Ladies and Gentlemen... a Noob WW Game Thread!

[killerleaf]

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is there such an ability to redirect kills??

 

[killerleaf]

I would venture to say that most people have been rather quiet today. maybe a little too much last night??

 

[Doctor-S]

At this time, I don't have sufficient evidence (inferential or circumstantial) to lynch anyone.

I was paralyzed last night by a malevolent assailant. Who saw anything - an individual, something happening or lurking - outside of my little room last night?

 

[mmmdreamerz]

Some thoughts as I get caught up...

We were suspicious of hyge as being a juggler yesterday and then a juggler ends up as part of the story line today...possibly as the one that tried to off Dr. S?

Dr. S's new story seems convincing but so many of the things she's said this far have made me sway back and forth about what I think about her. Wolf or villager? I honestly cannot say at this point...

Did hyge really not cast a lunch vote yesterday? If so that makes me pretty suspicious...

 

[hygebeorht]

But at least for now, I agree with the redirection theory (someone else was targeted and Coopah got hit instead)...

A villager with special abilities tried to target someone they thought was a wolf, and the juggler (also wolf) redirected the kill, resulting in Coopah's death.

If so, the juggler is almost certainly a wolf, and Dr. S might be. Yesterday we suspected that hyge was a juggler, so she's my main concern right now. She also didn't vote yesterday- laying low? I'm not ready to lynch, but I'm interested to see what others think.

You were wrong yesterday when you voted to lynch LIS, and you're wrong today too. This theory is incoherent.

So you agree with the redirect theory. You think I'm a juggler wolf who redirected a villager special kill to try to kill Dr. S.

Here are the reasons you are wrong:

A) I suggested the redirect theory to the thread in the first place. Why would I do something so stupid as to bring up an ability (one that no one had remembered existed!) if I had been using it to sneakily kill villagers. Come on.

B) I did vote yesterday, read the thread.

C) I'm not talking about my role anymore since you guys are so ready to lynch anyone who reveals the slightest hint about themselves.

Do your homework before you start throwing accusations, TrashPanda. A lot of people yesterday voted for people who are 100% innocent, and you were one of them. You need to be smarter - you're not off my list of possible wolves yet.

 

[cdo96]

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This thread is boring. Here's a cdoconn red panda in a villagers sweater encouraging the success of the villagers.

Also Lynch moar.
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[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

I'm not sure I can handle WW having a "DocE and DocS". The latter needs to get a new name. Otherwise we're just going to have to lynch one at the beginning of every game just to prevent confusion.

😵😵😵😵

We all handled the PBC BSC BBC trio so I'm sure Dr S and DocE is survivable.

PS @BrownSwissCows where are you!?

😛😛😛😛

 

[hurtem&healem]

A lot of people yesterday voted for people who are 100% innocent, .

That's just, like, your opinion, man.

 

[hygebeorht]

That's just, like, your opinion, man.

You voted for cdoconn too, A+ choice there.

 

[TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo]

First person to submit a lynch vote gets a cookie!

 

[TrashPanda]

Some thoughts as I get caught up...

We were suspicious of hyge as being a juggler yesterday and then a juggler ends up as part of the story line today...possibly as the one that tried to off Dr. S?

Dr. S's new story seems convincing but so many of the things she's said this far have made me sway back and forth about what I think about her. Wolf or villager? I honestly cannot say at this point...

Did hyge really not cast a lunch vote yesterday? If so that makes me pretty suspicious...

This is the last tally:

Noob-ish Lynch Tally:
cdoconn (2) - hurtem, Dr. S
Bottle of Bear (2) - LIS, raf
Dr. S (0) -
hygebeorht (7) - LyraG, AM, mmmdreamerz, awesomenessity, serher, SkiOtter, BoB
jmo (8) - Snowshoe, Karabou, wallydo, SAR, Coopah, sheltermed, cdoconn, hyge
LIS (3) - kittenmittens, killerleaf, TrashPanda

22/23 (22?) votes

Deadline in 15 minutes at 9pm EST.

