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Karabiner13 said:
stagg also mentioned having a huge presence stand over him which may explain why his action didn't go through (as well as sar dying)

Not all her targets have died

this reads sketch and like you are jumping on an easy lynch

You went from weim on D4 to lupin on D5. What do you think of them both now?

what are your thoughts on bryndy?
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lol, nevermind about stagg. I think I made that circular because I think vmh is on the same wavelength
 
Melchizedek said:
She pocketed me plain and simple. Wanna know how?

Paws dropped into my PM (Mods made it seem like it was because I voted for her but I think it was misleading). I told AM to see how she would react. AM suggested I try asking if there were third parties in the game.
Moot point because Paws said she didn’t know anything (or just wouldn’t tell me anything if she did know).
She’s still chillin in my role PM and we’ve been shooting the breeze. Held off talking about this on thread until I’d thoroughly investigated just in case it was info that would help wolves. After a couple days I think she’s just in the game for shiggles.


Point is, AM telling me to ask that question pretty much solidified my village read on her and her being third party didn’t cross my mind.
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lol
see OTOH, that would have made me suspicious because I feel like AM won't discuss mechanics, converts, 3rd party, until she feels like we're making good progress on OG wolves

so I'm wondering if we're headed for the territory where Mel logic breaks down. I'm trying to decide if this would have really led you to think she was village AM.
 
genny said:
Yes. I am aware of that. That statement is not incompatible with my tinfoil.
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@Crayola227 Thanks for following up, we can move on now.

Karabiner13 said:
stagg also mentioned having a huge presence stand over him which may explain why his action didn't go through (as well as sar dying)

Not all her targets have died

this reads sketch and like you are jumping on an easy lynch

You went from weim on D4 to lupin on D5. What do you think of them both now?

what are your thoughts on bryndy?
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I vaguely remember Pippy confirming in another game she alerts people when theyre acted upon in her games - maybe she didnt this game but I doubt those alive that Skim acted upon just weren’t notified. I genuinely don’t believe her - jumping on bryndi would have been easy to - this feels like your trying to shade me

Lupin more village - Weim still leaning wolf

Bryndi - leaning wolfy, seems more active today - i called her lurky bc previously she was popping in but not highly participatory and I agree with the points about her VCA - I don’t have any strong reasons here

Eta- quote
 
vetmedhead said:
What are your thoughts on a bryndi lynch?
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Didn’t see what everyone was finding so sketch the first day. Has been kinda off my radar the past few days. Currently assuming she’s village and Lupin was a wolf making a big deal out of nothing the first day.

Haven’t read anyone’s reasoning on her if they posted about it in the past two days. I’m just replying to tags.
Crayola227 said:
lol
see OTOH, that would have made me suspicious because I feel like AM won't discuss mechanics, converts, 3rd party, until she feels like we're making good progress on OG wolves

so I'm wondering if we're headed for the territory where Mel logic breaks down. I'm trying to decide if this would have really led you to think she was village AM.
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you can bugger off with your “Mel logic.” It’s AM. I like to work with her. Regardless of affiliation, I’d keep her around if I had an inkling she was chaos for fun. If you don’t want to take my word for it, even Dubz said AM was playing to her village meta.
 
Karabiner13 said:
I'm not convinced skim is a wolf. Her posts and votes have had me leaning her village

Bryndy however, gets this side eye from me for yesterday (haven't fully iso'd her yet, started with yesterday's lynch)







goes off on a lone vote avoiding the major wagons despite stagg (and koffee) only making her feel better about the ability portion. What happened to the former reasons? The timing of that lone vote also feels off considering it was an hour until lynch close and she had been on earlier

only mention of capri before today (that I can find as long as search was being truthful) was when I questioned her on her reasoning for her D1 vote regarding why not consider capri in the math discussion
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*sigh* and how many times have people said vote for whoever you think is most wolfy? Why am I obligated to vote on a major wagon? Especially one that I didn't see the merit behind. You can dislike my voting later in the day all you like, when I'm trying to decide between multiple people who are about equal in sketch I wait until I make a firm decision instead of waffling all over the place.
 
