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Anybody know which schools have 3rd and 4th year rotations that allow you to handle "code:browns" as a student? I'm really in need of good cafeterial rotations and don't really want to move across the country just to get into a decent middle school cafeteria...
 
It certainly brings back memories to see this thread revitalized once again. I remember back when posting it being lost and confused regarding my future and what I should do. I figure that now I'll fill everyone in on what I did and how it is going.

I'm currently a first year in a custodial school. I'm surrounded by a great group of people; all hard working, all striving to clean up the world in which we live. The past experiences of the people here are certainly varied; some have shadowed janitor and custodians before, some have actually been involved in cleaning to several degrees.

Surface anatomy was not as bad as everyone said it was going to be. Yes you have to be able to tell the difference between brick and polymer composites, oak vs pine etc… Histology was tough though, cross-sections of these surfaces look the same under a microscope.

I've spent most of today studying cleaning supply pharmacology. There is certainly a lot of information keep track of: Generic and Brand names, ingredients, ideal surfaces, scents, concentration, etc... I've made flash cards but I still seem to get things mixed up.

This past weekend we had the green jumpsuit ceremony. I have to admit that it was a little odd since it doesn't really feel like we've accomplished very much, but I do look good in the suit. We bought our cleaning equipment not long ago and are now in the process of learning how to perform an examination of a room and determine the best method of cleaning. For the first time yesterday I learned how to correctly soak and squeeze out a mop. It's going to take some practice, I was dripping water all over the floor.

I am disappointed however with our "Custodial Practices and Principles" class. I expected to learn the holistic approach to cleaning but instead I feel like I'm being smacked in the face with esoteric bull****. One of my professors is so enamored with himself he believes that he can dust from across the room without touching a rag. We constantly hear how we are the same as our Janitorial brethren from some, and from others we hear that the Janitors are only getting half the education that we are.

All in all I'm glad I'm here. Every day I work my hardest and just look forward to having that name sewn on my coat and being the person who is paged when there is a major mess to clean up. I just imagine myself strolling into the hallway confident with mop in hand and order oxyclean STAT.
 
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engineeredout said:
It certainly brings back memories to see this thread revitalized once again. I remember back when posting it being lost and confused regarding my future and what I should do. I figure that now I’ll fill everyone in on what I did and how it is going.

I’m currently a first year in a custodial school. I’m surrounded by a great group of people; all hard working, all striving to clean up the world in which we live. The past experiences of the people here are certainly varied; some have shadowed janitor and custodians before, some have actually been involved in cleaning to several degrees.

Surface anatomy was not as bad as everyone said it was going to be. Yes you have to be able to tell the difference between brick and polymer composites, oak vs pine etc… Histology was tough though, cross-sections of these surfaces look the same under a microscope.

I’ve spent most of today studying cleaning supply pharmacology. There is certainly a lot of information keep track of: Generic and Brand names, ingredients, ideal surfaces, scents, concentration, etc... I’ve made flash cards but I still seem to get things mixed up.

This past weekend we had the green jumpsuit ceremony. I have to admit that it was a little odd since it doesn’t really feel like we’ve accomplished very much, but I do look good in the suit. We bought our cleaning equipment not long ago and are now in the process of learning how to perform an examination of a room and determine the best method of cleaning. For the first time yesterday I learned how to correctly soak and squeeze out a mop. It’s going to take some practice, I was dripping water all over the floor.

I am disappointed however with our “Custodial Practices and Principles” class. I expected to learn the holistic approach to cleaning but instead I feel like I’m being smacked in the face with esoteric bull****. One of my professors is so enamored with himself he believes that he can dust from across the room without touching a rag. We constantly hear how we are the same as our Janitorial brethren from some, and from others we hear that the Janitors are only getting half the education that we are.

