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Do all the results not get released at the same time? Or does it depend on the date you took it?
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Last year the scores rolled in over a few days
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Results are in. Is it alphabetical? My last name is at the front of the alphabet.
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Don't think so. I'm at the front as well and my friend with a similar last name didn't get their results yet.
 
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Just got my results (10/18 23:00). Passed.
 
Passed! Here’s to hoping for good news for those that haven’t heard yet.

FWIW I only did questions MKSAP 17. Did well on ITEs during residency. It’s a tough test that definitely deserves preparation, but not insurmountable
 
Passed!

Failed in the past (barely) using usual methods-MKSAP, UW, etc. Studied this time (for same duration-about 8 months) and only used MedStudy (full online course and qbank) and First Aid for ABIM-First Aid is an amazing book that I picked up kind of randomly and loved it. Was my primary review tool.
Passed this time-score 1 s.d. above the mean. Compared to prior attempt I killed it! I focused on the RANDOM LOW-CLINICAL-YEILD JUNK this time around (see my previous post if you have time to read). I am PROOF that this exam is a garbage Trivial Pursuit affair.

My advice to future test takers-focus on the JUNK. Read about the things you've never seen and probably won't ever see. Don't be a Slurper. Get involved, go to ABIM meetings, let's try to force these punks to make this experience better.

To those of you who failed, despair not. You're no less than anyone else who passed (and probably better than the Slurpers who think that this test actually matters). Hunker down, change your study method, you will beat this thing.

Fat Man, signing off now to search out MY BIG FORTOONA IN HOLLYWOOD, BABY!!!

Addendum-
HAHAHAHAHAHA now my hospital has to pay my an extra $12,000 per year as per my contract but they still have the same exact doctor HAHAHAHAHA JOKE'S ON THEM!!!!!!!!!
 
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Passed. I finished residency in 2012, failed that year, focused on cardiology fellowship, and tried again in 2015. Failed again. Had not studied with consistent effort. This year I took a month off work and studied Board Basics and MKSAP questions with explanation. 7-8 hours a day. Panicked a couple of days before exam and lost precious time, so barely skimmed Hematology and Neurology. Had gone over everything else twice. Walked out of the exam feeling fairly confident.

If I could pass this exam after studying for just a month, 6 years after residency and practicing only cardiology since then, BELIEVE me, you can too. Never give up. Try, and try again.
 
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Passed, first attempt. Only used MKSAP board basics book and MKSAP questions, studied for 6 months prior to the exam, wanted to do a different Qbank but run out of time. I felt like I memorized MKSAP questions by the end of study time. I had low scores on all my ITEs (10th percentile as R3, yikes), so was really worried, but passed comfortably. So glad this is over.
 
Passed. First attempt. Just used UWorld. Thought it was very helpful. Still loads of stuff on the boards outside of that content though. In retrospect would have probably read through BoardBasics or something similar in addition.

Congrats everyone!


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Passed also. First attempt. I used MKSAP 17 throughout residency then did my incorrects until I got them all right. Also got UWorld 1 month prior to my exam, finished it, then did incorrects until all done. Read BB x 1 then re-read a few sections I felt really weak on.


Good luck everyone who are still waiting and congratulations to those who are done!
 
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i passed. at long last my nightmare is over. i failed this beast a few times, and really thought i would never pass it. i've always been a terrible test taker. i really put in the effort this time. i read the medstudy books once. way too much information to absorb so i never touched it again. though i think it is an excellent general resource. but i did start doing questions. i started with uworld. did the entire bank in tutor mode about 20-50 questions at a time. i only did uworld bank once and scored 55% which was the mean. then i started reviewing the board basics 4 book. i read that a total of 3 times, which i thought was super high yield. once that was done i did the mksap 17 qbank. my first pass was 70%. My second pass was 90%. i thought the mksap17 questions were ok for test of knowledge, but not really a good representation of the actual exam. i also did about 1000 questions from the medstudy qbank, which IMHO were way too easy as i averaged 81%, so i stopped using it. if i had to do it over again: i'd read the board basics book as many times as possible (no less than 4 times), and do the uworld qbank at least twice. this exam can be conquered!
 
