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Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
Given how much talking got people mistakenly thinking I was a wolf last time, I'm not sure I want to reveal too much info right now.
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If you somehow know that Beagle is probably a wolf, you would think you'd reveal anything you can to convince everyone else to vote to lynch them. That's the goal, you know. To kill the wolves.
 
sheltermed said:
If you somehow know that Beagle is probably a wolf, you would think you'd reveal anything you can to convince everyone else to vote to lynch them. That's the goal, you know. To kill the wolves.
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I know, but if I reveal too much, the wolves might kill me too. It's a balance.
 
Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
I know, but if I reveal too much, the wolves might kill me too. It's a balance.
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You're supposed to be looking out for the village as a whole. If your dying means killing one of the wolves, you sacrifice yourself for the good of the village. You don't even know for sure that you'd be killed. This game is not about looking out for #1.

edit: especially this early in the game. if we didn't have this many players left I would understand not wanting to sacrifice yourself to maintain village numbers, but right now I think it would be a good sacrifice.
 
sheltermed said:
You're supposed to be looking out for the village as a whole. If your dying means killing one of the wolves, you sacrifice yourself for the good of the village. You don't even know for sure that you'd be killed. This game is not about looking out for #1.
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I'm not, but I can also help a lot more if I'm alive. I'm looking out for everyone, myself included. Without giving too many details, if you are confident enough that pickles is not a wolf, then you should trust who she lynches.
 
sheltermed said:
why should anyone believe this, and how do you know pickles is trustworthy
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I don't for sure. I just had a gut feeling. It was only D1, so I didn't have a lot to go on, but I had to pick someone to trust. I chose pickles. If you have a good feeling about pickles too, then trust who she lynches.
 
picklegurl said:
WRONG! The correct answer would have been a quote from The Office. I must now lynch beagle for your careless mistake.

LYNCH BEAGLE
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This could just be me having played too many logic puzzles as a kid, but I don’t know that I trust this to be a vote based on wolf/villager status.

Pickles asked a cute and seemingly random question. Coffee answered first with “lavender.” Pickled indicated that it was the “wrong answer” and that something in the answer led her to have to vote beagle. Lavender has 7 letters, beagles is 7 players after coffee on the player list.

Pickles, M935, let me know if I’m way off base and need to take off the tinfoil hat.
 
For clarity: basing this on the most recent player list in page 10, not the original player list
 
Dandelion18 said:
This could just be me having played too many logic puzzles as a kid, but I don’t know that I trust this to be a vote based on wolf/villager status.

Pickles asked a cute and seemingly random question. Coffee answered first with “lavender.” Pickled indicated that it was the “wrong answer” and that something in the answer led her to have to vote beagle. Lavender has 7 letters, beagles is 7 players after coffee on the player list.

Pickles, M935, let me know if I’m way off base and need to take off the tinfoil hat.
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Based on what M-numbers has been saying, he's not going to give up much more information, supposedly because he may be wolf killed if he does and also supposedly because his being alive is more helpful to the village than his being dead. Pickles said she will be gone for much of the day. So I'm not sure if you're going to get the type of response you're looking for in a timely fashion. Whatever's going on is weird and I don't like it.
 
unlynch Coffee?
lynch M935

I would recommend placing your lynch vote here if you're interested in hearing why M935 is suggesting that we trust Pickles' lynch.
 
sheltermed said:
These are possibilities but not necessarily true. MPM could have been a mason with someone else or a lover with someone else and either role could explain the "co-dependent buddy" referenced in the n1 writeup, but it could also mean neither. I only say this because we have been thrown some weird things this game, such as our lynchee from last night did not die, and Ski died instead because she was a sacrifice or something, "destined to take his own life rather than spend any more time in this cruel, useless world." I've never experienced the lover role myself, so I can't say for sure that Coffee is correct in that MPM's potential counterpart will soon die. She might have just thrown in the mason/lover info to throw us off track. Or not. Can't say for sure.

I don't know what to make of the transmission either.
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If this is similar to the board game versions of WW, then cupid chooses people to be lovers and those lovers win the game if they survive until the end (if this happens, Cupid also wins, whether the person is alive or not). However, if one lover dies then the counterpart normally immediately dies. However, they may stray from the cupid concept (may have made them lovers themselves?) Or the immediate death thing. Both deviations from the "normal" gameplay in which they're used seems fair. Mainly because that can put a nice twist on things, at least while we are

Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
I don't for sure. I just had a gut feeling. It was only D1, so I didn't have a lot to go on, but I had to pick someone to trust. I chose pickles. If you have a good feeling about pickles too, then trust who she lynches.
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If this is your attempt to getting the masses to follow a vote... not sure it's following through. I understand shelter's hesitation, I share in that. It's been stated earlier in this thread that you can drop hints, but if not as many people are catching on as you need/would like, then it may be for the best to give the obvious answer. Although I'd hate to waste a night, if this lynch went wrong then I think it'd be fairly easy to pick who would be the tops ones to consider lynching for D3.

Dandelion18 said:
This could just be me having played too many logic puzzles as a kid, but I don’t know that I trust this to be a vote based on wolf/villager status.

Pickles asked a cute and seemingly random question. Coffee answered first with “lavender.” Pickled indicated that it was the “wrong answer” and that something in the answer led her to have to vote beagle. Lavender has 7 letters, beagles is 7 players after coffee on the player list.

Pickles, M935, let me know if I’m way off base and need to take off the tinfoil hat.
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Lavender has 8 letters
 
FrostySparrow said:
If this is similar to the board game versions of WW, then cupid chooses people to be lovers and those lovers win the game if they survive until the end (if this happens, Cupid also wins, whether the person is alive or not). However, if one lover dies then the counterpart normally immediately dies. However, they may stray from the cupid concept (may have made them lovers themselves?) Or the immediate death thing. Both deviations from the "normal" gameplay in which they're used seems fair. Mainly because that can put a nice twist on things, at least while we are



If this is your attempt to getting the masses to follow a vote... not sure it's following through. I understand shelter's hesitation, I share in that. It's been stated earlier in this thread that you can drop hints, but if not as many people are catching on as you need/would like, then it may be for the best to give the obvious answer. Although I'd hate to waste a night, if this lynch went wrong then I think it'd be fairly easy to pick who would be the tops ones to consider lynching for D3.



Lavender has 8 letters
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I am dying. Sorry, over caffeinated! Please disregard crazy theory. It just seems weird how Pickles cast her Lynch vote
 
Dandelion18 said:
I am dying. Sorry, over caffeinated! Please disregard crazy theory. It just seems weird how Pickles cast her Lynch vote
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That's okay!! I'm going off of 2 hours sleep, totally understand.. I was actually following and was like "WOW... the thought that went into this!" But then kept coming back to that while I was typing up my response.. the way pickles casted her lynch vote is definitely weird, I'll agree with you on that. I'm hoping some more things come up before the end of D2.
I suppose until someone reveals something a bit more pressing that persuades me to vote otherwise... lynch pickles
Until then.. this seems like a good choice
 
sheltermed said:
I kept spelling it in my head over and over and kept getting 7 letters, so I was gonna be like NO JERK IT'S 7, but then I realized I had been spelling L-A-V-E-N-D-R
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I counted the letter probably a million times! I kept going 2...4.....6.....7... yeah she's right! But then I had to stop and remind myself how to actually do math. 🤣

This was a REALLY good theory though
 
WOW
So much to catch up on!
First impressions: pickles is by far the most consistently sketchy player to me, I'll go collect some quotes and explain why. M935 seems like a big personality to me, I understand why some actions/posts are coming off as sketchy to some people but I'm not there yet. Also can we talk about how he hinted at a night power and didn't die?!?!? And us not lynching the person we were trying to? It would be tempting to lynch killer again and see what happens and maybe give us a better understanding of what exactly is going on with the abilities here...
 
FrostySparrow said:
If this is your attempt to getting the masses to follow a vote... not sure it's following through. I understand shelter's hesitation, I share in that. It's been stated earlier in this thread that you can drop hints, but if not as many people are catching on as you need/would like, then it may be for the best to give the obvious answer. Although I'd hate to waste a night, if this lynch went wrong then I think it'd be fairly easy to pick who would be the tops ones to consider lynching for D3.
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I'm not trying to pressure anyone into doing anything. I am being fully up front. I trusted pickles because I had to pick someone, and she seemed the least sketch to me. I'm not saying you should just trust me, but I am saying that if you don't have a bad feeling about pickles, you should trust who she lynches. But if you don't feel good about it, don't do it. I'm not guaranteeing anything because I can't.

Edit: I made something that I gave to pickles that could let her know if someone was definitely a wolf, but there's a chance she is still lying. Hence me not being 100%.
 
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dude no he literally just edited out the part where he said he had to give pickles the ability to find out whether someone is a wolf
 
click the up arrow on where I quoted "I had to pick someone" and it brings you to the post where it no longer says that

SKETCH AF
 
sheltermed said:
click the up arrow on where I quoted "I had to pick someone" and it brings you to the post where it no longer says that

SKETCH AF
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My 'tor told me that if I don't want to get killed at night, that I shouldn't reveal very much. After I posted that, I thought it was way too much. But yes, that's true.
 
Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
I was trying to keep it on the down low, but since you want it out there, yes. That is true.
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Matthew9Thirtyfive said:
My 'tor told me that if I don't want to get killed at night, that I shouldn't reveal very much. After I posted that, I thought it was way too much. But yes, that's true.
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WildZoo said:
5. You may edit posts in this game, but only for small things (clarifying wording/typos). Do not edit lynch votes. Think before you post.
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so basically m935 is saying that he possessed a seering ability (item?) that he couldn't use himself so he gave it to pickles. he said that then and then figured he was "revealing too much" and edited it out. if anyone is not alarmed by this i'm not sure what you're doing
 
sheltermed said:
so basically m935 is saying that he possessed a seering ability (item?) that he couldn't use himself so he gave it to pickles. he said that then and then figured he was "revealing too much" and edited it out. if anyone is not alarmed by this i'm not sure what you're doing
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You seem to be anchoring onto this really hard. If I could make something for someone to reveal a wolf, why would I give that to someone if I was a wolf? That makes no sense. You are using a really illogical argument here, and it is making me suspicious.
 
Day 2 Time And Relative Dimension In Space Lynch Tally

coffee? () -
shelter (1) - grebes
grebes (2) - dandelion, zigzag
beagles (3) - pickle, dirty thirty, coffee?
Barkley (1) - msu
dirty thirty (1) - shelter
pickles (1) - frosty

9/19 votes
Deadline: 10pm EST (~7.5 hours)

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Unlynch pickles..... lynch beagles

I may be naive, but I'm beginning to seriously doubt there is a head-hunter in here. So, for pickles to *randomly* pick someone seems pretty unlikely. Especially with M-numbers backing her up... which I think would be an obvious give-away for noob players who don't have well adapted survival mechanisms for this game. Because of that, we can be seen as really honest (maybe to the point of a fault where a wolf would want to kill) or being able to get away with wolf behavior based on noobness.
I'm going to hope M-numbers is trustworthy and just exhibits fellow noob behavior. If not, I think it'd be REALLY risky for pickles and him to attempt to get away with this. As for M not being killed despite his claim in D1, since we have senior players here... I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit more leniency because this is a noob game... since in other games noobs get killed off fairly early, this may be a way to not automatically pick off the one who claimed a power.
I could be giving WAY too much credit, but it that's what it turns out to be, then I'll be the first one to vote to lynch pickles or m-number on D3.
 
FrostySparrow said:
Unlynch pickles..... lynch beagles

I may be naive, but I'm beginning to seriously doubt there is a head-hunter in here. So, for pickles to *randomly* pick someone seems pretty unlikely. Especially with M-numbers backing her up... which I think would be an obvious give-away for noob players who don't have well adapted survival mechanisms for this game. Because of that, we can be seen as really honest (maybe to the point of a fault where a wolf would want to kill) or being able to get away with wolf behavior based on noobness.
I'm going to hope M-numbers is trustworthy and just exhibits fellow noob behavior. If not, I think it'd be REALLY risky for pickles and him to attempt to get away with this. As for M not being killed despite his claim in D1, since we have senior players here... I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit more leniency because this is a noob game... since in other games noobs get killed off fairly early, this may be a way to not automatically pick off the one who claimed a power.
I could be giving WAY too much credit, but it that's what it turns out to be, then I'll be the first one to vote to lynch pickles or m-number on D3.
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Plus, when I'm almost certainly murdered tonight, y'all will see lol.
 
so m935 is potentially an item maker. but that could be a cover role. I'm not sure how deep the manators are getting into this. wolves come up with covers once people start to suspect them. I don't think a noob would think of that (maybe they would who knows), but did his manator give him this as a cover? that's what i'm questioning right now.

Barkley13 said:
@sheltermed Who do you think is sketchy besides M935?
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grebes has been weird since yesterday and seems to have lynch voted for me out of retaliation for 1) trying to lynch her yesterday 2) something she claims is meta analysis but we've played literally one game together so I don't really think she can reliably come up with that

Coffee? as well because her and grebes seem to potentially be working together. Coffee tried vouching for grebes when she said that grebes had been her wolf pup and thus she was fairly confident grebes is not a wolf.

pickles too I guess because of today's comments and lynch vote. supposedly m935 gave her an item that would (presumably) seer a person so that she could ascertain whether they are a wolf. if that's true, she's saying she picked beagle to seer and has determined that they are a wolf, or that their affiliation is otherwise non-villager. what are the chances that pickles picked a random person to seer and found a wolf? I am thinking pretty low.

someone is lying somewhere is all I can say for sure
 
Checking-in to this thread:

My general thoughts:

Sheltermed. She has been offering reasoning and thinking out loud about how posters are interacting on this thread. She seems to be actively searching for wolves and has contrbuted many posts to this thread. Lots of conversation between Shelter and M935.