All in all I’m glad I’m here. Every day I work my hardest and just look forward to having that name sewn on my coat and being the person who is paged when there is a major mess to clean up. I just imagine myself strolling into the hallway confident with mop in hand and order oxyclean STAT.
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engineeredout said:
It certainly brings back memories to see this thread revitalized once again. I remember back when posting it being lost and confused regarding my future and what I should do. I figure that now I’ll fill everyone in on what I did and how it is going.

I’m currently a first year in a custodial school. I’m surrounded by a great group of people; all hard working, all striving to clean up the world in which we live. The past experiences of the people here are certainly varied; some have shadowed janitor and custodians before, some have actually been involved in cleaning to several degrees.

Surface anatomy was not as bad as everyone said it was going to be. Yes you have to be able to tell the difference between brick and polymer composites, oak vs pine etc… Histology was tough though, cross-sections of these surfaces look the same under a microscope.

I’ve spent most of today studying cleaning supply pharmacology. There is certainly a lot of information keep track of: Generic and Brand names, ingredients, ideal surfaces, scents, concentration, etc... I’ve made flash cards but I still seem to get things mixed up.

This past weekend we had the green jumpsuit ceremony. I have to admit that it was a little odd since it doesn’t really feel like we’ve accomplished very much, but I do look good in the suit. We bought our cleaning equipment not long ago and are now in the process of learning how to perform an examination of a room and determine the best method of cleaning. For the first time yesterday I learned how to correctly soak and squeeze out a mop. It’s going to take some practice, I was dripping water all over the floor.

I am disappointed however with our “Custodial Practices and Principles” class. I expected to learn the holistic approach to cleaning but instead I feel like I’m being smacked in the face with esoteric bull****. One of my professors is so enamored with himself he believes that he can dust from across the room without touching a rag. We constantly hear how we are the same as our Janitorial brethren from some, and from others we hear that the Janitors are only getting half the education that we are.

All in all I’m glad I’m here. Every day I work my hardest and just look forward to having that name sewn on my coat and being the person who is paged when there is a major mess to clean up. I just imagine myself strolling into the hallway confident with mop in hand and order oxyclean STAT.
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LOL!!! This will be a hard post to top in 2010.
 
this is cute. :laugh::laugh:



engineeredout said:
It certainly brings back memories to see this thread revitalized once again. I remember back when posting it being lost and confused regarding my future and what I should do. I figure that now I’ll fill everyone in on what I did and how it is going.

I’m currently a first year in a custodial school. I’m surrounded by a great group of people; all hard working, all striving to clean up the world in which we live. The past experiences of the people here are certainly varied; some have shadowed janitor and custodians before, some have actually been involved in cleaning to several degrees.

Surface anatomy was not as bad as everyone said it was going to be. Yes you have to be able to tell the difference between brick and polymer composites, oak vs pine etc… Histology was tough though, cross-sections of these surfaces look the same under a microscope.

I’ve spent most of today studying cleaning supply pharmacology. There is certainly a lot of information keep track of: Generic and Brand names, ingredients, ideal surfaces, scents, concentration, etc... I’ve made flash cards but I still seem to get things mixed up.

This past weekend we had the green jumpsuit ceremony. I have to admit that it was a little odd since it doesn’t really feel like we’ve accomplished very much, but I do look good in the suit. We bought our cleaning equipment not long ago and are now in the process of learning how to perform an examination of a room and determine the best method of cleaning. For the first time yesterday I learned how to correctly soak and squeeze out a mop. It’s going to take some practice, I was dripping water all over the floor.

I am disappointed however with our “Custodial Practices and Principles” class. I expected to learn the holistic approach to cleaning but instead I feel like I’m being smacked in the face with esoteric bull****. One of my professors is so enamored with himself he believes that he can dust from across the room without touching a rag. We constantly hear how we are the same as our Janitorial brethren from some, and from others we hear that the Janitors are only getting half the education that we are.

