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[Dandelion18]

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Excited to be down a wolf, but now less confident about who to throw a Lynch vote to. Seeing as how grebes looks to have been a wolf worth defending (potential for extra kill at night) I’m most leaning toward mutt or emlady, who were not on the grebes vote and offered the most plausible alternative to grebes.

I’m not saying the people who voted against grebes are in the clear at all in my mind, just that mutts and emlady are tentatively on my mind.

Gonna re-read this beast of a thread, but for now Lynch mutts.

 

[Dandelion18]

Also makes me more worried about killer, tbh. What kind of leant me toward trusting her more (she didn’t switch her vote to grebes day 1 to preserve herself) now makes me pretty nervous knowing that grebes was a potentially valuable wolf.

 

[muttmanager]

Excited to be down a wolf, but now less confident about who to throw a Lynch vote to. Seeing as how grebes looks to have been a wolf worth defending (potential for extra kill at night) I’m most leaning toward mutt or emlady, who were not on the grebes vote and offered the most plausible alternative to grebes.

I’m not saying the people who voted against grebes are in the clear at all in my mind, just that mutts and emlady are tentatively on my mind.

Gonna re-read this beast of a thread, but for now Lynch mutts.

Grebes isnt the only wolf. Wanting to lynch people with "plausible alternatives" sounds like you want to lynch fellow wolf hunters. That logic doesnt seem to sound

 

[picklegurl]

Killer for avoiding answering questions
Mousse for a certain posting style (I picked it up on her first post)

Grebes was my wolf pup. I feel fairly confident she is not a wolf this time.

Koffee, you were so sure that Grebes was not a wolf and you vouched for Grebes, despite, the fact that a lot of people were suspicious of her even since D1. She gets killed and we now know that she was in fact a wolf.

LYNCH KOFFEE

 

[picklegurl]

Also makes me more worried about killer, tbh. What kind of leant me toward trusting her more (she didn’t switch her vote to grebes day 1 to preserve herself) now makes me pretty nervous knowing that grebes was a potentially valuable wolf.

This is true too. I am currently lynching Koffee (because of the very confident accusations that Grebes was for sure not a wolf, and it turns out she was). I will be keeping this into consideration as well.

 

[vetmedhead]

Day 3 They Shot Who? Lynch Tally
Dirty Thirty (2) - emmy, mutts
emmy (1) - dinamite
Covfefe (1) - shelter, pickles
Mutts (1) - dandy

6/15 voting
Deadline: 10pm EST

 

[killerleaf]

wow, a lot to think about. a lot can happen, apparently, during a quick shopping trip to Target!

 

[killerleaf]

there were some good points made, about matt935 possibly being chaos, (and still alive, even after claiming a power role) and coffee? vouching for grebes, who turns out, was a wolf. but then, how grebes died, during the day...does that mean we have a vigilante/assassin type role? If I remember right, (from reading other games) sometimes they can only kill once...but sometimes, they can do more? like every other day or something?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Now that grebes is proven to be a wolf, I am really suspicious of this being true. Also because she didn't vote for grebes earlier today further backs it up. I'm going to go back through the thread to see if I can find anything else but for now

lynch emmy

I was trying to say I was 99% sure grebes was a wolf and I think Emmy is highly suspect because of her actions.

I'm cured, also

M935 could absolutely be chaos as I am still pretty unsure about that role. But I am pretty sure he isn't a wolf

 

[killerleaf]

Also makes me more worried about killer, tbh. What kind of leant me toward trusting her more (she didn’t switch her vote to grebes day 1 to preserve herself) now makes me pretty nervous knowing that grebes was a potentially valuable wolf.

Dandy, not sure if it will ease your mind or not, but, at the time, I did not realize that switching my vote to grebes would have worked. by the time I did that math, it was too late. (I hate math. math hates me.)

