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Ok, thank you for the undershirt help guys. I think I will wear one.
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How do I say this nicely..hmm..this is pre-med BS.
Yes, people judge you and If you look like crap they will notice, same if you smell.
But I have interviewed hundreds of people in the last decade for jobs (most in the $60-75k/yr range) and 24 hours after the interview I couldn't tell you candidate's tie color if my life was on the line. Though I might remember if you didn't wear one.
You want to look like you belong, but nobody is going to say "he would make a great Dr, but that black suit just didn't hang right on him, send him packing"
Look nice, relax and most importantly remember they want to know what kind of physician you will be, not if you know which color tie makes people think happy thoughts.
PS: to clarify I wear a shirt/tie to work everyday. I will be wearing my charcoal suit and one of a couple shirt/tie combos depending on my mood when I pack.
So you wouldn't remember if someone's appearance looked off, or if they wore something outlandish?
Outlandish or inappropriate yes. But baby blue vs robin blue, not a chance.
More importantly, obvious no-no's like brown shoes with black slacks might be noticed, I would not have made a hiring decision based on it.
I guess at schools with students doing interviews it might come into play, but part of being professional is learning NOT to judge on appearance.
Not judging a book by the cover is like saying you've got 5 senses, but try to use only 4 of them. The author/publisher/literary agent spent a lot of time coming up with a cover. And you're gonna ignore it?
How you dress is important. It is an extension of our subconscious about our own tastes, likes, and dislikes. It reflects on our adherence to rules, our respect for social norms, etc. And yet, we're suppose to ignore all that and go solely on a bunch of rehearsed answers? I find that disturbing. Be gestaltists.
Suit coat buttoned, or open?
I wore a PS everywhere I interviewed. I think I might have even done a colored one at one of my interviewsThis is for residency but would apply to med school interviews equally well. Do you guys think a plain white pocket square is too fashion forward? (or sartorial, if thats a more appropriate term.)
Just fold it conservatively (show just a line) when in doubt.
No. You are good to do with it. Just fold it square. No peacocking or anything.This is for residency but would apply to med school interviews equally well. Do you guys think a plain white pocket square is too fashion forward? (or sartorial, if thats a more appropriate term.)
are cool. But for interviews it seems good to stick to a normal necktiebowtie?
I did not read the entire thread (or the previous ones for that matter)...
What about people with brown skin (aka Indians)? Any preference? Something to avoid?
Currently I have two suits, one black the other is a charcoal pinstripe (looks like this, but a little darker).
Also, as previously asked, what about navy blue blazer and khaki pants? I can find that color blazer in my size...
The major problem with me (as I said in the previous thread) are my dimensions. I am 5'8, 105 pounds, and my shoulder width fits that of a boys18. So that cuts down the selection considerably and custom suits are ridiculously expensive. I have tried to gain weight, but that has not worked in the past...
Also, does anyone's feet hurt from wearing dress shoes? I have no problem with sneakers or boots, but dress shoes begin to kill my feet in a few hours.
standards for you are the same ones that work for everyone else:
- navy or charcoal suit
- white or blue shirt
- conservative tie
do not wear a navy blazer + khakis -- you need to be dressed professionally and blazer + khakis is not considered professional dress.
for someone of your proportions, made-to-measure is probably your best bet for a good suit. Try www.indochino.com - they have the most affordable MTM suits that I've seen. otherwise you could try searching the boys section at your local dept stores. the boys-size BB shirts actually fit me pretty well, and if they weren't a tad less formal than the adult shirts I would've used one for the interview.
your feet probably hurt because you bought cheap shoes. instead of dropping $100 on a pair of Bass that will make your feet hurt and fall apart in a year, spend that $100 on a used pair of Allen-Edmonds Park Avenues on ebay. They are known to last for decades (you can re-sole them b/c the soles are stitched on instead of glued on like the cheaper brands) and your feet will be much more comfortable.
if you really do not want the high quality shoes and want a new pair, I had a pair of Rockports a long time ago that were pretty comfortable.
You're right, the Canali is probably overpriced.Been following this thread for a while, now I have my own questions: Went out with the "rich" aunt today to go suit shopping.. Went to Nordstroms, Jos. A Bank, and Brooks Bros.