Coffee? She posted a vague comment about mypetmoose based on “a certain posting style” that she noticed in a previous WW game. The comment was vague and did not offer additional detail. It sounded as if Coffee? was thinking out loud. Did the wolves want mypet killed on N1 so that it would appear as if Coffee was trying to get a villager killed, and Coffee? was framed, or was it just another weird twist added by the mods to confuse us in this game? Coffee seems to be actively searching for wolves.

Mypetmoose. Sat on her initial lynch vote for emlady for most of D1 and then switched her vote to grebes near the end of D1. Then, she is killed on N1. Mods identified her as a “villager with a co-dependent buddy” and as a “lover” (and not as a “mason”) at the end of the N1 write-up. With the exception of a few general comments, no one was going hard on mypet on D1. Does that mean that mypet’s “co-dependent buddy” and “lover” is also a confirmed villager? Or can a co-dependent buddy and lover be a wolf (and not a villager) in the game?

ziggyand jazzy. I don’t know if Deck 8 has anything to do with anyone in this game. If M395 has a power that would be useful for the wolves to destroy, it seems feasible that the wolves would want to kill M395. Just don’t know.

Killerleaf. I am baffled that she wasn’t killed on D1 since she was in the lead with 7 lynch votes. Why was she spared and not killed? This is confusing to me. @killerleaf are you able to say anything about D1?

Pickle. Sounds as if she has a post restriction, or has received some type of secret code question or signal from a player, or has been instructed to act in a certain manner by identifying herself as Buddy the Elf. Her question “what’s your favorite color?” seems to have some type of special significance to Coffee? and/or M935. It sounded as if pickle is communicating info about Beagle to Coffee? and/or M935. Leaning neutral on pickle right now - BUT noticing that others have responded to pickle’s posts, (e.g., mutt, Coffee? and M935) and these responses have elicited a series of lynch votes against Beagle from Coffee? and M935 (and the latter claimed to be waiting for some type of secret “response”).

Pickle, Coffee? and M935. Have already cast lynch votes against Beagle, following some posts between pickle “Buddy the Elf” and others on D2. Will be curious if they keep their lynch votes on Beagle because if they still want to lynch Beagle at the end of D2, it would appear as if they have reliable information that Beagle was a wolf *if* Beagle is a wolf in this game.

@Beagle-Brigade. Based on the above, I'd like to hear more from you.

I'm not feeling strongly about anyone right now ... still thinking about everything.
 
Wow lots of things that make me cringe.

Uhm is everyone who voted to lynch killer suddenly wiser and decided not to support that? Not that it was the best option yesterday but I find it odd that you’re all kinda past it. Or at least seem to be past it.
 
FrostySparrow said:
Because of that, we can be seen as really honest (maybe to the point of a fault where a wolf would want to kill) or being able to get away with wolf behavior based on noobness.
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keep in mind that the noobs have mentors that are coaching them to whatever extent
 
Pattern I noticed reading from the begining:
picklegurl said:
Hmmm things to consider, things to consider. Are you playing the noob card? I'll change my vote if you find proof that Killer is the wolf, otherwise, I am now thinking it could be you. I am not sure yet, so convince me otherwise.
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General defensiveness and explaining every action/wanting other's explanations on D1 where you can't do a lot of strategy, it really felt to me like an attempt to point fingers and keep our attention off her

picklegurl said:
Simply because she jumped on the bandwagon. For now, I have no other evidence. I am waiting from M935 to convince me to lynch Killer.
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Lots of other people were bandwagoning at this point, picked one person to single out for it

picklegurl said:
Now I am intrigued, is there something going on with Shelter and M935? Shelter was a little concerned about the reaction between M935 and me. But these posts make me question the Shelter and M935 interactions... Maybe it's a coincidence, maybe it's not.
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Seems defensive to me? Trying to throw suspicion all over the place, even though there were zero votes for her when she posted this

picklegurl said:
WRONG! The correct answer would have been a quote from The Office. I must now lynch beagle for your careless mistake.

LYNCH BEAGLE
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TOTAL 180 in strategy ?!?!? Went from looking at every comment/action/post under a microscope to random riddles...

LYNCH PICKLES
(also The Office and Brooklyn 9-9 are the BEST, looks like I've found my people 😍 )
 
sheltermed said:
so m935 is potentially an item maker. but that could be a cover role. I'm not sure how deep the manators are getting into this. wolves come up with covers once people start to suspect them. I don't think a noob would think of that (maybe they would who knows), but did his manator give him this as a cover? that's what i'm questioning right now.
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Also, I revealed that extremely early before getting yelled at by my manator if you follow the beginning of the thread. It's not likely that I was thinking of a cover that early and revealed it by mistake.
 
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