So

"A huge/giant presence"
N1 - Ski
N2 - Dina
N3 - ???
N4 - Stagg (also reported his action not going through that day)
N5 - ???

"A small and formidable presence"
N1 - kara
N2 - ???
N3 - mutts
N4 - capri (according to Capri)
N5 - mutts

muttmanager said:
Short and formidable came back to me last night
Stagg’s action didn’t go through bc he targeted SAR who died that night.

###lynch Skim###
Im not believeing this story - all her targets died? Whatever you are isnt helping village
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Melchizedek said:
Didn’t see what everyone was finding so sketch the first day. Has been kinda off my radar the past few days. Currently assuming she’s village and Lupin was a wolf making a big deal out of nothing the first day.

Haven’t read anyone’s reasoning on her if they posted about it in the past two days. I’m just replying to tags.

you can bugger off with your “Mel logic.” It’s AM. I like to work with her. Regardless of affiliation, I’d keep her around if I had an inkling she was chaos for fun. If you don’t want to take my word for it, even Dubz said AM was playing to her village meta.
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Are you seriously still on me being a wolf?
 
muttmanager said:
Bryndi - leaning wolfy, seems more active today - i called her lurky bc previously she was popping in but not highly participatory and I agree with the points about her VCA - I don’t have any strong reasons here
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I'm not as active as I would normally be but I've already stated that's because of finals so don't expect that to change. I still wouldn't consider myself to be a lurker though
 
Melchizedek said:
Didn’t see what everyone was finding so sketch the first day. Has been kinda off my radar the past few days. Currently assuming she’s village and Lupin was a wolf making a big deal out of nothing the first day.

Haven’t read anyone’s reasoning on her if they posted about it in the past two days. I’m just replying to tags.

you can bugger off with your “Mel logic.” It’s AM. I like to work with her. Regardless of affiliation, I’d keep her around if I had an inkling she was chaos for fun. If you don’t want to take my word for it, even Dubz said AM was playing to her village meta.
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This bit about Mel logic is really like a huge compliment, and if you don't see it that way, bugger off. It also happens to be a decent way that I've caught you in the past. Not saying I've never mislynched you. Just, like I think it's a fair question if I believe that village-you would really find that particular point on AM to be so village.

Also, a lot of us play to win. A lot of us invest a lot of time to make the game challenging by doing our best for our team, be it proper lynches or cold murder. Villagers keeping 3rd parties around, especially ones with kill powers ffs when their true agenda can't be known, just because you have a little clique, is weak sauce.

I'm not the most amazing villager in the world, I do lots of things that are sketch, and if we made a point of lynching a villager for every way they violate the rules of good villaging, I'm sure I'd have a lot of crow to eat. That said, there's a lot of bad villaging that I'd like to see us lynch on principle. Mislynches and dead villagers will happen no matter what, I for one wouldn't mind punishing some of this very clearly anti-village play. Even people just espousing how much they love these heinously bad village moves should be discouraged.

If we're going to lose the game, I'd rather it be because we made a point of punishing crap that will hopefully get people to make choices for the whole team in the future. I get WW is supposed to be fun, but I guess I'm arguing that I'm not sure a lot of people will appreciate the fun of the few outweighing the good of village.
muttmanager said:
It's WIFOM - I can see a scenario where WZ was killed to frame someone likely Capri - which you're falling right in to
If Capri flips village, what will you learn?

I think there is a least 1 wolf between those 4. Not sure who though -

Lynch Lupin
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Enough of this Socratic method from noobs. I'm finding it poorly utilized.
 
genny said:
You're so convinced that bj is village that you're willing to die instead of her?
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I'm not convinced she's village. I have no feelings there at all. So I'm not going to tie it up, or push her lynch unless someone can give me a reason to.

I'm also not going to vote to save myself if I'm going to keep being a distraction to the village.
 
Skimble said:
I'm not convinced she's village. I have no feelings there at all. So I'm not going to tie it up, or push her lynch unless someone can give me a reason to.

