Lurking Beloww: Sea Monsters Sign Ups and Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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Why do you think this? More how do you know this? You know how many wolves there are?

If there's any more than two, you're screwed.

 

[Karabiner13]

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Any harry potter fans in here, btw? Goblet of fire is one of my faves.

But now I'm leaving for real to go have some margaritas with my school friends.

Will probably return later even more all over the place.

Adios

Funny thing. I'm currently watching the movies
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[StartingoverVet]

If there's any more than two, you're screwed.

Shouldn’t that be WE ARE screwed?
You sound like a villager outsider. Wolf or chaos.
Happy with my vote more now

 

[DVMDream]

If there's any more than two, you're screwed.

Figure out those numbers on thread please. With a one night kill

 

[Skimble]

Ok hold the phone.

First, do you not think it would be kind of stupid and attention grabbing for wolves to fake an attack on someone twice in a row? Someone who has seemed pretty village? Like... what?

Umm... if it works, then yes, I believe wolves would ABSOLUTELY do this. Why is that so hard for you to believe?

Second, the last sentence of your post is hella freaking wolfy. Could you not think of a single reason why someone might not be dead, if there was a night in between possible kill attempts?

You were not on my radar at ALL until today, but you just skyrocketed up into my wolfy reads.

We'll come back to this later..

I see you completely danced around revealing. Now then, would you say this is a similar setup to the last game? Is it the same point of the game?

No dancing involved. I ALWAYS think it's a terrible idea. I think it's sketchy that village (vanilla) AM thought it was a great idea last game, and now thinks it's a terrible idea. I find that sketchy. Not sure what you don't understand about that. I don't think I can be any more clear.

Did I say that?

You were asked why genny was notified she was seered and you weren't, and that was the explanation you provided. I'm confused, so lets ask again, why do you think genny was notified she was seered and you were not?

Did DVMD fabricate too?

Probably not, since you confirmed it. A good fabrication always includes some truth.

Anyways, all the people on the SAR lynch have me feeling things. Except jboo obviously. I asked @Skimble yesterday why the vote on SAR, was it just feels or other things and never got a response so I’m asking again. And Stagg I don’t know there was a thing he said in particular that pinged my feels I’ll have to try and find it. However not as sure on it. And then AM who I never am good at reading but I’m tired of just reading something that’s sketchy for any other person to do but for AM it’s fine.

Sorry, must have missed you asking, or it was included in the multi-quote that I lost, but I explained my reasons for SAR D2, they haven't changed and her posts haven't changed my mind at all.

In the middle of all of this...

I feel like it is time to dish some details, AM. You've already gotten attacked twice; the only way that actually happens is:

- You are a protector and had the presence of mind/ability to protect yourself on non-consecutive nights. Which, if so, great, but you're probably ****ed unless you can protect yourself an unlimited # of times

- Someone else here protected you twice, in which case I'd recommend acting like someone who is worth protecting a third time

- You are a woof with some kind of nk avoidance, and there is a serial killer out there or a chaos with a kill ability (kinda like SAR for this one, tbh) who keeps targeting you

- You are a 3rd party and are immune to night kills, perhaps a certain # of them.

My personal favorite is the last option, for the record. 2nd to last option is probably my runner up choice at this time.

I play nice with 3rd parties, you should know that about me. I might even let you live until end-end game. I think it would significantly move this shiz along if you felt like ponying up the deets, because assume you would still be actively wolf hunting.

Otherwise, I feel like you have to be lying about those attacks.

If there are factions, we are already at end game. If there are not, then I assume whoever is attacking you is going to keep doing it regardless.

Spill.

So... you can ask her to spill it, but I can't? The night cancel thing makes me think you aren't wolf, but that's really the only thing keeping me from lynching you today. I'm ok with voting for you in the future though.

Side note: I feel like dead chat is probably ready to murder me right about now
🤣

I'm not opposed to killing you now, but you are kind of on the back burner.

You are all over the place this game. Skim questioned AM about pretty much the same thing (but in many less words) and immediately you mentioned her getting sketch points for it. But a few hours later you're demanding the same information from AM.

THANK YOU!!!!!

 

[Animal Midwife]

Shouldn’t that be WE ARE screwed?
You sound like a villager outsider. Wolf or chaos.
Happy with my vote more now

No, I'm not saying we because I'm the one getting lynched and it won't be my problem after I die.

Figure out those numbers on thread please. With a one night kill

No, because that's an impossibilty. I'm not going to let people be lulled anyone into a false sense of security.

No dancing involved. I ALWAYS think it's a terrible idea. I think it's sketchy that village (vanilla) AM thought it was a great idea last game, and now thinks it's a terrible idea. I find that sketchy. Not sure what you don't understand about that. I don't think I can be any more clear.

Please tell me what this game and last game have in common.

You were asked why genny was notified she was seered and you weren't, and that was the explanation you provided. I'm confused, so lets ask again, why do you think genny was notified she was seered and you were not?

That's not what I said at all and I don't know where you're getting this from. I came to the assumption genny wasn't notified.

Probably not, since you confirmed it. A good fabrication always includes some truth.

So, I'm confirming DVMD as a fabrication and that makes it true? What?

 

[Skimble]

Please tell me what this game and last game have in common.

They are both WW games. This game you are more likely a wolf, last game you were a villager.

That's not what I said at all and I don't know where you're getting this from. I came to the assumption genny wasn't notified.

I thought genny WAS notified of the seering, so please answer, why would she have been notified and you were not?

So, I'm confirming DVMD as a fabrication and that makes it true? What?

What? Did you not read everything I said? You could have easily fabricated your conversation with snowy. A GOOD fabrication would include things that were actually said, and would probably be mostly true, but just change a few things to make you look innocent. You confirmed that snowy told you that she told DVMD to look at you if she died, so, no I don't think DVMD fabricated her part, unless you are both wolves, which I don't see being very likely.

I agree with SOV. If snowy seered and trusted AM, why would she have warned DVMD about her? It just doesn't make sense.

 

[bryndiana.jones]

I agree with SOV. If snowy seered and trusted AM, why would she have warned DVMD about her? It just doesn't make sense.

Ummmm...because AM could be unseerable or a convert

 

[Animal Midwife]

They are both WW games. This game you are more likely a wolf, last game you were a villager.

Can you tell if someone's lying about their role based on what they claim? Do you know which roles are impossible in this game?

I thought genny WAS notified of the seering, so please answer, why would she have been notified and you were not?

Why do you think she was notified?

What? Did you not read everything I said? You could have easily fabricated your conversation with snowy. A GOOD fabrication would include things that were actually said, and would probably be mostly true, but just change a few things to make you look innocent. You confirmed that snowy told you that she told DVMD to look at you if she died, so, no I don't think DVMD fabricated her part, unless you are both wolves, which I don't see being very likely.

I agree with SOV. If snowy seered and trusted AM, why would she have warned DVMD about her? It just doesn't make sense.

What part(s) of it looks fabricated? If you answer "the whole thing", my eyes will roll right out of my head.

 

[Skimble]

Can you tell if someone's lying about their role based on what they claim? Do you know which roles are impossible in this game?

You could always catch someone claiming a role that belongs to someone else in ANY game. Also, you were originally just asked for your role name, not your ability. Not sure why you are so up in arms about that, unless you have a really wolfy role name. I did reveal to pm partners pretty early in the game.

Why do you think she was notified?

I thought that is what was said on thread, forgive me if I'm wrong.

What part(s) of it looks fabricated? If you answer "the whole thing", my eyes will roll right out of my head.

Obviously the parts that implicate your innocence. 🙄

Ummmm...because AM could be unseerable or a convert

Uhh… yeah I know. My point is AM is not cleared in any way.

 

[dolphin106258]

If DVMD is village and I'm an idk, who's a wolf to you?

I’m not doing so great this game but one of the three on SAR, so you, Stagg and Skimble. But that’s assuming I’m reading SAR correctly and village. But outside of recently you being more sketchy to me, I had you as more village earlier in the game.

If not then I go back to the jboo lynch, where I already mentioned snowy (v), me (v) and Pippy (v). So I’d say SAR or BJ. BJ has pinged my feels a few times but has mostly flown under the radar for me. Not bc of low activity but legitimately bc her posts have just been meshing together with others. I don’t even feel like a lot of other people have mentioned BJ has been on their radar village or wolf. Have I missed that?

I haven’t seen a tally in awhile but I feel like most posts I read were looking at you or SAR? Is this gonna be like we have to lynch one of you for village to move on. Bc I don’t know if I agree with either lynch.

 

[Animal Midwife]

You could always catch someone claiming a role that belongs to someone else in ANY game. Also, you were originally just asked for your role name, not your ability. Not sure why you are so up in arms about that, unless you have a really wolfy role name. I did reveal to pm partners pretty early in the game.

So kc and genny? Why did you do that? And just your role name or something else? What do wolfy role names look like? And how do you feel about SAR being the second one on me?

I thought that is what was said on thread, forgive me if I'm wrong.


Obviously the parts that implicate your innocence. 🙄

Where did you see it on thread? Which are?

Uhh… yeah I know. My point is AM is not cleared in any way.

So despite being attacked multiple times and lynching SAR, I'm not not at least a little village? When did you start wolf reading me?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I’m not doing so great this game but one of the three on SAR, so you, Stagg and Skimble. But that’s assuming I’m reading SAR correctly and village. But outside of recently you being more sketchy to me, I had you as more village earlier in the game.

If not then I go back to the jboo lynch, where I already mentioned snowy (v), me (v) and Pippy (v). So I’d say SAR or BJ. BJ has pinged my feels a few times but has mostly flown under the radar for me. Not bc of low activity but legitimately bc her posts have just been meshing together with others. I don’t even feel like a lot of other people have mentioned BJ has been on their radar village or wolf. Have I missed that?

I haven’t seen a tally in awhile but I feel like most posts I read were looking at you or SAR? Is this gonna be like we have to lynch one of you for village to move on. Bc I don’t know if I agree with either lynch.

Lynch who you think the wolf is always.

 

[dolphin106258]

Ok, but you think proactively sharing reads is somehow highly dangerous? The only ways that might really be risky would be:
1. If you are a seer, which you are not
2. If you are a wolf, and do not want to get trapped by committing to something.

If you have actually agreed with my reads this whole time -- which, based on your votes, it very much appears that you have -- then why do you still think I am such a threat?

You said in one of your first PM responses that you felt I was village. If you felt I was village, and you agreed with what I was saying to the point where you would follow me on votes, why would you still be so paranoid about me being sketchy? Do you think I have been playing the same way as the last 2 games?

I can't believe that I scare people THAT badly.

I said that I tunneled on jboo so that’s why I didn’t post a ton of reads bc I’ve been working under the thought that there are two wolves, so I thought jboo was one. I didn’t keep any of my reads off the thread, I already said I posted what I felt or thought on the thread. I just didn’t have as much as normal bc I had a strong candidate in my mind and was busier, so I kept with my gut.

I agree with your reads yes so I’ve thought you were village but in that game with plurality. You manipulated my brain hardcore and I just didn’t want to make the same mistake twice. Bc I had you village then too.

 

[Skimble]

So kc and genny? Why did you do that? And just your role name or something else? What do wolfy role names look like? And how do you feel about SAR being the second one on me?

I did it for reason's which kc and genny know/knew. I told kc pretty much everything, again for reasons, which I don't want to disclose on thread right now.
I have no idea what a wolfy role looks like, I'm just wondering why you are all up in arms about being asked for your role name, when you were cool with asking EVERYONE to reveal their ability last game. Why are you so against revealing your role name?
I think SAR being on your vote is good wolf play, assuming you are both wolves.

Where did you see it on thread? Which are?

I thought that is what someone said this morning/over night. Maybe I read it wrong, maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

So despite being attack multiple times and lynching SAR, I'm not not at least a little village? When did you start wolf reading me?

I have nothing but your word saying you were attacked. So no, that doesn't make you village. I think the fact that snowy felt the need to warm someone about you, says a lot.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I said that I tunneled on jboo so that’s why I didn’t post a ton of reads bc I’ve been working under the thought that there are two wolves, so I thought jboo was one. I didn’t keep any of my reads off the thread, I already said I posted what I felt or thought on the thread. I just didn’t have as much as normal bc I had a strong candidate in my mind and was busier, so I kept with my gut.

I agree with your reads yes so I’ve thought you were village but in that game with plurality. You manipulated my brain hardcore and I just didn’t want to make the same mistake twice. Bc I had you village then too.

Wait. How long have you thought there are two wolves? That's an abysmally low number for this many players.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I did it for reason's which kc and genny know/knew. I told kc pretty much everything, again for reasons, which I don't want to disclose on thread right now.
I have no idea what a wolfy role looks like, I'm just wondering why you are all up in arms about being asked for your role name, when you were cool with asking EVERYONE to reveal their ability last game. Why are you so against revealing your role name?
I think SAR being on your vote is good wolf play, assuming you are both wolves.

Why have I been pushing SAR in viable territory all game if she's w/w with me? Again, tell me what was to be gained from people reveal abilities at lylo last game? What is to be gained from revealing role name at not lylo?

I thought that is what someone said this morning/over night. Maybe I read it wrong, maybe I'm remembering it wrong.

Kind of would think you'd take this more seriously if I have information that doesn't exist on the thread. Is there a reason you haven't double checked yet?

I have nothing but your word saying you were attacked. So no, that doesn't make you village. I think the fact that snowy felt the need to warm someone about you, says a lot.

Do you think she shouldn't have told anyone? Is that good village play?

 

[bryndiana.jones]

I agree with SOV. If snowy seered and trusted AM, why would she have warned DVMD about her? It just doesn't make sense.

Uhh… yeah I know. My point is AM is not cleared in any way.

Why would she have any reason to trust AM 100%? You are implying that she told dvmd because she still didn't trust AM (which I get) but it seems smart to do this either way. Unless she didn't trust AM at all, in which case she shouldn't tell AM squat. My problem here is that it seems like you are trying to throw extra sketch at AM, despite the fact that both dvmd and AM should be in pretty similar boats in terms of the likelihood of either being a wolf. So why AM over dvmd?

 

[PippyPony]

Why do you think she was notified?

Just popping in to say:

She was notified. You asked her about it at one point.

Unless you think there was another action that gave her that "hopping" result, but in that case, idk why you would like my post this morning when I said I thought it was the notification from snowy, based on her being a Kappa.

Not saying I am reversing my stance on you being a bad lynch at this point; I'm just confused about why you're asking Jil for clarification for something that's been on the thread like 3x now.

 

[kaydubs]

Votes are posted at midships on the 1st deck.

SAR (2) - AM, bryndi
DVMD (0) -
AM (4) - dvmd, SAR, skimble, SOV
dolphin (1) - pippy

Shift change in ~1.65 hours
7/12 passengers accounted for

Take a look out there

 

[kaydubs]

Role call:
@Crayola227 (???) @allieh8607 @Stagg737 @dolphin106258 @kcoughli

 

[Animal Midwife]

Just popping in to say:

She was notified. You asked her about it at one point.

Unless you think there was another action that gave her that "hopping" result, but in that case, idk why you would like my post this morning when I said I thought it was the notification from snowy, based on her being a Kappa.

Not saying I am reversing my stance on you being a bad lynch at this point; I'm just confused about why you're asking Jil for clarification for something that's been on the thread like 3x now.

I liked the post for the night number and mention of genny. I'm strongly doubting she was notified based on Snowy's and my conversation.

 

[PippyPony]

Shouldn’t that be WE ARE screwed?
You sound like a villager outsider. Wolf or chaos.
Happy with my vote more now

Even if she was a 3rd party, it appears she is rather difficult to kill. You think that would be more indicative of chaos/something that would win alone vs a neutral/something that could win with village?

 

[Skimble]

Why have I been pushing SAR in viable territory all game if she's w/w with me? Again, tell me what was to be gained from people reveal abilities at lylo last game? What is to be gained from revealing role name at not lylo?

Wolves do weird things sometimes. So yeah, it's totally possible. I'm not saying you are both 100% wolf, but it is for sure possible.

What I'm asking is what do you have to LOSE from telling your role name? THAT is my point that you seem to keep missing/skirting around. I'm not sure how many different ways I can say that. You thought it was ok to reveal ABILITIES before, but now you can't even give up your role name? It makes no sense to me, unless you have something to hide.

Kind of would think you'd take this more seriously if I have information that doesn't exist on the thread. Is there a reason you haven't double checked yet?

It's not my life on the line, it's yours. You want to live, go look, but you don't need to, because pippy already came on and just told you.

Do you think she shouldn't have told anyone? Is that good village play?

🙄🙄🙄 Clearly she had reason to suspect you. I'm willing to role with that, and honestly from your responses today, I'm even more ok with it.

 

[PippyPony]

I liked the post for the night number and mention of genny. I'm strongly doubting she was notified based on Snowy's and my conversation.

Ok, so where's the action that is still unaccounted for? It pretty much has to be you, SAR, or KC in my mind at this point.

 

[PippyPony]

Wolves do weird things sometimes. So yeah, it's totally possible. I'm not saying you are both 100% wolf, but it is for sure possible

I feel like it's really, really not. Not if they are in the same pack.

 

[Animal Midwife]

What I'm asking is what do you have to LOSE from telling your role name? THAT is my point that you seem to keep missing/skirting around. I'm not sure how many different ways I can say that. You thought it was ok to reveal ABILITIES before, but now you can't even give up your role name? It makes no sense to me, unless you have something to hide.

I've already answered this three times now Skim.

 

[WildZoo]

Last time a seer was killed in a game and said "kill this person" it was coffee and Mel. Coffee was right, Mel was a wolf but we all ignored coffee's final "if I die, watch Mel" and wolves won. That's what I'm calling gut instinct

It's fooled me once but hopefully not twice

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I've so thoroughly scrubbed that from my brain that I basically convinced myself the lynch went through when I did try to get cheezit lynched the next day.
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[Animal Midwife]

Ok, so where's the action that is still unaccounted for? It pretty much has to be you, SAR, or KC in my mind at this point.

The delayed block? Probably targeting vanillas or people with actions who wouldn't be affected by blocks. I don't know what SAR or kc's abilities are. I'm just lynching based on content.

 

[PippyPony]

The delayed block? Probably targeting vanillas or people with actions who wouldn't be affected by blocks. I don't know what SAR or kc's abilities are. I'm just lynching based on content.

No. The hoppity hoppity hop that genny thought was seering or tracking.

That's why I was asking you earlier if you thought they were separate actions.

 

[Skimble]

I've already answered this three times now Skim.

Well clearly I've missed it since I've asked like 5 times in the past hour and you keep avoiding it. Let's try this again... What do you have to lose from revealing your role name? Seems like the way the vote is going, you may lose your life today.

The delayed block? Probably targeting vanillas or people with actions who wouldn't be affected by blocks. I don't know what SAR or kc's abilities are. I'm just lynching based on content.

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

 

[PippyPony]

This feels like back to villagey Jil to me haha

 

[Animal Midwife]

No. The hoppity hoppity hop that genny thought was seering or tracking.

That's why I was asking you earlier if you thought they were separate actions.

Haven't seen anyone with multiple abilities so I don't see a reason to think otherwise. I have no idea about the hopping. When I confronted Snowy about it's she didn't seem to know whether it was her own flavor or not.

 

[KCgophervet]

Role call:
@Crayola227 (???) @allieh8607 @Stagg737 @dolphin106258 @kcoughli

Working on it, peeps be chatty on thread today. Trying to catch up

 

[Animal Midwife]

Well clearly I've missed it since I've asked like 5 times in the past hour and you keep avoiding it. Let's try this again... What do you have to lose from revealing your role name? Seems like the way the vote is going, you may lose your life today.

My hair will fall out. Good. I hope I lose my life. I don't need this.

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

No.

 

[PippyPony]

Ugggghhhhhhhh

I want a margarita STAT to deal with this nonsense but we are still waiting for ice

 

[SkiOtter]

I heart jellies so much

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In undergrad the prof used to put the Monterey bay jelly cam on the tv screens around the room during biochem lab. So lovely
*****

 

[KCgophervet]

Ok, so where's the action that is still unaccounted for? It pretty much has to be you, SAR, or KC in my mind at this point.

Sorry, I skimmed pretty quickly, is this a question for me? I'm confused...

 

[KCgophervet]

Um okay I think I'm mostly caught up and what I've caught is that cagey-AM is likely wolf or chaos.

Lynch AM

Holy bananas today.

 

[bryndiana.jones]

@Skimble you didn't answer my question, why am over dvmd?

 

[bryndiana.jones]

Um okay I think I'm mostly caught up and what I've caught is that cagey-AM is likely wolf or chaos.

Lynch AM

Holy bananas today.

Why her over DVMD?

 

[PippyPony]

Um okay I think I'm mostly caught up and what I've caught is that cagey-AM is likely wolf or chaos.

Lynch AM

Holy bananas today.

Liked for holy bananas, dislike for AM vote.

 

[dolphin106258]

Wait. How long have you thought there are two wolves? That's an abysmally low number for this many players.

Bc I discussed the numbers with Pippy and told her the game I was a wolf on it was a two wolf game with converts obviously after wolves were lynched. And it’s just been in the back of my head and the more villagers that have died have just increased the possibility in my brain.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Bc I discussed the numbers with Pippy and told her the game I was a wolf on it was a two wolf game with converts obviously after wolves were lynched. And it’s just been in the back of my head and the more villagers that have died have just increased the possibility in my brain.

Do you think there are converts in this game?

 

[KCgophervet]

It's a shame Snowy died, isn't it? Almost ironic.

Why her over DVMD?

See above post.

Liked for holy bananas, dislike for AM vote.

See above post.

If that doesn't read as snarky alpha wolf or uber-chaos IDK what does.

 

[kaydubs]

Votes are posted at midships on the 1st deck.

SAR (2) - AM, bryndi
DVMD (0) -
AM (5) - dvmd, SAR, skimble, SOV, kcough
dolphin (1) - pippy

Shift change in ~1.17 hours
8/12 passengers accounted for

Take a look out there

 

[KCgophervet]

Why her over DVMD?

I also was reading DVMD fairly village earlier (potentially based on her interactions with Pipperoni, who I still have issues with but I digress...)

 

[StartingoverVet]

Even if she was a 3rd party, it appears she is rather difficult to kill. You think that would be more indicative of chaos/something that would win alone vs a neutral/something that could win with village?

Sounds a bit like that TBH

 

[Animal Midwife]

See above post.

See above post.

If that doesn't read as snarky alpha wolf or uber-chaos IDK what does.

lmao One post. You missed the important context of this.

 

[dolphin106258]

Do you think there are converts in this game?

Well not yet bc we haven’t lynched a wolf.