Ice Cream WW Game Thread

[Lawpy]

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Gone and eaten are @Dr. ForgotToFlush, pistachio ice cream and vanilla townie and @nyanko, chocolate ice cream and mafia blocker.

It is still Day 3.​

 

[genny]

How the heck is chocolate a wolf? That's the best ice cream flavor!

 

[genny]

i feel like you usually read me better than this, so it weirds me out a little. maybe i've just been busier and said less than i think i have.

Also, I feel better about this observation now. There was a reason to be weirded out.

 

[Animal Midwife]

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Blueberry Frozen Yogurt Tally
MsP (1) - dubz
Paws (1) - kras

2/8
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[mizchiefmanaged]

Bird is ok-ish at the moment. Going back to read nyan interactions.

 

[WildZoo]

How the heck is chocolate a wolf? That's the best ice cream flavor!

Wrong

 

[genny]

Wrong

omg that's so wolfy of you

 

[WildZoo]

Hmmm well my +/- ny should have been a ++ I guess

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Is nyan the busser type or the protector type?

 

[WildZoo]

omg that's so wolfy of you

No no, wolfy would like chocolate. Silly.

 

[kraskadva]

I haven't even votes yet today
Edit to add: are you referring to me asking questions?

@kraskadva
Follow up questions: how do you expect people to game solve by not questioning others? What pressure have I applied that is indiscriminate?

Also just a WW-life tip: other villagers will vote you, question you, and pressure you. This doesn't make them woofy it means they are working through their opinions about you. You will also get lynched village. It happens. But also guess what: they won't all be wolves on your lynch and it may even all be villagers

Not asking questions per se, but how the questions are asked. I read how I read.

Also your tip comes across as condescending and I'd appreciate if you wouldn't do that. I know how the game is played, and even if I didn't I'm allowed to read whatever I want into people's posts, just as everyone else is.

 

[genny]

Is nyan the busser type or the protector type?

Yes.

(depends on the game?)

 

[WildZoo]

Is nyan the busser type or the protector type?

Been too long since I've seen her wolf, I don't really remember

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Yes.

(depends on the game?)

Lol well. That sucks.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

i actually think coop might be laying it on a little too thick, idk. like to put some different kind of pressure there maybe?

lynch coopah

also does village miz usually do the thing where she notifies the thread that she might not be around later because she definitely did that as a wolf

miz, genny and coop are on my radar right now

i have no idea how FTF typically plays so trying to go by his interactions but hard to read that without knowing coop's flip to me imo

AM's flip tells me literally nothing, no idea why she would have been targeted

maybe i'm dense but i don't see where she was hinting that she had a PR like sporty said?

i'd like to see some content from the person who subbed in for coopah @StayingPositive2017 since that was one of my top wolfy reads

“bussed” party above, “defended” party below

i feel like barks can be an easy lynch sometimes and i always feel the urge to really look at why we are voting for those people

it's the same thing that i used to see with skimble XD

i think last game was kras's first game and she basically got sacrificed by wolf miz going after her

prior to that she had some decent insight iirc

as far as her patterns of activity i think they were similar last game too

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Maybe somebody will remember what she tends to do and that will be helpful to them.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Also I’m starting to feel that role names are absolutely not useful for alignment this game. Unless anybody has a running list of Lawp’s favorite/least favorite flavors.

 

[WildZoo]

Also I’m starting to feel that role names are absolutely not useful for alignment this game. Unless anybody has a running list of Lawp’s favorite/least favorite flavors.

I'm actually 100% sure this discussion occurred at some point and flavors were ranked, but I 1) can't remember where and 2) can't remember if lawpy actually contributed or if he just asked everyone else

Useless post is useless, I know

 

[WildZoo]

So in any case best just to treat roles as NAI at this point

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I'm actually 100% sure this discussion occurred at some point and flavors were ranked, but I 1) can't remember where and 2) can't remember if lawpy actually contributed or if he just asked everyone else

Useless post is useless, I know

Found it but I couldn’t find his rankings. So bleh.

 

[JustPaws]

“bussed” party above, “defended” party below

Are you saying she defended barks? Didn't she flip village?