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Lynch Emmy

 

[Barkley13]

Gonna give this a try.. I think I got everything

Day 1 final tally

M935 (3) - z&j, killer, emlady
emlady (1) - MSU
Beagle (1) - Barkley
killer (6) - beagles, dandelion, Dinashadow, mutts, pickles, grebes
shelter () -
pickles () -
Dandelion (1) - Dr. S
Ski (1) - dolphin
Dinashadow (1) - Ski
mpmoose (1) - Coffee?
grebes (5) - Stagg, M935, shelter, mpmoose, FrostySparrow
z&j () -

20/21 votes
Missing: Stella

Day 2 final tally

coffee? () -
shelter () -
grebes (2) - dandelion, zigzag
beagles (11) - pickle, dirty thirty, coffee?, frosty, Stagg, Barkley, dolphin, mutts, MSU, Dr. S
Barkley () -
dirty thirty (4) - shelter, emlady, grebes, Beagles
pickles (1) - Dinashadows, killer

18/19 votes

Edit: fixed killer's vote​

 

[Barkley13]

I was trying to say I was 99% sure grebes was a wolf and I think Emmy is highly suspect because of her actions.

I'm cured, also

M935 could absolutely be chaos as I am still pretty unsure about that role. But I am pretty sure he isn't a wolf

What actions?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

What actions?

I am unsure how to do the multi-quote thing but I can look through and quote them if someone posts how. Mostly seems like she was following everything grebes was doing, hasn't posted that much, was the only person not voting grebes besides grebes

 

[Karabiner13]

I am unsure how to do the multi-quote thing but I can look through and quote them if someone posts how. Mostly seems like she was following everything grebes was doing, hasn't posted that much, was the only person not voting grebes besides grebes

Hit the +quote button for the posts you want to quote. Then ‘insert quotes’

 

[Stagg737]

So I've got a lot to respond to, so I'm going to break it into 2 posts. This one will be answering some mechanics/general gameplay concepts for the noobs. The next one will by my actual comments about this game.

Because I was told about converts. I don't think I was told about poison/takeover like people think now.

So there are some games where actions are performed against players which will limit how they can play or force them to play strangely. A few examples:

Jailor- An ability which basically removes a player for a day or night or both cycles. When a wolf power it can be used to keep someone silent or prevent them from using their ability. When a village power it basically protects that person from being killed or having any other actions taken against them (like being seered or tracked).

Post restrictor- Somehow alters how someone is able to communicate with other players. There's a ton of possibilities for this. Sometimes they can only talk in songs or foreign languages. Sometimes they can only post X times/day. Sometimes they have to write everything backwards, etc. This can be village or wolf, though I've typically seen it as a wolf ability as it's generally a nuisance to village.

Those are the two main ones I can think of. I'm sure there are probably more, but in terms of regular roles that's what I've got. A chaos player also may have an ability that creates problems with communication (thus causing chaos). It's also possible that an item could cause a post restriction. The final aspect is simply some form of game mechanic. Some games have unique aspects which will be related to the theme of the game. For example, in Pokemon trainers could battle each other at night (unless you only had magikarp...) which is something unique to that game. Since this is a space game it is possible that there is a space related mechanic that could cause a player to have a post restriction (alien infection, technology, etc).

Don’t praise fish too much. It’s not good for his health.

But great GIF

Hey! Fish need love too 🙁

Ugh I was just done collecting quotes to analyze FrostySparrow. Lost time 🙁

A neutral role is a type of 3rd party. This may have been explained by your manators already.
Lovers are not a 3rd party role, (it was discussed regarding a board game that they are), and you can see this as villagers get colored green.
Neutral and chaos are the possible 3rd parties. There can still be a chaos in the game. Both 3rd parties have different win conditions likely unrelated to parity. Neutral needs to live to the end of the game in addition to their win conditions and doesn't affect the win ability of village/wolf (i.e. if they kill the neutral party it doesn't benefit them). Chaos is different in that they can 1) win but die (not always) 2) if they win, it may trump a village/wolf win (as what happened when Coffee won as chaos 😏)

I'm sure I'm not explaining to the fullest because the differences confuse me sometimes too.

