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PlasticMan said:
From what I've heard from other med students around the country, if attendance isn't mandatory at their school, almost nobody goes to class during 2nd year. Why is this such a big deal to NYCOM. Nobody goes to class at other schools either unless it's required.
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I think that professors don't like teaching when no one is there. I think that they feel foolish lecturing to ten people in lecture hall meant to hold 300. They also want to feel important, and lecturing to no one takes away from that. I could be wrong just my $0.02
 
It's not like only 10 people from our class showed up for lectures. We were pretty good as a class as a whole I think about showing up. Yes, people showed up late in the morning to lectures but that could have been fixed simply I think by locking the doors for the first lecture at a certain time.

There were generally about 150-200 people per lecture attending. Out of the 250 or so lecture students I'd say that's a pretty good number. The only time those numbers were lower I would say is during a really bad lecturer and frankly, I think that's NYCOM's responsibility to fix. We shouldn't be forced to attend poor lectures when it's a waste of our time.
 
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Anyone else recieve the survey e-mail yesterday? One thing I would have like to see was first year students as part of the tour.
 
Taty said:
Well I'll explain you where I am coming from. Truth is that I bought book First Aid for the USMLE Step 1 2007, there are many things that sound like Chinise to me in this book. I got scared so I just hope that NYCOM will help me to understand those things because now I am kind of lost....
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Hi Taty,

You may already know this, but the key to success, esp for you in DPC, will be to use the review books FOR REVIEW and not for learning. Just be careful not to use the review books to learn, b/c you'll have no context and won't be able to put everything together. I generally try to hit two sources (texts) and then hit up a review book before a group. Sometimes I'll substitute a lecture for a review book, but just be careful that you're not doing your learning out of a review book. And for God's sake, PUT DOWN THE BOOK AND ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR FREEDOM!!
 
nvshelat

I was also admitted to DPC (Yay!)

I just ordered Moore & Dailey Clinical Anatomy. Is that a review book or a real text?

If I did choose to read a little during the summer (just hypothertically), what would you recommend reading?

What is covered in the first few weeks?

Thanks
 
Nelachka said:
nvshelat

I was also admitted to DPC (Yay!)

I just ordered Moore & Dailey Clinical Anatomy. Is that a review book or a real text?

If I did choose to read a little during the summer (just hypothertically), what would you recommend reading?

What is covered in the first few weeks?

Thanks
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Moore and Dalley is a very detailed anatomy text. If you feel forced to read it I would stick to the famous BLUE BOXES which contain the fun side of anatomy: clinical correlations.
 
So far I have :

Moore & Dailey Clinical Anatomy

Lippincott's Illustrated Reviews: Biochemistry

Neuroanatomy Through Clinical Cases (forgot the author but very popular among NYCOM students)🙂 learned it from sdn and bought book which is pretty interesting.

The Principles and Practice of Medicine by Stobo

Guyton Textbook of Medical Physiology-this one reading now.

First Aid for the USMLE Step 1: 2007
I also have BRS Biochem and BRS Microbiology-came for free some kind of promotion...

Anything else I should buy??
I got bonus at work so I decided to spend it by buying books for medical school...🙂🙂🙂
 
Taty said:
So far I have :

Moore & Dailey Clinical Anatomy

Lippincott's Illustrated Reviews: Biochemistry

Neuroanatomy Through Clinical Cases (forgot the author but very popular among NYCOM students)🙂 learned it from sdn and bought book which is pretty interesting.

The Principles and Practice of Medicine [Paperback] by Stobo

Guyton Textbook of Medical Physiology-this one reading now.

First Aid for the USMLE Step 1: 2007
I also have BRS Biochem and BRS Microbiology

Anything else I should buy??
I got bonus at work so I decided to spend it by buying books for medical school...🙂🙂🙂
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A very sturdy kijnaya schkaf. mine broke in the middle of the year. I tried fixing but was too busy with school. It's on my to do list this summer. keep the heavy books on the bottom shelf 😉
 
Kappy1 said:
Anyone else recieve the survey e-mail yesterday? One thing I would have like to see was first year students as part of the tour.
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I got the survey e-mail also. I actually wanted better food for lunch 🙂
 
HunterGatherer said:
A very sturdy kijnaya schkaf. mine broke in the middle of the year. I tried fixing but was too busy with school. It's on my to do list this summer. keep the heavy books on the bottom shelf 😉
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Yea..now u making fun of me hah? 🙂🙂🙂 They are actually on the floor,under my bed 🙂 Temporarely... until I move out. Hopefully I'll move out in the beginning of July🙂
 
HunterGatherer said:
WTF? we did noot get a lunch last year!

