It's okay, my first game was the same way and I played a pretty big role in losing the game for village using rock solid logic that was based on a foundation of lies and misconceptions (aka me not understanding roles and game mechanics). The best thing to do is to give your opinions/thoughts and if you have questions then ask them openly on thread. Obviously you need to make sure you're not giving "secret" info away, like your role or PRs (power roles) that you're aware of, but hiding too much info usually does not help village. Plus it's a noob game, so now is the time to make mistakes and learn from them. Cuz when you get in the ring with a bunch of manators and experienced players, you're not going to get cut as much slack.
AHHHH!!! Sorry! Completely forgot about them! I'll take my punishment as soon as this games over!
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How do we know this? Did I miss something
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Why do you believe this?
Of course not!
Is it working?
Here's the potential outcomes:
1. Pickles is Alpha and we try and lynch her. She doesn't die. We "wasted" a day lynching a wolf who won't die.
2. Pickles is not Alpha and had a 1x avoidance and we try and lynch her. She is now dead and we caught a wolf.
3. Pickles is Alpha and we try to lynch someone else. We potentially lynch a bunch of villagers or a wolf and do not learn her role.
4. Pickles is not Alpha and we try to lynch someone else. We fail to lynch a wolf and potentially lynch a bunch of villagers and allow her to freely vote and possibly continue to wreak havoc.
A few things to keep in mind. We do NOT know if this is her only ability. Sometimes non-villagers (usually chaos, but sometimes wolves) have more than 1 ability. So if she really only has a 1x avoidance but has another ability, we're allowing wolves to continue to have more night actions. Additionally, we do not know how many other wolves other than her are alive. Are there 3 total? 4? 5? How do we know when she is the last one left? The answer is we don't, and if we think there are more wolves left when she's actually the final one, then we're just lynching villagers.
At this point I'm leaning towards her being alpha, but there are definitely negatives to both leaving her alive (wolves keep an extra vote, she may have another ability, etc) and trying to lynch her (may survive again). So there's food for thougth on that.
And here we have a good example of WIFOM.
Generally speaking it would be pretty dumb for all of the wolves to vote together. While this is a noob game, Mutts and Grebes have played before in their first game with Dandelion and more veteran players were actually pretty impressed by their intuition as noobs. I'm not ruling out that they all voted together D1, but I don't think it's likely.
I actually missed the part about her not know em's affiliation.
In that case this is NOT a hard vouch and is an inappropriate use of the term. This would be a soft vouch, which is when you have enough information that you have put them strongly into your village category but do not have mod confirmation (required for a hard vouch).
This brings me to a question:
@sheltermed , what information do you have that makes you believe em is village? I'm not asking for specifics or to role reveal, but I'm now concerned that you were willing to vouch for her that heavily without 100% knowing she is village.
