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Okay, well that helps alleviate any concerns about doc and stagg, since they were pro lynching a wolf yesterday.
Yeah, well it definitely isn’t a hard and fast rule. There were only two wolves at the start of that game. But I hadn’t read the N3 writeup yet, but seeing ziggy’s catch from that, my thought is there’s only one. But that is definitely not a 100% certified thing.
 
Yeah, well it definitely isn’t a hard and fast rule. There were only two wolves at the start of that game. But I hadn’t read the N3 writeup yet, but seeing ziggy’s catch from that, my thought is there’s only one. But that is definitely not a 100% certified thing.

Gotcha. It still makes me feel better about doc and stagg. I didn't have any reason to suspect stagg, but doc threw some shade at me even after killing a wolf and not doing anything to negatively affect the village (except for pushing to lynch beagle, but that was explained multiple times and ended up helping us out the alpha, whom I then killed). But since it's not likely she got converted, that makes me less suspicious.
 
Yes so currently I have Barkley and killler more on the ? To wolfy category. More from the fact of me viewing other players as village than them doing something outright wolfy. Obviously conversion muddles this a little so I’m slightly ignoring that for now. I have had you as village, m###, obvs coffee, Dr. S as well, I feel like they’ve had some good thoughts and contributions for the village.
MSU I want to place into my village camp, especially after their recent post. But I just am not sure.
Dina is more of a true question mark for me.

Again I know conversion screws it up. So I’m gonna think of that into everything but these are my reads I’d like to have posted before my microbe fun. Lol

Edited: left out two words

Yep that’s correct!
So I am confused. Do you suspect MSU or no? This seems contradictory...I have never seen you give a clear reason why you suspected MSU in the first place.
 
So I am confused. Do you suspect MSU or no? This seems contradictory...I have never seen you give a clear reason why you suspected MSU in the first place.
She offered up an explanation for why I did the lynching and unlynching, I was trying to say then I could go for mutts or MSU at the time, whichever y’all felt strongest about. Since I wasn’t able to coherently explain any reasons. Those reads were my most updated ones.
 
So I am confused. Do you suspect MSU or no? This seems contradictory...I have never seen you give a clear reason why you suspected MSU in the first place.
also I don’t and at the time didn’t have the strongest reads on MSU so I was more okay with a mutts lynch, hence why that was my first vote, and then I realized to let y’all know I would be willing to lynch MSU I did the lynching and unlynching. Idk hopefully this makes some sense

Edit: for weird formatting/breaking up my post
 
Barkley we haven't heard much opinions from you lately. Any leans/thoughts?

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I am highly suspicious of Barkley for a number of reasons after re-reading some of the thread from yesterday. Waited a while to vote for mutts, changed her vote, then changed it again when it was clear mutts was going down. She wasn't contributing much, just more asking questions of people. She also claimed shelter could talk to mutts, which was untrue and not sure why she said it.

How sure are you that there is a chaos role?
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Trying to throw shade on Dandy for her pretty much saying she was looking at the people she saw as the next most sketchy

Once I got on yesterday and read through posts it actually didn't take me long to look through mutt's posts and think she was suspicious (see above quote) and then I voted to lynch her shortly after. I then changed my vote because I was worried I was trying to see something that wasn't there and because I wanted to trust coffee (confirmed villager) and stagg. I then immediately relynched mutts when I came back on later (I admit it was kinda late though)
I was asking people questions because it's important to keep people talking
When did I claim the bolded?