All in all I’m glad I’m here. Every day I work my hardest and just look forward to having that name sewn on my coat and being the person who is paged when there is a major mess to clean up. I just imagine myself strolling into the hallway confident with mop in hand and order oxyclean STAT.
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Have you all heard about that new for-profit Custodial Sciences school that is set to open next year? It is owned by the son of the guy who owns that Caribbean Custodial Sciences school in Dominica! Since the "Mopper report", for-profit schools have not existed in the US. This is disturbing, isn't it?

I hope that the people that go to the new school don't get screwed in the long run...

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rddoms said:
Have you all heard about that new for-profit Custodial Sciences school that is set to open next year? It is owned by the son of the guy who owns that Caribbean Custodial Sciences school in Dominica! Since the "Mopper report", for-profit schools have not existed in the US. This is disturbing, isn't it?

I hope that the people that go to the new school don't get screwed in the long run...

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Yeah but is it LCCE accredited? What kind of custodial specialties can they match into? i.e. do they get stuck cleaning toilets for the rest of their life or do they get into mopping and window cleaning specialties?
 
My apologies, it is a Janitorial Sciences school accredited by the AJA. The AJA has given it provisional accreditation, and they are admitting their first class this fall. Who knows where they will match? New schools tend to do alright in the match, but some PD's might be bothered by the for-profit status. Time will tell for sure.

I can't Believe that the AJA has allowed this school to receive provisional accreditation. There hasn't been a for-profit AJA/LCCE school since the "Mopper Report"! This is soiling the name of JS's across the US, and I'm sure the LCCE will have a field day with this!
 
One thing I like about Custodians is their ability to manipulate aka(elbow grease) for stickey ickey messes, while only janitors use overpowerfull sprayes that could end up damaging the surface of the object
 
You've got it backwards, the Janitorial Sciences guys (AJA) are the ones who get the extra elbow grease.
 
...(Thinks that this thread is epic, and keeps getting better. It should be stickied somewhere.)
 
Bones... What do they give you fro loan money at Rocky Vista? Are you seriously living in a trailer?
 
hahah go janitor. Janitorial work is splendid, indeed. 😎
 
Janitors bring that "little extra"!

Come on, we have to keep this going!:meanie:
 
Mohammed1989 said:
This thread just confirmed that pre-DOs/DO students have more fun than pre-MD/MD students 😀
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Agreed. This thread is by far The Most Epic Ever on SDN. Pre-allo occasionally spices things up...but I know I can always come here for good lolz!
 
Oh, and I heard that Janitorial Sciences students are hotter than Custodial Sciences students, so blah!


(C'mon folks, let's keep this sucker going!):meanie:
 
FloatOn said:
Agreed. This thread is by far The Most Epic Ever on SDN. Pre-allo occasionally spices things up...but I know I can always come here for good lolz!
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Agreed. One of the best parodies i've read since Panda Bear MD wrote his epic parody on personal statements. :laugh: :meanie:

So I'm guessing that if AJA is American janitorial services then ACA is the custodial version. :laugh:
 
AJA=AOA (DO), LCCE=LCME (MD). AJA brings that little extra "elbow grease", etc.
 
True, but we wouldn't want to confuse the AJA students, no would we? (I had to, too easy!:meanie:)

"KCJM" 2012
 
Anyone looking into the dual Janitor/Plumber degrees? I know that they are extremely competitive, but I want to not only to be able to clean, but actually KNOW where things go after I flush things. While my CCAS scores are not so good, I've shadowed many plumbers and janitors, and have many ECs showing my passion for cleanliness. What are my chances? :scared:
 
aubreytex said:
Anyone looking into the dual Janitor/Plumber degrees? I know that they are extremely competitive, but I want to not only to be able to clean, but actually KNOW where things go after I flush things. While my CCAS scores are not so good, I've shadowed many plumbers and janitors, and have many ECs showing my passion for cleanliness. What are my chances? :scared:
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😛

That depends on what school you want to go to. 😉
 
aubreytex said:
Anyone looking into the dual Janitor/Plumber degrees? I know that they are extremely competitive, but I want to not only to be able to clean, but actually KNOW where things go after I flush things. While my CCAS scores are not so good, I've shadowed many plumbers and janitors, and have many ECs showing my passion for cleanliness. What are my chances? :scared:
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Have you been preparing for interviews? It's never too early to start. You should probably read through "Chasing Dirt: The American Pursuit of Cleanliness" by Suellen Hoy, ISBN 0195111281. You can get it here: http://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Dirt-...=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265077767&sr=1-4 or you can see if your library has it. My library copy is all ragged from all the pre-Jans who've been through it.
 