 

[Trilt]

The most classic version of WW, or mafia, had no information or roles beyond "village" and "scum," and they managed to still select lynch targets.

Lynching is part of the game. You'll be wrong more than you're right, and that's okay. Fight fervently, but go on whatever feelings, evidence, anything that you have and watch peoples' responses and arguments.... often that is more important than just the lynch itself. But the game is boring without accusations, and someone has been killing your friends!

 

[raf2769]

considering the village doesn't have much to go on except what is said on thread, I think it's inevitable that we will be voting to lynch people that are innocent. That's WW.
That being said, I am a sucker for cookies.

Based on feels alone, no solid information....
lynch hurtem&healem

 

[TrashPanda]

Some thoughts as I get caught up...

We were suspicious of hyge as being a juggler yesterday and then a juggler ends up as part of the story line today...possibly as the one that tried to off Dr. S?

Dr. S's new story seems convincing but so many of the things she's said this far have made me sway back and forth about what I think about her. Wolf or villager? I honestly cannot say at this point...

Did hyge really not cast a lunch vote yesterday? If so that makes me pretty suspicious...

Oops, can't edit but yeah, she voted for jmo and I missed it.

 

[hurtem&healem]

@hygebeorht I'm not accusing, but I am curious if you care to offer any explanation for why you were mentioned in the write up

 

[hygebeorht]

@hygebeorht I'm not accusing, but I am curious if you care to offer any explanation for why you were mentioned in the write up

You mean why you THINK I was mentioned in the write up. I'm not biting, I'm done talking about my role in this circus.

 

[hygebeorht]

raf, my feels follow your feels. Barring more compelling evidence...

Lynch hurtem&healem

 

[Doctor-S]

I'll be absent until well after 9:00 PM (EST) tonight, so I'll also cast a vote to encourage more performers to participate ina meaningful debate on this thread:

Lynch hygebeorht

 

[TrashPanda]

You were wrong yesterday when you voted to lynch LIS, and you're wrong today too. This theory is incoherent.

So you agree with the redirect theory. You think I'm a juggler wolf who redirected a villager special kill to try to kill Dr. S.

Here are the reasons you are wrong:

A) I suggested the redirect theory to the thread in the first place. Why would I do something so stupid as to bring up an ability (one that no one had remembered existed!) if I had been using it to sneakily kill villagers. Come on.

B) I did vote yesterday, read the thread.

C) I'm not talking about my role anymore since you guys are so ready to lynch anyone who reveals the slightest hint about themselves.

Do your homework before you start throwing accusations, TrashPanda. A lot of people yesterday voted for people who are 100% innocent, and you were one of them. You need to be smarter - you're not off my list of possible wolves yet.

A) No idea, but you did a good job incriminating yourself yesterday, too. Notice I didn't vote to lynch you, in part because you were the one who made the comment. (So maybe you threw out partial information in order to make it seem like it was someone else.) Or maybe you are innocent! As others have said, it's early and wrong accusations will be thrown.

B) I apologize for not reading carefully. No need to get defensive.

C) Fine, but that also sounds like you refusing to defend yourself (i.e., refusing to explain why you were in the write-up). We know you didn't personally kill anyone, so if you had an innocent explanation, I feel like you'd use it.

As for me not being off your list of possible wolves- of course I'm not! It's way too early in the game. I know I'm not a wolf and I know the villagers who died are not wolves. That's it. If you have any ideas about who is or is not a wolf, you should share them. I find it strange that you voted to lynch jmo yesterday, I mentioned a reason to suspect jmo in my post, but then you totally ignored it to kind of but not really defend yourself.

 

[Bottle of Bear]

You voted for cdoconn too, A+ choice there.

As did DocS. I don't think you're the killer, accidental or otherwise, but we need more compelling information to do a lynch than feelings imo

 

[killerleaf]

at this point, I think feels may be the only thing we have to go on.