Failed, improved over prior attempts, but still well below the curve (339)

Guess MKSAP and BB are not enough on their own, at least not for me. I knew all of MKSAP 17 questions very well walking into that exam. Maybe it was because I didn't sleep well the night before (probably only got about 4 hours total). Who knows. Doesn't really matter at this point.

I get one more shot at this test next year if I decide to retry because I'm 7 years out of residency and 2019 is the last year I'll be allowed to sit for it. I'm a little too upset at the moment to decide what I want to do, but I'm just not sure I want to waste anymore of my life on this test. Part of me wants to do it just to prove that I can and part of me wants to walk away from medicine completely and never look back. Despite being quite good at my job, I'm left feeling inferior to my peers over this test. And that sucks because many of my board certified peers suck at their job. Not only this, but my job security is completely gone. The hospitalist group I work for no longer staffs any hospitals that don't require boards, so I'm basically unemployed with them. I knew this was coming and I've prepared a back up by getting a job with another company, but that hospital could end up requiring boards too, so I don't feel secure there either. This is where we are as a profession. If you're not board certified, you're unemployed. I don't want to spend the rest of my life always being afraid of a change in medical staff requirements. And I don't know if I want to spend the next 10 months of my life stressing over studying for it again. I have a 3 week old daughter now (my first) and the next 10 months of her life will basically be ignored if I have to study for this again. I just don't know if it's worth it to sacrifice any more of my time on this.

Despite all of these negative thoughts, I also feel like I know I can pass this stupid thing. I still believe it's a random trivia game that I just haven't gotten the hang of yet. There's absolutely no thinking involved. You memorize and spit it back out. I do feel like if I had had enough time to go through a second set of questions other than MKSAP, I could have raised my score enough to pass. I also feel like the flash cards I made in the last week helped, so if I had done more of that sort of thing earlier, maybe it would have stuck. But, god, the thought of going through all of that again is just gut wrenching. I just don't know if I can do it. I spent so much time just sitting on my ass in front of a computer screen this year just wasting my life away. I just don't know if I can do it again.

I've got some soul searching to do over the next few weeks or so.
 
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Passed! Who's genius idea is it to release results at midnight??

Glad this is over!
 
Passed! Woohoo!

I'm two years out from residency (in my third year of fellowship), and literally just did Board Basics, MKSAP 17 questions (all of them) and about 200 UWorld questions over the 3-4 months prior to the boards.

SOOOO glad to never have to do that awful test again! Specialist boards only from now on!
 
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Just got the results. I passed.

UWorld x 3. Then re-did all the ones I missed until I got all the questions correct. Took a while.
Board basics x 3.
Awesome Review.

This test is hard, but if you put in the time, then you can pass it.

Message me for more details.
 
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Passed.

ITE Results were 50+ percentile all 3 years of residency

Studied ~2.5 weeks with MKSAP + annotating Board Basics, finished all the questions x1 (I will say I wish I would have studied longer for peace of mind). Had ~70% correct on the MKSAP Qbank.

ABIM Score: > 600

Soooo relieved. I think MKSAP + Board Basics is definitely sufficient, but don't pay too much attention to the subject emphases of the MSKAP questions.
 
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Passed! MKSAP17 x2, BB x1, custom flashcards.

Best of luck to those still waiting.
 
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Passed!!

Writing this post for anyone who reads this next year after taking the test feeling absolutely awful and thinking they failed. That's exactly how I felt too- incredibly defeated and certain I made way too many dumb mistakes to pass. I just found out I passed comfortably with over 1 SD above the mean. The test certainly requires preparation but I think it's designed in such a way that you won't walk out feeling like a champion.

For the record, I did have good ITE scores-- 91/92/83rd percentile. I prepared almost exclusively with MKSAP but my percent correct was not very good the first round (maybe around 68%) then around 76% the 2nd round. I sort of read the full set of books over the course of residency and read through boards basics twice leading up to the test.

All the best to those still waiting for their scores.
 
Passed. For reference, passing score = 371, mean score = 501, my score > mean score. No one method to study - I personally did MKSAP 17 twice but I know of people (some did better and some did worse) who did MKSAP 17 twice *and* UWorld so it just comes down to personal studying style. If I could do this all over again, I would definitely invest more time in MKSAP 17 Board Basics. Good luck!
 
Passed, and really didn't think I was going to.

How are people finding their actual scores? I can't seem to find it anywhere
 
csnitchl said:
Passed, and really didn't think I was going to.

How are people finding their actual scores? I can't seem to find it anywhere
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When you login to the Physiaicn Portal, go to "My Exams" and your score report is inside that tab (should be a button to the right of "Pass")
 
Beacopp665 said:
Passed! Here’s to hoping for good news for those that haven’t heard yet.

FWIW I only did questions MKSAP 17. Did well on ITEs during residency. It’s a tough test that definitely deserves preparation, but not insurmountable
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Passed!!!! Holy cow!!!!

Did the same study prep as above. Exam is not insurmountable I guess, though for sure not the way I felt coming out of it. I still think was a load of irrrelevant to daily practice stuff what they tested.

Congrats all!!!

***ALSO THEY MISSED ONE LETTER OUT OF PART OF MY NAME. COME ON. I PAID OVER 1K FOR THIS EXAM
 
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Passed in 600s. Study method: about 3 weeks out started doing questions daily, mksap qbank X 1 (about 65% correct) and then half of uworld qbank. Didn’t read anything. I think uworld definitely helped me more and was more like the test - I wished I had done that one completely. ITEs were 70s-80s percentile. Step scores 140s-160s. MCAT mid 30s. How many tests have we had to take to be a doctor so far? Hope this helps.

Truthfully, I feel like I only passed through test taking skills and long term learning through seeing patients and residency, I probably didn’t learn too much in the weeks leading up to it.
 
I haven't posted here in years, but just wanted to let it out somewhere that I PASSED! I still think this whole board certification business is a sham and the degree to which it affects our careers and livelihoods is ridiculous, especially after completing a residency. I started my first job as a hospitalist a month before I even took the exam, and I wasn't any less of a doctor at that time. I just can't see how they can justify the existence of the exam besides to make money or why any employer should require it.

And for the curious:
I am not a great standardized test taker. I never failed any of the USMLE or COMLEX exams (I took USMLE 1-2, COMLEX 1-3) but I didn't score anything special, and I did pretty poorly on my 1st and 3rd year ITE exams, 2nd year was OK but not great.
I used Medstudy (completed all online videos) and NEJM Q bank (did like 1000 questions) during my "dedicated study" time and MKSAP 16-17 throughout residency (it was required).

And to those who may have failed: Keep your chin up. You are not any less of a physician because of this idiotic exam. You survived residency which speaks more about your qualifications than this money-grabbing test. Don't let this exam hold you back. If you plan to re-take it, I wish you the best of luck. It can be done and one day you will look back at this exam as a small blip on your career.
 
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First pass.

Mksap x 2 and uworld.
Passed by the skin of my teeth!
 
Passed.... killed it. Just did mksap once all I had time for
 
Nailed it... 621, bye bye ABIM for at least for 10 years. Busy starting hem/onc fellowship was barely studying...
 
jacksparrow82 said:
Failed, improved over prior attempts, but still well below the curve (339)

Guess MKSAP and BB are not enough on their own, at least not for me. I knew all of MKSAP 17 questions very well walking into that exam. Maybe it was because I didn't sleep well the night before (probably only got about 4 hours total). Who knows. Doesn't really matter at this point.

I get one more shot at this test next year if I decide to retry because I'm 7 years out of residency and 2019 is the last year I'll be allowed to sit for it. I'm a little too upset at the moment to decide what I want to do, but I'm just not sure I want to waste anymore of my life on this test. Part of me wants to do it just to prove that I can and part of me wants to walk away from medicine completely and never look back. Despite being quite good at my job, I'm left feeling inferior to my peers over this test. And that sucks because many of my board certified peers suck at their job. Not only this, but my job security is completely gone. The hospitalist group I work for no longer staffs any hospitals that don't require boards, so I'm basically unemployed with them. I knew this was coming and I've prepared a back up by getting a job with another company, but that hospital could end up requiring boards too, so I don't feel secure there either. This is where we are as a profession. If you're not board certified, you're unemployed. I don't want to spend the rest of my life always being afraid of a change in medical staff requirements. And I don't know if I want to spend the next 10 months of my life stressing over studying for it again. I have a 3 week old daughter now (my first) and the next 10 months of her life will basically be ignored if I have to study for this again. I just don't know if it's worth it to sacrifice any more of my time on this.

