**Official 2025 Ortho Pass/Interviews/Match/Non- match**

[niko472]

I submitted my app to NSU 5 days ago and haven’t received an email about the supplemental. How long do they usually take?

Never got an email either. Think the ‘supplemental’ is just the application to nova itself, outside of pass. Please correct me if I’m wrong!

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[orthodream1]

Last year it was a portal. They sent an email to it but not sure if this year they changed things up. On their website it says that we will be emailed the supplemental after the PASS app is deemed received and complete.

 

[dent322]

After I submitted the PASS I completed their supplemental. I followed up with an email asking if there was anything else they needed from me and this was their response. 👍

 

[orthodream1]

After I submitted the PASS I completed their supplemental. I followed up with an email asking if there was anything else they needed from me and this was their response. 👍

How did you complete the supplemental?

 

[Norhto]

Received Seton Hill University interview Invite, email received on 8/21. Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19

 

[dent322]

How did you complete the supplemental?

Oh sorry I didn’t realize that’s what you were asking about. They emailed me a link. I waited two weeks before reaching out to them and then they responded with the link

 

[hopefullyfutureortho]

hey guys whoever gets an interview, would you please (if you're comfortable with it of course) share your stats? I think it can help everyone else gain some perspective. Thank you

 

[orthodream1]

Oh sorry I didn’t realize that’s what you were asking about. They emailed me a link. I waited two weeks before reaching out to them and then they responded with the link

Thank you! I actually figured it out. Under their application procedures/admissions page there is a link to the postgraduate application after the PASS and Match info, if it’s clicked there is “start graduate application” on the right hand column and you fill out the application for “Summer II 2025 Ortho”. It can be filled out on your own, no emails sent.

 

[OncePreDent]

In the same boat 🤞

Orthos in my area (Vegas) start at $1500ish a day, the average salary at a regional corp was $390k working 4-5 days a week. Don’t know the numbers for private, but my neighbor owns her own and is very happy.

$390k sounds pretty high, In the midwest I'd say it is closer to the $250-$350k range, depending on how remote you are willing to work.

 

[DMD27]

$390k sounds pretty high, In the midwest I'd say it is closer to the $250-$350k range, depending on how remote you are willing to work.

As in more remote = higher pay? Can you explain more?

 

[Orthomaybe]

$390k sounds pretty high, In the midwest I'd say it is closer to the $250-$350k range, depending on how remote you are willing to work.

West coast area here. ~400k sounded very much within normal if you work 5days/wk. I would think Midwest should be higher. Personally, I'd consider looking elsewhere if I was making ~250k..(if it's a 5days/week schedule) imo that's on the low end.

 

[OncePreDent]

West coast area here. ~400k sounded very much within normal if you work 5days/wk. I would think Midwest should be higher. Personally, I'd consider looking elsewhere if I was making ~250k..(if it's a 5days/week schedule) imo that's on the low end.

From the orthodontists I have talked to, $250k is very normal, even for orthos who have been practicing for 20 years (yes, some owners as well). I also know a handful of orthos who have gone bankrupt trying to create their own practices and failed.

Some of my friends who have recently graduated from ortho programs in the Midwest (and practice here)- starting salary was $200k, but $250k is the average, and the highest that I heard was $300k from someone who was willing to work in a more remote/less desirable location. I think it just depends on the opportunities around you/where you are willing to live. The ones that make less typically live in more desirable locations because more orthos are eager to work/live in those locations.

Another orthodontist I know talked about how he was a general dentist for 14 years and then became an orthodontist. He's been practicing ortho for about 15 years and said, "I never made as much money in ortho as I did as a GD." Of course, everyone is different, though.

I have heard a few D4s (future general dentists) receiving job offers—salaried for $250k and $300k + a $50k sign-on bonus in some corporate offices (the highest offers I have heard). Overall, I think the pay for Ortho will be very similar to GD; it just depends on where you want to live and how much you are willing to work.

Edit: I don't think $400k is very normal. I don't know a single ortho who is making that much right away. If you can find one that pays $300k, that would be a really good job offer. IMO, realistically, it will be closer to $200k-$250k. Others can share their own experiences though. This is just from what I have heard from recent grads and practicing orthos.

 

[Orthomaybe]

From the orthodontists I have talked to, $250k is very normal, even for orthos who have been practicing for 20 years (yes, some owners as well). I also know a handful of orthos who have gone bankrupt trying to create their own practices and failed.

Some of my friends who have recently graduated from ortho programs in the Midwest (and practice here)- starting salary was $200k, but $250k is the average, and the highest that I heard was $300k from someone who was willing to work in a more remote/less desirable location. I think it just depends on the opportunities around you/where you are willing to live. The ones that make less typically live in more desirable locations because more orthos are eager to work/live in those locations.