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Greater than..

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Have you heard of the new DST programs they are creating? They want to take a "modified" USSLE Step 3, and have the practice rights of DJ/CD's. RIDICULOUS!

And have you guys ever seen Scrubs? Who was the most important person on the show? Dr. Jan Itor, aka the Janitor! Even the media knows who the big shots are!
 
rddoms said:
And have you guys ever seen Scrubs? Who was the most important person on the show? Dr. Jan Itor, aka the Janitor! QUOTE]

fo sho, the Janitor makes the show, I love his shenanigans
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Haha, I found this on the top of the page. WE HAVE SPONSORS!!🙂
This is the official Pre-Janitor and Pre-Custodial thread

^^^^^^^^^This I'm so adding to my needed list. Its like a mini-Zamboni, sweet
 
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Lol. This thread has been endlessly entertaining. :laugh: There are some very funny and creative people on here.
 
Thanks for telling it like it is. We do hard work, and can't wait to go home for a beer. The supply room stash definitely increases productivity, and is as necessary as more Windex/Lemon Pledge!

This thread is awesome, and helps me avoid studying I don't want to do!
 
rddoms said:
Thanks for telling it like it is. We do hard work, and can't wait to go home for a beer. The supply room stash definitely increases productivity, and is as necessary as more Windex/Lemon Pledge!

This thread is awesome, and helps me avoid studying I don't want to do!
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What are you talking about, this help's a ton with homework.
for example:
Heineken = Ethyl Alcohol
👍 = C-C-OH

edit: I just noticed you are not a pre-jan, but already attending KCJM(good for you!)
look up cirrhosis => caused by hanging out in the supply room TOO OFTEN
 
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Cirrhosis happens, it is a part of life for every Janitor. You know what's better than drinking beers in the supply closet? Drinking beers in the supply closet with the hot radiology tech! 😎
 
rddoms said:
Drinking beers in the supply closet with the hot radiology tech! 😎
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YES! I totaly agree with you👍. People say "the R.N's are smoking", not really.
I would rank :
#1) Rad Techs
#2) E.R. Techs/C.N.A.'s

let the flamewars begin (allied health reps are going to attack me:scared:)
 
RySerr21 said:
The gpa and mcat averages are a little lower (altho higher than caribbean) so you really shouldnt have trouble getting in.
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RySerr, if you're still around, you owe me a new keyboard, because I just spit coffee all over it. :laugh:
 
BenU, what about the perfusionists? I worked at a hospital with a rockin' perfusionist, so that ranks somewhere in the list. Or maybe my n=1 is too small of a sample to effectively put perfusionists in the ranking.
 
I concur, you need a n>30 for it to be statistically proven.
 
well, both pick up the droppings and scraps of MDs
 
thamsenman said:
well, both pick up the droppings and scraps of MDs
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What are you referring to here?

BenU, do you think the allied health hotties like the Janitors or Custodians more? I mean the Janitors have a leg up with the extra "elbow grease", right?

This thread needs to survive, so help it out people!
 
rddoms said:
What are you referring to here?

BenU, do you think the allied health hotties like the Janitors or Custodians more? I mean the Janitors have a leg up with the extra "elbow grease", right?

This thread needs to survive, so help it out people!
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Hm. I'm not sure I quite understand what you mean by "elbow grease." Please explain this concept to me in graphic detail.
 
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