Nordstroms: Bought some Park Ave Allen Edmonds in Black, matching belt. Tried on a Canali Suit in Charcoal Grey, she loved it. Sticker shocker: $1500 suit. I said helllll no. Went to Jos A Bank, no help from the salesmen, walked out in 10 min. Went to Brooks Bros and found an awesome fitting 1818 Regents suit that made me feel really comfortable and confident. Only thing is: It comes in Black with grey pinstriping ONLY. So disappointed with the color selection. Aunt wanted to buy the Canali Suit, but I wouldn't let her.
I know I want something that will last me a long time, possibly to residency and beyond. What can I do now? The fit on the Regents was a 41R, but the Canali was a 42R. I really think that my true size is 41R as a 40R feels a tad too constricting while a 42R feels a tad too big in the shoulders.
MTM Suits any good? Indochino suits? Willing to spend the cash if the value is there.
Thanks.
inb4spoiled. My aunt only buys me things I *need* and she recognizes the necessity of a good, longlasting, fitted suit.
sucks that the service was bad. I want your aunt. BB is probably the best bet. You could order, or you can try going in some night this week. Sales people there are more laid back it seems when it isn't the weekend.Been following this thread for a while, now I have my own questions: Went out with the "rich" aunt today to go suit shopping.. Went to Nordstroms, Jos. A Bank, and Brooks Bros.
Nordstroms: Bought some Park Ave Allen Edmonds in Black, matching belt. Tried on a Canali Suit in Charcoal Grey, she loved it. Sticker shocker: $1500 suit. I said helllll no. Went to Jos A Bank, no help from the salesmen, walked out in 10 min. Went to Brooks Bros and found an awesome fitting 1818 Regents suit that made me feel really comfortable and confident. Only thing is: It comes in Black with grey pinstriping ONLY. So disappointed with the color selection. Aunt wanted to buy the Canali Suit, but I wouldn't let her.
I know I want something that will last me a long time, possibly to residency and beyond. What can I do now? The fit on the Regents was a 41R, but the Canali was a 42R. I really think that my true size is 41R as a 40R feels a tad too constricting while a 42R feels a tad too big in the shoulders.
MTM Suits any good? Indochino suits? Willing to spend the cash if the value is there.
Thanks.
inb4spoiled. My aunt only buys me things I *need* and she recognizes the necessity of a good, longlasting, fitted suit.
This is a general warning to the thread.are cool.
This is a general warning to the thread.
I WANT TO BE THE ONE TO SAY THIS!
That is all.
You're right, the Canali is probably overpriced.
Your aunt is willing to buy you a brookes brothers suit. That's fantastic. Pick up some slim or x-slim fit shirts from them while you're at it. Order a 41R in a fabric you like off the internet/through that BB store and then get any necessary tailoring done at the store (proper sleeve length, pants hem/waist, suit waist, etc.).
IDK if you need it ASAP for interviews. Hopefully you have a few weeks (although that's not to say I don't hope you already have some interviews!)
I want your aunt.
I did not read the entire thread (or the previous ones for that matter)...
What about people with brown skin (aka Indians)? Any preference? Something to avoid?
Currently I have two suits, one black the other is a charcoal pinstripe (looks like this, but a little darker).
Also, as previously asked, what about navy blue blazer and khaki pants? I can find that color blazer in my size...
The major problem with me (as I said in the previous thread) are my dimensions. I am 5'8, 105 pounds, and my shoulder width fits that of a boys18. So that cuts down the selection considerably and custom suits are ridiculously expensive. I have tried to gain weight, but that has not worked in the past...
Also, does anyone's feet hurt from wearing dress shoes? I have no problem with sneakers or boots, but dress shoes begin to kill my feet in a few hours.
You're right, the Canali is probably overpriced.
Your aunt is willing to buy you a brookes brothers suit. That's fantastic. Pick up some slim or x-slim fit shirts from them while you're at it. Order a 41R in a fabric you like off the internet/through that BB store and then get any necessary tailoring done at the store (proper sleeve length, pants hem/waist, suit waist, etc.).
IDK if you need it ASAP for interviews. Hopefully you have a few weeks (although that's not to say I don't hope you already have some interviews!)