Another orthodontist I know talked about how he was a general dentist for 14 years and then became an orthodontist. He's been practicing ortho for about 15 years and said, "I never made as much money in ortho as I did as a GD." Of course, everyone is different, though.

I have heard a few D4s (future general dentists) receiving job offers—salaried for $250k and $300k + a $50k sign-on bonus in some corporate offices (the highest offers I have heard). Overall, I think the pay for Ortho will be very similar to GD; it just depends on where you want to live and how much you are willing to work.

Edit: I don't think $400k is very normal. I don't know a single ortho who is making that much right away. If you can find one that pays $300k, that would be a really good job offer. IMO, realistically, it will be closer to $200k-$250k. Others can share their own experiences though. This is just from what I have heard from recent grads and practicing orthos.

That is interesting that this is what you are hearing. Are they all full time 4/5days a week schedule?
I've worked as GP previously and had a salary slightly over~200k (5day/week). and from my research and all the orthodontists I've talked to, every single one of them are in way better financial shape than me (income-wise).

And the few orthodontists that I am closer to were very upfront about the details of their income and all of them (IF they are on a full 4-5day/week schedule, all of them are between 300-450k range) One of them works around a big city in the Midwest doing 2days/week and she was making around ~220k (She's content because she gets to be a mom while working her 2 days/week schedule)

Obviously everyone's experience can be very different and be true at the same time. but that Ortho you said who has been practicing for 15yrs and said he has never made as much compare to GP is 100% definitely in the minority because every single source puts Ortho salary sigificantly above GP (Ziprecruiter put avg ortho at $300k nationwide compare to $190k for GP) so I'd take what he said as an anomoly. (obv unless he's just an insane super GP)
*Every source is going to have different/variable averages ofc, but all of them had Ortho making much more than GP.

Now obviously, I think most ortho do not work a full 4-5day/week schedule and the dental profession as a whole have insanely wild income differences (I have GP classmates making anywhere from 140k to higher end of 330k that I know of, but ofc if you are part of Dental nachos on fb with like 50k+ dentist, I think the consensus is that 200k for GP is considered as doing very well already)
I'd agreed with your take that the pay for Ortho will be similar to GP if we said that most ortho are working 2-3 days versus GP working 4-5 days/week. But yea, interesting discussion...

 

[OncePreDent]

That is interesting that this is what you are hearing. Are they all full time 4/5days a week schedule?
I've worked as GP previously and had a salary slightly over~200k (5day/week). and from my research and all the orthodontists I've talked to, every single one of them are in way better financial shape than me (income-wise).

And the few orthodontists that I am closer to were very upfront about the details of their income and all of them (IF they are on a full 4-5day/week schedule, all of them are between 300-450k range) One of them works around a big city in the Midwest doing 2days/week and she was making around ~220k (She's content because she gets to be a mom while working her 2 days/week schedule)

Obviously everyone's experience can be very different and be true at the same time. but that Ortho you said who has been practicing for 15yrs and said he has never made as much compare to GP is 100% definitely in the minority because every single source puts Ortho salary sigificantly above GP (Ziprecruiter put avg ortho at $300k nationwide compare to $190k for GP) so I'd take what he said as an anomoly. (obv unless he's just an insane super GP)
*Every source is going to have different/variable averages ofc, but all of them had Ortho making much more than GP.

Now obviously, I think most ortho do not work a full 4-5day/week schedule and the dental profession as a whole have insanely wild income differences (I have GP classmates making anywhere from 140k to higher end of 330k that I know of, but ofc if you are part of Dental nachos on fb with like 50k+ dentist, I think the consensus is that 200k for GP is considered as doing very well already)
I'd agreed with your take that the pay for Ortho will be similar to GP if we said that most ortho are working 2-3 days versus GP working 4-5 days/week. But yea, interesting discussion...

Yeah, it is a very interesting discussion. It would be great if a few recent grads could comment on some of the offers they have received from different offices.

The orthos I have talked to work full-time/four days a week. From what I understand, it can be difficult to find a single office willing to pay five days a week for ortho (I'm not sure if this is true).

But it is interesting to hear how you have been hearing different numbers. The only time that I have heard it get into the $400k+ range is when it is owner-operated or in a less desirable location that has been struggling to find someone for years. For the most part, the orthodontists that I have talked to about income have practiced in the Midwest, too, so maybe it is a market thing. Plus, if you look on Indeed for job postings, the income range for the jobs for ortho is incredibly similar to GD, unlike OS, which has +$1M job opportunities as an employee lol. I still think you would be incredibly fortunate to find a job in a nice city/suburb that would pay $300k a year as a new grad ortho, but maybe I am wrong.


