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No thoughts about AM, but I am going to Lynch Johnnaboo because in my experience noob wolves tend to be very vocal about their "lists of who is sketch and who isn't" as a way to try to cover.
FWIW, I did a list of reads early on in the Michigan WW. Was a villager.
I'm still looking at Snowy. She seems hedgier than usual.
In my (limited) experience, Snowy has always been hedgy.
 
Anything you'd like me to clarify?
Yes!
So I'm going to do a few reads since it was pointed out that I haven't contributed much. Sorry guys, I'm still learning.

Bryn: May just be life stuff, but it's kinda odd that she hasn't said much today. Yesterday there was a lot of chatter from her, sorta rambly. Will keep an eye on.

Snowy: Snowy always seems to sketch me out in WW. Another person who I notice (in addition to AM) pops in, says a few things, and then disappears. Her move to lynch AM yesterday after I asked her to post seemed like she was trying to get on my good side. Sketchy.

Allieh: Doing little to contribute, only really responding when someone says something about her. On my sketch list.

In my (limited) experience, Snowy has always been hedgy.
What made you change your mind on Snowy? You pointed out Snowy as sketchy, then offered up a sort-of soft vouch that her behavior is within her meta, and I'm not seeing any activity by Snowy in between those two different statements.

And do you have any reads on someone who's actually posting today? So far, it sounds like you just suspect the quiet people.
 
Coop is the one I was discussing with when this started.


Ohhhh. I get it now. I wasn’t so much going after who you were choosing to look at but rather what you said in response to when someone asked seriously that caught me.
 
Bryn: May just be life stuff, but it's kinda odd that she hasn't said much today. Yesterday there was a lot of chatter from her, sorta rambly. Will keep an eye on.
Just got back home so there will be more posts to follow. I have only played one other game with Snowy and she got called out for being hedgy in that one as well, not sure if that's her meta or not, but seems roughly consistent with last game.
 
Is there anyone who has played a lot with AM, and can talk about her meta? She has been more present today and certainly seems more like the "herself" people talked about in the last game, so I'm going to jump on her lynch yet.
 
I'd love if you could contribute literally anything besides random baseless accusations. I'm still feeling out today before I make any decisions.

Lynch AM

been rubbing me the wrong way all game
I'm sorry that in real life you are going through some rough times. Would you mind explaining what about AM rubbed you the wrong way? D1 is difficult to get reads on people, but what do you think of how she is playing today?
 
I'm sorry that in real life you are going through some rough times. Would you mind explaining what about AM rubbed you the wrong way? D1 is difficult to get reads on people, but what do you think of how she is playing today?
AM is unusually assertive this game compared to when I'd played with her in the past, but that's just my take
 
All of page 3 is where the insanity begins.

Kara called out YK for saying hi, ghosting, and not AM for same. Kara says but AM put in a vote. YK points out that an *hour* had gone by.
YK's response to this pressure was so noob it hurts. That means it's just so confused all I can read it as "does not compute" when trying to decide if noob villager vs noob wolf. Too noob to compute.

Johnna pops in on AM on tails of this.

YK pops on Brindi - again, so noob it hurts. Vote justified by no comprehension of RNG of roles. Does not compute. Overjustification as I think MJ or Haxx suggested? Dunno.

Then Brindi gets on Stella, and had her facts wrong.

With how Mel flipped village, I am revisiting his thoughts. Didn't like Kara or LIS' logic at that point..
He thought Coop vs Brindi was v vs v, I leaned village on Coop.

Interestingly, after he addressed those concerns, he called out Allie.

Kara's post, #133, super aggressive overall.

YK came dancing to Kara's tune to put in a lynch vote. "Look guys, you thought me not voting was sketchy, here's a vote!!" Wolves aim to please.

Allie's defense of Brindi was weak, and cast shade on Coopah just for wanting more/better justification of her vote.

This does not read village on village to me.

Conclusions so far:
Not loving the AM lynch.
I have Coop toward village this game, this far.
Allie has shot up on my sketch list.
MA is not far behind.
Johnna and YK - I don't even have a pole for touching that.
YK is starting to remind me of frustrated nooby villager me, but the way her and Kara are interacting on the thread is wigging me out.
Jboo I could lean either way.
Kara I have more towards village for being aggressive and getting talk going, but I've thought that when she was wolf, too.
Haxx is tightlipped.
MJ - dude, what is going on?
Snowy is hedgy.
 