1. This could be trying to get us to waste a Lynch on pickles
2. no one else questioned this, seems pretty obvious
3. everyone else seemed pretty sure of m# at this point...
4. again, could be trying to indicate she thought it was unlikely they would all vote for killer on the first day, which turned out to be true
5. strategy wise, it wouldn't make sense for them to do it. but they did it. see 4

1. I was honestly curious why people assumed she was alpha wolf when there was another option and I never pushed her relynch or tried to lynch her at all
2. It didn't seem obvious to me since there were other ways coffee could have used her ability (as she said herself)
3. I didn't think there was a general consensus that he was village at that point (didn't some people think he was chaos?) and while everything he has done has been village, I just think it's odd that it's been known that he has an ability since day 1 but he is still alive. I tried to reconcile that by saying that that is probably the wolves trying to throw suspicion on him. I do not believe he is a wolf though (due to his actions and the fact that wolves seem to be trying to get him lynched)
4. I was asking because I wasn't sure how normal that would be, and stagg responded that it wasn't likely so that swayed my voted, but obviously that turned out to be wrong
 
Day 1 final tally

M935 (3) - z&j, killer, emlady
emlady (1) - MSU
Beagle (1) - Barkley
killer (6) - beagles, dandelion, Dinashadow, mutts, pickles, grebes
shelter () -
pickles () -
Dandelion (1) - Dr. S
Ski (1) - dolphin
Dinashadow (1) - Ski
mpmoose
(1) - Coffee?
grebes (5) - Stagg, M935, shelter, mpmoose, FrostySparrow
z&j () -

20/21 votes
Missing: Stella

Day 2 final tally

coffee? () -
shelter () -
grebes (2) - dandelion, zigzag

beagles (11) - pickle, dirty thirty, coffee?, frosty, Stagg, Barkley, dolphin, mutts, MSU, Dr. S
Barkley () -
dirty thirty (4) - shelter, emlady, grebes, Beagles

pickles (1) - Dinashadows, killer

18/19 votes

D3 final tally

Dirty Thirty (1) - mutts
emmy (3) - Barkley, MSU, DrS
Covfefe (3) - shelter, pickles, emmy
Mutts () -
killer () -
Pickles (6) - zigzagoon, dolphin, dinamite, matty, killer, dandy

13/15 voting

Missing: stagg, koffee​

D4 final tally

Mutt (8) - Doc-S, zigzagoon, Matty ice, killer, dolphin, dinamite, coffee?, barkley
Msu (3) - shelter, emmy, mutts
Koffee (1) - pickles
dina (1) - stagg
Matt (1) - MSU

14/14 voting

edit: forgot to label the last one
 
My mentor gave me some great advice in trying to figure out converts and when they could have happened by looking through the write ups/ posts around them. So I'm going to look back through my notes (hopefully sometime this holiday) and see what I can dig up.

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My most current issue right now is that Staggs just said that all vouches are null due to the convert possibility/issue, but was just discussing that there are players currently that they are still comfortable with based on prev seerings/judgements.

When did I say that? I said I'm more comfortable with them now but I'm certainly not comfortable enough to put anyone in my village pile right now.

I was paranoid about it being fake

Why?

Also @Stagg737 are you saying you’re weirded out by events bc you think there are too many seer type things out there? Bc I definitely could see items explaining some of it. Not saying that it your wall of information isn’t helpful. I’m just asking.

I was saying I was weirded out because given the number of vouches and the way they were worded, the most reasonable conclusion is that there were too many people who likely had seer roles. With the new info from EM (which I believe can be trusted about that info), I no longer think that's the case.

He also gave all that seer info but then didn’t think there were other possible explanations for extra info. (Which I’m waiting for an answer from him on the item question).

I did think there were other explanations and I said that in my post. I just thought they were less likely than someone either lying about some aspect of their ability given statements that were made. Given what EM said I think there's an ability or two in play that I haven't seen before and am still trying to figure out what exactly they are.
 
Emmy - day 1 said grebes was suspicious multiple times but never pushed it or tried to lynch her, voted to lynch M# instead. Also voted to lynch him day 2. Also hasn't said very much and done anything to sway me to think she is village. Leaning wolfy on her.

M# - has done a lot to help village and the known wolves have all tried to go after him. I originally thought he would be a good choice for convert since he had been so helpful before but then thought about it timing wise and it doesn't make sense since he killed a wolf just last night and that was after the converter was already dead. Leaning strong village.

Dina - helped drive the mutt lynched yesterday and was questioning and suspicious of pickle the day before. Did try to throw some suspicion on M# a couple times by suggesting he was working with the wolves. Leaning neutral to slightly village.

Ziggy - was suspicious of M# day 1 but that is understandable. Voted grebes day 2 and did her best to communicate that grebes was sketchy day 3 even while infected with the microbe. Also pointed out the inconsistencies in what pickle was saying about the microbe and was also suspicious of mutt at the same time. Leaning strong village.

DocS - writes a lot of summaries about what people have done throughout the day with some views mixed in. Lynched mutt early yesterday and believed Dandy pretty quickly and lynched grebes early. Has been asking questions and trying to figure things out. Village lean.

Shelter - was suspicious of grebes on day 1 and 2. Was also suspicious of coffee and M# for a while. Said something early on about M# sharing all his information and sacrificing himself to kill a wolf. Mostly neutral.

Killer - a lot of her posts are off topic or don't have a lot of substance. Very rarely talks about other people. Leaning wolfy.

Stagg - Has discussed a lot of mechanics which is helpful and did back dina up and help to push the grebes lynch and suggested that people not lynch coffee. Has done some questioning of sketchy people as well. Leaning village.

Dolphin - would like to see more from her. She hasn't done anything that makes me think one way or the other which is weird because most people have. Currently neutral.

MSU - hasn't really posted anything with substance. Looks like the only person she has felt confident about was Coffee, which was wrong. Leaning slightly wolfy.

Coffee - confirmed village today

These are my current thoughts but I am still looking out for any changes in behavior in the last day if we think the conversion happened night 3
 
Does anyone have any thoughts about the green-color and purple-color transmissions and narratives that have been posted in this game? It seems as if the green color text is a reference to villager, and the purple color text is a reference to chaos.

Is there a possibility that a player (who died earlier in the game and seems to have been forgotten) has returned to this game?

For instance, Ski was identified as “Marvin the Paranoid Android.” Ski initiated her own self-destruction on D1. In one of the mod transmissions, we saw a series of visual images showing droids, and the droids did not look friendly.

Would she be able to return as some *thing* different in this game (had a “faulty switch” at the beginning of the game but the faulty component didn’t become fully disabled and has since then been repaired)?
 
So far, 6 players have claimed they were impaired/infected by an "infecting microbe" (we only have 12 players left in the game right now) .

These are the names I have right now (villagers and non-villagers; alive and dead). I have tagged the "alive" players.

1. pickle (dead)
2. grebes (dead)
3. @sheltermed
4. @emlady09
5. @ziggyandjazzy
6. @dolphin106258

1. I'm inclined to wonder if there is a “win condition” in this game that calls for some (or certain) players to be infected, and when that condition is satisfied, the “infector” will win?

2. killerleaf did not die on D1. So, I'm wondering if killer avoided death on D1 because she was immune to a microbe? Any thoughts about this @killerleaf?
 
My leanings and feels right now:

1. Villager.

Coffee (who was mod-confirmed as villager healer on D5).

2. Neutral to Vanilla Feels (could change depending on more info).

Ziggy (posts and feels, actively searching for wolves, contributing to discussion about different players on thread).

killer (3 wolves jumped on the D1 bandwagon to lynch killer and it's unlikely for wolves to want to lynch each other early in the game so it would have been easy to score a village kill right off the bat, although fairly quiet on the thread and doesn't post much since D1).

Matt935 (posts and discussion ... in one discussion with mutts, Matt told mutt that mutt was his first choice; and later Matt lynched pickles to help break a lynch tie between pickles and Coffee).

Dina (postings, and feels).

Shelter (analyzing posts, actively searching for wolves; close connection to emlady).

Emlady (posts and feels, she is shelter’s friend/soulmate, close connection).

Dolphin Say more?

@Stagg737 Would like to hear more if possible (lynched Dina on D5 for reason he preferred to keep private when asked). Posting, reasoning and actively engaged on the thread, looking for wolves, didn't want Coffee lynched.

3. Leaning Non-Villager or some Other Wolfy Role (could change).

MSU ... non-villager or neutral. Seemed to "give-up" easily in lynch voting (D4) because it "didn't seem to matter" to her. Has recently been more active on the thread when prodded by other players; said mentor gave some great advice about trying to figure out converts. Will wait and see. Not really analyzing game play; doesn't seem to be actively searching for wolves. Hoping to hear more from her in this game. If not, will keep on non-villager list. [BTW ... it's okay to feel confused. At one time, the more experienced ww players were noobs themselves. I make plenty of noob mistakes (lots) and want to learn from my mistakes. No worries.]

@Barkley13 Not very active on thread, not actively searching for wolves.; busy irl. Hoping for more discussion from her?
 
INCOMING TRANSMISSION

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Do it
Just because you don’t want
do not have any more
Probably not going to be able to
Don’t forget the last time
Make it work
Let’s do it tomorrow and then she’ll get back there
And I’m not going strong
Just a few hours
Maybe they just have the one
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/END TRANSMISSION
 
My leanings and feels right now

2. Neutral to Vanilla Feels (could change depending on more

Dolphin Say more?

3. Leaning Non-Villager or some Other Wolfy Role (could change).

@Barkley13 Not very active on thread, not actively searching for wolves.; busy irl. Hoping for more discussion from her?

How are these different

Edit: can’t spell
 
INCOMING TRANSMISSION

——————————
Do it
Just because you don’t want
do not have any more
Probably not going to be able to
Don’t forget the last time
Make it work
Let’s do it tomorrow and then she’ll get back there
And I’m not going strong
Just a few hours
Maybe they just have the one
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/END TRANSMISSION

I don’t know what “don’t forget the last time” would be referring to but could “maybe they just have the one” be referring to just one convert?
 
Slightly more experienced players - is there anything like puppets/pupperteers?

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Does anyone have any thoughts about the green-color and purple-color transmissions and narratives that have been posted in this game? It seems as if the green color text is a reference to villager, and the purple color text is a reference to chaos.

Is there a possibility that a player (who died earlier in the game and seems to have been forgotten) has returned to this game?

For instance, Ski was identified as “Marvin the Paranoid Android.” Ski initiated her own self-destruction on D1. In one of the mod transmissions, we saw a series of visual images showing droids, and the droids did not look friendly.

Would she be able to return as some *thing* different in this game (had a “faulty switch” at the beginning of the game but the faulty component didn’t become fully disabled and has since then been repaired)?
I have noticed white, green, purple, and pink now. The colors are throwing me off. I am wondering how much of the transmissions are "mod flare" or whether they are important/how important. I really can't understand them at all....
 
Here is a summary for everyone to see:

1. Dolphin claimed she was first infected by a microbe on D3 (i.e., Saturday).


2. Ziggy asked her to confirm that she was infected, and Dolphin said yes, she had been infected. Before then, ziggy had been the last player who claimed to have been infected by a microbe.

I am suspicious of this now as well. I had this microbe, but I could chose who to Lynch still, and I was able to like posts.

3. On D3, ziggy posted some unintelligible comments and visual images (i.e., Ziggy Marlowe "Everything's Gonna Be Alright"and "Could You Be Loved - which appeared to have been directed to M935, Cops show theme song, Missy Elliot, "Lose Control" song). Everyone can go back and look at those visual images and songs because they're too big to post here.

Grrrr

I love tabby cats but not religion.

Green and white

4. Ziggy had also said she had been undecided about voting [e.g., to lynch mutt (wolf) or emlady on D3] and went back-and-forth on her voting on D3.
I did this yesterday when I was trying to let everyone know to be suspicious of both people.

5. On D4 (i.e., Sunday), Dolphin claimed to be infected and was posting unintelligible comments, and seemed to have a post restriction.

Microbe she is still in the class and I don’t think I can be her
I wish I had more time to do something like this to be sure that the game has been so fun.
Irksome has always happened when we had a little bit more time
Personal and personal experience and the best part about it is that it was just not the way.

5. According to the microbe infection tally I wrote above (see post no. 1575), Dolphin is the most recent player infected by a microbe (she is the 6th player on the list, after ziggy, emlady, shelter, grebes and pickles who have all claimed to have been infected by a microbe).

6. On D5 (Monday), Dolphin wanted to lynch Barkley.

Lynch Barkley

7. ziggy asked Dolphin to answer a question about going back-and-forth on her lynch vote between Barkley and MSU.

So I am confused. Do you suspect MSU or no? This seems contradictory...I have never seen you give a clear reason why you suspected MSU in the first place.

She offered up an explanation for why I did the lynching and unlynching, I was trying to say then I could go for mutts or MSU at the time, whichever y’all felt strongest about. Since I wasn’t able to coherently explain any reasons. Those reads were my most updated ones.

also I don’t and at the time didn’t have the strongest reads on MSU so I was more okay with a mutts lynch, hence why that was my first vote, and then I realized to let y’all know I would be willing to lynch MSU I did the lynching and unlynching. Idk hopefully this makes some sense

8. Since changing her vote to lynch Barkley (and not MSU) on D5, Dolphin has not claimed she has been infected by a microbe or had any post restrictions (maybe she can't come back, or she's busy in real life, don't know and will have to wait to hear from her).

@dolphin106258 hoping you can say more or have some comments/feels?
 
Here is a summary for everyone to see:

1. Dolphin claimed she was first infected by a microbe on D3 (i.e., Saturday).



2. Ziggy asked her to confirm that she was infected, and Dolphin said yes, she had been infected. Before then, ziggy had been the last player who claimed to have been infected by a microbe.



3. On D3, ziggy posted some unintelligible comments and visual images (i.e., Ziggy Marlowe "Everything's Gonna Be Alright"and "Could You Be Loved - which appeared to have been directed to M935, Cops show theme song, Missy Elliot, "Lose Control" song). Everyone can go back and look at those visual images and songs because they're too big to post here.



4. Ziggy had also said she had been undecided about voting [e.g., to lynch mutt (wolf) or emlady on D3] and went back-and-forth on her voting on D3.


5. On D4 (i.e., Sunday), Dolphin claimed to be infected and was posting unintelligible comments, and seemed to have a post restriction.







5. According to the microbe infection tally I wrote above (see post no. 1575), Dolphin is the most recent player infected by a microbe (she is the 6th player on the list, after ziggy, emlady, shelter, grebes and pickles who have all claimed to have been infected by a microbe).

6. On D5 (Monday), Dolphin wanted to lynch Barkley.



7. ziggy asked Dolphin to answer a question about going back-and-forth on her lynch vote between Barkley and MSU.







8. Since changing her vote to lynch Barkley (and not MSU) on D5, Dolphin has not claimed she has been infected by a microbe or had any post restrictions (maybe she can't come back, or she's busy in real life, don't know and will have to wait to hear from her).

@dolphin106258 hoping you can say more or have some comments/feels?

When dolphin was infected with the microbe she was going back and forth between mitts and MSU.
 
I went back and looked at everything.

Here is what I read on the thread:

Lynch mutts
Unlynch mutts
Lynch MSU
Unlynch MSU
Lynch mutts

* When shelter asked Dolphin for clarification, Dolphin seemed to have a post restriction.


* Ziggy mentioned:

I did this yesterday when I was trying to let everyone know to be suspicious of both people.

* On Sunday (i.e., before pickles was NK'd on N4 and M935), Dolphin seemed to have more post restrictions (or is it a microbe infection?) and responded with visual images:


* On Sunday (N4), pickle was NK'd:

Dead is @picklegurl, who was Dark Helmet, an alpha wolf and strongman.
 
Yes so currently I have Barkley and killler more on the ? To wolfy category. More from the fact of me viewing other players as village than them doing something outright wolfy. Obviously conversion muddles this a little so I’m slightly ignoring that for now. I have had you as village, m###, obvs coffee, Dr. S as well, I feel like they’ve had some good thoughts and contributions for the village.

MSU I want to place into my village camp, especially after their recent post. But I just am not sure.

Dina is more of a true question mark for me.

Again I know conversion screws it up. So I’m gonna think of that into everything but these are my reads I’d like to have posted before my microbe fun. Lol

Edited: left out two words

@dolphin106258 said (on D5):

Lynch Barkley

And so has @ziggyandjazzy (on D5):

Lynch Barkley

So, I'm wondering if Dolphin or ziggy (or anyone who votes to lynch Barkley will be microbe-infected or post-restricted)?

[edit: corrected text & punctuation because this post was soooo long]
 
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Would also like to hear from @CoffeeQuestionMark (who the mods have already told us is our village healer) ... and @killerleaf who may be immune to the infecting microbe - only because she stayed alive after being lynched on the very first day cycle?

Just interested in your discussion, leans and feels, if you have any. Thanks.
 
@dolphin106258 said (on D5):



And so has @ziggyandjazzy (on D5):



So, I'm wondering if Dolphin or ziggy (or anyone who votes to lynch Barkley will be microbe-infected or post-restricted)?

[edit: corrected text & punctuation because this post was soooo long]

What? How did you come up with this? MSU voted me days ago (D2?) and she was never infected with the microbe. Also how does this explain how people were getting infected before?
 
What? How did you come up with this? MSU voted me days ago (D2?) and she was never infected with the microbe. Also how does this explain how people were getting infected before?
My reading of posts and discussions.

I don't see any lynch votes for you in the Final Lynch Tally for D2. Do you?

We're now on D5 ... and you've been sorta quiet for most of this game.

Note: you can ask any other player you want to ask about their infections.
 
🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

It's still a day cycle, no need to use contingency

🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
Oh, I see what you mean - thanks. 🙂

I live in the PST time zone ... so I'm 3 hours BEHIND the East Coast.

The lynch closes in the middle of my family’s Christmas dinner (7PM PST/10 PM EST).

I'm leaving soon to drive over to there to join everyone for the rest of Christmas.

Just wanted to say ahead of time and thought I needed to enter a contingency vote. Did not want to be disrespectful to the other players or the mods. Thanks.

[I won’t be able to offer more discussion, posts, leans, feels, etc. before the lynch closes tonight. I know real life is NOT an excuse … I get it … no worries.]
 
I don’t know if I’ll be able to check in later either because I’m on the west coast right now but I have two things to say:

1. I was only going to reveal this is M# failed to kill pickle but I’m the vigilante. I had one shot and I used it to shoot grebes.

2. I think it’s very suspicious that DocS was trying so hard to throw suspicion on me and was ignoring all my questions/everything I said. I think it’s extra weird because she has never pushed a long that hard before. I would look into her as the convert.
 
Just wanted to say ahead of time and thought I needed to enter a contingency vote. Did not want to be disrespectful to the other players or the mods. Thanks.
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Nope! If it’s any time during the “day” it’s just lynch if it’s during the night cycle it’s a contingency for the next day 🙂
Have a good Christmas with your family, Dr S!!! Eat lots of potatoes for me please
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I don’t know if I’ll be able to check in later either because I’m on the west coast right now but I have two things to say:

1. I was only going to reveal this is M# failed to kill pickle but I’m the vigilante. I had one shot and I used it to shoot grebes.

2. I think it’s very suspicious that DocS was trying so hard to throw suspicion on me and was ignoring all my questions/everything I said. I think it’s extra weird because she has never pushed a long that hard before. I would look into her as the convert.
Even if you were the vigilante, you could still be a convert
 
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Nope! If it’s any time during the “day” it’s just lynch if it’s during the night cycle it’s a contingency for the next day 🙂
Have a good Christmas with your family, Dr S!!! Eat lots of potatoes for me please
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Yay potatoes! Eating cheesy potatoes as we speak! Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays all!
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