###Lynch bottle of bear###

 

[LetItSnow]

C'mon noobs - your lynch vote numbers are pathetic!

 

[hygebeorht]

Sure. My vote is based on many things, but the records I have been keeping of this game have certainly informed my feelings. I have a lot of possible wolves to choose from so I'm picking one.

People I currently doubt are wolves: snowshoe dog, karabiner, sheltered, raf, SARdh, jmo, wallydo. I may be wrong but I'm not likely to vote for any of them either at this point.

 

[deleted806434]

at this point, I think feels may be the only thing we have to go on.

###Lynch bottle of bear###

The only reason I was considering BoB is that cdoconn was suspicious of BoB, and cdoconn died. What are your other reasons? I'm not sure I'm compelled by that reason alone.

 

[hygebeorht]

A) No idea, but you did a good job incriminating yourself yesterday, too. Notice I didn't vote to lynch you, in part because you were the one who made the comment. (So maybe you threw out partial information in order to make it seem like it was someone else.) Or maybe you are innocent! As others have said, it's early and wrong accusations will be thrown.

You're right, sorry I got defensive :/

 

[killerleaf]

The only reason I was considering BoB is that cdoconn was suspicious of BoB, and cdoconn died. What are your other reasons? I'm not sure I'm compelled by that reason alone.

soo..you don't think it is suspicious that cdconn died after voting for Bob? and also Letitsnow was suspicious of Bob too...and where is he now??

 

[nyanko]

MORE DEATH REQUIRED

 

[Trilt]

Officialish Lynch Tally
H&H (2) - Raf, Hyge
Hyge (1) - Doc-S,
BYOB (1) - Killerleaf

4/20 - Deadline at 9PM EST (~4 hours)

 

[Bottle of Bear]

The only reason I was considering BoB is that cdoconn was suspicious of BoB, and cdoconn died. What are your other reasons? I'm not sure I'm compelled by that reason alone.

She was suspicious because I defended DocS

 

[Bottle of Bear]

soo..you don't think it is suspicious that cdconn died after voting for Bob? and also Letitsnow was suspicious of Bob too...and where is he now??

Cdo didn't vote for me. LIS, the oldest man alive, died of natural causes.

Pretty telling you've decided to target me for no reason

 

[deleted806434]

soo..you don't think it is suspicious that cdconn died after voting for Bob? and also Letitsnow was suspicious of Bob too...and where is he now??

No, I'm not saying it isn't suspicious (in fact I was saying I see where you are coming from), I was wondering if you had any other reasons. If not, that's fine.

 

[hurtem&healem]

I don't buy the exact scenario Trash laid out, but I'm going with the juggler theory.

lynch hygebeorht

 

[deleted806434]

Right now, I'm going to

lynch hyge

I think that hyge possibly has more information about what happened last night that they haven't shared. So I'm possibly right for being suspicious, or I'm making a mistake regarding a valuable player. Waffles are possibly in my future. Nothing personal, just getting a vote on the board.

 

[deleted806434]

woah ninja'd

 

[sheltermed]

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[sheltermed]

I think I'm caught up, but a little confused. Where is the redirect theory coming from? What's the logic behind that? If I could have a few opinions on it? -- My attention span is really crappy right now (and most of the time..) so if it's been explained at length I'm sorry I missed it.

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Still looking for the dog, spent hours in the woods today. I really promise that this is why I haven't been participating to the best of my ability. I'm really trying my best!
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[TrashPanda]

You're right, sorry I got defensive :/

No worries! To be fair, I did accuse you of being a sort-of murderer.

Btw, I checked and jmo is the one who didn't cast a vote yesterday. I assume that has to do with her family issues. However, I'm still suspicious because the mods ignored the lynch vote to kill LIS (which could have been predetermined) and there was talk of replacing jmo even when it looked like she'd be lynched. I feel like she's probably either a villager with an important ability or she's a wolf. Or maybe she had some lynch-dodging ability or the mods just thought it was funny to kill LIS of old age.

soo..you don't think it is suspicious that cdconn died after voting for Bob? and also Letitsnow was suspicious of Bob too...and where is he now??