Are there any upcoming/recent grad orthos with insight on what to expect for income/job opportunities on here? It would be greatly appreciated!

 

[snailz]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8

 

[niko472]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02

 

[cowski]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02
5: 8/26 (email) Colorado, Interview 9/26, 9/27, 9/30

 

[sashapg]

Some schools have not yet reached their application deadlines, but they have already sent out interview invitations. Is it still worth applying?

 

[OrthoDonn]

Some schools have not yet reached their application deadlines, but they have already sent out interview invitations. Is it still worth applying?

I don't think it's worth applying. Better to save that money for the next round.

 

[sashapg]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02
5: 8/26 (email) Colorado, Interview 9/26, 9/27, 9/30

Seton Hill deadline is Sep 1, any idea if they are done sending interview invites or they might send more?

 

[youngpulp]

if we didn't receive an interview invite for schools that have already began sending them out, does that mean we have been rejected?

 

[Kliarin]

Oklahoma email invite, August 27. Interview dates of October 18th and 25th, social night before
Illinois, Chicago email invite, August 26. Interview dates October 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Social on October 1st and 2nd

 

[Kliarin]

I'm a GP (and practice owner), and I have been for several years here before applying to Ortho this round. GPs, with ownership, can make good money. Associates in corporate, can make good money -- but will be worked to the bone. Associate positions in private practice are hard to come by. Most GPs who own around me (Western states, not coast) make 275k+, with associates making $150K-200k+.

Ortho's don't make fantastic money as an associate. This is well known. It's on par with most GPs. Very few private practice owners take associates. Most are corporate, which are very heavily based on production. So if you have high production, work 6 days a week, you can make good money. But you will work hard for it. And there is very high turnover in these offices.

If you own, however, the income potential goes way up. Easily over 350K. Ownership, regardless of the field, results in higher income. But ownership has risks. Start ups result in **no money** for 2-3 years minimum (so you better have income elsewhere!), and can still fail. Buying a practice results in a drop in patients/referrals, and comes with its own set of problems.

Do not expect to get out of school, as a GP, or Ortho, making 200K. Ownership results in more money, but more risks. Location is everything. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

 

[Kliarin]

Also, rarely do you get a guaranteed salary as a GP, Ortho, OMFS, or anything else. You work off of production. You MAY get a 'daily guarantee', but that usually goes away after 3-4 months. This is to 'encourage' you to produce more. So any job posting on Indeed or anywhere else that posts salary -- that's not accurate. They are saying you have the 'Potential' to make that much. And even still, that's a complete guess. A 'great opportunity' may come with a horrible contract. Like if you don't produce enough, YOU pay the company the difference. I've seen amazing dentists get completely screwed by a horrible contract.

I've seen this game for a while now. Know how to read a contract, guys.

 

[cowski]

if we didn't receive an interview invite for schools that have already began sending them out, does that mean we have been rejected?

Most likely yes, but also not necessarily.. Inevitably interviews between schools are going to overlap and everybody can't make every interview. There may be candidates that end up not accepting certain interviews which opens up slots for others and the schools will then send a second batch of interview invites to fill the remaining slots. Happened to me for one school last year but that was it.

 

[youngpulp]

Most likely yes, but also not necessarily.. Inevitably interviews between schools are going to overlap and everybody can't make every interview. There may be candidates that end up not accepting certain interviews which opens up slots for others and the schools will then send a second batch of interview invites to fill the remaining slots. Happened to me for one school last year but that was it.

Thanks for the insight! gonna be a rough cycle for me 🫠

 

[snailz]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02
5. 8/26 (email) Colorado, Interview 9/26, 9/27, 9/30
6. 8/27 (email) Oklahoma, Interview 10/18,10/25, social night before

 

[Orthomaybe]

I'm a GP (and practice owner), and I have been for several years here before applying to Ortho this round. GPs, with ownership, can make good money. Associates in corporate, can make good money -- but will be worked to the bone. Associate positions in private practice are hard to come by. Most GPs who own around me (Western states, not coast) make 275k+, with associates making $150K-200k+.

Ortho's don't make fantastic money as an associate. This is well known. It's on par with most GPs. Very few private practice owners take associates. Most are corporate, which are very heavily based on production. So if you have high production, work 6 days a week, you can make good money. But you will work hard for it. And there is very high turnover in these offices.

If you own, however, the income potential goes way up. Easily over 350K. Ownership, regardless of the field, results in higher income. But ownership has risks. Start ups result in **no money** for 2-3 years minimum (so you better have income elsewhere!), and can still fail. Buying a practice results in a drop in patients/referrals, and comes with its own set of problems.