At the Open House and at club meetings they like to make wraps. I like those. 😀
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We had sandwiches and wraps. I am vegeterian and my wrap sucked.
 
Hey guys, so i have yet to receive an email account from NYCOM. Should I call the admissions office or is there some tech. dept. responsible for it?
 
kissachka said:
Hey guys, so i have yet to receive an email account from NYCOM. Should I call the admissions office or is there some tech. dept. responsible for it?
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I didn't get one either. Did anyone else get one?
 
Taty said:
We had sandwiches and wraps. I am vegeterian and my wrap sucked.
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I'm guessing this was the one with eggplant in it? Vege wrap = Aweful! :barf:

Get used to the wraps; they're what's given at the majority of school lunches. At our class meetings this year, we usually had pizza, pasta, salad and zeppoles. 😀
 
Taty said:
So far I have :

Moore & Dailey Clinical Anatomy

Lippincott's Illustrated Reviews: Biochemistry

Neuroanatomy Through Clinical Cases (forgot the author but very popular among NYCOM students)🙂 learned it from sdn and bought book which is pretty interesting.

The Principles and Practice of Medicine by Stobo

Guyton Textbook of Medical Physiology-this one reading now.

First Aid for the USMLE Step 1: 2007
I also have BRS Biochem and BRS Microbiology-came for free some kind of promotion...

Anything else I should buy??
I got bonus at work so I decided to spend it by buying books for medical school...🙂🙂🙂
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As HG said, Yukochi anatomy unless you can find a free digital copy floating around.

I like Step-up to the USMLE.

Netter's anatomy flash cards are awesome for when you're working out / cardio; get a few giant keyrings at staples, punch holes into the corner of all your cards for a given section and wallah, instant keyring full of anatomy cards to carry around.

Try to get a copy of the Goljan Pathology MP3s. Listening to these while you're driving, cooking, working out, etc. will help get those important high yield path ideas into your noggin. This is especially helpful for boards. I just got a new phone that can play MP3s on it; perfect to play Goljan Mp3s. 😎

Robbins Pathology; a MUST have IMO. This is my main book that i spend time reading and studying.

Robbins Path review - Questions w/ explanations that correlate with each chapter that you read in Robbins. Another great book that I use to quiz myself with Robbins.
 
PlasticMan said:
As HG said, Yukochi anatomy unless you can find a free digital copy floating around.

I like Step-up to the USMLE.

Netter's anatomy flash cards are awesome for when you're working out / cardio; get a few giant keyrings at staples, punch holes into the corner of all your cards for a given section and wallah, instant keyring full of anatomy cards to carry around.

Try to get a copy of the Goljan Pathology MP3s. Listening to these while you're driving, cooking, working out, etc. will help get those important high yield path ideas into your noggin. This is especially helpful for boards. I just got a new phone that can play MP3s on it; perfect to play Goljan Mp3s. 😎

Robbins Pathology; a MUST have IMO. This is my main book that i spend time reading and studying.

Robbins Path review - Questions w/ explanations that correlate with each chapter that you read in Robbins. Another great book that I use to quiz myself with Robbins.
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Thank you!!! I will order Robbins Pathology books today🙂
 
Kappy1 said:
I didn't get one either. Did anyone else get one?
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I did not get one too. Admissions e-mailed me and told me that my file is not complete because I am missing transcripts...from Ukraine. I e-mailed them back and explained them that it will be very hard to get them because I dont have any relatives there and my calls /e-mails never get answered by university which I attended. I dont have a degree from Ukraine I did not complete pre-med requirements there either. Today they'll decide what I should do hopefully my undegraduate college here will release my ukranian transcripts to NYCOM....Otherwise I dont think that I will be able to gt those transcripts by August. Also AACOMAS waived that transcript requirement to me...
 
COA is pretty detailed and in my opinion, gets annoying at times. I've heard Gray's Anatomy for Students is supposed to be better (not the atlas, the text) and I'm gonna check it out and see how it is. I'll let you guys know if it's worth buying in place of COA - the blue boxes in COA should be in baby COA, the Essential Clinical Anatomy or whatever its called, but I don't know that it is. Dr. Hill said he's heard good things about Grays.

Ooo, a good heads up - go to the allopathic forum and bookmark the link to good basic science websites. In there is a link to Michigan's videos for anatomy, which are great. There are some other great sites in there too.

