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MicrobeMommy said:
If you mean you are applying to KCU, they will hold your application no matter when you apply until after first semester. Most other med schools will put your application on hold until after first semester grades as well as long as you make them aware grades are coming. If not, you run the risk of an outright rejection if your grades aren’t stellar and you need those first semester grades.
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Did you contact the schools individually informing them about the first semester grades?
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CoolLuWhip said:
So y’all are saying I should just apply now even though I’m taking my mcat probably during winter break or so and just let them know?
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You can apply now and just put that you are retaking the MCAT and waiting for semester grades. They’ll just hold it most of the time and it’ll be one less thing to do in the fall semester.
 
Did anyone receive an email from KCU admissions asking them to fill out a survey to see if they're still interested in the MBS program?

Waitlisted applicant here!
 
The Element said:
I wonder if that's normal. I was told they would review waitlisted applicants some time in May/June but they never mentioned we would get a survey e-mailed to us.
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It is normal. They do something similar for the medical school.
 
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Hi, also a waitlisted student. Does anyone know when they send out their last decisions by? Also if anyone knows, do those not accepted off the waitlist receive rejection emails?
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Have the same question. Been waitlisted a while, just curious how when I should expect to hear back either way acceptance or not. How long do they usually keep admissions rolling?
 
Has anyone ever been accepted into the COM off the WL when they're also about to start their first year with the COB? I am on the WL here and I am wondering if I shot myself in the foot by accepting the COB offer for this fall? I am excited about this program and can't wait to potentially start in a few weeks, but the conspiracy theorist within me is cooking up some ideas. So I am seeing if anyone has seen people pulled from the WL and give up there spot in the COB? Thanks Team.
 
Just got the call this morning, I GOT ACCEPTED OFF THE WAITLIST!!

So excited, with all the rejections I've gotten so far this is a great change of pace! See you in the fall!
 
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Just got accepted this week. Anyone know where I should look for housing or is anyone offering to rent a room. Look forward to meeting everyone in the fall!
 
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Just got accepted this week. Anyone know where I should look for housing or is anyone offering to rent a room. Look forward to meeting everyone in the fall!
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Depends on your budget and how close you want to be near the school.

If you look further away (north of the river and midtown/Westport) you'll find some decent places. There's also river market and union hill which are closer. CT if you want to be right next to the school. If you want a roommate check out FB group or something I guess.
 
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Hey I am writing to see if anyone who completed the MS last year was accepted into the DO. If so, what were your stats? I got into the MS for 2020-2021, but I have a 497 so I am wondering if I would need to retake the MCAT as well. Also, what is the tuition like for the MS? Thanks.
 
Promotheon said:
Hey I am writing to see if anyone who completed the MS last year was accepted into the DO. If so, what were your stats? I got into the MS for 2020-2021, but I have a 497 so I am wondering if I would need to retake the MCAT as well. Also, what is the tuition like for the MS? Thanks.
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Hi, I'm currently in the MS program here. We won't know until around March if we are accepted into the medical school. As far as retaking your MCAT, a 501 and a 3.6 in the program will get you a guaranteed interview, so I would probably consider retaking it. The school will consider January MCAT scores for students who want to take it after the first semester. They also provide a free Kaplan course. I have heard from the previous year's students that some students below a 501 ended up getting accepted, but as far as I know, these are just a few isolated cases. Tuition is ~33K. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me
 
juggernautalpha said:
Hi, I'm currently in the MS program here. We won't know until around March if we are accepted into the medical school. As far as retaking your MCAT, a 501 and a 3.6 in the program will get you a guaranteed interview, so I would probably consider retaking it. The school will consider January MCAT scores for students who want to take it after the first semester. They also provide a free Kaplan course. I have heard from the previous year's students that some students below a 501 ended up getting accepted, but as far as I know, these are just a few isolated cases. Tuition is ~33K. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me
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Hi,

I applied to KCUCOM and received an offer for COB instead and saw your post that you are in this program. I was wondering if you would be able to tell me a little about your experience and if this program helps with securing a spot in the osteopathic medical school.