Again, this post makes me want to vote you.

Right now I've got kras and miz woofy. Will do my read through today after noon and hopefully give thoughts and finish the trackers.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Are you saying she defended barks? Didn't she flip village?

Again, this post makes me want to vote you.

Right now I've got kras and miz woofy. Will do my read through today after noon and hopefully give thoughts and finish the trackers.

Yes that’s what I’m saying. I just found literally every post where she either defended someone or tried to go after someone.

 

[Stagg737]

Jeebus people, I know the salt royalty haven't been around but that doesn't mean everyone has to try and steal the throne...

 

[Stagg737]

Just overall, I want to hear what stagg thinks of genny and what genny thinks of stagg. In my opinion they could be a pack or it could just be one of them. Still puzzling that part out.

I already said what I thought of Genny, and that hasn't changed at all since I posted it. Here's the post to refresh your memory:

Also have Genny in my wolfy pile right now. She didn't have any feels and has had minimal contributions. Plus this quote seems like a pseudo-contribution:

The post I was referencing is the one where she said, "I'm uncomfortable with the lead that Sporty has in voting." At that point Sporty only had 3 votes on her (shortly after that the 3-way tie happened) and the wording felt weird to me. Maybe it's because of how I initially interpreted it, but it still felt off to me.

Never really went back and re-read, so going to do that today since work is super slow at the moment. For now

Lynch Ms. P

@Ms Procrastinator , where you at?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I already said what I thought of Genny, and that hasn't changed at all since I posted it. Here's the post to refresh your memory:



The post I was referencing is the one where she said, "I'm uncomfortable with the lead that Sporty has in voting." At that point Sporty only had 3 votes on her (shortly after that the 3-way tie happened) and the wording felt weird to me. Maybe it's because of how I initially interpreted it, but it still felt off to me.

Never really went back and re-read, so going to do that today since work is super slow at the moment. For now

Lynch Ms. P

@Ms Procrastinator , where you at?

Can we all not try to reach majority on my vote until 3. If I don't provide reads by then feel free to lynch me. My reads are coming together.

 

[Stagg737]

Can we all not try to reach majority on my vote until 3. If I don't provide reads by then feel free to lynch me. My reads are coming together.

Majority is 5, so I don't think you have to worry about that yet, but I definitely need to hear more from you since iso'ing you shows your only read all game has been that FTF was leaning village because he was being goofy.

 

[genny]

Majority is 5, so I don't think you have to worry about that yet, but I definitely need to hear more from you since iso'ing you shows your only read all game has been that FTF was leaning village because he was being goofy.

It was a good read though

 

[genny]

I already said what I thought of Genny, and that hasn't changed at all since I posted it. Here's the post to refresh your memory:

So you think Ny was going to bus me?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Had time to catch up in the afternoon, then got pulled away because it was my hubby's bday and didn't get back in time to vote.

Also I'm a M3, so any activity patterns y'all want to read into my posting habits are 100% explainable by an IM rotation, but read away if it makes you feel better.

For some reason I thought you were a vet

 

[JustPaws]

D1 Lynch progression
Coop (1) - AM
Miz (1) - Barkley
WZ (1) - Sporty
Stagg (1) - genny
Wz (2) - sport, kras
MPM (1) - miz
FTF (1) - coop
AM (1) - Ny
AM (2) - Ny, Nav
Coop () - AM
Nav (1) - AM
Nav (2) - AM, FTF
FTF () - coop
AM (3) - ny, nav, coop
AM (2) - ny, nav, coop
Unlynch MsP - miz <-----------this was weird
MPM () - miz
Miz () - bark
FTF (1) - bark
Nav (3)- AM, FTF, WZ
Barks (1)- coop
Wz (1) - sporty, kras
FTF (1) - bark, sporty
Sporty (1) - Stagg
WZ (2) - MPM
Nav (4) - AM, FTF, WZ, Miz

End of day one.