Cdo did suspect BoB, but she waffled and voted for jmo, and then at night before being killed, said she still suspected Dr. S. I think Cdo suspected BoB for defending Dr. S. I'm really not sure about why Cdo didn't vote to lynch Dr. S after suspecting her so much.

 

[sheltermed]

Also, are we wondering about a redirect because two villagers died, or is it normal for more than one to be targeted and successfully killed in one cycle?

 

[Trilt]

Officialish Lynch Tally
H&H (2) - Raf, Hyge
Hyge (3) - Doc-S, H&H, serher
BYOB (1) - Killerleaf

6/20 - Deadline at 9PM EST (~3.5 hours)

 

[wallydo]

I may regret this but my instinct for this evening is to follow DrS. I believe her wisdom will help us through the night.


Lynch hygebeorht

 

[Bottle of Bear]

Also, are we wondering about a redirect because two villagers died, or is it normal for more than one to be targeted and successfully killed in one cycle?

That's what we're concerned about

 

[hygebeorht]

Whoops meant to do the @'s but forgot so here's my "edit" (since we can't edit)

People I currently doubt are wolves: @SnowshoeDog143 , @Karabiner13 , @sheltemed (sorry about your doggie :c), @raf2769 , @SARdoghandler, @jmo1012, @wallydo. I may be wrong but I'm not likely to vote for any of them either at this point.

 

[hygebeorht]

* @sheltermed

 

[sheltermed]

That's what we're concerned about

Okay! In that case, I understand the logic behind some folks thinking there was a redirect.

 

[hygebeorht]

Okay! In that case, I understand the logic behind some folks thinking there was a redirect.

I've only read through one game thread but I seem to recall multiple villagers dying most nights. It was a quick read though. But yeah, the why is the question.

 

[TrashPanda]

Also, are we wondering about a redirect because two villagers died, or is it normal for more than one to be targeted and successfully killed in one cycle?

No idea, but I'd like to know this too. A few things that make me suspect a redirection:

1) Two villagers were killed, which doesn't seem typical (but I'm not really sure and would also like to know about past games/wolf abilities).

2) Coopah died, and I can't figure out why. She wasn't so active that she'd be an obvious target, but she also wasn't totally inactive. She voted for jmo, but so did a lot of others. I don't see why she'd be a target.

3) Dr. S claims to have been targeted but protected. She could have been protected by a wolf redirecting the attack (or a villager for that matter, but then why would the second target be a villager?)

4) A juggler was mentioned in the writeup. Why, and why was he confused? Seems to me like he wanted to target someone but was redirected.

Basically, there are a lot of unanswered questions and the redirection theory (in my opinion) best answers them. It's definitely not the only possibility though- maybe someone will pop up with an alternate one.

 

[sheltermed]

Is it possible that there are both a protector AND a redirector (I don't think that's a word sorry)? So, if a redirector got word that X was protected, could they say who gets targeted instead?

 

[sheltermed]

Is it possible that there are both a protector AND a redirector (I don't think that's a word sorry)? So, if a redirector got word that X was protected, could they say who gets targeted instead?

Just going off of this, do wolves only have the ability to kill (plain and simple) or can they kill in a "special" way, i.e. (in this case) in the form of a redirect? Do wolves exist that CANNOT kill? If there is such a thing as a redirector wolf, maybe they can't kill unless someone is targeted and subsequently protected?

 

[hygebeorht]

Reading back through Child's Play again, night actions are described. There are near-miss assassinations described. If the attempted murder and the magical protector event happened as Dr. S says, why isn't it described in the write up today?

 

[TrashPanda]

Reading back through Child's Play again, night actions are described. There are near-miss assassinations described. If the attempted murder and the magical protector event happened as Dr. S says, why isn't it described in the write up today?

Ooh, this is a really good point. I don't think Dr. S would straight up lie about what happened, but that does make me suspect that there's something else going on.