Thank
 
SMDOctor said:
Hi,

I applied to KCUCOM and received an offer for COB instead and saw your post that you are in this program. I was wondering if you would be able to tell me a little about your experience and if this program helps with securing a spot in the osteopathic medical school.

Thank
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Personally, I like the program a lot. I've heard it's one of the more respected post-bac programs and the faculty really does care about our success. I'm told that's not the case at some other post-bac. As far as securing a spot at KCUCOM, nothing is guaranteed and they will emphasize this. A 501 and 3.6 in the first semester gets you a guaranteed interview during the second semester and they hold a number of seats for students in COB. I do wish they were a little more transparent about exactly how many seats they hold for us so we knew exactly what our chances were, but from talking to past years class it seems like they accept ~40-50 out of the class, including both KC and Joplin campuses. That being said, a lot of people go on to medical school at other places too. Overall, I'm very happy with the program and I think I made the right choice coming
 
juggernautalpha said:
Personally, I like the program a lot. I've heard it's one of the more respected post-bac programs and the faculty really does care about our success. I'm told that's not the case at some other post-bac. As far as securing a spot at KCUCOM, nothing is guaranteed and they will emphasize this. A 501 and 3.6 in the first semester gets you a guaranteed interview during the second semester and they hold a number of seats for students in COB. I do wish they were a little more transparent about exactly how many seats they hold for us so we knew exactly what our chances were, but from talking to past years class it seems like they accept ~40-50 out of the class, including both KC and Joplin campuses. That being said, a lot of people go on to medical school at other places too. Overall, I'm very happy with the program and I think I made the right choice coming
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If you don't mind me asking did you secure an interview for this year. Also has this program helped you secure any other DO school interviews?

Thanks,
 
SMDOctor said:
If you don't mind me asking did you secure an interview for this year. Also has this program helped you secure any other DO school interviews?

Thanks,
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I did get an II at KCU and I have had a few other interviews as well. If you’re plan is to go to medical school after this program without taking a gap year, I think it really depends on the stats you’re coming into the program with. In my case, I had a lower sGPA coming in and once I completed the first semester, it brought me up into a more competitive range, which was when I started getting interviews. That being said, I know others who did well in the first semester but haven’t heard anything from any school besides KCU.

No matter what your undergrad GPA is though, a 3.6 in first semester and 501 gets a guaranteed interview at KCU (unless they change this policy, which I think is unlikely).

Hope all this is helpful, I had the same questions when I was deciding on this program.
 
juggernautalpha said:
I did get an II at KCU and I have had a few other interviews as well. If you’re plan is to go to medical school after this program without taking a gap year, I think it really depends on the stats you’re coming into the program with. In my case, I had a lower sGPA coming in and once I completed the first semester, it brought me up into a more competitive range, which was when I started getting interviews. That being said, I know others who did well in the first semester but haven’t heard anything from any school besides KCU.

No matter what your undergrad GPA is though, a 3.6 in first semester and 501 gets a guaranteed interview at KCU (unless they change this policy, which I think is unlikely).

Hope all this is helpful, I had the same questions when I was deciding on this program.
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Do you mind sharing your stats pre this program? Also, what is a 3.6 GPA in terms of percentage?
 
