Official 2008 Secondary Discussion Thread part 2

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I spoke too soon for EVMS, just got the secondary today.

Still waiting on VCU, though.

Oh wait, and still waiting on my LOR writers to get their butts into gear.

Grrrrrr. 😡

And my BU login doesn't work anymore. And by anymore, I mean, it only worked once. My chances there are pretty slim, though...maybe this is their subtle way of telling me.
 
So I talked to Pittsburgh again, and they said that they're downloading LORs from VirtualEval now, and that the status should be updated within two weeks. This is essentially the same message I got a few weeks ago, though.
 
So, what's up with the Northwestern LORs? Has anyone talked to them?

I've got all of mine at Interfolio and I guess they're not willing to accept that. However, one of my letter writers is in Africa and I think it would be quite difficult to get her to resubmit directly to Feinberg.

How can be so ridiculously stringent? Why do they accept VirtualEvals and not electronic Interfolio?

argh. . .
 
For Johns Hopkins secondary, does anyone remember if you could pay electronically or not? I forgot what I did, and nothing has been billed to my bank account yet... Do they send you an email once they receive your application?
 
drizzt3117 said:
Do CW and CCLCM have different admissions committees etc, and are your applications processed separately?
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Yes and no. There is one secondary for both programs. You check off a box if you want to apply specifically for CCLCM, and you'll have to write a couple of extra essays. If you applied to both programs, they will both evaluate your app and decide whether to invite you. Each program makes a separate decision, although they talk to each other, so the Case admissions people know who CCLCM is inviting and vice versa. One of four things can happen: both could decide not to invite you, you could get invited for one and not the other, or both could invite you. If it's the last case, they will coordinate your interviews so that you only have to come out here to Cleveland once. Just so everyone knows, there have not been any invites for CCLCM sent out yet as far as I know. This program doesn't start interviewing until some time toward the end of September. It's also completely possible to get accepted by one program and rejected by the other. Happens all the time. And if you applied to both programs, you will probably hear much later than the people who only applied to one or the other since both of them have to evaluate you and they have to coordinate your invites. So don't freak out if you know people who just applied to one program and they already heard but you applied to both and didn't hear yet.
 
CCLCMer said:
Yes and no. There is one secondary for both programs. You check off a box if you want to apply specifically for CCLCM, and you'll have to write a couple of extra essays. If you applied to both programs, they will both evaluate your app and decide whether to invite you. Each program makes a separate decision, although they talk to each other, so the Case admissions people know who CCLCM is inviting and vice versa. One of four things can happen: both could decide not to invite you, you could get invited for one and not the other, or both could invite you. If it's the last case, they will coordinate your interviews so that you only have to come out here to Cleveland once. Just so everyone knows, there have not been any invites for CCLCM sent out yet as far as I know. This program doesn't start interviewing until some time toward the end of September. It's also completely possible to get accepted by one program and rejected by the other. Happens all the time. And if you applied to both programs, you will probably hear much later than the people who only applied to one or the other since both of them have to evaluate you and they have to coordinate your invites. So don't freak out if you know people who just applied to one program and they already heard but you applied to both and didn't hear yet.
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Thanks SO much for the info- big help!
 
anotherpremed said:
Thanks SO much for the info- big help!
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No problem. I know how hard it is to deal with going through this stuff sometimes. Just hang in there, and I hope to meet some of you when you come to Cleveland. 🙂
 
CCLCMer said:
Yes and no. There is one secondary for both programs. You check off a box if you want to apply specifically for CCLCM, and you'll have to write a couple of extra essays. If you applied to both programs, they will both evaluate your app and decide whether to invite you. Each program makes a separate decision, although they talk to each other, so the Case admissions people know who CCLCM is inviting and vice versa. One of four things can happen: both could decide not to invite you, you could get invited for one and not the other, or both could invite you. If it's the last case, they will coordinate your interviews so that you only have to come out here to Cleveland once. Just so everyone knows, there have not been any invites for CCLCM sent out yet as far as I know. This program doesn't start interviewing until some time toward the end of September. It's also completely possible to get accepted by one program and rejected by the other. Happens all the time. And if you applied to both programs, you will probably hear much later than the people who only applied to one or the other since both of them have to evaluate you and they have to coordinate your invites. So don't freak out if you know people who just applied to one program and they already heard but you applied to both and didn't hear yet.
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Hey, so I applied to both programs, but I didn't notice any extra essays? It could be that the essays I saw were for both or for CCLCM and not for the regular case application, though?
 
drizzt3117 said:
Hey, so I applied to both programs, but I didn't notice any extra essays? It could be that the essays I saw were for both or for CCLCM and not for the regular case application, though?
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Probably. As long as you checked the CCLCM box, you would have gotten the extra essays. Or, maybe the UP is making everyone write them too this year now that they have their new curriculum. Did you have one asking about your research experiences? When I applied, the main Case question was to write a biography, and then CCLCM wanted us to write about our research. But I applied two years ago, so maybe things are different now.
 
CCLCMer said:
Probably. As long as you checked the CCLCM box, you would have gotten the extra essays. Or, maybe the UP is making everyone write them too this year now that they have their new curriculum. Did you have one asking about your research experiences? When I applied, the main Case question was to write a biography, and then CCLCM wanted us to write about our research. But I applied two years ago, so maybe things are different now.
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It might be the latter, b/c these are the essays I wrote:

(Required)The Admissions Committee is interested in gaining insight into you as a person. Please describe an experience or situation which you found personally challenging and discuss how it helped to shape you as a person. You may discuss a moral or ethical dilemma, situation of personal adversity or other life-event you believe to have been important in your personal development. Please limit your essay to 1 page (about 3,500 characters), and leave a blank line between paragraphs. If you cut and paste your essay from a word processing program, be sure to place your cursor at the end of the pasted text and click on the space bar. This assures that the program will save your text correctly.

(Required)One of the four pillars of the Western Reserve Curriculum 2 is Research and Scholarship. Although research is not a pre-requisite requirement for the University Program, if you have participated in a scholarly project please tell us about it. Describe your experience, including the question you pursued and how you approached it, your results and interpretation of the results, and most importantly, any thoughts about what this experience meant to you. Remember that research is broad-based and can include such projects as a senior capstone or a thesis and can include both medical and non medically-related investigations. If you have not participated in research or scholarly work, please indicate so in the text area below. Please limit your response to 1 page (about 3,500 characters), and leave a blank line between paragraphs. If you cut and paste your essay from a word processing program, be sure to place your cursor at the end of the pasted text and click on the space bar. This assures that the program will save your text correctly.
 
drizzt3117 said:
It might be the latter, b/c these are the essays I wrote:

(Required)The Admissions Committee is interested in gaining insight into you as a person. Please describe an experience or situation which you found personally challenging and discuss how it helped to shape you as a person. You may discuss a moral or ethical dilemma, situation of personal adversity or other life-event you believe to have been important in your personal development. Please limit your essay to 1 page (about 3,500 characters), and leave a blank line between paragraphs. If you cut and paste your essay from a word processing program, be sure to place your cursor at the end of the pasted text and click on the space bar. This assures that the program will save your text correctly.

(Required)One of the four pillars of the Western Reserve Curriculum 2 is Research and Scholarship. Although research is not a pre-requisite requirement for the University Program, if you have participated in a scholarly project please tell us about it. Describe your experience, including the question you pursued and how you approached it, your results and interpretation of the results, and most importantly, any thoughts about what this experience meant to you. Remember that research is broad-based and can include such projects as a senior capstone or a thesis and can include both medical and non medically-related investigations. If you have not participated in research or scholarly work, please indicate so in the text area below. Please limit your response to 1 page (about 3,500 characters), and leave a blank line between paragraphs. If you cut and paste your essay from a word processing program, be sure to place your cursor at the end of the pasted text and click on the space bar. This assures that the program will save your text correctly.
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Hmm. The first one looks pretty familiar like what I had on my Case app. The second one doesn't mention research being required for CCLCM at all, which kind of surprises me because CCLCM does expect all applicants to have done research. They will see what you wrote for Case's essays, so they will know about your research though. I think as long as you checked the CCLCM box and wrote about your research experience for the second essay, you should be fine. Next time I see Melissa (she's the admissions secretary here), I'll double check and ask her if there is a separate CCLCM essay still. Or you can call too if you're worried. Sorry I can't tell you anything more.
 
CCLCMer said:
Hmm. The first one looks pretty familiar like what I had on my Case app. The second one doesn't mention research being required for CCLCM at all, which kind of surprises me because CCLCM does expect all applicants to have done research. They will see what you wrote for Case's essays, so they will know about your research though. I think as long as you checked the CCLCM box and wrote about your research experience for the second essay, you should be fine. Next time I see Melissa (she's the admissions secretary here), I'll double check and ask her if there is a separate CCLCM essay still. Or you can call too if you're worried. Sorry I can't tell you anything more.
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Yeah, I sent an email to the admissions office, since they were closed when I tried to call. Maybe I'll give them a ring tomorrow to make sure they got my app.
 
drizzt3117 said:
Yeah, I sent an email to the admissions office, since they were closed when I tried to call. Maybe I'll give them a ring tomorrow to make sure they got my app.
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Yeah, we're on Eastern time here, so they closed at five. They'll be open again at eight tomorrow morning. I'll come back and post if I find anything out. Good luck with your apps.
 
I'm waiting on Drexel, Emory, UCSF and Vandy. UCSF and Vandy screen, so who knows. I applied to 26 schools, and it's gone by in a hazy blur. Hopefully my essays don't sound hazy too.

I really can't believe that the writing and editing stage of applications is almost over. Soon it'll just be sitting back and relaxing. No, wait, not relaxing. Sitting back rigidly in a chair, waiting, watching my email and running to the mail box everyday.
 
phoenix1 said:
I'm waiting on Drexel, Emory, UCSF and Vandy. UCSF and Vandy screen, so who knows. I applied to 26 schools, and it's gone by in a hazy blur. Hopefully my essays don't sound hazy too.

I really can't believe that the writing and editing stage of applications is almost over. Soon it'll just be sitting back and relaxing. No, wait, not relaxing. Sitting back rigidly in a chair, waiting, watching my email and running to the mail box everyday.
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I have gmail notifier but I dont trust it so I keep checking my inbox. It doesnt lie.

I am waiting on stanford. Did someone mention the day when it would be released?
 
alisa said:
For Johns Hopkins secondary, does anyone remember if you could pay electronically or not? I forgot what I did, and nothing has been billed to my bank account yet... Do they send you an email once they receive your application?
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Yes, you pay electronically, and yes they send you an email after you submit.

I finally got the "you are complete email" from them today, too. Hooray.
 
Am I seriously the only one who hasn't got Northwestern's secondary yet? So much for being verified 6/6... Anyone else?
 
I was considering getting a LOR from a family friend, who is a graduate of the University of Missouri-Columbia Law School and is the Chief Justice of the Missouri Appellate Court. He could give a really good character reference and I thought some name recognition might help. Any thoughts? My other LOR are from faculty from my school. I do not have an MD letter because the school does not require one.
 
Yeah, I'm still waiting for Drexel and Stony Brook... blegh. Stony Brook still has theirs from last year up and i keep trying to changing 2007 to 2008 in the url because i'm getting so annoyed.
 
zipmedic said:
My last two stragglers are Drexel and UMN-Twin Cities.
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I got UMN-Twin Cities, Colorado, and UNC still. I get to wait a couple weeks yet for Colorado, and who knows about the other two.

saqrfaraj said:
Yes, you pay electronically, and yes they send you an email after you submit.

I finally got the "you are complete email" from them today, too. Hooray.
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When did you submit your LORs? I've been waiting on JHU for a while, and I haven't heard anything yet.

I did, however, get the e-mail that I'm complete at Cornell. That made me happy. So my tally is:

6/9 secondaries received
3/6 complete files (JHU, Mt. Sinai, and AECOM to go)
 
mvenus929 said:
When did you submit your LORs? I've been waiting on JHU for a while, and I haven't heard anything yet.
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I submitted my secondary on June 28th, and my letter didn't get sent out on VirtualEvals until July 24th. I got the email today saying I'm complete, so it took them one week to process everything and let me know.
 
zipmedic said:
My last two stragglers are Drexel and UMN-Twin Cities.
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umn-tc screens... could explain it,

question for everyone

I'm looking at Columbia's secondary, and there's a question about listing your employment experiences in list form w/ commas, but there's also a 1100 character limit. Do they really expect an 1100 char run-on sentence? Any ideas?
 
How long after you got verified did u receive secondaries for New York Medical College????
 
zipmedic said:
My last two stragglers are Drexel and UMN-Twin Cities.
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ditto...plus toledo, NYMC (i don't know why...), Wayne State (???), Rush (???)...and maybe others. I have forgotten already.

/verified 6/12

p.s. Anyone else still having trouble with Wright State? It's been nearly a month...
 
You can get Rush's online. Not sure why you haven't received NYMC. I was verified 6/6 as well; received NYMC on 7/26. Maybe give it until Friday and call them Monday if you still haven't gotten it?
 
zipmedic said:
You can get Rush's online. Not sure why you haven't received NYMC. I was verified 6/6 as well; received NYMC on 7/26. Maybe give it until Friday and call them Monday if you still haven't gotten it?
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Fantastic...no need for an invite for Rush? I've looked at the questions already from other posters, so I know what the questions are. These have just been sad, silent inbox days that have passed...
 
div0t17 said:
Fantastic...no need for an invite for Rush? I've looked at the questions already from other posters, so I know what the questions are. These have just been sad, silent inbox days that have passed...
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I know the feeling. And it doesn't seem you need an official invite - anyone with an AMCAS ID can register. It's a bear of a secondary, the essays notwithstanding. There are a lot of other ancillary questions on there, too.
 
As far as I can tell WashU only has optional essays, one of them being:
"Do you have unique experiences or obstacles than you have overcome that were not covered in your application about which you would like to inform our Admissions Committee?"

I'm just curious if other people are writing this essay. I don't know if this is one of those don't fill it out unless you have something really unique to say or if I can tell some sort of story about my experiences that shows a bit more about who I am.
 
Is anyone able to login to Duke's application? I just got the email explaining how PAS works etc. and how I register and login for the first time but when I put in AMCAS #/last name/birthday (yyyy-mm-dd)/email, it comes up with an error message saying Duke doesn't have that info in the system and telling me to only login/regist if i got the email (which I did)...

I don't want to be that crazy premed who calls Duke at 6:40am (CST) so I thought I'd check here first...
 
j-weezy said:
Is anyone able to login to Duke's application? I just got the email explaining how PAS works etc. and how I register and login for the first time but when I put in AMCAS #/last name/birthday (yyyy-mm-dd)/email, it comes up with an error message saying Duke doesn't have that info in the system and telling me to only login/regist if i got the email (which I did)...

I don't want to be that crazy premed who calls Duke at 6:40am (CST) so I thought I'd check here first...
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me too- just wait until the office opens and maybe the system will reset itself.
 
CCLCMer said:
Hmm. The first one looks pretty familiar like what I had on my Case app. The second one doesn't mention research being required for CCLCM at all, which kind of surprises me because CCLCM does expect all applicants to have done research. They will see what you wrote for Case's essays, so they will know about your research though. I think as long as you checked the CCLCM box and wrote about your research experience for the second essay, you should be fine. Next time I see Melissa (she's the admissions secretary here), I'll double check and ask her if there is a separate CCLCM essay still. Or you can call too if you're worried. Sorry I can't tell you anything more.
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I also applied to both programs (I hope) and I only got these two essays. So either we both screwed it up, or the essays have changed. I REALLY hope its the latter. I'm pretty sure we're OK because I'm looking at the copy of my app I printed out and it says "University Program Application 2008" on the header, but under "Programs applied to:" it has both UP an CP listed.:luck:
 
AMPed said:
I also applied to both programs (I hope) and I only got these two essays. So either we both screwed it up, or the essays have changed. I REALLY hope its the latter. I'm pretty sure we're OK because I'm looking at the copy of my app I printed out and it says "University Program Application 2008" on the header, but under "Programs applied to:" it has both UP an CP listed.:luck:
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Ok, for CCLCM there are definitely only two essays (one for research, one personal) and no invites have gone out yet. They don't know when the first ones will go out. Good luck everyone.
 
My last few are Wayne state, Drexel, and Stanford. Anyone hear from these yet?

I really like Mayo's style: Send money, and we'll look at your primaries, but don't hold your breath for that secondary.
 
I heard two weeks for Stanford. Not sure if they screen.
 
CCLCMer said:
Ok, for CCLCM there are definitely only two essays (one for research, one personal) and no invites have gone out yet. They don't know when the first ones will go out. Good luck everyone.
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Thanks a lot, CCLCMer. I skimmed your blog and I'm looking forward to reading a bit more about your experience at CCLCM. Thanks
 
j-weezy said:
Is anyone able to login to Duke's application? I just got the email explaining how PAS works etc. and how I register and login for the first time but when I put in AMCAS #/last name/birthday (yyyy-mm-dd)/email, it comes up with an error message saying Duke doesn't have that info in the system and telling me to only login/regist if i got the email (which I did)...

I don't want to be that crazy premed who calls Duke at 6:40am (CST) so I thought I'd check here first...
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yeah, i think i was probably the first to call with that problem. it works on firefox, not IE.
 
does anyone else still not have verified LORs at Pitt?? i used VE and the school apparently downloaded them, but this was almost a month ago.
 
blargh said:
does anyone else still not have verified LORs at Pitt?? i used VE and the school apparently downloaded them, but this was almost a month ago.
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yup. I called them this morning, and was told that they're pretty backed up. I was told to call back in two weeks if they're still not posted.

for the record, Interfolio sent mine on 7/3.
 
Has anyone received NYMC's secondary recently? If so, when were you verified? The only batch that I have heard of getting sent out was on 7/26.
 
Did everyone attach the form they give you with your LOR's for EVMS? My letters are stored with Interfolio, so I don't really understand how I'm supposed to get these letters signed & attached to my evaluation letters?

Thanks.
 
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