Despite all of these negative thoughts, I also feel like I know I can pass this stupid thing. I still believe it's a random trivia game that I just haven't gotten the hang of yet. There's absolutely no thinking involved. You memorize and spit it back out. I do feel like if I had had enough time to go through a second set of questions other than MKSAP, I could have raised my score enough to pass. I also feel like the flash cards I made in the last week helped, so if I had done more of that sort of thing earlier, maybe it would have stuck. But, god, the thought of going through all of that again is just gut wrenching. I just don't know if I can do it. I spent so much time just sitting on my ass in front of a computer screen this year just wasting my life away. I just don't know if I can do it again.

I've got some soul searching to do over the next few weeks or so.
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I hope all goes well with you. I’ve been down that road and FINALLY passed this year. Had I not passed I would have to do another year of residency according to ABIM rules. FYI, I finished residency 2010... Failed twice immediately after. Took a year off to not take test. Tried to take a test following year only to have Mother Nature postpone my plans. Waiting on retaking test a few years and found out I still can’t pass. I had done MKSAP and MEDSTUDY videos at those times. Only took 1-2 weeks off to study prior to test at that time in a busy practice. Historically, I’m not a good test taker. Had to take STEP 1 twice, granted computer froze while I took 1st test. Then had to take STEP 2 twice as someone sat in my chair while I was out on break and ended up missing passing by a few points... Did pass STEP 3 on 1st try. Never scored higher than 20%-tile in ITE exams. This time in addition to MKSAP x2 (8 months) and MEDSTUDY x2 (8 months), I attended an ACP live board review class; and lastly took 1 whole month of “vacation” visits to local cafe to study instead of working. Basically my career and family livelihood laid in my hands with this test so I brought out almost everything including kitchen sink. My employer was gracious enough to continue paying me salary despite not working. I hope you are able to have such good support. Good luck. Also I found prayer to be very helpful. As someone who finally passed despite many failures, it makes the feeling even sweeter than had I not suffered though I’d rather not have but this puts perspective and led to greater appreciation for all the “other things” such as family.
 
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Failed for the 2nd time and only by 2 points (score 369). Improvement from previous.

Is there any point in rescoring? is that an option?
 
If anyone is curious, Search Results | ABIM.org seems to have not been updated for anyone who took it this year - even folks who got a passing score already aren't up on that site yet.

That's a first - the last few years the public search was actually updated before the individual score reports came out.
 
Passed, first attempt, score > 700. ITE during residency >90th percentile each year. Did MKSAP 17 only, mostly before fellowship got started this summer. Happy to not have to do this one again.
 
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My actual score is still not available, but not to worry, the payment section for future MOC is up and running.
 
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I failed. did really poorly. I was doing okay on mksap 65-70 %. But i work nights n felt sleepy throughout the exams. Could barely finish each section. I'm really worried about my job security as most places need certification. Don't know if i can do this exams in the evening shift.
 
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Failed for the 2nd time and only by 2 points (score 369). Improvement from previous.

Is there any point in rescoring? is that an option?
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Being that close - may give you peace of mind but i don't think it will change anything. They need a certain number of people to fail.
 
I am a very bad test taker but somehow passed. Also didn't use any of the books too because ran out of time...I started reading BB for just knowledge enhancement after the test and found it to be a really good resource tbh.