I'm going to be real with you all about this program as a current student, in my opinion and I would challenge any current or former COB students to dispute any of what I'm about to say, this program is a joke. It's a huge money grab for the university (33k x 130 ppl = $4.29 million) with minimal effort on their part. They do all the dog and pony show stuff, (they will beat it into your head that this program is so awesome, but compared to what?) but the actual substance is just not there. If you think you're going to learn some new things and challenge yourself, you're wrong. If you have a sub 500 MCAT and terrible grades...this might be for you. But, if you are a decently competitive applicant, avoid at all costs, or just study and retake the MCAT.
The material is old and refurbished from undergrad. I have not seen a single piece of material that I had not already seen in undergrad. The only thing that makes this program sorta hard (the class avg on our exams is around 85%, which is the goal for the professors making the exam and we are not talking about the best and brightest from around the country) is how the professors ask their questions. The material is easy, mostly because you've seen it before, not how it is being presented, but their questions are so ridiculous it makes you want to cry. The professors try to out smart themselves and make terrible questions that literally come from outer space. Also, the molecular (fall)/biochem (spring) professor, arguable the two most important classes in this program, is taught by the worst professor you could ever imagine. This is not hyperbole, they are such a terrible lecturer and the material they expect you to know far exceeds the material being presented. We have weekend quizzes that are open book and you still won't be able to find the answers to their terrible questions using the entire internet and their lecture slides, because the questions make no sense.
Immunology is taught by the schools favorite professor who has such a thick Russian accent, you can't understand anything he says.
So, If I was someone looking into this program, I would save my money and time (because you won't actually learn anything, the anatomy/histology/embryology professor (same guy), literally gives you the answers to all the questions on his exam) and do a post-bac at my state school. PM if you have any questions that you want answered from someone who does not drink the Kool-Aid and regularly looks behind the curtain to see its usually just a fat old guy, not magic.
 
Hi all!

I just got accepted to the program last week. I applied to several medical schools and got rejections from most of them, so I will most likely be attending the KCUMB COB program. I'm really excited, as this program seems to be a good source of preparation for medical school. I've lived in the Kansas City area for the past 18 years, so if anyone has questions about the area, please reply or let me know!

I am currently living on the Plaza with a roommate and rent is about $1800 per month (yeah, it's super steep!!), but I'm looking to move closer to the KCUMB campus this summer with a roommate. If anyone else is looking for a roommate, please please PLEASE let me know! I'd love to live with a peer, so we can study together and go through the whole process as a team.
 
WHO SHOULD APPLY:


First of all if you have >3.3GPA, DO NOT do this program. If your MCAT is the issue spend time fixing that rather than spending 32K and 9 months trying to get a 'guaranteed interview'. If you got waitlisted from KCU, then just do another cycle. There were plenty of people who got interviews from other programs during the first semester which means this program did not mean much to the school they were applying to since no grades or LORs were given. I will stress again that you are better off re-taking the MCAT. Check out r/MCAT or other threads here to see how to study etc. Honestly even buying a KAPLAN or TPR course would be advisable at this point. (there were plenty of people in this program who had decent GPAs but just needed to retake the MCAT) If you have a less competitive GPA BUT it’s fixable then just do a DIY-postbacc at a state school for cheaper and beef up other parts of your app.

If you have a horrendous GPA (no matter what MCAT) and have had no traction in an application cycle, then maybe consider this program. Basically, if you are not competitive and cannot become competitive (even with a solid MCAT) consider this program.

Also, if you have not taken the MCAT or plan on taking it, do so BEFORE the program. You probably won't have time to successfully study during the program plus if you have a MCAT score you can apply early and have a better cycle / chances of getting IIs from other schools.



WHAT IS THE PROGRAM LIKE:

You take 5 classes each semester

Semester 1 | Semester 2
- Phys I | - Phys II
- Anatomy I | - Anatomy II
- Histology / Genetics | - Bioinformatics / Embryo
- Epidemiology | - Immunology
- Molec Cell Bio | - Biochemistry


The classes themselves are not difficult. In fact, they're kind of easy. Most of the material covered you will have seen before in undergrad with some material being new. The professors are.... meh. Some people seem to like the professors, others do not. I personally have had issues with their slides and questions on their exams, but I have never really used the teacher as my primary source of learning (I usually come to them with questions and clarifications). What makes the courses difficult is in part the questions (worded poorly IMO) and the professors' explanations about topics (i.e. not well thought out explanations), and having to take 5 exams back-to-back.

