Monster Mash WW - Sign Ups and Game Thread

[vetmedhead]

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can we get a tally, pls?

no

 

[Coopah]

I feel like they are and this statement kinda just rubs me the wrong way.


So the bolded was my initial though but then, really, if they're a wolf I'd think it would be more likely that they'd just ignore it and pretend to have seen nothing or to move their vote to some other villager randomly just to get village cred for attempting to save those guys. Or move to coffee, which seemed to be the logical move to preserve three known villagers. So I'm having a hard time making that a wolf thing, although its possible.

+1 Cray
+1 Snowy/Mel

Also I'm wondering about coffee, I don't see the wolves letting her draw this much attention to herself on thread unless they're all noobs (which is possible, there are many in this game) or unless they're intending.

I'd also love to hear more from stella. I know this has been beat to death but being quiet is a great place for a wolf to hide so the longer she is this quiet and not adding much of value the more likely I am to vote there (so share your thoughts! even if you feel iffy about them. I know it can be intimidating as a noob, I'm still basically a noob too so I feel ya)

+1 Stella

My intent was not to nitpick but your reply to me came off like you were either intentionally twisting my words or just misunderstood me and I didn't want either of those things to happen.

+.5 Cray

Cray I just wanna say I've still got my side eye on you... I can't decide if you abstaining from changing your vote yesterday was truly a flub or was as wolfy as it looked, but for now I'm gonna

lynch coffee

mostly because your defending and retorts to both myself and coop seem genuine and like your normal frustrated village mode in rehab.

-.5 Cray
Ok so my theory is Weim was on to a few wolves so they killed her because she was one of the only talkative people left and hit on a few of them.

Basically I'm thinking our last two wolves are probably Cray, Stella, or Mel/Snowy (possibly MJ?)

Cray because at times she seems like her normal self and then others she's visibly restraining herself and hasn't come up with any of those crazy ass theories. Actually the more I type this, the more I think she's village.

Stella - I think we have one more noob in the wolf pack. Something about the kills just screams inexperienced to me. She hasn't given much more analysis and jumped late on a wolf bandwagon. Looking for village cred. Think I might go here today.

Mel/snowy - I have no idea what to think of that cluster before snowy was subbed. I know she didn't have time to read much but that whole interaction along with the quotes above have me looking at her funny. I don't know what to think of mel. He's played solid besides not being around much which is weird for him, but there's not much going on in general.

MJ - has literally contributed nothing. I love you man, but you are not helping lol.

Unlynch Mel, lynch Stella

 

[Coopah]

no

Pretty please? 😍
We've laughed together 😀 We've mourned together Help a buddy out?

 

[Skimble]

No, I already said that it's perfectly valid to lynch me based off of snowy, but that I'm not going to defend myself against accusations made against someone I replaced.

You're consistently misreading what I've said or purposely trying to make me seem more alarmist than I am. There are two wolves left. I think one of them is you, and that the other is between MJ/Stella. This seems perfectly reasonable.
If you're not going to go back and look at what happened around the Coffee? lynch and refuse to analyze the things I quoted to you yesterday, what more reasoning can I give you about my reads? You've literally just said I'm going to just play the game from scratch.

When I offered to sub in on the meat thread, I made it clear I wasn't going to read back. WZ was ok with that, she said the player I was replacing would hopefully fill me in, but all I got from genny was a "thanks."

I tried to analyze what you posted yesterday, but it made no sense to me because it was missing a lot of context. I'm not intentionally misreading you, but I'm not understanding what you want from me. I can't defend what genny said any more than you can defend what Snowy said, and I've only had about 24 hours now to help form opinions on MY play. It irritated me a lot yesterday when you came at me expecting me to analyze quotes with very little context, someone else even mentioned that what you quoted could be hard to analyze (weim or cray, or both I think).

I do think some of the things you said yesterday made it sound like you thought other people were more likely to be wolfy, yet you were only voting for me and YK, and that seems to be the same issue you had with genny's d1 post/vote, so from my perspective, that makes you look rather wolfy. If there are other reasons for you to think genny was/I am a wolf, then by all means, let me know.

Just a note on MJ; this play is not out of the ordinary for him lately. I wish he would go back to playing the way he used to even though he felt like he often got lynched for it (man, I know those feels). He was a bit chaotic at times, but imho was a fairly good player and contributed nicely to the game.