I think the most predictive is probably your past performance on ITEs (just like that famed calculator online by Cleveland Clinic). If you breezed through them, I think you can pass this with very little preparation. If you struggled like me (< 30 percentile), you WILL have to study and apply yourself. MKSAP I thought was great, UW less honestly. I would save that self assessment thing in MKSAP till the very END and use that as an honest assessment of how you stand like 1-2 weeks before the test. If you score close to the average bars or higher, I think you should be fine. Since we're all just aiming to pass here, that will probably be the best gauge as it is the only thing that mimics a practice exam that we have access to.

Good luck to all who still have to face this. Just as a friendly reminder, if you're enrolled in fellowship and plan on taking your subspecialty boards in the next 5 years, passing it will equal the 100 MOC points you need!
 
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Failed for the 2nd time and only by 2 points (score 369). Improvement from previous.

Is there any point in rescoring? is that an option?
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I did this too as I was single digits from passing on one of my tests. Prolonged my suffering and didn’t work out for me; but if you’d like a fighting chance FEELING, go for it.
 
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Raryn said:
If anyone is curious, Search Results | ABIM.org seems to have not been updated for anyone who took it this year - even folks who got a passing score already aren't up on that site yet.

That's a first - the last few years the public search was actually updated before the individual score reports came out.
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Can confirm -- it wasn't updated last night for most of me and my friends despite getting the email but it was all updated this morning.
 
I passed thank God!
Thanks for everyone's Support in this forum. Congratulations to those who passed.
For those who didn’t, please please take a break. You can definitely do it. I’m a poor test taker too, but this is doable. Here’s my details:

I just finished Geri fellowship.
ITEs:
1st and 3rd 25 percentile. 2nd: 4th or something.
I barely passed my usmles and had an attempt on ck.
I did UW over and over. Did a couple sections of BB ( I’d do it if I had more time).
I also did awesome review, and read the notes a couple of times. Not so much MKSAP.
For those of us who just don’t do well in tests, you can’t wing this but TOTALLY doable.

Good luck to all!
 
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Passed!

Wanted to provide another data point for future test takers.

I did below average on ITEs scoring around 40th percentile all three years. Didn't really take them seriously.

Did MKSAP in the 2nd half of R3 scoring around 60% and did incorrects in June. Used Uworld 2 months out and hovered around average of 55%. Did incorrects after that. 2 weeks prior to exam I reset the Uworld bank and did blocks of random questions and finished at 80%. I tried reading board basics but got too tired. If I could redo it all I would've tried memorizing it as others have. Lastly 3 days prior to the test I took the MKSAP assessment which reflected where I ended up being compared to the average on the real thing.
 
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Semi-humble brag, but honest to goodness just don't know.

I scored extremely well on the ITE in both my intern and 2nd year. How should I study for the ABIM? Uworld only? MKSAP only? Both? Boards and beyond? Help me spend my money appropriately. FWIW, my worst category was still >70th percentile.
 
you would probably pass with minimal revision; however not worth risking and regretting. I recommend to do a question bank of your choice: mksap or UW.
 
Nonkiboy said:
I hope all goes well with you. I’ve been down that road and FINALLY passed this year. Had I not passed I would have to do another year of residency according to ABIM rules. FYI, I finished residency 2010... Failed twice immediately after. Took a year off to not take test. Tried to take a test following year only to have Mother Nature postpone my plans. Waiting on retaking test a few years and found out I still can’t pass. I had done MKSAP and MEDSTUDY videos at those times. Only took 1-2 weeks off to study prior to test at that time in a busy practice. Historically, I’m not a good test taker. Had to take STEP 1 twice, granted computer froze while I took 1st test. Then had to take STEP 2 twice as someone sat in my chair while I was out on break and ended up missing passing by a few points... Did pass STEP 3 on 1st try. Never scored higher than 20%-tile in ITE exams. This time in addition to MKSAP x2 (8 months) and MEDSTUDY x2 (8 months), I attended an ACP live board review class; and lastly took 1 whole month of “vacation” visits to local cafe to study instead of working. Basically my career and family livelihood laid in my hands with this test so I brought out almost everything including kitchen sink. My employer was gracious enough to continue paying me salary despite not working. I hope you are able to have such good support. Good luck. Also I found prayer to be very helpful. As someone who finally passed despite many failures, it makes the feeling even sweeter than had I not suffered though I’d rather not have but this puts perspective and led to greater appreciation for all the “other things” such as family.
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Question because I am in a similar boat. Finished residency in 2011, bunch of fails. They let you take the test 8 years after finishing? I thought it was 7 years. Does the 7 year eligibility begin after July 2012?
 
jacksparrow82 said:
Failed, improved over prior attempts, but still well below the curve (339)

Guess MKSAP and BB are not enough on their own, at least not for me. I knew all of MKSAP 17 questions very well walking into that exam. Maybe it was because I didn't sleep well the night before (probably only got about 4 hours total). Who knows. Doesn't really matter at this point.