Do not expect to get out of school, as a GP, or Ortho, making 200K. Ownership results in more money, but more risks. Location is everything. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Interesting insight. Not yet an orthodontist obviously. I did work as a GP previously though.. right out of school 200k+ never drop below that (suburb location, not rural and near medium size city). I know that's considered great income for GP right out of school but a few of my friends who are GP are doing similarly as well.
On the topic of GP's income, obviously a rarer experience but I think its doable enough where I'm not the type to be crushing new grad GP's expectation.
So let me pick your brain then, If you are a practice owner (and obv "easily over 350k" like you said), Are you now planning to spend the extra cost of attendance and lost of income for 2-3yrs just to make under 200k after school?
It is definitively not well known ortho associate don't make good money lol. Just a bit confused how come literally every single source you can find has Ortho associates make more than GP associates.

 

[OncePreDent]

Just a bit confused how come literally every single source you can find has Ortho associates make more than GP associates.

I have to disagree with this from the orthodontists and general dentists that I have talked to who are associates and have never owned their own practice GD make around the same as orthos. Sure, orthodontist, you might make an extra $50k as an associate a year, but from what I have heard from people who have been GD and switched to Ortho, the income is about the same. The reason why they switched wasn't for the income but because they were far more passionate about ortho than GD. It would be best if you didn't go into ortho thinking you will make more money than as a GD; I believe the income is very comparable. If an individual is doing ortho because they are thinking they will make a ton more they are in the wrong field. OS would be the best field for someone who wants the highest income.

I asked a few more orthos I know what the typical income is for associates and it was in the ballpark I was saying earlier $250k-$300k. Additionally, you aren't typically paid on production as an orthodontist, usually a daily rate (sometimes bonuses for starts as well). Not a single one of them has seen a job as an associate at the $400k level that I talked to. You are probably talking to some of the top-tier orthos. But I am going into it thinking the income will be roughly $250k a year, at least in the beginning.

 

[Orthomaybe]

I asked a few more orthos I know what the typical income is for associates and it was in the ballpark I was saying earlier $250k-$300k. Additionally, you aren't typically paid on production as an orthodontist, usually a daily rate (sometimes bonuses for starts as well). Not a single one of them has seen a job as an associate at the $400k level that I talked to. You are probably talking to some of the top-tier orthos. But I am going into it thinking the income will be roughly $250k a year, at least in the beginning.

I'll even understand and accept what you said about roughly 250k-300k (because I know that's already borderline more than avg GP associate). I think with that, the reality might be somewhere between us then.. which I mean you'd rather be surprised and make more at the end of the day right? That other person is saying "do not even expect to make 200k out of school".. I mean that is quiet a different take. I guess to each their own, and hopefully we all end up having the income we desire.

 

[hopefullyfutureortho]

7. 8/29 (email) IUSD (Indiana), Interview 10/7, 10/8

 

[snailz]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02
5. 8/26 (email) Colorado, Interview 9/26, 9/27, 9/30
6. 8/27 (email) Oklahoma, Interview 10/18,10/25, social night before
7. 8/29 (email) IUSD (Indiana), Interview 10/7-10/8 (2-day interview)

 

[molarbearr]

@Orthomaybe and @OncePreDent take your debate elsewhere and quit blowing up the thread

 

[melrose112930]

On the note about match exclusive programs, most of the programs mention that they participate in match, but do not in their website further clarify if they participate in match only (exclusively) or not. Can we safely presume that these programs are okay with applicants to apply to both non-match and match programs?

Of course if the programs say that they only take applicants participating in match only, the answer is clear.

going off of this discussion, does anyone have a list of which schools exactly have said they are only taking match-exclusive applicants? I know Michigan is one of them

 

[sashapg]

Anyone here applied to Canadian school as well?

 

[hazz1122]

Anyone here applied to Canadian school as well?

I did, nothing yet.

 

[orthodream1]

It has been awfully quiet…

 

[dreamortho]

Hi everyone, is there anyone on here who has applied for Ortho programs who graduated from an Australian Dental School? Feels like a middle ground as although it is an international non-CODA accredited school, I am still a Canadian citizen and will be fully licensed in Canada after graduation provided I pass the boards. I have just spoken with the Dean today and he has informed me that the school does not give a class rank although I will have a GPA. Is it possible to have the institution evaluation form/Dean's Letter to only have GPA? Feel like for US schools its either GPA and Class rank or P/F. As well, is it worth it to do any externships to programs you are interested in? Many thanks.