 

[Crayola227]

+1 Cray
hasn't come up with any of those crazy ass theories. Actually the more I type this, the more I think she's village.

Well, in my defense, I did spend almost a day and page of posting going back to page 1, and combed through 8 pages, quoting and making a giant case that a dead player who flipped villager was a wolf. 😕

 

[Coopah]

Well, in my defense, I did spend almost a day and page of posting going back to page 1, and combed through 8 pages, quoting and making a giant case that a dead player who flipped villager was a wolf. 😕

I was literally dying "SHE'S DEAD CRAY DEAD!!!"

 

[WildZoo]

Is no one around here capable of counting except the mods? Jeez...

 

[Crayola227]

Is no one around here capable of counting except the mods? Jeez...

I'm not, that's one reason I almost died in *yet* another tie I touched....

 

[Coopah]

Is no one around here capable of counting except the mods? Jeez...

I wasn't speciacally asking the mods, can dead @Animal Midwife do it?

 

[Coopah]

I wasn't speciacally asking the mods, can dead @Animal Midwife do it?

Wow that typo tho...

 

[Crayola227]

I was literally dying "SHE'S DEAD CRAY DEAD!!!"

when you were saying that I thought you meant the MA/WM transition, that MA was gone
I totally missed that you meant WM

Subs make it harder. I keep forgetting Snowy's gone, and I keep confusing Mel 1 and SMel

 

[allieh8607]

Coopah grilling BJ for her reasons on the Stella vote read as very village to me. The way Ally defended BJ did not. This is where my Allie suspicion started, and was gestated by Mel 1's calling her out to talk more. Not much to go on, admittedly. Let's continue.

Some people read this as genny throwing shade on Coop for going after BJ for her reasons for her Stella vote. I read it as a good point, however. I'm not sure it affected my view of Coop as much as it struck me as village.

Going back, this is similar to genny's reasoning, and actually reads as village to me from Ally.

I was about to get super pissy about these posts, because you had basically said genny and I did the same thing but my play was sketchy and genny's was a "good point". But seems like you came full circle to the conclusion that we both made the same point and came off as village to you. Honestly this is why I wanted to lynch you the other night. Every single day of this game so far you've said I've been on your wolfy list, and I knew it was because of things from D1, but you repeatedly said you needed to go back and further look into my posts. I just found it a little weird, given the amount that you post, that you still hadn't gone back to further ISO my posts or come up with more reasons that I'm sketchy. But still you loved to mention every day that you thought I was wolfy. I don't know, it just felt weird to me but not sure if it necessarily means you're wolfy because I've liked your play and thoughts otherwise.

 

[WildZoo]

Official Day 6 Whatever Tally

cheez (0) - coop
allie (1) - skimble
cray (1) - Haxx
stella (1) - coop
MJ (1) - Cray

4/8 votes
Deadline is 10pm EST (<3 hours)

Role Call:

8. @Stella Mudd
9. SnowshoeDog143 @Melchizedek
10. @allieh8607
11. @Mad Jack


Content Posts - If you are tagged below you have not yet met the post minimum today
6. Coopah - 7
7. Crayola227 - TNTC
8. @Stella Mudd
9. SnowshoeDog143 Melchizedek - 5
10. @allieh8607 - 1
11. @Mad Jack - 1
13. genny Skimble - 4
17. @Haxx - 2

 

[Crayola227]

I was about to get super pissy about these posts, because you had basically said genny and I did the same thing but my play was sketchy and genny's was a "good point". But seems like you came full circle to the conclusion that we both made the same point and came off as village to you. Honestly this is why I wanted to lynch you the other night. Every single day of this game so far you've said I've been on your wolfy list, and I knew it was because of things from D1, but you repeatedly said you needed to go back and further look into my posts. I just found it a little weird, given the amount that you post, that you still hadn't gone back to further ISO my posts or come up with more reasons that I'm sketchy. But still you loved to mention every day that you thought I was wolfy. I don't know, it just felt weird to me but not sure if it necessarily means you're wolfy because I've liked your play and thoughts otherwise.

I think I've put you in my village pile for now, rereads when you know who is villager can be illuminating sometimes.

And yes, the circular logic sometimes... I don't even know what to call what it does.

