Noobs...in SPAAAAACE - 5th Annual Noob WW Game

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Unofficial Day 5, Part 2 Does Santa Deliver to Spaceships? Lynch Tally
Barkley (4) - dolphin, zigzagoon, DrS, Stagg
MSU (1) - killer
M935 () -
Stagg (4) - M935, MSU, dinamite, Barkley

9/12 voting
Deadline now

tie! 😏 😏

Role Call: emmy, shelter, koffee

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[dolphin106258]

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Unofficial Day 5, Part 2 Does Santa Deliver to Spaceships? Lynch Tally
Barkley (4) - dolphin, zigzagoon, DrS, Stagg
MSU (1) - killer
M935 () -
Stagg (4) - M935, MSU, dinamite, Barkley

9/12 voting
Deadline now

tie! 😏 😏

Role Call: emmy, shelter, koffee

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M### unlynch didn’t count?

 

[Karabiner13]

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unlynch stagg

mod will have to rule on this but likely won't count as it was at deadline

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[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

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mod will have to rule on this but likely won't count as it was at deadline

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Crap. I even posted it before I was done typing because I was afraid I wouldn't make it.

 

[WildZoo]

Lynch closed results pending...what have you all done???

 

[dolphin106258]

Okay guys we talked about ties....

I realize I’m horrible for not being on at close, but (honestly was playing my new Pokémon let’s go game and lost track of time) you can’t just go placing votes and not realizing the possibility of creating ties, especially close to deadline.

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[Stagg737]

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mod will have to rule on this but likely won't count as it was at deadline

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Seriously?

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Okay guys we talked about ties....

I realize I’m horrible for not being on at close, but (honestly was playing my new Pokémon let’s go game and lost track of time) you can’t just go placing votes and not realizing the possibility of creating ties, especially close to deadline.

(This emoji is meant with love)

I didn't think me voting to lynch stagg would cause all those people to jump off MSU and onto him. I threw in the vote with a couple of minutes left when it looked like it was going to be Bark or MSU. I unlynched him to avoid the tie, but apparently I didn't make it.

 

[dolphin106258]

I trust m## as village and all the wolves have gone after him.

Which would make it super dumb for Stagg to do that...

 

[WildZoo]

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Unofficial Day 5, Part 2 Does Santa Deliver to Spaceships? Lynch Tally
Barkley (4) - dolphin, zigzagoon, DrS, Stagg
MSU (1) - killer
M935 () -
Stagg (4) - M935, MSU, dinamite, Barkley

9/12 voting
Deadline now

tie! 😏 😏

Role Call: emmy, shelter, koffee

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This tally is correct. Check your votes!

 

[dolphin106258]

I didn't think me voting to lynch stagg would cause all those people to jump off MSU and onto him. I threw in the vote with a couple of minutes left when it looked like it was going to be Bark or MSU. I unlynched him to avoid the tie, but apparently I didn't make it.

Was less talking to you, more talking to Dina and Barkley. But talking to you all as a whole

 

[Stagg737]

Lynch closed results pending...what have you all done???

SERIOUSLY?

 

[sheltermed]

 

[dolphin106258]

This tally is correct. Check your votes!

RIP

 

[Stagg737]

Lynch everyone in this game.

Because you need to start using your brains and reading instead of using incredibly faulty logic. Especially after a conversion.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Lynch everyone in this game.

Because you need to start using your brains and reading instead of using incredibly faulty logic. Especially after a conversion.

I mean, not that I want you to get lynched, but your logic wasn't that great. But I did see why you got suspicious.

 

[dolphin106258]

Lynch everyone in this game.

Because you need to start using your brains and reading instead of using incredibly faulty logic. Especially after a conversion.

Did I lynch you? No I did not please remove me from everyone. Thank you.

 

[dolphin106258]

I mean, not that I want you to get lynched, but your logic wasn't that great. But I did see why you got suspicious.

What’re you talking about? He pointed out a valid inconsistency that (I know I didn’t notice) most people probably weren’t paying attention to at all. That’s what there is to go of off in this game is posts and analyzing them.