So chaos and neutral are the two primary third parties that have an impact on the game. However there can also be a Lone Wolf, who is still a wolf but not part of the main pack. This means they aren't part of wolf-chat and may have a separate win condition, but it is typically just parity with the other wolves.

There is also another type of third-party role, the Non-Playable Character or NPC. The NPC role is a player who does not have any win conditions. They cannot win or lose and are simply there to serve some kind of purpose. In last year's noob game, the NPC was St. Nick who was supposed to basically advise and help all the noobs learn to play. Except they all lynched him D1 even after mods suggested they lynch someone else (well done, lol). Another example was in the Smash game where DVMDream was the NPC punching bag who was basically just a distraction. They could not be lynched and basically just acted goofy for the second half of the game (talking in a different language in each post, talking in gifs, etc). Creeped everyone out until we figured out they were the punching bag.

The general consensus on third parties, and general game strategy, is to lynch anything that isn't village. Which is typically a good strategy as most 3rd parties are not helpful to village in the sense that they aren't concerned about hunting wolves.

Yes, I am at beach

I hate you right now...

 

[Barkley13]

Gonna give this a try.. I think I got everything

Day 1 final tally

M935 (3) - z&j, killer, emlady
emlady (1) - MSU
Beagle (1) - Barkley
killer (6) - beagles, dandelion, Dinashadow, mutts, pickles, grebes
shelter () -
pickles () -
Dandelion (1) - Dr. S
Ski (1) - dolphin
Dinashadow (1) - Ski
mpmoose (1) - Coffee?
grebes (5) - Stagg, M935, shelter, mpmoose, FrostySparrow
z&j () -

20/21 votes
Missing: Stella

Day 2 final tally

coffee? () -
shelter () -
grebes (2) - dandelion, zigzag
beagles (11) - pickle, dirty thirty, coffee?, frosty, killer, Stagg, Barkley, dolphin, mutts, MSU, Dr. S
Barkley () -
dirty thirty (4) - shelter, emlady, grebes, Beagles
pickles (1) - Dinashadows

18/19 votes​

I think this made me slightly less suspicious of shelter because she was on grebes day one when it was close to being a tie

Also I don't know how much emlady was following grebes but it does look like she's been stuck on M#

More suspicious of killer for not switching to grebes D1 to try to self prez and make a tie and then jumping on the beagle bandwagon yesterday

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

@picklegurl Did they tell you you couldn't like things while infected? what specifically infected you?

 

[Barkley13]

Lynch killer

for now

 

[killerleaf]

###LYNCH picklegurl and her resident alien###

Ok, so I have been trying to follow all of this on my phone yesterday and this morning, just got to computer. And realized that somehow, my vote was not counted correctly yesterday. PLEASE NOTE I DID NOT VOTE FOR BEAGLE YESTERDAY!!!!!!! I did D1, as a RNG.....but not yesterday. I apologize, I was apparently not really paying attention to the vote tallies. Trying to do this on my phone sucks.

 

[Animal Midwife]

PLEASE NOTE I DID NOT VOTE FOR BEAGLE YESTERDAY!!!!!!!

😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
Apologies. I've been in a bit of a haze and I must have confused your vote somehow.
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

 

[killerleaf]

its ok AM...it is my fault for not catching it...sigh

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

The general consensus on third parties, and general game strategy, is to lynch anything that isn't village. Which is typically a good strategy as most 3rd parties are not helpful to village in the sense that they aren't concerned about hunting wolves.

Your comments here really made me believe M935 is chaos. I DO NOT think he is wolf and so while I do think we should seek out wolves, I think he would also be a viable person to lynch.

 

[Barkley13]

Ok, so I have been trying to follow all of this on my phone yesterday and this morning, just got to computer. And realized that somehow, my vote was not counted correctly yesterday. PLEASE NOTE I DID NOT VOTE FOR BEAGLE YESTERDAY!!!!!!! I did D1, as a RNG.....but not yesterday. I apologize, I was apparently not really paying attention to the vote tallies. Trying to do this on my phone sucks.

