So I've moved up on the (non-resident) waitlist a bit, but not as much as I was hoping. Since the Accept Deadline was on 4/15, does that mean that there will now not be very much movement on the waitlist?
It will continue to move over spring/summer. They iterate through the offer/accept-decline process several times.
How much it moves is anyone's guess, though.
People decline their IS tuition at the U of MN because there are OOS schools that cost the same or cheaper. The year I applied (for C/O 2018) they made it into the 30s.
Yup. At the time I started I could have gone to Wisconsin OOS for much cheaper than UMN IS. I always felt like that was a slap in the face.
I went to MN because I have a wife and kids and a house here. My kids have friends and are in a good school. My wife has friends. Etc.
Had I been young and less rooted, I would have gone elsewhere to avoid UMN's price tag. Excellent school, great staff, great facilities, nice location ......
ridiculous price tag. And they just keep doing almost nothing to deal with it. They are overpriced compared to other vet schools and sooner or later it is going to really start hurting them in terms of applicant pool. I love the school and don't want to see that happen. The steps they've taken have gone the right way, but aren't anywhere nearly enough.
Meanwhile, the dean of the school has seen his salary grow (if you view it over several years) at a nice hefty percentage that outpaces tuition increase. I don't really care that the guy makes a lot of money -- good on him for turning his degree into a money maker, and he is a great guy. It does bother me that his salary has increased dramatically at a time the school's tuition has been out of control. Seems to me one of his primary deliverables ought to be keeping tuition in check; and since he hasn't done that, he doesn't deserve to have a dramatic raise as a reward. He obviously has a multitude of responsibilities, but keeping tuition down to ensure a good applicant pool strikes me as one of the most important.
And this is an interesting statistic (from the MN Daily):
College of Veterinary Medicine, 71 faculty, $119,678
College of Pharmacy, 84 faculty, $109,743
Medical School, 920 faculty, $96,375
Avg CVM faculty salary is more than $20k/yr higher than the medical school, and $10k/yr higher than the Pharm school. Why do our faculty cost so much more?
It boils down to a lot more than salaries, obviously. But those are some interesting numbers that make you wonder what the heck is up.
One nice thing is that UMN has steadily invested reasonable amounts of money into their facilities. They haven't whomped millions into some unnecessary new building recently - but they've gutted and refurbished an old wooden study carrel room into a modern group learning environment ... renovated one of (or both?) the first/second-yr classrooms ... remodeled student surgery with new tables, lighting, and an overhead camera at the demonstration table that projects onto drop-down ceiling monitors ... things that in the big picture aren't huge expenses but go a ways into making life better for students and faculty. I appreciate that approach. The anatomy lab is straight out of the 50's - I wouldn't be surprised if that gets attention in the next 5 years. I dunno. But they do chop away with manageable projects regularly, and I admire that.
But the tuition problem needs to be fixed, and it's going to take help from the greater university.
And the concept of graduates donating to help fund scholarships .... that's going to get worse, not better. The more debt-ridden your graduates, the less they're going to be able to give back to help the next generation.
why do people decline their IS admission? It seems unlikely to me that 20 people would decline IS tuition.