Edit: grammatical error

 

[Barkley13]

Was less talking to you, more talking to Dina and Barkley. But talking to you all as a whole

Mine was self prez

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

What’re you talking about? He pointed out a valid inconsistency that (I know I didn’t notice) most people probably weren’t paying attention to at all. That’s what there is to go of off in this game is posts and analyzing them.

Edit: grammatical error

Except he leapt to a conclusion that wasn't supported by evidence. But sure.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

If you are village barks and Stagg now would be a good time to share info in case you get lynched... unsure of tie details

 

[Stagg737]

Did I lynch you? No I did not please remove me from everyone. Thank you.

Sorry, I'm just pissed about the total lack of logic used in that vote. The whole "the other wolves did it, so this person who is doing it must be a wolf" thought process is terrible. I'm not saying people shouldn't vote to lynch me if they think I'm a wolf, but we need to actually think things through, especially when valid information supported by posts from the person in question are available.

 

[Lawpy]

Lynch closed results pending...what have you all done???

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[Stagg737]

If you are village barks and Stagg now would be a good time to share info in case you get lynched... unsure of tie details

I'm a Welder, I had previously never heard of this role, but I get an item every other night and can use it during that night or the following day (depending on item). N1 I was PM'ing with Dirks and came to the conclusion that he wasn't a wolf, but I questioned him as chaos (edited because I said "has chaos", which is also true). N3 I got an item allowing me to ask the mods 1 question and I asked about chaos. THERE IS A CHAOS ROLE IN THIS GAME. I should get another item tonight, but probably won't now. Good luck village.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Sorry, I'm just pissed about the total lack of logic used in that vote. The whole "the other wolves did it, so this person who is doing it must be a wolf" thought process is terrible. I'm not saying people shouldn't vote to lynch me if they think I'm a wolf, but we need to actually think things through, especially when valid information supported by posts from the person in question are available.

It's terrible now that you were at the end of it. Didn't seem to bother anyone when it got pickles and mutts. As dolphin just posted, we only have posts and the behavior of others to go on. You saw a couple of "inconsistencies" that were easily explained by being a noob and covered your entire body in tin foil to jump to the conclusion that I must be chaos despite having no real evidence.

Sorry you got lynched, but let's not pretend like you're the bastion of logic in this game.

 

[WildZoo]

Day 5

Indecision fell over the gathered space explorers, inhabitants, and interested parties. They could not come to an agreement on what they needed to do, and so they left it to Chance.

Chance, of course, is the guy who rolls the dice on what happens if the mob can't choose a victim. It seems you all got lucky this time. Or did you?

No one has died

Night deadline is 7am EST
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[emlady09]

 

[dolphin106258]

Also, interestingly there was no kill last night, which means the group could have converted someone. Interesting.

Also meant to say something about this there was no night...it was an extended day cycle.

 

[Stagg737]

I'm a Welder, I had previously never heard of this role, but I get an item every other night and can use it during that night or the following day (depending on item). N1 I was PM'ing with Dirks and came to the conclusion that he wasn't a wolf, but I questioned him has chaos. N3 I got an item allowing me to ask the mods 1 question and I asked about chaos. THERE IS A CHAOS ROLE IN THIS GAME. I should get another item tonight, but probably won't now. Good luck village.

Which brings me to my other point which made me suspicious about Dirks. I'd never heard of a welder, but 2 roles which allow items to come into the game is something I haven't encountered. Could he be a village tinkerer? Sure. But in the games I've played there's either a tinkerer or random items being dropped. In this game there's supposedly a tinkerer, a welder, and I believe someone has said they received a random item. Again, there's too many of a certain type of role in this game and it doesn't make sense to me.

 

[dolphin106258]

No one has died

Night deadline is 7am EST

Bless

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Also meant to say something about this there was no night...it was an extended day cycle.

Yes. I thought it was pretty obvious that I meant the last night cycle, since the write-up included no night kill by the wolves.

 

[dolphin106258]

Which brings me to my other point which made me suspicious about Dirks. I'd never heard of a welder, but 2 roles which allow items to come into the game is something I haven't encountered. Could he be a village tinkerer? Sure. But in the games I've played there's either a tinkerer or random items being dropped. In this game there's supposedly a tinkerer, a welder, and I believe someone has said they received a random item. Again, there's too many of a certain type of role in this game and it doesn't make sense to me.

Can you give the items away? Bc I definitely got an item, but I assumed it was random, kinda like the Pokémon in the recent poke game

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Which brings me to my other point which made me suspicious about Dirks. I'd never heard of a welder, but 2 roles which allow items to come into the game is something I haven't encountered. Could he be a village tinkerer? Sure. But in the games I've played there's either a tinkerer or random items being dropped. In this game there's supposedly a tinkerer, a welder, and I believe someone has said they received a random item. Again, there's too many of a certain type of role in this game and it doesn't make sense to me.

So it doesn't make sense to you, because you're basing it on previous games, so I must not be village? That logic makes absolutely no sense. We are on the same team, and you're wasting time trying to convince people I'm chaos. I have literally done nothing but help this team and despite your complete lack of evidence, I would have made a resurrection item to bring you back had you gotten lynched.

 

[dolphin106258]

Yes. I thought it was pretty obvious that I meant the last night cycle, since the write-up included no night kill by the wolves.

I attributed that to pickles dying and she could’ve designated herself to do the killing therefore not being able to carry it out. I’m not sure tho on the order that mods carry out night actions. But I suppose it could also indicate some other mechanic like conversion.

 

[dolphin106258]

So it doesn't make sense to you, because you're basing it on previous games, so I must not be village? That logic makes absolutely no sense. We are on the same team, and you're wasting time trying to convince people I'm chaos. I have literally done nothing but help this team and despite your complete lack of evidence, I would have made a resurrection item to bring you back had you gotten lynched.

I’m definitely not saying Stagg’s mechanic based talk is full proof but it is a logical way some people play. Just bc you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it isn’t a valid line of thought. And how defensive you get about this stuff sends so many weird vibes. Chaos can help the village in games but can keep the village from winning if they leave them alive.

Edit: actually the game I’m thinking of chaos was helpful to wolves and by leaving chaos alive wolves lost I believe, but I’m sure the roles could be reversed for village.

 

[Barkley13]

Which brings me to my other point which made me suspicious about Dirks. I'd never heard of a welder, but 2 roles which allow items to come into the game is something I haven't encountered. Could he be a village tinkerer? Sure. But in the games I've played there's either a tinkerer or random items being dropped. In this game there's supposedly a tinkerer, a welder, and I believe someone has said they received a random item. Again, there's too many of a certain type of role in this game and it doesn't make sense to me.

I received an item at the end of N1 that I could use N2 that allowed me to spy on someone’s role PM but I don’t know where it came from

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I attributed that to pickles dying and she could’ve designated herself to do the killing therefore not being able to carry it out. I’m not sure tho on the order that mods carry out night actions. But I suppose it could also indicate some other mechanic like conversion.

Yeah, I wasn't sure, which is why I didn't say it was definitely that.

 

[dolphin106258]

Mine was self prez

Waited pretty close to self prez?

 

[Barkley13]

Waited pretty close to self prez?

It’s Christmas? I was busy

 

[MSUcvmHOPE]

Wtf, you know if chaos wins it means village loses right? This is incredibly sketchy...

I did not.

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[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I’m definitely not saying Stagg’s mechanic based talk is full proof but it is a logical way some people play. Just bc you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it isn’t a valid line of thought. And how defensive you get about this stuff sends so many weird vibes. Chaos can help the village in games but can keep the village from winning if they leave them alive.

Edit: actually the game I’m thinking of chaos was helpful to wolves and by leaving chaos alive wolves lost I believe, but I’m sure the roles could be reversed for village.