I fixed it but I'm keeping my vote the same because this seems a bit defensive after only one vote

 

[Stagg737]

I'm definitely wanting to hear from Pickles and Dirk very soon, hopefully with the post restriction lifted, on what in Adams name happened. Also, I had the opportunity to speak with Dirk yesterday and during this night due to an item I had, very interested in seeing how he plans on using his claimed role power during this N2 and what comes of it (assuming said role power is real and that the wolves let him live).

The fact that FS died and the bolded concerns me significantly.

@Matthew9Thirtyfive , are you still sticking to your previous role claim that you were implying?

I was infected with an alien microbe that made me lose control. I couldn't change my vote, as I was not in control, but I did try to convince others to change their vote.

Were you able to choose your initial vote? What nights have you received items on and when did you use them (if at all?). If you did receive items, what were they supposed to do?

@sheltermed @Stagg737 interested in on your coffee reads

Again, I need to go back and re-read, but today has become far more busy than I thought since my wife decided to take a 5 hour nap instead of a 2 hour one. However, there was a comment or two other than the soft-vouch for grebes that gave me feelz. Not sure what it is, but Coffee is not my immediate concern atm either way.

Does this mean that the contingency vote entered by Stagg last night will not count in the actual lynch vote today (D3)? Mods, do we need any clarification here?

It sounds as if someone has placed a vote restriction on Stagg because they do not want Stagg to cast a lynch vote for M935; and Stagg cannot change the vote restriction, at least, not right now. Hopefully, Stagg may be allowed to say more later on because I'd like to hear what she/he has to say (are you female or male, Stagg?). Right now, I'm looking for any people I can begin to trust in this game.

Correct, my contingency vote is null. I was informed that I am not allowed to vote and that I may not explain why (I am not completely sure myself) though I do believe that either an item or ability was used on me last night which caused this. I was informed that there is nothing I can do to change this, however that there is a way for me to be able to vote later, which means someone has to do something for me to be allowed to vote (though I am not allowed to say what). I believe the message also implies that I cannot vote at all (meaning future days either) until someone does something.

does that mean we have a vigilante/assassin type role?

Very likely. Other than an item or some chaos ability, I'm unaware of any other abilities which would allow a player to be killed mid-cycle without affecting lynch.

I was trying to say I was 99% sure grebes was a wolf and I think Emmy is highly suspect because of her actions.

I'm cured, also

M935 could absolutely be chaos as I am still pretty unsure about that role. But I am pretty sure he isn't a wolf

Why?

 

[Stagg737]

😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
Apologies. I've been in a bit of a haze and I must have confused your vote somehow.
😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

Lynch AM because you're better than that! (and my vote doesn't count anyway 😛)

 

[Dandelion18]

The fact that FS died and the bolded concerns me significantly.

@Matthew9Thirtyfive , are you still sticking to your previous role claim that you were implying?



Were you able to choose your initial vote? What nights have you received items on and when did you use them (if at all?). If you did receive items, what were they supposed to do?



Again, I need to go back and re-read, but today has become far more busy than I thought since my wife decided to take a 5 hour nap instead of a 2 hour one. However, there was a comment or two other than the soft-vouch for grebes that gave me feelz. Not sure what it is, but Coffee is not my immediate concern atm either way.



Correct, my contingency vote is null. I was informed that I am not allowed to vote and that I may not explain why (I am not completely sure myself) though I do believe that either an item or ability was used on me last night which caused this. I was informed that there is nothing I can do to change this, however that there is a way for me to be able to vote later, which means someone has to do something for me to be allowed to vote (though I am not allowed to say what). I believe the message also implies that I cannot vote at all (meaning future days either) until someone does something.



Very likely. Other than an item or some chaos ability, I'm unaware of any other abilities which would allow a player to be killed mid-cycle without affecting lynch.



Why?

So intrigued by the bolded! I love a good puzzle. Next post to follow will have my attempts to crack this!

 

[Dandelion18]

Okay-- Below are my attempts to get Stagg back the ability to vote.