ADMIN / STAFF:

I already talked about the professors a bit in terms of their classes, but we are actually all assigned one of the professors as 'advisors' at the beginning of the year Outside of the classroom they're all decent people and most are nice and supportive. I haven't used my advisor all that much but he did stress that his door is always open and to come talk to him about stuff. They seem to be mostly in the dark regarding admissions and what not, so they try to help and give advice as best they can, but they are definitely not experts on med school admissions so take what they say with a grain of salt. There are opportunities to research with them (as well as some COM faculty) which is pretty cool. Honestly, my only qualms with them are regarding their questions and slides.

We also get a learning specialist who you can meet with about how to study for classes / MCAT or time management and even for mock interviews and PS review. She is quite blunt and (in my experience) does not really bullsh** you about stuff. She will probably be the person who helps you the most and is more supportive than my advisors in undergrad.

The rest of the admin staff I didn't really interact with. However, I will say that at the beginning of the year they did stress how great of an opportunity we have and how great the program is etc. Please don't buy into that. At least not fully. This is an opportunity to get an II and possibly an acceptance but it is not a guarantee. Compared to other DO schools with similar programs KCU is pretty good. Compared to other post-baccs and SMPs they are not even in the top 10. Them saying stuff like this has made me cautious about trusting them about anything. Other students’ experiences and talking to some COM students has only confirmed my suspicions. Treat them like how most people treat HR departments. They're there to protect the company not you.

HOW THE INTERVIEW / ADMISSION WORKS:

If you get through all of this and maintain a 3.6 and >501 then you are guaranteed an interview. I would like to point out that people who I felt were more than qualified and smarter than others did not get the 3.6 / II, so if you are coming in to this program thinking this will be a sure thing then re-consider. They apparently reserve at least 40ish seats for the COB students. Our class had about 130 kids, probably 70-80 of which received interviews (this is an educated guess, but still conjecture). It's unlikely they are going to use the interview as the deciding factor of admission so it still reverts back to your GPA (in the program mostly but also your undergrad) and your MCAT. We had many people take the MCAT over the winter / in January, so many students that got IIs are hoping that their MCAT is good enough. You all get interviewed together at Joplin, so we have about 80 kids vying for 40 spots (split between both campuses). There will likely be waitlist movement so more than the 40 will get in, BUT THAT IS NOT A GUARANTEE. A lot of this process is a roll of the dice. Also, your acceptance is conditional so you have to finish the program and maintain certain standards in order for your acceptance to be honored. At this point we have no idea who will get in and how many, but there will be people who will feel some way about not getting in. This program (IMO) isn't designed as a pipeline for good students who need a chance / border line applicants unfortunately. I wish it was.



FINAL THOUGHTS:


I am not writing this with any intention of ****ting on the school or because I am butthurt about not getting an II (I in fact got one). I just felt that my experience in the program did not mirror what people have said in this thread or in past ones. I think it’s important to hear about the good and bad experiences so you guys deciding on this program can make a more informed decision because it is a HUGE financial and time investment for all of you. You, ultimately, have to weigh the risks and benefits and decide for yourself.


I feel like the program has somewhat prepared me for medical school, but not in content. I have learned how to better study and manage my time and got a peak behind the curtains of a medical school which is kinda cool. I have met a lot of awesome people in the program, and itt was cool to be in KC when the chiefs won the super bowl (esp. being from a city with no football team lol).


Plenty of people have gotten into other medical schools after completing (or during) this program. I’m sure this program has had some impact on people’s application success, but I can’t really speak to how much. There are also people who have loved their time here and are walking away having learned a lot in the process.


Take everything you have heard here (and elsewhere) with a grain of salt. Hope this helped. Any questions just pm me.
 