Day 2 Official Tally of Tallies

allie (1) - Coffee?
AM (4) - Karabou, jboo, coop, kal, MJ
genny (0) - LIS
MJ (1) - allieh
jboo (3) - Haxx, Karabou, genny
snowy (2) - AM, LIS

@Animal Midwife you are winning!

11/16 votes
Deadline 10pm EST


Roll Call: @bryndiana.jones @Crayola227 @Stella Mudd @SnowshoeDog143 @MixedAnimals77

Content Posts:
Animal Midwife - 16
johnnaboo - 10? (do grammar nazi posts count as content?)
bryndiana.jones - 5
youngkal - 20
Coopah - 7
Crayola227 - 8
@Stella Mudd
@SnowshoeDog143
allieh8607 - 7
Mad Jack - 7
LetItSnow - 6
genny - 7
MixedAnimals77 - 3
Karabiner13 - 14
CoffeeQuestionMark - 5
Haxx - 3

AM's Quest for Twenty Question Marks: 14
 
Yes!



What made you change your mind on Snowy? You pointed out Snowy as sketchy, then offered up a sort-of soft vouch that her behavior is within her meta, and I'm not seeing any activity by Snowy in between those two different statements.
I'm not sure how that's changing my mind. It wasn't a soft vouch, it was a "I've noticed that, too." I wanted to see if any veterans agreed or disagreed with that bc I'm not sure if that's just my experience with Snowy or it's everyone's.

And do you have any reads on someone who's actually posting today? So far, it sounds like you just suspect the quiet people.
Sure thing.

LIS hasn't talked much strategy-wise today so I'd like to hear from him. It's been mostly grump-talk or poking fun at someone.

Cray is showing some restraint in posts which is kinda odd. But also during Michigan, she was lynched for rambling and being a distraction. Cray flipped village. Not sure if the restraint is genuine or OOC.

AM is leaning more village today to me (20 Q's), but not enough to convince me to unlynch just yet.
 
sorry guys. I'm uber busy today and don't really have time to do more then skim the thread. If WZ can find me a sub, great. Otherwise I'll just try my best, but it's going to not be great.

With that said, I still have slight feels for AM, but she's being talkative and questioning people so less so today. Could still see bryndy as a wolf and maybe johnaboo. Genny, YK, LIS, and cray are seeming village-ish from my quick skim through.
 
So Snowy might be subbed out, Stella may very well be modkilled today, and I'm not feeling the AM lynch. Mixy somehow seems a bit off from the other times I have played with her. I'm having a hard time pin pointing what exactly is different, but there may be something there. Will be going back to reread once more focusing on Mixy and Jboo to see if I can pick up on anything.
 
So these are all of Jboo's posts since night close last night, the bolded being what I interpret as analytical or "helpful".

Lynch AM

I’m sticking with this for now. AM hasn’t done much except call out other people. Which is fine, but calling people out this early and with higher frequency than I’m used to from her is setting off my feelers.

@johnnaboo Do you still feel like AM would be a good lynch choice today?

From what I remember from Michigan, AM kinda popped in periodically to ask questions and put pressure on people. Not often, though. But for a long time I forgot she was playing. Hence my reasoning—she’s been much more present.

And I agree with you about reads. I meant that she’s been throwing shade but not really pressuring people.

Besides that, I agree that allieh’s lurking yesterday was weird. But I also agree with Coffee’s point about Jones. She’s been posting a bit but it kinda seems like hypothetical pondering and less helpful analysis. Pulling a Cray, maybe? 😉 From my playing with her in the noob game, that’s a bit OOC

Just an FYI, I’ll be back on for my lunch break but I’m going to be MIA until 6pmish EST. Not ghosting, promise.

I'm still going with the theory that no one actually dies. Because that's how SPN works.


Allow me to show you this super outdated infograph from TV Guide


Fair, but also since my plans changed and I started posting, I thought someone was going to call BS on me. While I agree that life posts are not needed, people were pressuring me yesterday because I was gone during the day and I felt like I needed to address it. But it's kind of a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. I won't post any further life updates.

Forgive me for actually listening to advice from veteran players. :meh:


Fair point. Bandwagon wasn't the best word to use. But it was still an odd vote.

Does anyone else have trouble reading people's posts with run-on sentences in them?

I don't mean to be the grammar police, but it's kinda hard to interpret meanings when sentences go on forever without pauses or anything. Maybe it's just me, but I'm having a really hard time reading YK rn.

😆

I deserved that. But I also understood it very well. Idk why I'm having trouble reading YK's posts then.

Mamator! 🙁
I've been skimming throughout the day which is probably why I haven't posted much that's useful. Will try to be better.