1. Saying his name 3 times: Stagg, Stagg, Stagg

2. Saying his name backwards: ggatS

3. Referring to him by the wrong pronoun: That Stagg, she sure is in a pickle.

4. Lynching Staggs: Unlynch mutts, Lynch Stagg (Sorry, it just seemed like a reasonable thing to try!)

5. Unlynching Staggs: Unlynch Stagg, Lynch mutts

6. Making outrageous claims about Stagg: I saw Stagg riding reindeer around Cancun during last night cycle.

7. Placing Stagg's name in very fashionable font color: Stagg

8. Referring to Stagg by his full username: Stagg737

9. Agreeing with Stagg; He is definitely right about everything.

10. Disagreeing with Stagg: Everything he says is wrong for sure.

Did I do it? Am I close???

 

[killerleaf]

I think this made me slightly less suspicious of shelter because she was on grebes day one when it was close to being a tie

Also I don't know how much emlady was following grebes but it does look like she's been stuck on M#

More suspicious of killer for not switching to grebes D1 to try to self prez and make a tie and then jumping on the beagle bandwagon yesterday

Lynch killer

for now

I fixed it but I'm keeping my vote the same because this seems a bit defensive after only one vote

Barkley.....at first you say you are suspicious of me because of "Jumping on the bandwagon", and then I pointed out that I was NOT on the bandwagon, but now you think that was "a bit defensive"...really???? I was not being defensive, I was trying to set the record straight.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

@Matthew9Thirtyfive , are you still sticking to your previous role claim that you were implying?

Yes. I also have pretty clearly been trying to hunt wolves, so even if I were a third party, I’m clearly on the village side. Would I know if I were a third party?

 

[killerleaf]

Dandy,
maybe if we put his name in cute little emojis..
😛😛😛😛
Stagg737
😎😎😎😎

 

[Barkley13]

Okay-- Below are my attempts to get Stagg back the ability to vote.

1. Saying his name 3 times: Stagg, Stagg, Stagg

2. Saying his name backwards: ggatS

3. Referring to him by the wrong pronoun: That Stagg, she sure is in a pickle.

4. Lynching Staggs: Unlynch mutts, Lynch Stagg (Sorry, it just seemed like a reasonable thing to try!)

5. Unlynching Staggs: Unlynch Stagg, Lynch mutts

6. Making outrageous claims about Stagg: I saw Stagg riding reindeer around Cancun during last night cycle.

7. Placing Stagg's name in very fashionable font color: Stagg

8. Referring to Stagg by his full username: Stagg737

9. Agreeing with Stagg; He is definitely right about everything.

10. Disagreeing with Stagg: Everything he says is wrong for sure.

Did I do it? Am I close???

I wonder if someone has to be voting for him at the end of the day?

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Also, lynch Emmy

Because I’m following soggy’s lead. She was on the money with grebes and I trust that em is suspect too.

 

[Barkley13]

Barkley.....at first you say you are suspicious of me because of "Jumping on the bandwagon", and then I pointed out that I was NOT on the bandwagon, but now you think that was "a bit defensive"...really???? I was not being defensive, I was trying to set the record straight.

I think the all capital letters was a bit defensive yeah

 

[Dandelion18]

I wonder if someone has to be voting for him at the end of the day?

Yikes, I hope not!

 

[killerleaf]

ok. that is not how it was meant......but I can see how it could be taken.

 

[Barkley13]

Grebes is loooking awfully suspicious.
M395 does talk more than necessary...
I agree with @sheltermed we shouldn't waste a good lynching on a bandwagon vote.

UNLYNCH Killer

I had no significant reasoning hadn't been on all day until this evening. Finally caught up on the discussion making me believe there are some very suspicious people out there.

grebes, M395

Grebes is very defensive and trying extremely hard to prove she is innocent.

Seems very wolf like.

Looking back, emlady said grebes was suspicious/wolfy many times but never said why or really pushed it or voted for her (even when it was close D1)

Unlynch killer

Lynch emlady

 

[Stagg737]

@Doctor-S , my preferred gender is #sketchmason

I'm a guy, I really dgaf how people refer to me though. So feel free to refer to me as he, she, they, axolotl, or whatever. Just don't call me fish. Only @kaydubs is allowed to do that.