I would like to hear more from you, because when you are villager I like your play. Usually the less you say, the more worried I am about you, and the more you say the less. Which seems to be opposite everyone else's typical read but what do I know.

 

[Haxx]

I also would be ok with a Stella lynch simply based on content to this point.

 

[Coopah]

Official Day 6 Whatever Tally

cheez (0) - coop
allie (1) - skimble
cray (1) - Haxx
stella (1) - coop

3/8 votes
Deadline is 10pm EST (<3 hours)

Role Call:

7. @Crayola227
8. @Stella Mudd
9. SnowshoeDog143 @Melchizedek
10. @allieh8607
11. @Mad Jack


Content Posts - If you are tagged below you have not yet met the post minimum today
6. Coopah - 7
7. Crayola227 - TNTC
8. @Stella Mudd
9. SnowshoeDog143 Melchizedek - 5
10. @allieh8607 - 1
11. @Mad Jack - 1
13. genny Skimble - 4
17. @Haxx - 2

😍😍😍😍😍😍

 

[Coopah]

I also would be ok with a Stella lynch simply based on content to this point.

Please do, I don't feel cray is supah sketch at this point.

 

[allieh8607]

As an aside, the cray bullying makes me really uncomfortable and needs to stop. I know none of us will like every person's play style but maybe if Cray's style annoys you, find some way within yourself to handle it with a little more kindness. Threatening to put a good player on ignore does nothing, and certainly doesn't help find wolves. I personally find one-liner defenses and super snarkyness to be off-putting but I'm not throwing temper tantrums every time it happens. /soapbox

 

[Melchizedek]

Didn't realized my MJ contingency wasn't going to be counted, but I'm okay between an MJ/Stella/Skimble lynch at this point.

Lynch Stella

 

[WildZoo]

Didn't realized my MJ contingency wasn't going to be counted, but I'm okay between an MJ/Stella/Skimble lynch at this point.

Lynch Stella

I'm bad at keeping track of contingencies

 

[Melchizedek]

How come no one seems suspicious of Haxx?

 

[allieh8607]

How come no one seems suspicious of Haxx?

You must have missed it, but before Bryndi went down as our seer, she shared her results. She had previously looked at Haxx and he was a villager. There are no conversions in this game, so he is still 100% villager.

 

[Mad Jack]

Lynch Cray

So I have been reliving one of my prior games where cray totally pulled the wool over my eyes and her play is remarkably similar. She lacks her villager defensiveness as well as her contributions feeling prolific but light.

 

[Mad Jack]

I just want to know why its ok he suspects me over mj, and i don't say much but neither does haxx

So aren't we all the same sketch?

But they are veterans and there has to be a veteran wolf because I am the only noob left and i can't be two wolves.

Unlynch cray, lynch stella

Going with the "doth protest too much" at light aggro strategy on this one. WTF strategy at its finest.

 

[Haxx]

Unlynch Crayola, Lynch Stella.

I mean, it just seems like I have to at this point. Seems super sketchy and is very fixated on this sex joke thing, which is just silly.

 

[Mad Jack]

Reading this stuff it looks like if i post more sex jokes and spn gifs i would live longer. What a crowd
😛

You literally would

 

[allieh8607]

I think I've put you in my village pile for now, rereads when you know who is villager can be illuminating sometimes.

And yes, the circular logic sometimes... I don't even know what to call what it does.

I would like to hear more from you, because when you are villager I like your play. Usually the less you say, the more worried I am about you, and the more you say the less. Which seems to be opposite everyone else's typical read but what do I know.

I'm at a point where I've found the same few people sketchy for the past few days. I agree with those that think MJ/skimble/stella are all eggs that need to be cracked. So my vote will probably go to any of those three that are going down today. Preferably Skimble first; although she hasn't done anything I've found terribly wolfy, I just can't ignore what I felt about genny before she subbed out. Maybe I'm wanting to be hyper vigilant about it because I got burned by FTB/Glamm recently with a sub but out of the three of Skim/MJ/Stella, Skimble is the only one I actually find wolfy. MJ and Stella are just incredibly hard for me to read and their light contribution doesn't help.

 

[Crayola227]

I am the only noob left and i can't be two wolves.

I do giggle at some of this delightful noob logic.