What the hell is "The Principles and Practice of Medicine"??

Those of you who are going to buy lots of books, look into www.bigwords.com, www.alibris.com... there are others that sell international versions that are exactly the same but much cheaper (and usually paperback). BUT my biochem textbook was supposed to be the same as the US version and all the pictures turned out b/w instead of color. So you might get screwed, but everyones got a return policy.

Enjoy the summer :hardy:
 
littlephiLLy said:
i'm definetely going to nycom!

looking for a place to live.. anyone who has an open room in a house looking to be filled please PM me?
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hi guys
i'm also accepted into 2011 class,and looking for a place near the school ,

i think we should get together and rent a building for the whole class 🙂

looking forward to meet u guys

how about going out one time before school esp. for whom from ny area
 
You guys want to be impressed by NYCOM?? Check out 2007's match list (where the graduating class is going for their residencies). It's posted in the pre-osteo forum under match lists (also on the AT Still site on NYCOM's site but I don't know if you have access to that yet). It's very impressive. NYCOM grads are going to Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins...any amount of worry any of you may have about NYCOM or becoming a DO should be put at rest by that!

It's linked under response #261:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=175626&page=6
 
Taty said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0838579639/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-0134994-7064718#reader-link
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Harrison's is the king of medicine books and it's available online through the library's site. A Baby Harrison's called Cecil's Textbook of Medicine is also available online through the bookstore.

I would strongly advise on holding off on purchasing anymore books until you get to campus. One of my classmates set up a list for you incoming DPCers for the most popular textbooks - so you'll have a comprehensive list of the books you should buy once you have the little big brother/sister meeting @ orientation week. Once you buy these, you probably won't need to buy any for the second year.
 
JasonUD said:
You guys want to be impressed by NYCOM?? Check out 2007's match list (where the graduating class is going for their residencies). It's posted in the pre-osteo forum under match lists (also on the AT Still site on NYCOM's site but I don't know if you have access to that yet). It's very impressive. NYCOM grads are going to Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins...any amount of worry any of you may have about NYCOM or becoming a DO should be put at rest by that!

It's linked under response #261:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=175626&page=6
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I declined MD school acceptance because I kind of liked NYCOM when I had my interview 🙂 So, it was the moment when I put my doubts about being a DO to the rest.
 
nvshelat said:
Harrison's is the king of medicine books and it's available online through the library's site. A Baby Harrison's called Cecil's Textbook of Medicine is also available online through the bookstore.

I would strongly advise on holding off on purchasing anymore books until you get to campus. One of my classmates set up a list for you incoming DPCers for the most popular textbooks - so you'll have a comprehensive list of the books you should buy once you have the little big brother/sister meeting @ orientation week. Once you buy these, you probably won't need to buy any for the second year.
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I cannot read books online...I spend like 10+ hours on computer each day ...I cannot read online versions 🙁 my eyes are red and hurt.
 
I'm selling the following brand new books:
- Robbins Atlas of Pathology (ISBN - 141600274X)
- Lippincott Biochemistry, 3rd edition (ISBN - 0781722659)
- Goljan Rapid Review Pathology, 2nd edition (ISBN - 032304414X)
- Lange Pharm Review (ISBN - 0071422900)
- Blueprints Cases Microbiology (ISBN - 1405103477)
- Problem Based Microbiology (ISBN - 072160630X)

Price of each book = half of amazon.com price

I will only be on campus one time - this monday (11th) at around 1pm. If you're interested, PM me for this one time offer. Otherwise I will give the books away on consignment.
 
any updates from anyone receiving email information?
 
we didn't get e-mail access till we got to orientation last year. our e-mail accounts were active though as of like April before orientation since when I logged in I had some old e-mails already.

If they gave you private webboard access and it was your personal name not the generic username and password, try using that under NYIT's "mymail". That may work but I doubt they'll give it to you before orientation.
 
I did not recieve anything else after the survey.
 
Are there any upperclassmen/women that could offer some insight into which track might be better? I'm a prosp student looking at NYCOM's curriculum... wondering if one track falls short in biochem or molecular/cell bio.

Or any new students that chose DPC over LDB... what were your reasons? I can't seem to find too much info about it online.
 
this survey everyone received was it sent to your own private email account or to a NYCOM email account? I called NYCOM and after being tossed around from dept. to dept. I was told to call Dominic at 516-686-3984 although I want to know if anyone got any personal IDs or email accounts before I do since it would be awfully silly to call him when no one has yet to receive anything.Thanks.
 
beachboy0121 said:
Are there any upperclassmen/women that could offer some insight into which track might be better? I'm a prosp student looking at NYCOM's curriculum... wondering if one track falls short in biochem or molecular/cell bio.

