Colorado||8/4 x5||8/4x1||8/4||yes||yes|
|LSU New Orleans||8/5||8/5||yes|
|Beaumont Royal Oak||8/8 x 3||8/4x1, 8/8x1||8/8 x2||8/8 X 3||yes|
|NYU||ERAS||8/8 x4, 8/10x2||8/9||yes||yes x 2|
|St. Louis||ERAS||8/8||8/8||8/8 x2||Yes|
|St. Luke's PA||ERAS||8/10 x 2||8/10x4||Yes|
|City of Hope||8/10 x4||8/10x1||yes|
|Baylor University Medical, Dallas||ERAS||8/10x2||8/10 x2||yes|
I mean...we could just do stuff in the thread. But whatever y'all.Not sure how helpful this is but in case this helps folks not on the spreadsheet or folks applying in the future if the spreadsheet ever disappears the way how the 2021-22 one did for a while lol, I'm copying below the table of invitations sent so far as of 8/10/22. Dates listed are the dates when interview invitations were sent.
Programs Comments Dates (unspecified what type of candidate) US MD DO non-US IMG (visa needed) US IMG (no visa needed) Internal Candidate? External Candidate? UC Davis ERAS 7/25 x 3, 7/27x1, 8/1x3 7/25, 7/27, 8/1 x2 8/1 x2 University of Iowa ERAS 7/25x5 7/25 x2 7/25 Yes Florida Jacksonville ERAS 7/26x3 7/26 Yes Memorial Health Care ERAS 7/26 x7 7/26 x2 Yes UNC ERAS 7/26x5, 7/27x4 7/26 x1 BIDMC (Beth Israel) ERAS 7/28x2 Geisinger Thalamus 7/29x2 7/29 x2 University of Florida Gainesvile Thalamus 7/29x5, 7/30x1, 8/1x1 7/29 yes Loma Linda ERAS 7/29x1, 7/31x3, 8/3x1 7/31 8/9 yes Kansas (KUMC) 7/31x10 7/31 x2 7/31 NIH ERAS 7/26x1, 8/1x8, 8/2x2 8/2 7/26 8/2 8/2 Yale ERAS 8/1x20, 8/2x1 8/1 8/1x1 8/1 x2 8/1 yes UMass ERAS 08/02x3 8/2 8/2 Yes UMass Baystate ERAS 08/2x1 UMinnesota ERAS 8/2x2 8/2, 8/5, 8/9 8/2, 8/9 8/5 Yes x4 UPMC Interview Broker 8/3 x7 8/3 8/3x2 yes yes LSUHSC-Shreveport 8/3x8 8/3 8/3 x2 8/3 yes x2 Orlando Health ERAS 8/3 UConn 8/4 8/4 yes Thomas Jefferson 8/4 x2, 8/8 yes University of Colorado 8/4 x5 8/4x1 8/4 yes yes LSU New Orleans 8/5 8/5 yes Buffalo 8/4 ETSU ERAS URochester Thalamus 8/7x2 Beaumont Royal Oak 8/8 x 3 8/4x1, 8/8x1 8/8 x2 8/8 X 3 yes NYU ERAS 8/8 x4, 8/10x2 8/9 yes yes x 2 St. Louis ERAS 8/8 8/8 8/8 x2 Yes Penn State ERAS 8/9 8/9 Yes Montefiore ERAS 8/10 x4 8/10 Yes UMKC ERAS 8/10 Yes St. Luke's PA ERAS 8/10 x 2 8/10x4 Yes Downstate 8/10x2 yes City of Hope 8/10 x4 8/10x1 yes UT Austin ERAS 8/10 Baylor University Medical, Dallas ERAS 8/10x2 8/10 x2 yes
Don’t kid yourself. I forget the exact numbers but I think it’s a 70/30 split private practice vs academia for folks coming out of fellowship, irrespective of where they trained or how much they blathered on about wanting to do translational research in their interview at MSK/Harvard/MDA/etc. Go to a place where the people are normal and not a-holes, where you’ll see a wide range of pathology, and a place that will set you up well to get a job that you want.Currently sitting at what I think are a good # of interviews for top programs. I want the flexibility of being comfortable pursuing private practice or if I do end up liking a niche that I am super passionate about, entering the academia/research track. Would going to top places like MDA/MSK/Hopkins/Penn preclude me from doing so (i.e not set me up for private life because I spend majority of 2nd and 3rd year doing being/clinical research and not in the clinic)? Am I better off ranking places like Duke/UTSW/Vanderbilt/Emory which seem to have slightly more rigorous clinical training with an option of having rigorous academic research if one chooses to go that way? Thanks
I did not do bench research, but did do some research in medical school and honestly here is my impression. I would review the paper enough such that if they ask you about the project you could talk generally about what it was and your role, which will satisfy most normal people.There was a question in the spreadsheet that I'm curious about as I share some similarities: "Anyone know if interviewers (esp at research heavy programs) will ask very detailed questions on bench research not related to oncology? I have authorship in bench research before med school, but I have only done clinical research since med school. Not MD-PhD, haven't actually touched a pipette in 8 years. Trying to figure out how detailed I need to review these bench papers (actually got published recently since we all know bench takes years to come out)."
Wanted to get some thoughts from those who interviewed in the past and if they encountered this issue of being grilled on non-heme/onc related bench work from many years ago?
