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Melchizedek said:
Isn't it a little, idk...too on the nose for my wolfing?
She claimed seer - Pretty good reason to waffle off in any scenario unless there's a counter claim
She "confirmed" my read on ZJ - Fine, I'll admit it, I got pocketed on this one. I was just so ready to lynch someone that I'd been (admittedly) tunneling on.
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The WIFOM I was referring to was the fact that she decided to claim she had seered zig, which was obviously bogus, instead of the person she was already lynching
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Coffee could've claimed seer to try to get the real seer to appear. You're getting no counter claim from me but NICE TRY.
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Who even was talking to you about a counter claim?

WildZoo said:
The WIFOM I was referring to was the fact that she decided to claim she had seered zig, which was obviously bogus, instead of the person she was already lynching
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I honestly didn't think that through. I read Seer, ZJ, Wolf, and saw red.

Also, all of you know that if I was a wolf, I'd drag AM to end game with me, and let her die on her sword defending me. There's just some things that make this game more fun and keeping AM around is one of them regardless of how she's reading me.
 
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The Dead's D5 We're Thawing Out! Lynch Tally

koffee (5) - sporty, dina, zigjaz, mj, SOV
sov (2) - mel, dolphin
dubz () -
skim () -
mel (2) - dubz, Skim
mj (1) - sar

10/14

Deadline 10pm est (~9.5 hours)

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Melchizedek said:
I've never defended another player unless I knew they were lock clear village (besides maybe AM), and I never will. You're doing some impressive mental gymnastics to fit me into your theory.


Cool, Where would you be lynching if not for coffee? Its far enough into the game that we need something from you to analyze you not just votes. Do you have leans/reads for us?




Isn't it a little, idk...too on the nose for my wolfing?
She claimed seer - Pretty good reason to waffle off in any scenario unless there's a counter claim
She "confirmed" my read on ZJ - Fine, I'll admit it, I got pocketed on this one. I was just so ready to lynch someone that I'd been (admittedly) tunneling on.



I was a counterwagon to her the day before yesterday, why wouldn't she vote for me hoping that my wagon would take off? Lord knows enough of you are ready to lynch me at the drop of a hat, and have said so 🙄
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No
 
Skimble said:
Lynch mel

I keep waffling on zig, and lynching Mel gives me some info there as well.
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This sets off alarms for me. The other player that I noticed trying to say that they want to Lynch Mel to learn about Zig was Coffee.
Skim also so far has mainly talked about other games to put sus off her. Need more content but not liking what I feel, and going to look back on how other's have felt on Skim recently.

I'm going to trust other's for the time being and Lynch Coffee in hopes that a second attempt is the correct move at this moment.

Will keep digging.
 
@Melchizedek can you provide some reads besides just SOV? I want to try and trust you but this tunneling isn't helping

Idk why AM was killed last night and not me...

Would like to hear more from @killerleaf and @Crayola227
 
MSUcvmHOPE said:
This sets off alarms for me. The other player that I noticed trying to say that they want to Lynch Mel to learn about Zig was Coffee.
Skim also so far has mainly talked about other games to put sus off her. Need more content but not liking what I feel, and going to look back on how other's have felt on Skim recently.

I'm going to trust other's for the time being and Lynch Coffee in hopes that a second attempt is the correct move at this moment.

Will keep digging.
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How dumb would it be for two wolves to agree on the same point about a villager on thread? Maybe Mel, STL and docE play like that, but I don’t like to take those kinds of risks.

Also, I brought up past games ONCE, and it was only to say that people should look at recent games to evaluate my play, not a game from two years ago when I had more time.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
@Melchizedek can you provide some reads besides just SOV? I want to try and trust you but this tunneling isn't helping

Idk why AM was killed last night and not me...

Would like to hear more from @killerleaf and @Crayola227
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These are all gut reactions from my notes last night because I only woke up two hours ago and haven't had a chance to look back at D1-D4 with the lens of Coffee being a wolf.

ZJ - Was wolf reading her up until the Coffee incident. Still don't know if coffee threw out ZJ's name to get me to vote there and subsequently get others to vote there. OR if coffee was trying to fake clear ZJ. My gut says the former, and I am trying to pull myself of out a potential tunnel here

SOV - I think Coffee was attempting to buy herself some village cred by saying she'd seered a vet, and picked the most veteran player who already had active sympathy points on thread.

Skim - Still have creepy feelings there. Her reads from thursday were pretty safe and hedgy at best.

Sporty - still on my wolf list. She looked like she was around last night, but staying under the radar to see how Coffee's stunt went.

Dolphin - I want to believe village for the way she reacted last night.
 
Skimble said:
How dumb would it be for two wolves to agree on the same point about a villager on thread? Maybe Mel, STL and docE play like that, but I don’t like to take those kinds of risks.