Or any new students that chose DPC over LDB... what were your reasons? I can't seem to find too much info about it online.
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I am better in digging material myself (DPC), plus almsot all my graduate classes were PBL and I did much better than LDP. Thats why I chose DPC.
 
kissachka said:
this survey everyone received was it sent to your own private email account or to a NYCOM email account? I called NYCOM and after being tossed around from dept. to dept. I was told to call Dominic at 516-686-3984 although I want to know if anyone got any personal IDs or email accounts before I do since it would be awfully silly to call him when no one has yet to receive anything.Thanks.
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It is supposed to be your private e-mail.
 
Does anyone know if we actually have classes on August 20th? I know it is orientation. Thanks in advance.
 
Kappy1 said:
Does anyone know if we actually have classes on August 20th? I know it is orientation. Thanks in advance.
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For the class of 2010 we had ONE day of orientation and then classes started immediately the next day, so i think it will probably be the same for you guys
 
nyc55 said:
For the class of 2010 we had ONE day of orientation and then classes started immediately the next day, so i think it will probably be the same for you guys
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What was the orientation program like last year?
 
Umm...the orientation was very brief. One day where they threw a ton of information at us about NYCOM policies and insurance and financial etc. All in all it was a pretty boring and long day.

Classes started for us the day after orientation and if I have to give any advice it is to not fall behind and work your butt off starting on that first day of class because in my opinion, fundamentals was the hardest thread we took all year. I think they may be revising it for you guys but we had something like an insane 89 lectures for our fundamentals exam while our other threads tended to be between like 28 and 45 lectures. There was just way too much material to study for that first test and without really knowing what it's going to be like it's going to make it extra difficult. Be prepared from day one. In college I know I liked to be able to slowly get back into the swing of things each semester, but really don't slack off for even one day in fundamentals. You'll have time for that in the other threads.
 
Wey2Tyred said:
Hey guys, glad to finally join you all on the SDN! I have some questions and one tip (the two cents may or may not be helpful).

Questions: is anyone else having a difficult time finding housing that is available before August 6th? I've looked at some really great places including beach houses within walking distance to campus. However, most are seasonal rentals and do not become available until after we start classes. I also checked out an extended stay at some local hotels and so on, but my concern is the possibility of a situation where I am two weeks into gross (with two or more exams) and having to move in to a new house. Does anyone have any advice on this issue or housing processes in general? Does UNE having any programs that match students up who are looking for roomates as I see myself being in that situation relatively soon?

Tip: on the tablet/laptop issue- I have a gateway tablet, duo core- 2 ghz, and all the other nice treats, and while it is nice to be able to toggle from a typing mode to tab mode (say if you were taking notes and needed to draw a structure of some sort), it's not all that much better than a standard notebook- and is sometimes it's a bit clunky. If you are looking for tabs though, I purchased mine at the Gateway refurb site for $800. http://www.gateway.com/reman/reman_landing.php?seg=hm
Refurbs are great because you can usually find a really beefed up model inexpensively. AND because if it's refurbed and resold, you know there's been some intense QA performed on the item to ensure it doesn't fail.

Good Luck & Thanks!
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NYCOM Is not walking distance to ANY beach. It's a good 20 min from the north shore. So these people are pulling your leg. The best way to find housing is to come here. You will be happy if you live in Glen Cove/Glen Head area. Go to the NYCOM library and ask someone to sign you on to the current students' webboard, and you can look at housing listings there. There are a lot of people that do not advertise their apartments to anyone but NYCOM students. The webboard and word of mouth is the only way you'll find them, and they're probably the best apts. That's how I found mine, and a lot of others did too.

I know a lot of people who lived in queens, brooklyn, etc this year, and they are all moving closer. If you have to be at class, you'll probably study on campus since you're there anyway. You're not going to want to drive back to brooklyn at 10pm or later, or interrupt your studying to drive home at a decent hour. Trust me.

To those asking about laptops.... You can get away with not having one, it's all about preference. I like mine because it has my settings and i'm comfortable with it. I study at school, and stream every lecture after attending every lecture. My boyfriend has a desktop at home and uses the library's computers to stream at school. He doesn't mind that at all. However, if you're not going to get a laptop, invest in a good flash drive so that if you do work, you can save it and not have to email everything.

Feel free to PM me with questions
 
gobiggreen said:
Umm...the orientation was very brief. One day where they threw a ton of information at us about NYCOM policies and insurance and financial etc. All in all it was a pretty boring and long day.

Classes started for us the day after orientation and if I have to give any advice it is to not fall behind and work your butt off starting on that first day of class because in my opinion, fundamentals was the hardest thread we took all year. I think they may be revising it for you guys but we had something like an insane 89 lectures for our fundamentals exam while our other threads tended to be between like 28 and 45 lectures. There was just way too much material to study for that first test and without really knowing what it's going to be like it's going to make it extra difficult. Be prepared from day one. In college I know I liked to be able to slowly get back into the swing of things each semester, but really don't slack off for even one day in fundamentals. You'll have time for that in the other threads.
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I 100% AGREE with this. That is the best advice any of us from class of 2010 can give!! fundamentals is SO HARD, just make a point of being on top of EVERY lecture and you'll be fine
good luck!
 
Kappy1 said:
What was the orientation program like last year?
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it was basically 8 hrs of administrative people introducing themselves and telling you how life altering the next 4 yrs will be
AND
waiting on line for hours to get your stupid ID

thats it!

soooo boring
 
nyc55 said:
it was basically 8 hrs of administrative people introducing themselves and telling you how life altering the next 4 yrs will be
AND
waiting on line for hours to get your stupid ID

thats it!

soooo boring
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Last year they told us that we could come in on the weekend before and get our ID...I highly recommend you do that so you don't have to wait on line!!
 
JasonUD said:
Last year they told us that we could come in on the weekend before and get our ID...I highly recommend you do that so you don't have to wait on line!!
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I agree. Get anything done before school starts if given the opportunity: medical insurance, financial aid, IDs, transcripts, etc.

fundamentals lecture = "you don't have to know this now. you will see it again later" :laugh: At least they were right about the second part. :meanie:

Don't get behind sounds so generic but is is true. And yes people do slack and get behind so the advice will be given forever.
 
so i remember the week before my undergrad started, I WAS SO EXCITED. I was going away to school and when i got there it really was what i expected, a summer camp. Basically a week long of fun and activities to get us comfortable etc etc. Ive been out of school for a year and i MISS it. I have a friend who started law school in september and he said that his orientation was off the hook, he didnt expect the dean of the school to be passing out beer the first day of orientation (and i must say that this is a top 20 law school in the US).

Regardless, im kinda bummed that nycom orientation is boring and sucky. I was kinda hoping that they had atleast 2-3 days, for people to get to know eachother, get ready for the big and serious stuff ahead of us, maybe have a big kickball game against the second year students, something like that. (i know we are becoming physicians, but cmon, weve been prepped for all the hard work our whole life, like i always say, we all know where we will get, its how we get there that matters)

with all this said, this really sucks, not only is nycom changing policies and making it more like a prison, and not to mention how EXPENSIVE IT is compared to other schools, why are they trying to torture us?? ...

i am no longer excited ahha, sorry, just typing away............
 
To all of you incoming first years who are getting really down about all of the "changes" going on, remember this. Typically, people who post in forums, are people who are unhappy with how things are going.

Yes, there are a lot of changes going on, however, a lot of these are because the current way isn't working out. There are also changes that you guys will like. For example, you start anatomy at the beginning of first year, and don't have to share bodies with the second years like we did. That'll be very good.

Also, my boyfriend is currently at OBLC with medical students from all over the country, and he said that the consensus is the same. Everyone is going through curriculum changes. Everyone thinks their administration sucks. Everyone thinks their tests HAVE to be harder than other schools. So basically, this is med school, no matter where you are. Med school is hard. Make the best of it.

Second years, PLEASE STOP SCARING THE CRAP OUT OF THESE STUDENTS! If you're still on here, then I'm assuming you made it through, so it couldn't have been THAT bad. I didn't think it was. Who knows maybe these changes will be GOOD. Hmmmm.

Personally, I go to class every day anyway. If I'm paying $40K a year, I want to get every penny's worth. I don't teach myself, I like to be taught.

As far as the test taking policy, you won't have known anything else, so it'll just be what you're used to. So see what it's like before you complain. I personally like the fact that I won't have 8 weeks of material per test. It's really hard to get all that info into ur brain without some of it falling out. 🙂

So my best advice is to relax, enjoy your summer, don't listen to people's opinions and wait to form your own. Work hard from the beginning, don't get behind, and it won't be that bad.
 
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