 

[Crayola227]

Lynch Cray

So I have been reliving one of my prior games where cray totally pulled the wool over my eyes and her play is remarkably similar. She lacks her villager defensiveness as well as her contributions feeling prolific but light.

The last two games I played as villager, the more I defended against suspicion, the more entrenched it became, and the sooner I was lynched. I'm trying really really hard not to be as reactive. I think that's partly why I lived longer this time. Buuuuuut then that becomes the reason I'm sketch.

Plus you must have missed the 45 post count tally day when Coopah voted me for the BJ debacle.

 

[Melchizedek]

I do think some of the things you said yesterday made it sound like you thought other people were more likely to be wolfy, yet you were only voting for me and YK, and that seems to be the same issue you had with genny's d1 post/vote, so from my perspective, that makes you look rather wolfy. If there are other reasons for you to think genny was/I am a wolf, then by all means, let me know.

Meant to come back to this. I'm not expecting you to respond or defend to this, I'm just clarifying what my read is based on.

My issue with Genny D1 is that she gave a good reason to think Coops was wolf.
Push came to shove and Coops became a viable lynch candidate. Genny avoided voting for any of the three lynch candidates, but more specifically avoided voting for Coops. If she truly had a wolf-read on Coopah and not just a manufactured one, what was the point of switching to someone who wasn't even in the running to be lynched? Why not vote and potentially put the nail in Coops' coffin?
You're accusing me of doing the same thing. I'm not. I've voiced my wolf reads, tried to drive the lynch on you, and if one of my other wolf reads is on the chopping block, I vote there to secure the lynch. Genny's voting was incongruent with her reads.

 

[Crayola227]

Christ battle of the subs and we got to pick between our quiet crusaders MJ and Stella

 

[Coopah]

Pleas dont lynch me guys.

I think Mj is sketch and his play is like he is not trying very hard. Or a wolf hiding.

I think he shoukd go before me, that makes most sense.

I think it's interesting you only show up when we start to lynch you

 

[Coopah]

Why is Haxx going for me not mj?

Haxx isn't going for you. I am

 

[Coopah]

How come no one seems suspicious of Haxx?

Um because he's been cleared by the village seer. Have you not been paying attention nooblet?

 

[Coopah]

Meant to come back to this. I'm not expecting you to respond or defend to this, I'm just clarifying what my read is based on.

My issue with Genny D1 is that she gave a good reason to think Coops was wolf.
Push came to shove and Coops became a viable lynch candidate. Genny avoided voting for any of the three lynch candidates, but more specifically avoided voting for Coops. If she truly had a wolf-read on Coopah and not just a manufactured one, what was the point of switching to someone who wasn't even in the running to be lynched? Why not vote and potentially put the nail in Coops' coffin?
You're accusing me of doing the same thing. I'm not. I've voiced my wolf reads, tried to drive the lynch on you, and if one of my other wolf reads is on the chopping block, I vote there to secure the lynch. Genny's voting was incongruent with her reads.

Could you quote this for me. I don't this this happened and if it did I'm going to vote there tomorrow

 

[Melchizedek]

I ask why because I dont understand.

I protest because im not a wolf and the reasons to vote me dont make sense.

How is any of that wolfy?

IDK what everyone else's reasons for voting you are, but my working theory right now is that you bandwagoned a late vote on Coffee? with weak as hell reasoning (how would LIS being a Vig be a good reason to follow his opinion that Coffee? was a wolf?) because you are a wolf and you saw she was going down and decided to throw Coffee? under the bus for village cred.

Do you have any defense against that?

 

[Coopah]

Haxx isn't going for you. I am

JK he did vote after all but not at that point

 

[Coopah]

No i am not fixated and it is not silly. More than one person said people stay alive longer if they are entertaining even if they are quiet and mostly make jokes. Sounds like not bad wolf strategy and Im not the only one who thinks so.

Earlier he also asked a lot about the blocker. I didnt say anything didnt want to draw attention and make the blocker give themselves away. Now im worried he will kill the blocker.

So i have reasons.

The blocker is a wolf. The way you are responding right now is like a state of panic. You're getting your facts wrong. MJ was asking if anyone was blocked because a blocker might want to out themselves if it means getting a wolf. While a protector won't because it doesn't give the village any information

 

[Melchizedek]

Could you quote this for me. I don't this this happened and if it did I'm going to vote there tomorrow

Spoiler: Quotes for Coopah

^This strikes me as odd, since bryndy gave a reason in her vote. Not sure whether this was wolfy trying too hard yet.