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WHO SHOULD APPLY:


First of all if you have >3.3GPA, DO NOT do this program. If your MCAT is the issue spend time fixing that rather than spending 32K and 9 months trying to get a 'guaranteed interview'. If you got waitlisted from KCU, then just do another cycle. There were plenty of people who got interviews from other programs during the first semester which means this program did not mean much to the school they were applying to since no grades or LORs were given. I will stress again that you are better off re-taking the MCAT. Check out r/MCAT or other threads here to see how to study etc. Honestly even buying a KAPLAN or TPR course would be advisable at this point. (there were plenty of people in this program who had decent GPAs but just needed to retake the MCAT) If you have a less competitive GPA BUT it’s fixable then just do a DIY-postbacc at a state school for cheaper and beef up other parts of your app.

If you have a horrendous GPA (no matter what MCAT) and have had no traction in an application cycle, then maybe consider this program. Basically, if you are not competitive and cannot become competitive (even with a solid MCAT) consider this program.

Also, if you have not taken the MCAT or plan on taking it, do so BEFORE the program. You probably won't have time to successfully study during the program plus if you have a MCAT score you can apply early and have a better cycle / chances of getting IIs from other schools.



WHAT IS THE PROGRAM LIKE:

You take 5 classes each semester

Semester 1 | Semester 2
- Phys I | - Phys II
- Anatomy I | - Anatomy II
- Histology / Genetics | - Bioinformatics / Embryo
- Epidemiology | - Immunology
- Molec Cell Bio | - Biochemistry


The classes themselves are not difficult. In fact, they're kind of easy. Most of the material covered you will have seen before in undergrad with some material being new. The professors are.... meh. Some people seem to like the professors, others do not. I personally have had issues with their slides and questions on their exams, but I have never really used the teacher as my primary source of learning (I usually come to them with questions and clarifications). What makes the courses difficult is in part the questions (worded poorly IMO) and the professors' explanations about topics (i.e. not well thought out explanations), and having to take 5 exams back-to-back.

ADMIN / STAFF:

I already talked about the professors a bit in terms of their classes, but we are actually all assigned one of the professors as 'advisors' at the beginning of the year Outside of the classroom they're all decent people and most are nice and supportive. I haven't used my advisor all that much but he did stress that his door is always open and to come talk to him about stuff. They seem to be mostly in the dark regarding admissions and what not, so they try to help and give advice as best they can, but they are definitely not experts on med school admissions so take what they say with a grain of salt. There are opportunities to research with them (as well as some COM faculty) which is pretty cool. Honestly, my only qualms with them are regarding their questions and slides.

We also get a learning specialist who you can meet with about how to study for classes / MCAT or time management and even for mock interviews and PS review. She is quite blunt and (in my experience) does not really bullsh** you about stuff. She will probably be the person who helps you the most and is more supportive than my advisors in undergrad.

The rest of the admin staff I didn't really interact with. However, I will say that at the beginning of the year they did stress how great of an opportunity we have and how great the program is etc. Please don't buy into that. At least not fully. This is an opportunity to get an II and possibly an acceptance but it is not a guarantee. Compared to other DO schools with similar programs KCU is pretty good. Compared to other post-baccs and SMPs they are not even in the top 10. Them saying stuff like this has made me cautious about trusting them about anything. Other students’ experiences and talking to some COM students has only confirmed my suspicions. Treat them like how most people treat HR departments. They're there to protect the company not you.

HOW THE INTERVIEW / ADMISSION WORKS:

If you get through all of this and maintain a 3.6 and >501 then you are guaranteed an interview. I would like to point out that people who I felt were more than qualified and smarter than others did not get the 3.6 / II, so if you are coming in to this program thinking this will be a sure thing then re-consider. They apparently reserve at least 40ish seats for the COB students. Our class had about 130 kids, probably 70-80 of which received interviews (this is an educated guess, but still conjecture). It's unlikely they are going to use the interview as the deciding factor of admission so it still reverts back to your GPA (in the program mostly but also your undergrad) and your MCAT. We had many people take the MCAT over the winter / in January, so many students that got IIs are hoping that their MCAT is good enough. You all get interviewed together at Joplin, so we have about 80 kids vying for 40 spots (split between both campuses). There will likely be waitlist movement so more than the 40 will get in, BUT THAT IS NOT A GUARANTEE. A lot of this process is a roll of the dice. Also, your acceptance is conditional so you have to finish the program and maintain certain standards in order for your acceptance to be honored. At this point we have no idea who will get in and how many, but there will be people who will feel some way about not getting in. This program (IMO) isn't designed as a pipeline for good students who need a chance / border line applicants unfortunately. I wish it was.



FINAL THOUGHTS:


I am not writing this with any intention of ****ting on the school or because I am butthurt about not getting an II (I in fact got one). I just felt that my experience in the program did not mirror what people have said in this thread or in past ones. I think it’s important to hear about the good and bad experiences so you guys deciding on this program can make a more informed decision because it is a HUGE financial and time investment for all of you. You, ultimately, have to weigh the risks and benefits and decide for yourself.


I feel like the program has somewhat prepared me for medical school, but not in content. I have learned how to better study and manage my time and got a peak behind the curtains of a medical school which is kinda cool. I have met a lot of awesome people in the program, and itt was cool to be in KC when the chiefs won the super bowl.


Plenty of people have gotten into other medical schools after completing (or during) this program. I’m sure this program has had some impact on people’s application success, but I can’t really speak to how much. There are also people who have loved their time here and are walking away having learned a lot in the process.


Take everything you have heard here (and elsewhere) with a grain of salt. Hope this helped. Any questions just pm me.
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This is gospel.
 
doofuscake said:
WHO SHOULD APPLY:


First of all if you have >3.3GPA, DO NOT do this program. If your MCAT is the issue spend time fixing that rather than spending 32K and 9 months trying to get a 'guaranteed interview'. If you got waitlisted from KCU, then just do another cycle. There were plenty of people who got interviews from other programs during the first semester which means this program did not mean much to the school they were applying to since no grades or LORs were given. I will stress again that you are better off re-taking the MCAT. Check out r/MCAT or other threads here to see how to study etc. Honestly even buying a KAPLAN or TPR course would be advisable at this point. (there were plenty of people in this program who had decent GPAs but just needed to retake the MCAT) If you have a less competitive GPA BUT it’s fixable then just do a DIY-postbacc at a state school for cheaper and beef up other parts of your app.

If you have a horrendous GPA (no matter what MCAT) and have had no traction in an application cycle, then maybe consider this program. Basically, if you are not competitive and cannot become competitive (even with a solid MCAT) consider this program.

Also, if you have not taken the MCAT or plan on taking it, do so BEFORE the program. You probably won't have time to successfully study during the program plus if you have a MCAT score you can apply early and have a better cycle / chances of getting IIs from other schools.



WHAT IS THE PROGRAM LIKE:

You take 5 classes each semester

Semester 1 | Semester 2
- Phys I | - Phys II
- Anatomy I | - Anatomy II
- Histology / Genetics | - Bioinformatics / Embryo
- Epidemiology | - Immunology
- Molec Cell Bio | - Biochemistry


The classes themselves are not difficult. In fact, they're kind of easy. Most of the material covered you will have seen before in undergrad with some material being new. The professors are.... meh. Some people seem to like the professors, others do not. I personally have had issues with their slides and questions on their exams, but I have never really used the teacher as my primary source of learning (I usually come to them with questions and clarifications). What makes the courses difficult is in part the questions (worded poorly IMO) and the professors' explanations about topics (i.e. not well thought out explanations), and having to take 5 exams back-to-back.