The most honest PD I experienced during fellowship interviews was at MSK. (It's been almost 15 years so apologies for not remembering the name.)Don’t kid yourself. I forget the exact numbers but I think it’s a 70/30 split private practice vs academia for folks coming out of fellowship, irrespective of where they trained or how much they blathered on about wanting to do translational research in their interview at MSK/Harvard/MDA/etc. Go to a place where the people are normal and not a-holes, where you’ll see a wide range of pathology, and a place that will set you up well to get a job that you want.
I would add that if you know where you want to end up living I would prioritize training in the area - it can be very helpful to have local connections or even just be able to find out the word on the street re: who the crappy practices vs good practices are in your area IMOThe most honest PD I experienced during fellowship interviews was at MSK. (It's been almost 15 years so apologies for not remembering the name.)
When asked about where their grads go during the open question session, he said, "about 1/4 stay here or go across the street (Cornell), 1/4 go to other academic centers and the rest to private practice. We're happy to support them in whatever career choices they make."
Go wherever you want, do whatever you want. You'll be fine. No matter where you train or what your career winds up looking like, the first couple of years out are where the real learning happens.
Are those the actual programs on your rank list or are you just listing programs? If the former, how did you like them? If the latter...c'mon.what is your opinion interest in clinical trial and translational - solid tumors
Those are all excellent programs. Any specific interest within heme malignancies? That’ll help a bit. Myeloma def Mayo. Leukemia/lymphoma wash u Cornell are excellent options. Moffitt is probably good in all but probably has less big names and visibility then say Mayo or wash u (maybe even Cornell). Don’t know much about the strength of bidmc but given your other options would rank it lower
My understanding (from personal experience and people I know) is that WashU is extremely supportive of their fellows and will definitely provide the kind of mentorship you're looking for (will actually demand that you accept it). Duke has the opportunities and can launch you on a solid career pathway, but you're going to have the take the first 2 or 3 steps on your own.Any thoughts regarding wash u vs duke? Interested in learning how to run clinic trials, specifically in heme malignancies. Both sound good on paper and I don't think will hold me back. I think from the interview day at least, wash U seems like there is a close-knit community of rigorous academics but duke seemed as if you can potentially get lost in the weeds if you don't find your people early on.
USC seems to have much less time for research based on their clinical schedule. City of Hope seems to have the most NCI funding and thus research opportunities?How did you like them?
Which one has people doing stuff that interests you?USC seems to have much less time for research based on their clinical schedule. City of Hope seems to have the most NCI funding and thus research opportunities?
I'm not sure USC v Cedars, however--USC is NCI comprehensive and Cedars is not. However they both seem to have similar amounts of NCI funding. I'm not sure which has better research opportunities though. Any thoughts here gutonc?
Research productivity and making sure you have the strongest LORs possible are probably the two biggest modifiable factors.Any advice for those of us that did not match on improving for next cycle. I had only 6 interviews ( 1 very last minute so may be dint have a chance there to begin with) and did not match. There are certain things I can't fix like board scores and I am assuming I will not make the cutoff again next year for certain programs.
Thanks for the advice. Actually those two are my strongest points. I am not trying to brag, I am trying to get a realistic sense. I have quite a few publications as I had couple of years break doing research prior to medical school. I was told I had the strongest recommendations during my interviews. So I am not sure anything else will add in terms of both. What I am trying to say is having 1 more publication when you already have 9 makes any differenceResearch productivity and making sure you have the strongest LORs possible are probably the two biggest modifiable factors.
I am in the same boat, interviewed at 5 programs, and the interviews went very well. Step scores are decent, US-IMG. Unfortunately, I didn't end up matching. Now looking for back up options, currently working as a hospitalist. A few colleagues recommended BMT/Leukemia/Lymphoma fellowship, but not sure which programs would offer these fellowships to internal medicine graduates(Most of these programs have listed hem/onc graduates as being eligible to apply only). I am from NY and cant relocate due to family reasons. Would like some guidance and suggestions on what to do next?
Thank you for the great advices. Appreciate it. I see a lot of geriatrics spot are open in programs. Was not sure if a geriatric fellowship would be more helpful vs non accredited fellowships like leukemia/lymphomas/bmt etc?Thats unfortunate, some other options to explore are following:
1. palliative care or geriatrics fellowship at a place where there is a heme onc fellowship, may have some good interaction, research etc with heme onc fellows and faculty.
2. Heme Onc hospitalist: some places like Iowa and st louis had positions that were hospitalist assigned specifically to admitting Onc patients and i know a few who went on to heme onc fellowships after doing 1-2 years.
3. At your current place pick a research project with the faculty and try to publish something and reapply next year.
4. Some places require Heme/onc for those fellowships that you mentioned but some places dont. They are mostly non acgme, may have a chance. So keep looking around.
Personally think if a place that has a geriatrics fellowship and there is also a heme onc fellowship which is within your reach is better than doing leukemia/lymphoma at a place like Hopkins, Yale, MD anderson etc where chance of matching in heme onc mayne not that high.Thank you for the great advices. Appreciate it. I see a lot of geriatrics spot are open in programs. Was not sure if a geriatric fellowship would be more helpful vs non accredited fellowships like leukemia/lymphomas/bmt etc?
Honestly I’ve had cofellows in my program that did both of those specific approaches (Geriatrics and the MDA Leukemia fellowship) and had it work out. I think I know someone who just worked as a hospitalist at MD Anderson as well while applying but I don’t know how well that helped their application (doubt much).Personally think if a place that has a geriatrics fellowship and there is also a heme onc fellowship which is within your reach is better than doing leukemia/lymphoma at a place like Hopkins, Yale, MD anderson etc where chance of matching in heme onc mayne not that high.