@Ms Procrastinator did not vote

 

[JustPaws]

For some reason I thought you were a vet

Oh, glad to see you. Do you have reads? Is there a reason you haven't voted two days in a row?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I said this before and I’m gonna say it again. My phone autocorrected MPM to MsP since I’ve played the last several games with MsP (wolf/mason so in close contact) and I haven’t played a game with MPM in months. Even if it was a “slip” what would that mean?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

anyway the barks kill is fine for my poe I guess
a very weird kill to make but i'll see after breakfast how things are shaping up
im getting closer and closer to feeling like im being pocketed somewhereeee
also why are people still giving MsP all this free time jesus

every single interaction ive seen involving her has been
"im waiting for MsP to post more"
how long are you gonna wait?

I have to say that this right here has me concerned. Why did you guys let me live so long without contributing? It say a lot about the lynches and wolves I think. So far my wolves are dubz and mpm. I've got miz as neutral

Lynch MPM Your lynch votes are weird af. Might go dubz too.

 

[JustPaws]

Day 2 Lynch progression
Coop (1)- Ny
MsP (1) - FTF
Sport (1) - WZ
WZ (1) - coop
Sport (2) - Barks
MPM (1) - genny
sport (3) - WZ, Barks, miz
miz (1) - sport
WZ () - coop
sport (4) - WZ, Barks, miz, coop
sport (3) - WZ, Barks, miz, coop
barks (1) - WZ
WZ (1) - MPM
sport (2) - Barks, miz, coop
MPM (2) - genny, coop
WZ () - MPM
miz (2) - sport, MPM
sport (1) - Barks, miz <---------again doesn't remember who she's voting for
MPM (3) - genny, coop, miz
sport (2) - barks, stagg
miz (1) - sport, MPM
sport (3) - barks, stagg, MPM
MPM (2) - genny, coop, miz
sport (4) - barks, stagg, MPM, miz
miz () - sport
MPM (3) - genny, coop, sport

End of Day 2, MsP and kras don't vote (second day no vote for MsP)

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Also I’m starting to feel that role names are absolutely not useful for alignment this game. Unless anybody has a running list of Lawp’s favorite/least favorite flavors.

And coffee. Coffee's a mod too. I think.

 

[WildZoo]

unlynch msp Lynch kras

 

[JustPaws]

Day 3 Progression as of 3:33
MsP (1) - FTF
MsP (2) - FTF, WZ
MsP (1) - FTF, WZ
WZ (1) - FTF
Paws (1) - kras
FTF and Ny Modkilled
WZ () - FTF modkilled
MsP (2) - WZ, stagg
MPM (1) - MsP
MsP (1) - WZ, stagg
kras (1) - WZ

 

[JustPaws]

Official D1 FINAL

Coops () -
Mizzy () -
WZ (2) - kras, mpm
Stagg (1) - genny
mpm () -
FTF (2) - Barky, Sporty
AM (2) - nyans, Nav
Nav (4) - AM, FTF, WZ, mizzy
Barky (1) - Coops
Sporty (1) - Stagg

13/14 voting missing MsP

D2 FINAL TALLY

Coops (1) - nyans
MsPro (1) - FTF
Sporty (4) - barky, Staggs, mpm, mizzy
WZ () -
mpm (3) - genny, Coops, Sporty
mizzy () -
Barky (1) - WZ

10/12 voting missing MsP and kras


Thread thoughts after full read through

Why is that?

slight village lean for stagg, had same thought

Delicious
Dubz - duh, and/or, hello
Coop - that 100% authentic village coop agitation
Miz - I had a reason here but I forgot it. Feels?
Mpm - appreciated her reasoning and content on reread
flushy - too obnoxious to be a wolf
Ny - just barely past the need more flavor category, would like a few sprinkles, but for now I detect no significant difference from the recent village!ny games

needs more flavor
Genny - hi Genny, how are you, how are your reads? Not discounting that AM could have died because she discussed going after gengen
Kras - need more content
MsP - need more content
Stagg - ruminating on his argument against me, weighing it, seeing if it seems couched in village motivation or more like total bull****

Indigestion
Sport - because AM is dead
Barks - because flushy was really low-hanging d1 fruit, feels like a vote a wolf would make when trying to avoid the most argumentative options

WZ have you posted new reads?

This whole interaction is reading either w/w or v/v to me. Have WZ leaning slightly village based on a few posts yesterday so leaning a bit more v/v on this.