ADMIN / STAFF:

I already talked about the professors a bit in terms of their classes, but we are actually all assigned one of the professors as 'advisors' at the beginning of the year Outside of the classroom they're all decent people and most are nice and supportive. I haven't used my advisor all that much but he did stress that his door is always open and to come talk to him about stuff. They seem to be mostly in the dark regarding admissions and what not, so they try to help and give advice as best they can, but they are definitely not experts on med school admissions so take what they say with a grain of salt. There are opportunities to research with them (as well as some COM faculty) which is pretty cool. Honestly, my only qualms with them are regarding their questions and slides.

We also get a learning specialist who you can meet with about how to study for classes / MCAT or time management and even for mock interviews and PS review. She is quite blunt and (in my experience) does not really bullsh** you about stuff. She will probably be the person who helps you the most and is more supportive than my advisors in undergrad.

The rest of the admin staff I didn't really interact with. However, I will say that at the beginning of the year they did stress how great of an opportunity we have and how great the program is etc. Please don't buy into that. At least not fully. This is an opportunity to get an II and possibly an acceptance but it is not a guarantee. Compared to other DO schools with similar programs KCU is pretty good. Compared to other post-baccs and SMPs they are not even in the top 10. Them saying stuff like this has made me cautious about trusting them about anything. Other students’ experiences and talking to some COM students has only confirmed my suspicions. Treat them like how most people treat HR departments. They're there to protect the company not you.

HOW THE INTERVIEW / ADMISSION WORKS:

If you get through all of this and maintain a 3.6 and >501 then you are guaranteed an interview. I would like to point out that people who I felt were more than qualified and smarter than others did not get the 3.6 / II, so if you are coming in to this program thinking this will be a sure thing then re-consider. They apparently reserve at least 40ish seats for the COB students. Our class had about 130 kids, probably 70-80 of which received interviews (this is an educated guess, but still conjecture). It's unlikely they are going to use the interview as the deciding factor of admission so it still reverts back to your GPA (in the program mostly but also your undergrad) and your MCAT. We had many people take the MCAT over the winter / in January, so many students that got IIs are hoping that their MCAT is good enough. You all get interviewed together at Joplin, so we have about 80 kids vying for 40 spots (split between both campuses). There will likely be waitlist movement so more than the 40 will get in, BUT THAT IS NOT A GUARANTEE. A lot of this process is a roll of the dice. Also, your acceptance is conditional so you have to finish the program and maintain certain standards in order for your acceptance to be honored. At this point we have no idea who will get in and how many, but there will be people who will feel some way about not getting in. This program (IMO) isn't designed as a pipeline for good students who need a chance / border line applicants unfortunately. I wish it was.



FINAL THOUGHTS:


I am not writing this with any intention of ****ting on the school or because I am butthurt about not getting an II (I in fact got one). I just felt that my experience in the program did not mirror what people have said in this thread or in past ones. I think it’s important to hear about the good and bad experiences so you guys deciding on this program can make a more informed decision because it is a HUGE financial and time investment for all of you. You, ultimately, have to weigh the risks and benefits and decide for yourself.


I feel like the program has somewhat prepared me for medical school, but not in content. I have learned how to better study and manage my time and got a peak behind the curtains of a medical school which is kinda cool. I have met a lot of awesome people in the program, and itt was cool to be in KC when the chiefs won the super bowl.


Plenty of people have gotten into other medical schools after completing (or during) this program. I’m sure this program has had some impact on people’s application success, but I can’t really speak to how much. There are also people who have loved their time here and are walking away having learned a lot in the process.


Take everything you have heard here (and elsewhere) with a grain of salt. Hope this helped. Any questions just pm me.
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Sources on only reserving 40 seats and hoping that waitlisted students will get in? Or is that just your guess? It's kind of absurd to only reserve 40 seats in a class of 130, especially with 70 interviews. That means 30 will get waitlisted. If that's the case then chances to get accepted to KCU aren;t great and it would be a waste of money to do COB in the first place.
 