Also, I brought up past games ONCE, and it was only to say that people should look at recent games to evaluate my play, not a game from two years ago when I had more time.
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Chill, I didn't say I was Lynching you. Just sharing thoughts.
I don't know you or your play style, forgive me.
When you have only like 9 posts, 1 post isn't unimportant.
 
unlynch Coffee
lynch Mel

Wish I could make them both die this cycle. :yeahright:

I think a dead wolf Mel would give me more valuable information than a dead wolf Coffee, which is kind of why I'm leaning that way today.... Especially on the off chance we have a true alpha in Coffee. ALSO, presumably, Coffee's ability has been used up (if she was 1x lynch avoidance), so if Mel IS a wolf, it'd be more valuable to try to find a wolf with an active PR. So I would strongly encourage others to be looking here as well...

I will absolutely swing back to Coffee today if it looks like someone other than Mel/Coffee will be lynched by the end of the day. But I feel good about a Mel lynch, so I would like him dead first.
 
SportPonies said:
unlynch Coffee
lynch Mel

Wish I could make them both die this cycle. :yeahright:

I think a dead wolf Mel would give me more valuable information than a dead wolf Coffee, which is kind of why I'm leaning that way today.... Especially on the off chance we have a true alpha in Coffee. ALSO, presumably, Coffee's ability has been used up (if she was 1x lynch avoidance), so if Mel IS a wolf, it'd be more valuable to try to find a wolf with an active PR. So I would strongly encourage others to be looking here as well...

I will absolutely swing back to Coffee today if it looks like someone other than Mel/Coffee will be lynched by the end of the day. But I feel good about a Mel lynch, so I would like him dead first.
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And when I flip village? Have you even mentioned or looked at anyone besides me and coffee?
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
True

If you were voting besides coffee, who would it be, SOV, Skimble, or Mel? Or someone else?
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Idk what to think of Mel. Probably leaning wolfy but all my thoughts and reasoning get WIFOM-y. I haven't played/totted a lot of games with Mel and he has usually died early so I can't read him.

Also can't read Skim and biased because she's my manator and it clouds my judgement a little.

If I had to guess I lean wolf for Mel and lean village for sport and skimble but I'm also caught on what AM said yesterday.

I'd probably lean to vote SOV at this moment. Less wifom behind my reasonings. I didn't like that tie chaos the other night (I need to look back at that now that we know about coffee)

I didn't really like how super defensive dolph got yesterday and then asked to be NK - maybe just salty village

I have no idea on SAR

I need to hear more from some others. Mostly Cray, killer, and MJ (but I'm not holding my breath for that)
 
Dinashadow said:
Idk what to think of Mel. Probably leaning wolfy but all my thoughts and reasoning get WIFOM-y. I haven't played/totted a lot of games with Mel and he has usually died early so I can't read him.

Also can't read Skim and biased because she's my manator and it clouds my judgement a little.

If I had to guess I lean wolf for Mel and lean village for sport and skimble but I'm also caught on what AM said yesterday.

I'd probably lean to vote SOV at this moment. Less wifom behind my reasonings. I didn't like that tie chaos the other night (I need to look back at that now that we know about coffee)

I didn't really like how super defensive dolph got yesterday and then asked to be NK - maybe just salty village

I have no idea on SAR

I need to hear more from some others. Mostly Cray, killer, and MJ (but I'm not holding my breath for that)
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Dolphin being all sketch yesterday kinda made me feel better about SOV since they are PM partners and I couldn't see them both being wolves. What do you think about that?
 
SportPonies said:
unlynch Coffee
lynch Mel

Wish I could make them both die this cycle. :yeahright:

I think a dead wolf Mel would give me more valuable information than a dead wolf Coffee, which is kind of why I'm leaning that way today.... Especially on the off chance we have a true alpha in Coffee. ALSO, presumably, Coffee's ability has been used up (if she was 1x lynch avoidance), so if Mel IS a wolf, it'd be more valuable to try to find a wolf with an active PR. So I would strongly encourage others to be looking here as well...

I will absolutely swing back to Coffee today if it looks like someone other than Mel/Coffee will be lynched by the end of the day. But I feel good about a Mel lynch, so I would like him dead first.
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Like I see what you're saying but I also want coffee to be gone. but don't want to waste another day there if she is alpha so idk
 
Melchizedek said:
Also, all of you know that if I was a wolf, I'd drag AM to end game with me, and let her die on her sword defending me. There's just some things that make this game more fun and keeping AM around is one of them regardless of how she's reading me.
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How would we know that?

In Colorado you killed her as soon as you were converted
In TLM, Meat, and Michigan you died long before endgame

I could be forgetting a game but I have no evidence to show that you actually keep AM alive that long because you don't usually live long enough as a wolf to make that argument :shrug: Sure, I count you out if AM is in the first 2-3 kills, but we're past that.
 
WildZoo said:
How would we know that?