I think this was the post that had me wondering if there was a pack, miz soft clearing WZ?

idk about kras but for me it seems like she's leaning really hard into the STOP READING ME AS VILLAGE EARLY thing that she did towards the middle/end last game so 'trying too hard' vOv

I think this was ny supporting or answering for kras. need to go check this quote again

Last game when MsP was a wolf she seemed helpful is short bursts and this game she hasn't contributed anything so something to keep in mind

Barks having feels for MsP

i feel like barks can be an easy lynch sometimes and i always feel the urge to really look at why we are voting for those people

it's the same thing that i used to see with skimble XD

Miz quoted this as defense of barks but then on re-read i realized its Ny shading WZ

Lynch Sporty

I like MPM or Sporty right now, but Idk how good I am at reading MPM and I feel pretty comfortable with reads on Sporty. Would still like to hear why Miz, as I've been keeping an eye on her after the Nav flip and I'm not seeing her as wolf (though she did also completely fool me in plants, so not ruling her out). Also looking at Dubz still and Genny, but my two leading picks both think she's sketchy, so I'd like to see one of them flip first.

If MPM came up woofy, this would make me want to look at stagg for not going that direction when I think MPM was in the lead, and instead added to sporty who only had one vote at the time

i don't get how the f it's heavy handed to say i don't see much difference from how kras is playing this game from last game
even said it was prob NAI anyway
she posted a list of observations a few times and her activity patterns are the same to me? like why are you so insane about this?

This was clearly pushing on FTF, but wondering how to interpret the change on kras from "same" to NAI

So you think Ny was going to bus me?

I don't understand why you asked this. When did Ny mention you and why would stagg think Ny was going to bus you?

@mizchiefmanaged and @mypetmoose what are your reads on WZ please?

 

[Stagg737]

Finished my re-read. Lots of things incoming, will try and break it into multiple posts so it's more readable.

Because I'm interested to see what happens with a broken tie

Also 100% forgot about time zones and thought I would be around for the last hour of lynch, now I'm not sure I will be

I'm still confused about everything surrounding the D1 vote. You said you were interested to see what would happen in a broken tie, but immediately posted that you might not be around for lynch close. What did you get out of the D1 results and breaking the tie?

Just means I have slightly more feels for Nav and a Nav flip will give me more info on flushy. I tunnel flushy a lot. Village Nav makes village flushy more likely to me.

Paws just touched on it again, but I never got a response to this. I'd like one now please.

 

[Stagg737]

I also see a weird thing between Miz, FTF, and WZ that I can't really explain.

Have any further thoughts on this now that FTF has flipped?

I actually have my reasonings on why I voted dubz over FTF today. Dubz was the cornerpiece of one group (dubz and coopah +/- miz) and FTF the other. I didn't explicitly say that, but it made sense to me in my head.

Plus, it seemed, at the time, like more people would be willing to vote Dubz vs FTF so I went there in order to try to get something done today- which didn't happen. When that didn't happen and someone was willing to go miz, I decided to try that instead since she was also on my list.

It is not exactly a crazy train of thought.

This would have been nice earlier, but appreciate the clarification. Again, since FTF flipped village, what are your thoughts on your other group? What is your current wolfpack now that Ny flipped?

Process of elimination based on my village reads leaves me with genny, Msp, kras, stagg, +/- ny

Again, now that Ny has flipped, what are your thoughts on the rest of those you listed? I'm particularly interested in thoughts on Genny and now Ms. P since she posted reads.

 

[Stagg737]

when they really were killing her because she was right about things

This is interesting, tell me more.

Can we lynch barks yet? K thanks.

Other than the FTF vote, why did you think Barks was so wolfy?

i'd like to see some content from the person who subbed in for coopah @StayingPositive2017 since that was one of my top wolfy reads

Given Ny's flip, this comment was interesting to me also. Still trying to figure out if it actually means something or is just feels, but quoting it to come back to.

 

[Stagg737]

It still weirds me out that the word affiliation and alignment changed here. Not sure why either of them would have changed it, and AM was village and dead so likely not going to get any info on this

Why does this weird you out so much? Just a feeling or is there an actual reason?