The dean and other higher ups during our constant group talks have said those numbers consistently. The chances aren't great for COB students, especially if you only want to be in KC not Joplin...and they want to increase the class size in the future. It's a money grab, you probably have better odds as a applicant in the general population. Doofuscake laid it out perfectly, if your GPA is unrepairable, it's a good option. If one year of a post-bac or retake of the MCAT would turn it around for you, do that instead. For the cost and quality of education we receive, it's poor at best.
 
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The dean and other higher ups during our constant group talks have said those numbers consistently. The chances aren't great for COB students, especially if you only want to be in KC not Joplin...and they want to increase the class size in the future. It's a money grab, you probably have better odds as a applicant in the general population. Doofuscake laid it out perfectly, if you're GPA is unrepairable, it's a good option. If one year of a post-bac or retake of the MCAT would turn it around for you, do that instead. For the cost and quality of education we receive, it's poor at best.
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Dr. White? When did he say that? It's a serious question. I don't think they would tell us the numbers. I'm a current COB and had my interview last week. I just don't want false information on sdn because I've never heard the dean tell us that.
 
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In KCU-COB - got waitlisted. What is the chance of coming off of waitlist?
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I would say it depends on a lot of factors. No one as far as I know was rejected outright so people were either waitlisted or accepted. At this point, it is based on pure luck and depends on a few factors that are out of your hands. Ultimately the number of waitlist spots is dependent on how many people reject their seats in next year's class. After that, other factors of importance are your ranking on the waitlist and whether you prefer Joplin, KC, or either. It is impossible to know how they rank the waitlist. But from what I understand around 20-30 students were probably accepted to both campuses and at the beginning of the year they gave us a range of 40-60 students getting accepted. I would assume that many people probably have MCAT scores in the +/-2 range of 500 and with 3.6/3.8 GPAs in the program, so if you're below that I would think that you have lower chances. In any case, all of these factors are beyond your control. I would focus on doing the best you can this semester as unfortunately, in this moment, this is the only thing that you can control. Remember that even if you do not make it off the wait-list it does not make you a failure and if you did well in the program you will for sure reap the benefits in the next application cycle. Best of luck.
 
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I would say it depends on a lot of factors. No one as far as I know was rejected outright so people were either waitlisted or accepted. At this point, it is based on pure luck and depends on a few factors that are out of your hands. Ultimately the number of waitlist spots is dependent on how many people reject their seats in next year's class. After that, other factors of importance are your ranking on the waitlist and whether you prefer Joplin, KC, or either. It is impossible to know how they rank the waitlist. But from what I understand around 20-30 students were probably accepted to both campuses and at the beginning of the year they gave us a range of 40-60 students getting accepted. I would assume that many people probably have MCAT scores in the +/-2 range of 500 and with 3.6/3.8 GPAs in the program, so if you're below that I would think that you have lower chances. In any case, all of these factors are beyond your control. I would focus on doing the best you can this semester as unfortunately, in this moment, this is the only thing that you can control. Remember that even if you do not make it off the wait-list it does not make you a failure and if you did well in the program you will for sure reap the benefits in the next application cycle. Best of luck.
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Thank you! Class average gpa seemed to be a 3.4 which I’m above however mcat is lower. Do they weight these equally?
 
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Thank you! Class average gpa seemed to be a 3.4 which I’m above however mcat is lower. Do they weight these equally?
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According to the presentations at the beginning of the program, GPA in the program is the most important thing. I think second was MCAT.
 
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Hey everyone. For anyone looking at KCU COB for this upcoming year, please go here.
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KCUMB COB 2020-21 (M.S.)

Hey everyone! I saw that there wasn't a thread for this cycle, so I thought I'd start this for any new students for 2020-21. Hope this helps.
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Hey everyone, I am a current DO student living in century towers which is right across the street from the school. If anyone is looking to move in there, I have a 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment that is available. It’s on the 10th floor and faces downtown, so it’s a nice view. PM if interested. Thanks!
 
Could someone confirm if we need to submit official DAT score for review purposes or is it okay with unofficial and official is needed if accepted? Thank you!
 
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