Anything you'd like me to clarify?

It wasn't the typo, it was more like "now you know how I'm feeling". Maybe it's just your syntax. Sorry, didn't mean to call you out or anything. I was just trying to see if anyone else was having a hard time reading you or if I'm just crazy. Turns out it's the latter. My b.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. Mixey at first was like "ok, jboo is clear in my mind" and then later said "jboo is still sketchy". AM was the first to point that out, which to be fair could be a wolf trying to misdirect (what I'm leaning toward), but it's definitely worth airing out on thread. I noticed it obviously bc said discussion was about me.

So I'm going to do a few reads since it was pointed out that I haven't contributed much. Sorry guys, I'm still learning.

Bryn: May just be life stuff, but it's kinda odd that she hasn't said much today. Yesterday there was a lot of chatter from her, sorta rambly. Will keep an eye on.

Snowy: Snowy always seems to sketch me out in WW. Another person who I notice (in addition to AM) pops in, says a few things, and then disappears. Her move to lynch AM yesterday after I asked her to post seemed like she was trying to get on my good side. Sketchy.

Allieh: Doing little to contribute, only really responding when someone says something about her. On my sketch list.

I'm still probably crazy (for thinking that some people are hard to read today), but it's good to know I'm not the only one now!

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Care to elaborate on my supposed sketchiness?

FWIW, I did a list of reads early on in the Michigan WW. Was a villager.

In my (limited) experience, Snowy has always been hedgy.

I'm not sure how that's changing my mind. It wasn't a soft vouch, it was a "I've noticed that, too." I wanted to see if any veterans agreed or disagreed with that bc I'm not sure if that's just my experience with Snowy or it's everyone's.


Sure thing.

LIS hasn't talked much strategy-wise today so I'd like to hear from him. It's been mostly grump-talk or poking fun at someone.

Cray is showing some restraint in posts which is kinda odd. But also during Michigan, she was lynched for rambling and being a distraction. Cray flipped village. Not sure if the restraint is genuine or OOC.

AM is leaning more village today to me (20 Q's), but not enough to convince me to unlynch just yet.
 
And here are Mixy's...same deal with the bolded. After ISOing her posts since night close last night, she seems like herself, just with less posting than we have gotten in the past games.

So I have an early morning and won't be around much tomorrow (12 hours at the human hospital yay). I'll agree the coop, Brandi thing feels villagey but I need to go back if I get a chance and reevaluate that. Stella feels more village to me now swapping her vote as quickly as she did unless coop is wolf and she's a wolf. AM her last few comments are starting to sound more village-will evaluate todays actions based on how that goes. Jboo is still on my sketch kind of for her call out on Snowy since I felt Snowy's AM lynch wasn't 100% baseless because they're fond of AM usually. Would like to hear more from those who were particularly more quite yesterday than others. Current wolf list though there's almost guaranteed a wolf that was voting for Mel or Coop so will evaluate those players when I get a chance tomorrow after work.

Jboo appeased me for the time being when deciding between you and her. It is now later. I called you out for picking easy people to pressure without justifying. Like if you would've named them and been like because I'd like to hear more from them then that would've been fine but you just said who you'd pressure and not why. So yes of course I'd like to hear from those not as involved yesterday=obvious blanket statement. Someone would've called them out later anyway. However I also have a decent base to start narrowing down who might be wolves and now the trick is to decipher the villagers out of that. Also gave my thoughts on some players and why they might be village or why they might be wolf.

The part about coop pointing out Coffee? And their well reasoned thoughts makes Coffee? Pop up on my sketch list a bit. I also they they're well reasoned but this concerns me as maybe they're getting help from wolf pack?Still not a fan of the AM play. Like KB has said it has gotten better but it still feels Wolfy to me.Yes going after her for not being typical but also for the fact she hasn't imo really provided much useful analysis of people. Maybe I'm wrong.Feel like this is a fluffy post... fluffy posts are easy posts for wolves...Explained my one statement and didn't have much more to go off of last night when day started again. If AM isn't wolf then I'm tunneling. If not wolf though then pressuring her to see how her game play progresses through the day. To be clear yet again I said you're responses had satisfied me more than AM for the time being. Time passed and after some rereads and stuff you posted today you're still on my sketch list. Will probably lynch here or AM again today.
 