I'm also not going to vote to save myself if I'm going to keep being a distraction to the village.
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So you aren't sure bryndi is village, but will let yourself die even though you KNOW you are? That doesn't make any sense to me.
 
cubsrule4e said:
Sorry, had been waiting all day to hear back from genny, and now I’ve reached my brewery destination and started imbibing. Let me check for genny reply and come up with a vote
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this reads as extremely as buddying up (where wolves attempt to buddy up to a villager, is not exactly synonymous with pocketing as far as terms go, it's one of many techniques used to pocket)
 
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Day 6 Lynch Tally

bryndi (6) - cubs, Lupin, Weim, Kara, meats, genny
Skim (7) - Ski, Coffee?, Dina, Mel, bryndi, MJ, mutts
meats () -
Mel (1) - Skim

14/18
lynch close in ~1 hour
Skim, you are in the lead!

Missing: Snowy, Cray, MSU, killer
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vetmedhead said:
I'm operating on the assumption that there is a double kill since we've had two alternating nights with two deaths

also the theory I was presented kind of doesn't make sense if I assume the wolves didn't have a double kill

do you have a reason to think there is a second party aside from the wolves with an extra kill ability? :thinking:
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what's strange is how we've had two rezzes as well, I don't know if that's to balance the extra kills, we had a chaos with extra kills, and a villager with kills, it's a lot of kills

I don't know if the rezzer is a human (NOT trying to fish here) it's more that I'm wondering if there's a resurrection mechanics, sorta like the game that shall not be named, rezzes are not always the work of a single player's ability, it can be items, it can be something unlocked by various events, etc

maybe this is unfruitful NKA, and I'm not trying to convert hunt, but yeah, I guess I'm just doing my worthless PbPa (one of my little mafia wiki articles said it was next to useless technique 🙁 ) and I think it's relevant to consider kill and rez mechanisms as far as keeping my eye on the rezzes and what all this might be a clue for affiliation

also, 1 hr to deadline and 8 pages behind. Balls.
 
whoa!!!!

CALLING ALL PLAYERS

why Skim and BJ today? what happened to Lupin and Kara as candidates? did I miss a big reveal? please explain why you are voting these peeps if it isn't totally clear on the preceding pages
 
cubsrule4e said:
Bryndi (5) - Karabeans, meats, snowy, Lupes, coffee

Theres gotta be some Red in here somewhere, if not bryndi herself. Zigs flip makes me look a little less at kara.



Lets find out more about them then, shall we? I havent been on the bryndi sketch train at all so

Lynch Coffee

Care to join me for a third day in a row, Ski?
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kara quoted this yesterday

holy buddying up to Ski batman

uh, Cubs, why are you trying to be her bestie? Did I miss something? PM partners?
 
SkiOtter said:
Which is the bad part of town? With or without?
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Given that there was one by my high school that happened to be across the street from the friendly neighborhood pornography emporium, I'm going to go with "with"

Although the Waffle House Index is one of my favorite disaster severity measures
 
genny said:
You're so convinced that bj is village that you're willing to die instead of her?
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Lupin21 said:
So you aren't sure bryndi is village, but will let yourself die even though you KNOW you are? That doesn't make any sense to me.
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isn't skim one of those that votes for their wolf reads regardless of self prez or am I thinking of someone else?

also where'd bryndy go? She's in close second and has barely tried to get people to not vote her
 
Skimble said:
I'm not convinced she's village. I have no feelings there at all. So I'm not going to tie it up, or push her lynch unless someone can give me a reason to.

I'm also not going to vote to save myself if I'm going to keep being a distraction to the village.
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you could try reading my posts from today and see if you see what I'm seeing
 
Crayola227 said:
whoa!!!!

CALLING ALL PLAYERS

why Skim and BJ today? what happened to Lupin and Kara as candidates? did I miss a big reveal? please explain why you are voting these peeps if it isn't totally clear on the preceding pages
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kara and lupin were both on capri's lynch, and she flipped wolf.

skimble was revealed as an ability mimic. we've already got a dead village ability seer, does the village also need an ability mimic?
bj has been sketch city in my opinion.
 
Lupin21 said:
So you aren't sure bryndi is village, but will let yourself die even though you KNOW you are? That doesn't make any sense to me.
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I feel like I will continue to be a distraction if I live.

I'm voting for the person I find most wolfy at this time. I have asked for reason's to vote bj, but I'm not going to tie it up and risk possibly two villagers dying.

My schedule is going to be crazy again starting on Monday, so maybe it's better for me to die, so you can all concentrate on finding the real wolves. Sometimes it's better to sacrifice yourself for the benefit of your "team"/faction.
 
Karabiner13 said:
isn't skim one of those that votes for their wolf reads regardless of self prez or am I thinking of someone else?

also where'd bryndy go? She's in close second and has barely tried to get people to not vote her
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Not gonna agree there then. Especially when we've lost too many villagers already.
 
genny said:
kara and lupin were both on capri's lynch, and she flipped wolf.

skimble was revealed as an ability mimic. we've already got a dead village ability seer, does the village also need an ability mimic?
bj has been sketch city in my opinion.
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@Crayola227 can read my posts from today to get my take on bryndy
 
Karabiner13 said:
also where'd bryndy go? She's in close second and has barely tried to get people to not vote her
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This is what's currently worrying me, it feels too much like she's hoping skim will go down and she can barely get by without much aggressive defending

Skim has certainly been trying to defend at the very least, and while she's still a question I'd like to see answered it is making me feel better about her than bryndi atm
 
Skimble said:
I'm not convinced she's village. I have no feelings there at all. So I'm not going to tie it up, or push her lynch unless someone can give me a reason to.

I'm also not going to vote to save myself if I'm going to keep being a distraction to the village.
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we already had one tie with bryndi in this game, and she didn't die in that one.
 
genny said:
Who's the wolf in this situation, in your opinion?
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mutt manager has more than once extolled the virtues of Ski, ski doesn't seem to be equally in love

I'm reading muttmanager as the wolf buddying up to ski in this scenario, it feels w/v but it could be w/w, I just think it's less likely that wolfy ski would let wolf cub mutt buddying her so much on the open thread, but WIFOM anything is possible

I have more thoughts on mutt, about how I could be biased or I question if as a wolf he would be able to put this much thought into some of what they're saying, which is why I haven't pulled the trigger there yet, if someone else I lean village on makes a better case then I would feel more confident moving forward on them, as it would provide maybe less charged confirmation on my suspicions

I'm not doing that thing where I read each page moving *backwards* while also still keeping up with new posts... it's gonna be confusing but I'm trying to absorb as much as I can as we get closer to deadline
 
Crayola227 said:
mutt manager has more than once extolled the virtues of Ski, ski doesn't seem to be equally in love

I'm reading muttmanager as the wolf buddying up to ski in this scenario, it feels w/v but it could be w/w, I just think it's less likely that wolfy ski would let wolf cub mutt buddying her so much on the open thread, but WIFOM anything is possible

I have more thoughts on mutt, about how I could be biased or I question if as a wolf he would be able to put this much thought into some of what they're saying, which is why I haven't pulled the trigger there yet, if someone else I lean village on makes a better case then I would feel more confident moving forward on them, as it would provide maybe less charged confirmation on my suspicions

I'm not doing that thing where I read each page moving *backwards* while also still keeping up with new posts... it's gonna be confusing but I'm trying to absorb as much as I can as we get closer to deadline
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now I am very confused, because you quoted a post by cubs about me, and said that it sounded like a wolf buddying up. but you meant to talk about mutts and ski, not me and cubs?
 
Karabiner13 said:
isn't skim one of those that votes for their wolf reads regardless of self prez or am I thinking of someone else?

also where'd bryndy go? She's in close second and has barely tried to get people to not vote her
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vetmedhead said:
This is what's currently worrying me, it feels too much like she's hoping skim will go down and she can barely get by without much aggressive defending

Skim has certainly been trying to defend at the very least, and while she's still a question I'd like to see answered it is making me feel better about her than bryndi atm
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I'm here, dunno what you want me to say. I've answered the questions directed at me, you all want to vote for me then have at it
 
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