I get defensive about it because I don't like being accused of something that I'm not, particularly when there's no evidence. Present some evidence that I've done anything but help village. I understand his line of thought. It is not valid because there's no evidence for it. It's just frustrating because I've been actively involved in doing literally nothing but hunting and killing wolves.

 

[Barkley13]

Contingency Lynch DocS

She kept pushing my lynch but ignored all my responses and questions to her. I’m suspicious she might be a convert.

 

[Stagg737]

Can you give the items away? Bc I definitely got an item, but I assumed it was random, kinda like the Pokémon in the recent poke game

I was told I would get an item on odd nights and that if I wanted I could try and upgrade it on even numbered nights, but that there would be a chance it would break. I just asked Dubz and she said I could give items I receive away.

 

[Barkley13]

If you are village barks and Stagg now would be a good time to share info in case you get lynched... unsure of tie details

I role revealed earlier in the day and you were the only one that responded to it. My role doesn’t give me a way to get any information other than what I’ve already said. Apparently coffee can give me another shot and if we were sure about another wolf I would gladly use it.

 

[Stagg737]

I did not.

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Did you read either of posts about chaos, neutral, and NPCs by either myself or Coffee? If not you should read them, as they are important for understanding game mechanics.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

@Stagg737
I already made one seer item and can't make another, but I'm making something tonight that should help you trust me finally.

 

[MSUcvmHOPE]

Did you read either of posts about chaos, neutral, and NPCs by either myself or Coffee? If not you should read them, as they are important for understanding game mechanics.

I did, but it has been a while and there is a lot to absorb in this game. Now I'll have to go back and look into those too...(I'm coming off as very dumb. Pains me)
My hope is to just be better for next year's noob game...sigh

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[dolphin106258]

Contingency lynch Dina

 

[MSUcvmHOPE]

Since I'm tired and don't want to look crap up after tonight's "festivities", I'll just put my poss suspects on Dr and Killer atm. Most everyone else has at least felt/been proven more safe. No Lynch votes till I look over this tomorrow and try to find sound reasoning (most likely won't be on till after 7pm)

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Also, interestingly there was no kill last night, which means the group could have converted someone. Interesting.

Why do you think that? The converter had been killed.

Ah, I see your confusion (which is actually my fault). I did not understand that you had to make an item one night and use it the following night. So the first night, I was able to make it and give it to someone, which they could then use the following night (I think). On N2, I made a protection device that I thought I also used that night, but apparently I did not. When I made the kill device, I was told that it takes a whole night cycle to make it, then you could use it the following night.

Basically, I am learning stuff as I go since this is my first game. I initially thought I couldn't use items myself and had to give them away (which was why I gave it to pickles instead of just using it). Then I thought I could use them the same night, which I then found out I couldn't.

So yeah, the confusion is totally understandable. But it's not because I'm chaos, it's because I'm a total noob who didn't read all the rules or any previous games before starting.

unlynch stagg

I would really like some more clarification on what your role is. No offense, but it seems like your interpretation of what you can do, and what you have done has changed a couple times and I am really trying to be more clear on what your role is. Can you clarify with your manator and the mods and be a bit more upfront? Did you protect yourself N2 or no?

For real, we need to actually read posts, because other than Ziggy we are missing some very obvious problems.

I am confused why I am mentioned here. Are you saying I am not missing problems? Or what?

Okay guys we talked about ties....

I realize I’m horrible for not being on at close, but (honestly was playing my new Pokémon let’s go game and lost track of time) you can’t just go placing votes and not realizing the possibility of creating ties, especially close to deadline.

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It was Barkley who made the tie. Even more sus IMO.

So it doesn't make sense to you, because you're basing it on previous games, so I must not be village? That logic makes absolutely no sense. We are on the same team, and you're wasting time trying to convince people I'm chaos. I have literally done nothing but help this team and despite your complete lack of evidence, I would have made a resurrection item to bring you back had you gotten lynched.

Why have you not made a resurrection item for Dandy? That seems like a pretty solid option at this point.


@CoffeeQuestionMark @emlady09 @sheltermed can y'all talk at all? or what is the situation here?