D1 Lynch progression
Coop (1) - AM
Miz (1) - Barkley
WZ (1) - Sporty
Stagg (1) - genny
Wz (2) - sport, kras
MPM (1) - miz
FTF (1) - coop
AM (1) - Ny
AM (2) - Ny, Nav
Coop () - AM
Nav (1) - AM
Nav (2) - AM, FTF
FTF () - coop
AM (3) - ny, nav, coop
AM (2) - ny, nav, coop
Unlynch MsP - miz <-----------this was weird
MPM () - miz
Miz () - bark
FTF (1) - bark
Nav (3)- AM, FTF, WZ
Barks (1)- coop
Wz (1) - sporty, kras
FTF (1) - bark, sporty
Sporty (1) - Stagg

end of page 4. will come back to finish, but baby woke up from nap so im out.

You've quoted this twice, what was weird about the typo to you?

Again, this post makes me want to vote you.

Why?

 

[Stagg737]

It was a good read though

Not really? She said she was leaning village on 1 person. More often than not that guess will be right, so I don't really given any credit for being 1/1 on a village feel. If she'd been 1/1 on a wolf that would have piqued my interested more, but not a soft village read.

So you think Ny was going to bus me?

Reading back Ny only mentioned you once as being on her sketch list and never mentioned voting for you. Not sure if this is a Freudian slip or just a poorly worded question, but it doesn't make me feel any better about you.

 

[JustPaws]

Why does this weird you out so much? Just a feeling or is there an actual reason?



You've quoted this twice, what was weird about the typo to you?



Why?

It was just weird. A feeling, not sure what it means if anything.

When I was quoting it I was really feeling a miz lynch but after the full reas I'm just not sure.

After the read through, I had quoted several ny quotes, but miz had quoted them all. It made me feel better about her mass quote and gave me context to them

 

[Stagg737]

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So do you believe that both Dubz and Miz are village or do you think there were more wolves involved in the top 3 on D1? Because your notes contradict each other there. What are your thoughts on Kras?

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How would NK'ing Barks soft clear Dubz? Seems like WIFOM to me.

 

[mypetmoose]

Official D1 FINAL

Coops () -
Mizzy () -
WZ (2) - kras, mpm
Stagg (1) - genny
mpm () -
FTF (2) - Barky, Sporty
AM (2) - nyans, Nav
Nav (4) - AM, FTF, WZ, mizzy
Barky (1) - Coops
Sporty (1) - Stagg

13/14 voting missing MsP

D2 FINAL TALLY

Coops (1) - nyans
MsPro (1) - FTF
Sporty (4) - barky, Staggs, mpm, mizzy
WZ () -
mpm (3) - genny, Coops, Sporty
mizzy () -
Barky (1) - WZ

10/12 voting missing MsP and kras


Thread thoughts after full read through


slight village lean for stagg, had same thought

WZ have you posted new reads?


I think this was the post that had me wondering if there was a pack, miz soft clearing WZ?


I think this was ny supporting or answering for kras. need to go check this quote again


Barks having feels for MsP


Miz quoted this as defense of barks but then on re-read i realized its Ny shading WZ


If MPM came up woofy, this would make me want to look at stagg for not going that direction when I think MPM was in the lead, and instead added to sporty who only had one vote at the time



This was clearly pushing on FTF, but wondering how to interpret the change on kras from "same" to NAI


I don't understand why you asked this. When did Ny mention you and why would stagg think Ny was going to bus you?

@mizchiefmanaged and @mypetmoose what are your reads on WZ please?

I have limited time today unfortunately, so in-depth reads will likely not come until tomorrow or even the next day. WZ I have backed off of for now. I think it would be bad form to call out the wolves for killing AM if she was in fact one of the wolves. That is what stuck out to me upon the reread I did yesterday.

With that in mind, I felt more comfortable backing off of flushy and put miz and you on the backburner. My current priority is figuring out genny and stagg. That being said, I haven't had time and won't have time to re-evaluate again (thoroughly with quotes n things) about nyanko's flip until after lynch close at least.

P.s. would me flipping village push stagg more village to you, or is it NAI? Why?