I get one more shot at this test next year if I decide to retry because I'm 7 years out of residency and 2019 is the last year I'll be allowed to sit for it. I'm a little too upset at the moment to decide what I want to do, but I'm just not sure I want to waste anymore of my life on this test. Part of me wants to do it just to prove that I can and part of me wants to walk away from medicine completely and never look back. Despite being quite good at my job, I'm left feeling inferior to my peers over this test. And that sucks because many of my board certified peers suck at their job. Not only this, but my job security is completely gone. The hospitalist group I work for no longer staffs any hospitals that don't require boards, so I'm basically unemployed with them. I knew this was coming and I've prepared a back up by getting a job with another company, but that hospital could end up requiring boards too, so I don't feel secure there either. This is where we are as a profession. If you're not board certified, you're unemployed. I don't want to spend the rest of my life always being afraid of a change in medical staff requirements. And I don't know if I want to spend the next 10 months of my life stressing over studying for it again. I have a 3 week old daughter now (my first) and the next 10 months of her life will basically be ignored if I have to study for this again. I just don't know if it's worth it to sacrifice any more of my time on this.

Despite all of these negative thoughts, I also feel like I know I can pass this stupid thing. I still believe it's a random trivia game that I just haven't gotten the hang of yet. There's absolutely no thinking involved. You memorize and spit it back out. I do feel like if I had had enough time to go through a second set of questions other than MKSAP, I could have raised my score enough to pass. I also feel like the flash cards I made in the last week helped, so if I had done more of that sort of thing earlier, maybe it would have stuck. But, god, the thought of going through all of that again is just gut wrenching. I just don't know if I can do it. I spent so much time just sitting on my ass in front of a computer screen this year just wasting my life away. I just don't know if I can do it again.

I've got some soul searching to do over the next few weeks or so.
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Sorry to hear about your troubles. Don't give up! I know you will make it. If you don’t mind, couple questions...what year did you graduate residency? And any hints/tips on how to find hospital/clinic positions that don’t require Board certification?
 
throwaway1939 said:
Semi-humble brag, but honest to goodness just don't know.

I scored extremely well on the ITE in both my intern and 2nd year. How should I study for the ABIM? Uworld only? MKSAP only? Both? Boards and beyond? Help me spend my money appropriately. FWIW, my worst category was still >70th percentile.
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I scored in the 99th percentile all 3 years. Spent a month doing UW before the test - felt like a waste of time. Got 800 (max score) on the Board. The bar is very low. In reality, you don't need to prepare if your knowledge is solid. Do UW for psychological comfort.
 
throwaway1939 said:
Semi-humble brag, but honest to goodness just don't know.

I scored extremely well on the ITE in both my intern and 2nd year. How should I study for the ABIM? Uworld only? MKSAP only? Both? Boards and beyond? Help me spend my money appropriately. FWIW, my worst category was still >70th percentile.
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I think you will do well. I would stick with just one resource. Mksap is probably the way to go. I thought the mksap questions were slightly harder than the actual test. I liked using the text for a quick reference. Use the ITE score reports to hone in on your weak subjects.

Square[] said:
I scored in the 99th percentile all 3 years. Spent a month doing UW before the test - felt like a waste of time. Got 800 (max score) on the Board. The bar is very low. In reality, you don't need to prepare if your knowledge is solid. Do UW for psychological comfort.
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I don’t know why you had to be so abrasive. It kinda sounded like the person you responded to was honestly lost about which resource to use and wanted to optimize his spending and time.
 
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