Pointing out Coops' post about Bryndi potentially having two reasons for her D1 shenanigans

Thoughts so far:
I don't like how Coop is tunneling on Bryndy. Time to switch horses, coop. It's just making you look wolfy.

YK seems to be hanging back and waiting to see how the rest of the group is going to go before making a commitment. Worked for Lawpy, don't think it will work this game. I'd like to see more firm statements of opinion there.

And Snowy... I'm really tempted to vote there, and not just for funsies. AM sounds like typical AM, I don't know what crack Snowy is smoking.

My vote for Mixy started as a joke, but I'm tempted to leave it. She's said a whole lot of nothing in her content posts.

I find it hilarious that you quoted this, and you're listed as having 0 content posts.

unlynch mixy
lynch jboo

Timestamp ~30 mins before lynch close

 

[Coopah]

He didnt vote but he did start bandwagon on me saying he wanted to vote me

No I started the bandwagon, sorry nooblet but this is a question that needs to be answered. I think it's crazy that so many people followed my vote tbh.

 

[Coopah]

+1 Cray
+1 Snowy/Mel

+1 Stella

+.5 Cray

-.5 Cray
Ok so my theory is Weim was on to a few wolves so they killed her because she was one of the only talkative people left and hit on a few of them.

Basically I'm thinking our last two wolves are probably Cray, Stella, or Mel/Snowy (possibly MJ?)

Cray because at times she seems like her normal self and then others she's visibly restraining herself and hasn't come up with any of those crazy ass theories. Actually the more I type this, the more I think she's village.

Stella - I think we have one more noob in the wolf pack. Something about the kills just screams inexperienced to me. She hasn't given much more analysis and jumped late on a wolf bandwagon. Looking for village cred. Think I might go here today.

Mel/snowy - I have no idea what to think of that cluster before snowy was subbed. I know she didn't have time to read much but that whole interaction along with the quotes above have me looking at her funny. I don't know what to think of mel. He's played solid besides not being around much which is weird for him, but there's not much going on in general.

MJ - has literally contributed nothing. I love you man, but you are not helping lol.

Unlynch Mel, lynch Stella

I also would be ok with a Stella lynch simply based on content to this point.

Mine was well before his comment. This tells me that you're not following the thread very well and in the future, you probably should. Hopefully you'll do better next time, hope this helps nooblet, wolf or villager you're still my manatee.

 

[Skimble]

Spoiler: Quotes for Coopah

Pointing out Coops' post about Bryndi potentially having two reasons for her D1 shenanigans

Timestamp ~30 mins before lynch close

Ok, I can't defend genny's actions, nor do I know what was going on in her head, but what you quoted didn't seem near as damning as you made it sound. I can say someone said something that sounds wolfy without necessarily thinking they are wolfy. To me it sounded more like genny was saying "I've got my eye on you" not "I think you are a wolf because x, y, z." I also can't say why she switched to jboo, but it sounds like boo said something that rubbed her the wrong way. It was d1, that kind of stuff happens.

Stella, I'm not sure what is going on with you, but you aren't doing yourself any favors at the moment. I'm kind of curious to see if a big bandwagon forms though.

 

[Melchizedek]

A wolf had kill avoidance. LIS was village vig and wanted coffee dead maybe d1. If LIS tried to kill Coffee and Coffee didn't die, maybe LIS thinks he is that wolf. Then kept trying to get coffee killed so hard. Why not kill him himself I wondered when it came out he was vig? Coffee said maybe the wolves were blocking LIS. So i think LIS tried to kill coffee and couldnt because of wolf blocking. Coffee was trying to look innocent about LIS wanting him dead and coffee surviving even though vig wanted him dead. So he made up story about wolf blocking setting him up, but I thought maybe a lie to explain why the vig wanted him dead so bad and didn't kill him himself, and tried so hard to lynch instead. I wanted to see where LIS suspicion would go.

I always come on late, i think i voted around 6:40, not sure. I wasnt the last person to make votes.

Okay this thought process I actually like. Unlynching while I go double check some LIS posts.