Canali was fully canvassed vs the 1818's half-canvassed. Should I be concerned? (I don't know that much about this stuff, except fused = bad?)
I didn't have a chance to talk to the BB guy since they were busy, and so were we. Can BB make me a special order Regents 1818 in charcoal grey? I think I tried on the Fitzgerald, but it just didn't feel as "right" as the Regent cut did.
My first interview is 9/23, so I have a little less than 4 weeks. Enough time for a special order? Labor day is coming up. Does BB have Labor Day sales?
Thanks guys.
That belt would probably be fine, although it's really not hard to find a more conservative belt for cheap at like ross or marshalls or tjmaxx or something.Does the type of belt buckle matter for an interview? I own one similar to the one below
Is it appropriate or would it be better to stick with a traditional buckle?
and what about these $75 Florsheim shoes?
http://www.amazon.com/Florsheim-Mens-Canfield-Cap-Oxford/dp/B000GWD3W4
Lastly, I've seen many people say Jos A Bank's suits fit like your grandpas. But are they sufficient if you were to get them tailored?
Thanks
Does the type of belt buckle matter for an interview? I own one similar to the one below
Is it appropriate or would it be better to stick with a traditional buckle?
and what about these $75 Florsheim shoes?
http://www.amazon.com/Florsheim-Mens-Canfield-Cap-Oxford/dp/B000GWD3W4
Lastly, I've seen many people say Jos A Bank's suits fit like your grandpas. But are they sufficient if you were to get them tailored?
Thanks
I'm going back tonight to try on the Fitzgerald and the Milano as mentioned above, but had a question about pinstriping: good or bad? subtle pins ok?
Brooks Bros is having a 50% off sale (Today and Tomorrow - Wed/Thurs) on certain suits (mostly 1818s with non-solid colors) if anyone else is interested in checking it out. Brings most 1818s to ~$500.
Some would argue that a belt is unnecessary for tailored pants (I share this opinion). Belts are designed to hold your pants up -- if your pants are tailored to fit your waist, I see no need for a belt.
wear black dress shoes. Get used to wearing them because you will need to a lot. Find ones that you can walk in. They are out there.
Hey guys, I've never went to a med school interview, so not sure what to wear. In one of the interviews, the adcom told me to wear comfortable shoes, since there'll be a lot of walking. Does this mean I can wear some casual shoes (not sneakers obviously) that are not as formal as black dress shoes? Your advice would be great, thanks
Wear black dress shoes. Get used to wearing them because you will need to a lot. Find ones that you can walk in. They are out there.
+1. Dress shoes, like mattresses, are just one of those things where you can't skimp.
No, the adcom did not mean that you can wear sneakers to the interview. What they meant is that you can wear leather lace-up dress shoes and too bad if they are uncomfortable.
Some would argue that a belt is unnecessary for tailored pants (I share this opinion). Belts are designed to hold your pants up -- if your pants are tailored to fit your waist, I see no need for a belt.
1. a tailor can take in the the sides of the jacket, but after a certain point the garment begins to look awkward and unproportional. you will have a slim torso but will still have very loose sleeves unless you get them altered too.
2. boxy suits tend to have big armholes that extend way below your armpit. 'slim fit' suits tend to have higher armholes that will slim down your appearance even more, but if you buy a regular fit suit it will be impossible for you to take advantage of this effect because a tailor can't alter armholes.
for these reasons, I think it's best to buy a slim fit suit from the get-go. Macy's had some great deals a few mos ago when I bought mine -- maybe with Labor Day approaching you will see some more sales.
The BB sale looked tempting, but then I noticed that there were maybe 1 or 2 sizes available in the suits I looked at
Does anyone have any reconmendation for what to hold in your hands to the interview. I would feel awkward walking in empty handed, but I'm unsure what is appropriate plus I don't know if I SHOULD bring anything.
I pulled the trigger on the Brooks Bros 50% off sale on Wednesday. Got this Milano Grey Flannel Suit in a 42R. The fabric looks better in person. They didn't have my size in stock, but the guy checked other stores and they had a few around so don't go strictly off what you see on their clearance section online. Find a style you like, go to the store or call them and see if they have your size.
I feel like I can't go wrong with the pindots, but there's something about the deep muted purple that says classy to me.