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Care to elaborate on my supposed sketchiness?
Overall fluff posts for the majority of things. There's a slight arrogance to your play I'm not digging maybe I'm just reading too much into it. I'll come back and give a full response later when I'm home I promise but that won't be til after lynch. So I'm going to go ahead and stick with my initial feels.
###lynch AM###
 
Overall fluff posts for the majority of things. There's a slight arrogance to your play I'm not digging maybe I'm just reading too much into it. I'll come back and give a full response later when I'm home I promise but that won't be til after lynch. So I'm going to go ahead and stick with my initial feels.
###lynch AM###

Still not a fan of you ignoring my questions.
 
Voted bj because she said false things about me. Saw mel or coop wpuld die instead. Why would I want coop the ONLY one not trying to kill me to die instead of mel??

What do you mean the only one not trying to kill you? bryndy was literally the only one voting for you yesterday.
 
^^^Ditto that AM. Really Stella? I was the ONLY one who voted for you yesterday, and you came out swinging when it was only ME. So let's be clear, Coop was not the only one who was not trying to kill you, Cray even vouched for you (kinda) at one point. You are coming off super defensive when one lynch vote isn't something to freak out about, you weren't even close to being the one to go last night. This defensive attitude is something to keep an eye on though...
 
She defended me. I didnt want her to die instead of mel

Yes, but by that logic Mel wasn't trying to kill you either and shouldn't have been voted for. Others will be more likely to defend you if they can see where your thoughts are. Have any today other than Coop?
 
Same deal. AM has been calling people out all day today, and is being much more active than she was yesterday. These were a bit harder to bold because lots were questions, but I tried. Not feeling the lynch on her for today.

Why are they the easiest? Who should I be looking at instead? I don't write novels in my posts.

It's Day 1.

I thought it maybe was mod-flair? Whatever it is simultaneously makes tallying harder and tracking 50x easier.

That's a strange rule to apply to rezzes when they mostly been village as of late. There's a zero percent chance anyways. An open setup is WYSIWYG.

I thought you just said jboo was fine.



Didn't you call me out for this?

Who was Coop defending?

I'm still looking at Snowy. She seems hedgier than usual.



I don't know. I wasn't really feeling a need to switch at the end.

Lynch Snowy


How are you feeling about bryndy now?

What is typically?

Why are you asking for Kara's opinion?

Okay, so I'm not being consistent because Kara might not be consistent? And because I'm asking for your motivation behind this it's sketchy?

You still haven't answered my question.

What is your "watch list" ranking that everyone's on anyway? When did I say you were inconsistent? You're getting really defensive...

Coop is still very neutral to me. I don't understand the "bryndy always reads wolfy" thing. I'm pretty sure they've never even played together.

Haxx doesn't seem any different than the Lounge game right now. Quiet but I like that he's putting out more original content today.

****. You got me.

So me asking you about asking others about something they already clarified on earlier is an issue?

And my question was about how you felt about how I responded to Coop. You then voted for me without a reason.

There must be at least one player you're okay with. It's still early one.


Basically, me questioning you is sketchy, but you can question others and not be sketchy?



What was the reason again?


Is it? I thought she lived longer in the noob game.

I just meant the way it was phrased seemed like you were checking with her first before declaring a stance on it.



> all game
> Day 2
> lynched Mel for shiggles yesterday

Coop is the one I was discussing with when this started.

Yes, but that's why I noted that this game seems more so than her norm.

Is there a reason to assume she won't check in within the next 2 hours?

Still not a fan of you ignoring my questions.
 
@Crayola227 do you have any thoughts between Jboo and AM? I think you and I are the only ones left, and ties aren't typically good for village.
 
I just can't even, right now

lynch Allie

I really don't like the AM lynch. I could see jboo lynch too, but everything feels like a bandwagon right now, so going to go with my gut's number one.
 
So that leaves AM and Jboo at a tie?

lynch Jboo

She had 6/16 posts that contained content, and of those I ISOed today, seems the most sketch.
 
What is the tally?

Last time I tried to break a tie to save who I thought (and was) a villager, I frakking died for my trouble.
 
What is the tally?

Last time I tried to break a tie to save who I thought (and was) a villager, I frakking died for my trouble.
Do tiebreakers get in trouble? I thought tie makers were frowned upon if the result stays a tie?
 
Still not a fan of you ignoring my questions.
Not that it matters anymore but which questions?
Wow. I hope it's not anything I said.
No it's no anything you said. I have IRL stuff happening and will be working alot more starting tomorrow from early morning like it's still dark) until after lynch close so I can't be participatory unfortunately.
 
I'm bitter. I'm mad. People wanted to see me mad in Michigan, well you got it.

I was trying to be helpful and actually learn how to play the game but I get booted so quickly now that I feel like no one wants me to play.

Whatever.

Bye.
 
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