Unlynch Stella

 

[Coopah]

Easier to reply to attacks on me. Otherwise I'm not sure what's going on.

Also for future gaming experience, it may be easier but it's also wolfy af. It screams only protecting yourself. You really need to try to call people out for being sketchy before you're ever brought up. Being uber defensive about one or two votes is also wolfy because it seems as though you've got something to hide. It's ok to be wrong. call out what you think is weird and even if you're wrong about them it's ok, that's the game. I've done it with BJ and Cray this game and I think I was wrong both times. But now I'm calling you out and I don't think I'm wrong on this one.

 

[Coopah]

Why would the wolves tell me to vote that way if it's so suspicious? I voted to kill a wolf.

That is called gaining village cred. Which I think you called me out for last game? So you would know what it is and why you would do it. Coffee was already going down and you just hopped on.

 

[allieh8607]

A wolf had kill avoidance. LIS was village vig and wanted coffee dead maybe d1. If LIS tried to kill Coffee and Coffee didn't die, maybe LIS thinks he is that wolf. Then kept trying to get coffee killed so hard. Why not kill him himself I wondered when it came out he was vig? Coffee said maybe the wolves were blocking LIS. So i think LIS tried to kill coffee and couldnt because of wolf blocking. Coffee was trying to look innocent about LIS wanting him dead and coffee surviving even though vig wanted him dead. So he made up story about wolf blocking setting him up, but I thought maybe a lie to explain why the vig wanted him dead so bad and didn't kill him himself, and tried so hard to lynch instead. I wanted to see where LIS suspicion would go.

I always come on late, i think i voted around 6:40, not sure. I wasnt the last person to make votes.

This post is so different in style from your previous posts that it almost has me wondering if someone typed it for you and you just copied and pasted

 

[Coopah]

A wolf had kill avoidance. LIS was village vig and wanted coffee dead maybe d1. If LIS tried to kill Coffee and Coffee didn't die, maybe LIS thinks he is that wolf. Then kept trying to get coffee killed so hard. Why not kill him himself I wondered when it came out he was vig? Coffee said maybe the wolves were blocking LIS. So i think LIS tried to kill coffee and couldnt because of wolf blocking. Coffee was trying to look innocent about LIS wanting him dead and coffee surviving even though vig wanted him dead. So he made up story about wolf blocking setting him up, but I thought maybe a lie to explain why the vig wanted him dead so bad and didn't kill him himself, and tried so hard to lynch instead. I wanted to see where LIS suspicion would go.

I always come on late, i think i voted around 6:40, not sure. I wasnt the last person to make votes.

Love love love this, but I'm still voting for you. A couple of things:
1.) I'm betting it would have probably been in the write up if that had happened
2.) LIS would have definitely come out and said he tried to kill coffee and coffee didn't die

I like your thought process though

 

[WildZoo]

Official Day 6 Whatever Tally

cheez (0) - coop
allie (1) - skimble
cray (0) - Haxx, MJ
stella (3) - coop, cheez, MJ, Haxx
MJ (2) - Cray, Stella

6/8 votes
Deadline is 10pm EST (<1.5 hours)

Role Call:

10. @allieh8607


Content Posts - If you are tagged below you have not yet met the post minimum today
6. Coopah - 17
7. Crayola227 - TNTC
8. Stella Mudd - 13
9. SnowshoeDog143 Melchizedek - 8
10. allieh8607 - 5
11. Mad Jack - 3
13. genny Skimble - 5
17. Haxx - 4

You've all met the post minimum!

 

[Coopah]

Ok, I can't defend genny's actions, nor do I know what was going on in her head, but what you quoted didn't seem near as damning as you made it sound. I can say someone said something that sounds wolfy without necessarily thinking they are wolfy. To me it sounded more like genny was saying "I've got my eye on you" not "I think you are a wolf because x, y, z." I also can't say why she switched to jboo, but it sounds like boo said something that rubbed her the wrong way. It was d1, that kind of stuff happens.

Stella, I'm not sure what is going on with you, but you aren't doing yourself any favors at the moment. I'm kind of curious to see if a big bandwagon forms though.

Kind of agree with this tbh. Mel especially with that switch of Stella if she flips wolf.

 

[Coopah]

Spoiler: Gifs

Me at Stella:

Stella at everyone else: