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Credit to thor343 for doing this last year (I copied his format for this thread). Since we submitted apps today seems fitting to get this party started.

Instructions from last years thread are below

1) Keep the list in the body when you reply
2) Please sort alphabetically by state
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4) It would be helpful if the person who FIRST adds a program could also include the date they received their invite.

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Step 1: Click on the blue "QUOTE" button at the bottom right of the last post (don't copy and paste since it will not pick up the HTML code for boldface fonts).
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Step 3: Make your additions, then post. Please type what you are adding in the title/subject line so people won't have to search the whole post to see what you added.

Goodluck everyone!



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Thanks Carpe! Really excited to finally get the interview season started. Good luck everyone!
 
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Wow, this all happened so fast. I wish you all the best!


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I have a quick question. A lot of programs like Columbia and Yale ask for "a minimum of 3 LoRs". If I have 3 LoRs currently (2 psychiatrists, 1 FM) and have 2 other people (one Peds, one IM) who said they would write one for me, should I wait for one of these other docs to write a letter for me before submitting to those programs or should I just submit now? How much does it matter?
 
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Good luck, everyone!

I thought i would have to submitmy app without my lors completed but the writers came through last minute! Thank the ERAS gods!
 
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Is it that time of the year already? Dang I'm feeling old. Good luck everyone!
 
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I have a quick question. A lot of programs like Columbia and Yale ask for "a minimum of 3 LoRs". If I have 3 LoRs currently (2 psychiatrists, 1 FM) and have 2 other people (one Peds, one IM) who said they would write one for me, should I wait for one of these other docs to write a letter for me before submitting to those programs or should I just submit now? How much does it matter?
Submit now and update later.
 
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UT Southwestern and Johns Hopkins

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Wow, this was quick! Congrats!
 

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How do you pick which order to read them?


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We make hard copies and throw them at the celling. I start with the ones that stick. Seriously, slogging alphabetical, but plan to be quick and complete so no advantage to the Adamses out there.
 
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Filter in our favorite med schools first, filter out folks with unacceptable boards or who have been out of med school too long, divvy up the hundreds left so that someone in the program has at least laid eyes on most of them. Sift through for hidden gems, interesting PSs*, "OMG Best ever" LORs, look harder at folks with top 20% board scores and hope that we still have interview slots left for outstanding latecomers...
I'm getting a headache already.

*I wish splik still had his "The Six Types of Personal Statements" up--it was classic, and oh so true. It's pretty rare that one departs from that structure.
 
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WAMC of getting an interview invite in September if I only have 2/3 LOR's? Is a "complete" application a common filter programs apply? Or only the top 5 programs? Thanks y'all
 

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*I wish splik still had his "The Six Types of Personal Statements" up--it was classic, and oh so true. It's pretty rare that one departs from that structure.

Me too. I searched so hard for the six types when I was working on mine. I wanna see which type mine is.



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Filter in our favorite med schools first, filter out folks with unacceptable boards or who have been out of med school too long, divvy up the hundreds left so that someone in the program has at least laid eyes on most of them. Sift through for hidden gems, interesting PSs*, "OMG Best ever" LORs, look harder at folks with top 20% board scores and hope that we still have interview slots left for outstanding latecomers...
I'm getting a headache already.

*I wish splik still had his "The Six Types of Personal Statements" up--it was classic, and oh so true. It's pretty rare that one departs from that structure.

I'm sure you're extremely busy, so thank you for taking time to answer our questions! (also big thanks to @MacDonaldTriad as well!)

One More: Do you consider your program to be competitive? Just curious because you mentioned top 20% board scores and I know I'm nowhere near that percentile (and the idea that a lot of programs I applied to might use that as criteria makes my match-process-neuroticism kick into higher gear, lol).
 

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I'm sure you're extremely busy, so thank you for taking time to answer our questions! (also big thanks to @MacDonaldTriad as well!)

One More: Do you consider your program to be competitive? Just curious because you mentioned top 20% board scores and I know I'm nowhere near that percentile (and the idea that a lot of programs I applied to might use that as criteria makes my match-process-neuroticism kick into higher gear, lol).
Solid mid-range, but that top 20% screen is for IMGs, Caribs, etc. with no discernible connection to our region--trying to "screen in" quality applicants from the huge mass of apps. When we have to find the folks we really want to interview out of several hundred, it helps to have something better than sheer randomness to guide our prioritization.
As I said, AMGs & DOs are checked out in the first pass, and we're more concerned about just a decent passing score in that case. (Though if you're in the bottom 20% you'd better have something else in your app to catch our eye.)
 
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Received a "supplementary app" from Carolinas Medical Center yesterday. I didn't know this was a thing residency apps!
 
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Solid mid-range, but that top 20% screen is for IMGs, Caribs, etc. with no discernible connection to our region--trying to "screen in" quality applicants from the huge mass of apps. When we have to find the folks we really want to interview out of several hundred, it helps to have something better than sheer randomness to guide our prioritization.
As I said, AMGs & DOs are checked out in the first pass, and we're more concerned about just a decent passing score in that case. (Though if you're in the bottom 20% you'd better have something else in your app to catch our eye.)

Thank you for your input!! Especially on a weekend!

I'm a US MD student waiting for first II (hopefully). Worried I won't get past the step 1 screens for programs to see my improved CK. Applied mostly to NE/mid Atlantic region. Trying to remind myself if I was a PD I would not want to be reading 500 personal statements on a Saturday...

Good luck everyone!
 

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Filter in our favorite med schools first, filter out folks with unacceptable boards or who have been out of med school too long, divvy up the hundreds left so that someone in the program has at least laid eyes on most of them. Sift through for hidden gems, interesting PSs*, "OMG Best ever" LORs, look harder at folks with top 20% board scores and hope that we still have interview slots left for outstanding latecomers...

What makes a school a "favorite"? Local med schools? Academic ranking and general competitiveness?
 

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Solid mid-range, but that top 20% screen is for IMGs, Caribs, etc. with no discernible connection to our region--trying to "screen in" quality applicants from the huge mass of apps. When we have to find the folks we really want to interview out of several hundred, it helps to have something better than sheer randomness to guide our prioritization.
As I said, AMGs & DOs are checked out in the first pass, and we're more concerned about just a decent passing score in that case. (Though if you're in the bottom 20% you'd better have something else in your app to catch our eye.)

Thank you again for taking the time to post right now. One follow up question is what would you consider to be "something else to catch our eye"? I'd imagine extensive research would count, but what kinds of other things would you look for? Just curious because my boards weren't great (don't know the percentile, but wouldn't be surprised if it was around the 25th) and I didn't choose psych until 3rd year (minimal exposure).
 

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What makes a school a "favorite"? Local med schools? Academic ranking and general competitiveness?
Basically the schools within 1-2 state radius. They know us...we know them.
We have some history of getting good residents from those, and they tend to enroll students who want to stick around.
 
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Thank you again for taking the time to post right now. One follow up question is what would you consider to be "something else to catch our eye"? I'd imagine extensive research would count, but what kinds of other things would you look for? Just curious because my boards weren't great (don't know the percentile, but wouldn't be surprised if it was around the 25th) and I didn't choose psych until 3rd year (minimal exposure).
Some great life experience, a great personal statement or LOR that inspires one of our committee to advocate for you, research maybe (it helps as a show of aptitude and commitment, but research isn't our program's hallmark strength.)
 
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Some great life experience, a great personal statement or LOR that inspires one of our committee to advocate for you, research maybe (it helps as a show of aptitude and commitment, but research isn't our program's hallmark strength.)

Thank you so much for your contributions thus far!

I am curious as to your approach to DO applicants. Do you consider their scores comparable to MD applicants (especially if they have taken USMLE)? What makes a DO stand out in the process?
 

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Thank you so much for your contributions thus far!

I am curious as to your approach to DO applicants. Do you consider their scores comparable to MD applicants (especially if they have taken USMLE)? What makes a DO stand out in the process?
We consider them equivalent, period.
 
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As an APD tasked with ERAS screening, I won't be sending out invites for 10 days (goal: send invites by 9/25). The way to send out quick invites is to use USMLE cut-points for screening or to focus on medical schools with more prestige. In my experience, these have not correlated well with resident clinical performance or openness to training. IMO, the worst applicants are folks high in arrogance. It just don't work well for training in psychiatry.
 
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Thank you for your input!! Especially on a weekend!

I'm a US MD student waiting for first II (hopefully). Worried I won't get past the step 1 screens for programs to see my improved CK. Applied mostly to NE/mid Atlantic region. Trying to remind myself if I was a PD I would not want to be reading 500 personal statements on a Saturday...

Good luck everyone!

Hey CingulateGyro, I saw your post on the WAMC thread and relate to you quite well. I also just sent out my applications and am concerned due to my similar Step 1 score. I just wanted to say that I have received an interview already, so our Step 2 score hopefully will assist with bypassing the Step 1 screens!
 
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Hey CingulateGyro, I saw your post on the WAMC thread and relate to you quite well. I also just sent out my applications and am concerned due to my similar Step 1 score. I just wanted to say that I have received an interview already, so our Step 2 score hopefully will assist with bypassing the Step 1 screens!
You should list it on this thread to help people out!
 

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You should list it on this thread to help people out!


Yep, just uh posting in between patients, hopefully attending doesn't notice haha.

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Solid mid-range, but that top 20% screen is for IMGs, Caribs, etc. with no discernible connection to our region--trying to "screen in" quality applicants from the huge mass of apps. When we have to find the folks we really want to interview out of several hundred, it helps to have something better than sheer randomness to guide our prioritization.
As I said, AMGs & DOs are checked out in the first pass, and we're more concerned about just a decent passing score in that case. (Though if you're in the bottom 20% you'd better have something else in your app to catch our eye.)

If you have a strong connection to an area that isn't evident in your application, is it worth mentioning in your PS for that school?
 

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If you have a strong connection to an area that isn't evident in your application, is it worth mentioning in your PS for that school?
ABSOLUTELY.
ERAS only tells us where you live now, where you went to medical school, and (if we dig) where you went to undergrad.
We can't see where you grew up, where your SO is from, where you went to HS, etc. unless you tell us.
 
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ABSOLUTELY.
ERAS only tells us where you live now, where you went to medical school, and (if we dig) where you went to undergrad.
We can't see where you grew up, where your SO is from, where you went to HS, etc. unless you tell us.

Would it be reasonable to mention outside of the personal statement? As in an email?
 
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