 

[Lemillion]

It has been awfully quiet…

Typically, there will be a September wave once the app deadline closes! Or leading up to it.

 

[snailz]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02
5. 8/26 (email) Colorado, Interview 9/26, 9/27, 9/30
6. 8/27 (email) Oklahoma, Interview 10/18,10/25, social night before
7. 8/29 (email) IUSD (Indiana), Interview 10/7-10/8 (2-day interview)
8. 9/6/24 (Email) Tufts, interview dates 10/3 or 10/17. Socials on 10/2 or 10/16th

 

[orthododo]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02
5. 8/26 (email) Colorado, Interview 9/26, 9/27, 9/30
6. 8/27 (email) Oklahoma, Interview 10/18,10/25, social night before
7. 8/29 (email) IUSD (Indiana), Interview 10/7-10/8 (2-day interview)
8. 9/6/24 (Email) Tufts, interview dates 10/3 or 10/17. Socials on 10/2 or 10/16th
9. 9/6/24 (phone call) Michigan, interview 10/7 or 10/14. Socials on 10/6 or 10/13

 

[drtina.ortho]

9/6/24 (email) Touro interview dates 9/25,26 or 10/9,10 with social night before

 

[hazz1122]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02
5. 8/26 (email) Colorado, Interview 9/26, 9/27, 9/30
6. 8/27 (email) Oklahoma, Interview 10/18,10/25, social night before
7. 8/29 (email) IUSD (Indiana), Interview 10/7-10/8 (2-day interview)
8. 9/6/24 (Email) Tufts, interview dates 10/3 or 10/17. Socials on 10/2 or 10/16th
9. 9/6/24 (phone call) Michigan, interview 10/7 or 10/14. Socials on 10/6 or 10/13
10. 9/6/24 (Phone call) University of Tennessee interview dates 10/25 and 10/28 with socials the night before.
11. 9/6/24 (email) Touro interview dates 9/25,26 or 10/9,10 with social night before

 

[dent-ortho223]

Hi! Anyone heard anything about canadian schools?

 

[ebkara]

Do schools send rejection e-mails?

 

[cowski]

Do schools send rejection e-mails?

only very few

 

[toothwizzy2]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02
5. 8/26 (email) Colorado, Interview 9/26, 9/27, 9/30
6. 8/27 (email) Oklahoma, Interview 10/18,10/25, social night before
7. 8/29 (email) IUSD (Indiana), Interview 10/7-10/8 (2-day interview)
8. 9/6/24 (Email) Tufts, interview dates 10/3 or 10/17. Socials on 10/2 or 10/16th
9. 9/6/24 (phone call) Michigan, interview 10/7 or 10/14. Socials on 10/6 or 10/13
10. 9/6/24 (Phone call) University of Tennessee interview dates 10/25 and 10/28 with socials the night before.
11. 9/6/24 (email) Touro interview dates 9/25,26 or 10/9,10 with social night before
12. 9/9/24 (email) UT Health Houston interview dates 10/17 or 10/18 with socials night before.

 

[TheGrain]

Do ortho residencies typically only send one round of interview invites or do they send more interview invites as spots open up as people accept or decline invitations?

 

[melrose112930]

9/9 (email) UNMC interview 10/7 or 10/8 with social the night before.

Same dates as Indiana unfortunately. How feasible is it to try to go to both and skip the social?

 

[hazz1122]

1. 8/12 (email) Iowa, Interview 9/27 with a social on 9/26
2. 8/21 (email) Seton Hill, Interview 9/20 with a social on 9/19
3. 8/23 (email) St. Barnabas Hospital, Interview 10/9 with a social on 10/8
4. 8/26 (email) UIC, interview 10/01, 10/02, 10/03, with social 10/01 or 10/02
5. 8/26 (email) Colorado, Interview 9/26, 9/27, 9/30
6. 8/27 (email) Oklahoma, Interview 10/18,10/25, social night before
7. 8/29 (email) IUSD (Indiana), Interview 10/7-10/8 (2-day interview)
8. 9/6/24 (Email) Tufts, interview dates 10/3 or 10/17. Socials on 10/2 or 10/16th
9. 9/6/24 (phone call) Michigan, interview 10/7 or 10/14. Socials on 10/6 or 10/13
10. 9/6/24 (Phone call) University of Tennessee interview dates 10/25 and 10/28 with socials the night before.
11. 9/6/24 (email) Touro interview dates 9/25,26 or 10/9,10 with social night before
12. 9/9/24 (email) UT Health Houston interview dates 10/17 or 10/18 with socials night before
13. 9/9 (email) UNMC interview 10/7 or 10/8 with social the night before.