Okay-- Below are my attempts to get Stagg back the ability to vote.

1. Saying his name 3 times: Stagg, Stagg, Stagg

2. Saying his name backwards: ggatS

3. Referring to him by the wrong pronoun: That Stagg, she sure is in a pickle.

4. Lynching Staggs: Unlynch mutts, Lynch Stagg (Sorry, it just seemed like a reasonable thing to try!)

5. Unlynching Staggs: Unlynch Stagg, Lynch mutts

6. Making outrageous claims about Stagg: I saw Stagg riding reindeer around Cancun during last night cycle.

7. Placing Stagg's name in very fashionable font color: Stagg

8. Referring to Stagg by his full username: Stagg737

9. Agreeing with Stagg; He is definitely right about everything.

10. Disagreeing with Stagg: Everything he says is wrong for sure.

Did I do it? Am I close???

Lol, I don't think so. Though I appreciate the effort.

Yes. I also have pretty clearly been trying to hunt wolves, so even if I were a third party, I’m clearly on the village side. Would I know if I were a third party?

You should, unless the mods are cruel (which I don't think would happen in a noob game).

Yikes, I hope not!

I mean, having a vote on me is nbd as long as no one starts a train. I don't think that would do anything, but if someone wants to try I'm fine with it.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I was given an item that I could use to look into a player and I tried to look into m### and it failed.
I think that’s weird and suspicious.
Lynch m###

@Stagg737 Grebes was coming for m# here. It was a false claim. Why would the wolf try and take down another wolf so early? Grebes was pretending to have a power she didn't have

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I think grebes was trying to use her extra kill on m# here

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

@Matthew9Thirtyfive what was the night action you said you used last night?

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

@Matthew9Thirtyfive what was the night action you said you used last night?

I passed out trying to think of something useful and woke up at 2 am so I just made something to protect myself. Figured not getting killed on N1 was a fluke.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

You should, unless the mods are cruel (which I don't think would happen in a noob game).

Then I don’t think I’m a third party.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Grebes is very defensive and trying extremely hard to prove she is innocent.

Seems very wolf like.

Hmm. I am looking back at messages and it seems Emmy was suspicious of both M# and grebes. It is making me doubt my Lynch a little bit...

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Hmm. I am looking back at messages and it seems Emmy was suspicious of both M# and grebes. It is making me doubt my Lynch a little bit...

What made you so sure grebes was a wolf, and why did you think em is too?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

What made you so sure grebes was a wolf, and why did you think em is too?

It was pretty clear to me either Dandy or Grebes was lying. I believed Grebes to be lying over Dandy, esp since she said the previous day that she was suspicious of Grebes. I believe that at night, this was investigated and dandy confirmed grebe a wolf somehow. Dandy was much more believable to me.

I was initially suspicious of emlady because she seemed to be backing up grebes, and voted against you instead of grebes.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I was much more sure of my grebes Lynch, but wanted to warn suspicions to the group about Emmy in case I was killed

 

[sheltermed]

What's the lynch tally atm?

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[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

It was pretty clear to me either Dandy or Grebes was lying. I believed Grebes to be lying over Dandy, esp since she said the previous day that she was suspicious of Grebes. I believe that at night, this was investigated and dandy confirmed grebe a wolf somehow. Dandy was much more believable to me.

I was initially suspicious of emlady because she seemed to be backing up grebes, and voted against you instead of grebes.

Gotcha. Yeah I’m not sure anymore. I was away from my phone all day, so I’m pretty out of the loop. I only lynched grebes because it seemed pretty obvious that you were trying to telling us they were wolves (grebes and em).

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I was infected with an alien microbe that made me lose control. I couldn't change my vote, as I was not in control, but I did try to convince others to change their vote.

I am suspicious of this now as well. I had this microbe, but I could chose who to Lynch still, and I was able to like posts.