In Colorado you killed her as soon as you were converted
In TLM, Meat, and Michigan you died long before endgame

I could be forgetting a game but I have no evidence to show that you actually keep AM alive that long because you don't usually live long enough as a wolf to make that argument :shrug: Sure, I count you out if AM is in the first 2-3 kills, but we're past that.
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Lol thats true, I killed her as a convert because I knew her head would explode after that strong village bloc we had going in PM's
She was the only person actively defending me. I get much more utility out of her sticking around than I do with her dead.


Alright I see where this is going. None of you are processing what I'm saying, just knee-jerk refuting it.
I'm honestly starting to get frustrated with these games because I either die super early or people get fixated on me being sketchy and then tunnel to make things fit that theory without considering alternatives.

Y'all have my reads, I was back on reading D2, but I don't care at this point.

Lynch Coffee for self-prez and hoping its only a x1 lynch avoidance.

TTFN
 
Melchizedek said:
I'm honestly starting to get frustrated with these games because I either die super early or people get fixated on me being sketchy and then tunnel to make things fit that theory without considering alternatives.
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I don't think you get to say anything about tunnels after yesterday lol
 
just from skimming I can tell you I'm already pretty suspicious of Mel

I'm excited to see SOV playing

I'm considering the scenario where we're dealing with v vs v violence, or v vs w

If SOV is a villager, then everything they are saying about Mel is wolf Mel to a T, and I doubt they had to read my past meta analyses of Mel to pick that up

the only way this theory breaks down is if SOV is a wolf

for now

lynch Mel
 
Skimble said:
How dumb would it be for two wolves to agree on the same point about a villager on thread? Maybe Mel, STL and docE play like that, but I don’t like to take those kinds of risks.

Also, I brought up past games ONCE, and it was only to say that people should look at recent games to evaluate my play, not a game from two years ago when I had more time.
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Also just so you know you said this before coffee did. I didn't say you agreed with her, if that makes you feel better.
 
D5 We're Thawing Out! (Except for Pippy) Lynch Tally

koffeebean? (6) - dina, zigjaz, mj, SOV, MSU, mel
sov (2) - dolphin
dubz () -
skim () -
mel (4) - dubz, Skim, SportySpice, cray
mj (1) - sar
ev er y one (1) - coffeebean

13/14
@CoffeeQuestionMark you are popular!
Missing: @killerleaf

Deadline 10pm est (~6 hours)

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Crayola227 said:
just from skimming I can tell you I'm already pretty suspicious of Mel

I'm excited to see SOV playing

I'm considering the scenario where we're dealing with v vs v violence, or v vs w

If SOV is a villager, then everything they are saying about Mel is wolf Mel to a T, and I doubt they had to read my past meta analyses of Mel to pick that up

the only way this theory breaks down is if SOV is a wolf

for now

lynch Mel
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Can you explain more about wolf Mel vs villager Mel. I think Mel has been off all game, but it seems so extreme I doubt myself. I just don’t see why a wolf would so constantly put themselves so weirdly out there.
 
all..I have asked to be subbed out. family situation that demands my full attention...I am sorry.
 
ziggyandjazzy said:
Dolphin being all sketch yesterday kinda made me feel better about SOV since they are PM partners and I couldn't see them both being wolves. What do you think about that?
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I think it wouldn't make sense if they were both wolves. If one was wolf are you saying you're leaning towards dolph?

killerleaf said:
all..I have asked to be subbed out. family situation that demands my full attention...I am sorry.
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Hope everything is ok!
 
Dinashadow said:
I think it wouldn't make sense if they were both wolves. If one was wolf are you saying you're leaning towards dolph?



Hope everything is ok!
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not sure

hope everything is ok killer!

unlynch coffee
Lynch Mel
 
D5 We're Thawing Out! (Except for Pippy) Lynch Tally

koffeebean? (5) - dina, mj, SOV, MSU, mel
sov (1) - dolphin
dubz () -
skim () -
mel (5) - dubz, Skim, SportySpice, cray, zigjazz
mj (1) - sar
ev er y one (1) - coffeebean

13/14
A tie! :heckyeah:

Missing: killer

Deadline 10pm est (~5 hours)

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Coffee, Mel and Ziggy all bound up in a tie RNG, I’m kinda happy about that. Bc I have literally no idea, like I’m sure there’s a wolf on Coffee’s lynch maybe even both of them, but I doubt that. But like who is it...I really just have too many conflicting thoughts.
 
dolphin106258 said:
Coffee, Mel and Ziggy all bound up in a tie RNG, I’m kinda happy about that. Bc I have literally no idea, like I’m sure there’s a wolf on Coffee’s lynch maybe even both of them, but I doubt that. But like who is it...I really just have too many conflicting thoughts.
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Even though I am on the coffee lynch I agree. The conservative play is to lynch the wolf. If they are alpha you lose nothing, if they die, they were going to die anyway and naive players may give you some cred.

When coffee hopefully dies, I don’t think we can really learn anything.
 
Lynch coffee


But I’m basically gonna go read all of AM’s posts to recalibrate my life bc at the moment I don’t trust anyone else. Even tho she has way too many pages because of those dang lynch tallies.
 
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