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My Name is Dr. Jafri,

I am an internal medicine faculty physician passed my boards last year. I teach board review to our residents biweekly looking to expand for those interested online. Since I am first starting looking to offer online sessions to teach topics as a free resource and if interest level there afterwards can try to expand it further!

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There is no way to sugarcoat this. I failed this exam. My score 359. Passing score was 371. I mainly used MKSAP and Board Basics. I really thought I would not take this exam again. Heck with it, I will remain a board uncertified physician. Preparing for this exam means a lot of sacrifice on my family's part.

However, I see that I do have two more attempts left to pass this exam. Please tell me if this might help me better next year: I am going to use UWORLD primarily. I will also use MKSAP 18 and Board Basics.

Sitting in that exam room feels like worse than anything else I have ever experience. Tell me what I need to do so that I have to experience that feeling of sitting in that exam room for 8 hours just once more.

I think the testing center people know me by the first name now.


Please read my comments. I was in a similar situation that you are. My suggestions will help. Do online flashcards-( know-med-ge). Please let me know if you need help.
 
Failed, improved over prior attempts, but still well below the curve (339)

Guess MKSAP and BB are not enough on their own, at least not for me. I knew all of MKSAP 17 questions very well walking into that exam. Maybe it was because I didn't sleep well the night before (probably only got about 4 hours total). Who knows. Doesn't really matter at this point.

I get one more shot at this test next year if I decide to retry because I'm 7 years out of residency and 2019 is the last year I'll be allowed to sit for it. I'm a little too upset at the moment to decide what I want to do, but I'm just not sure I want to waste anymore of my life on this test. Part of me wants to do it just to prove that I can and part of me wants to walk away from medicine completely and never look back. Despite being quite good at my job, I'm left feeling inferior to my peers over this test. And that sucks because many of my board certified peers suck at their job. Not only this, but my job security is completely gone. The hospitalist group I work for no longer staffs any hospitals that don't require boards, so I'm basically unemployed with them. I knew this was coming and I've prepared a back up by getting a job with another company, but that hospital could end up requiring boards too, so I don't feel secure there either. This is where we are as a profession. If you're not board certified, you're unemployed. I don't want to spend the rest of my life always being afraid of a change in medical staff requirements. And I don't know if I want to spend the next 10 months of my life stressing over studying for it again. I have a 3 week old daughter now (my first) and the next 10 months of her life will basically be ignored if I have to study for this again. I just don't know if it's worth it to sacrifice any more of my time on this.

Despite all of these negative thoughts, I also feel like I know I can pass this stupid thing. I still believe it's a random trivia game that I just haven't gotten the hang of yet. There's absolutely no thinking involved. You memorize and spit it back out. I do feel like if I had had enough time to go through a second set of questions other than MKSAP, I could have raised my score enough to pass. I also feel like the flash cards I made in the last week helped, so if I had done more of that sort of thing earlier, maybe it would have stuck. But, god, the thought of going through all of that again is just gut wrenching. I just don't know if I can do it. I spent so much time just sitting on my ass in front of a computer screen this year just wasting my life away. I just don't know if I can do it again.

I've got some soul searching to do over the next few weeks or so.


Hey Sir.... Please don't get discouraged. I was in a similar situation and I am replying so that I can pay it forward. Please refer to my post. Flashcards(online) in know-me-dge really helped me. YOU CAN DO IT. Please let me know if you need any help.
 
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My study schedule was based around Medstudy, with additional supplements from MKSAP. I took this exam 2 years out of residency. I put zero effort into studying or preparation as a resident as I had planned on changing specialties and doing another residency, which unfortunately didn’t happen.

Being stuck in Internal Medicine, my study schedule was limited by being very busy as a hospitalist.

I studied from 8 PM until about 2 AM 5-7 night per week. I spent a week on each subject (e.g hematology, Pulm, CC, General IM, etc) during that time I did every Med study question in study mode, and reviewed all answer explanations whether I got it right or wrong. This allowed me to make 2-3 note cards per questions hitting important knowledge points. I highlighted the top of each note card with a different color highlighter based on subject to allow me to color code the cards to easily identify them when they are in a stack. (Nephro = yellow, Pulm = blue, etc). This was helpful because of the large volume of note cards I produced it helped me to stay organized.

I spent 1-2 hours each night watching med study lectures as well.

Throughout my study period I would tape high yield note cards to the walls in my house, again divided by subject, so I would see them frequently as I walked by.

I spent all summer doing this. I was miserable and tired but it worked and I did well.

Don’t believe the posts in this thread saying you only need a few weeks to prepare. This is very poor and misleading advice that does not apply to most people. Study hard for this disgrace of an exam.

My proudest moment was receiving my board certification certificate in the mail and putting it into my paper shredder. I will never display it. I am wholeheartedly against this being a requirement.

Best of luck.

Thank you!!
 
Does anyone know if Satish Dhalla has retired his Unique Board Review? I took it a few years ago, and it was great. I've recommended it to quite a few people over the years - but looks like it's not around. Anyone know if it will be back?
 
Hello, I saw your post from October 25, 2017 when you got an indeterminate result on your ABIM Internal Medicine Exam and they e-mailed you a letter describing the test conditions in Williamsville, NY and indicating that you have a INDETERMINATE(IND) RESULT AND YOUR REMEDY EXPLAINED IN THE E-MAIL TO YOU FROM ABIM WAS TO RETAKE THE EXAM AT NEXT ADMINISTRATION FOR NO ADDITIONAL COST OR TO GET REFUNDED THE COST OF THE EXAM. YESTERDAY, I received a IND RESULT ON MY internal medicine MOC 10 year recertification exam and this was due to TECHNOLOGY ISSUES AND SOFTWARE ISSUES AT PEARSONVUE WITH UPTODATE RESOURCE DELAYS WITH CONCOMITANT CLOCK TICKING WHILE IT TOOK SIGNIFICANT TIME FROM WHEN I CLICKED UPTODATE ICON TO WHEN IT WOULD SHOW UP ON SCREEN(CLOCK IS SUPPOSED TO FREEZE AND NOT TICK DURING THESE GAPS AFTER CLICKING UPTODATE LINK). IN ADDITION, MY COMPUTER LOG-OFF SEVERAL TIMES AND I NEEDED THE PROCTOR TO REBOOT AND RESTART EXAM. HENCE, ABIM HAS GIVEN ME AN IND RESULT WITH A FAIL SCORE. I DID NOT HOWEVER RECEIVE ANY E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE LIKE YOU DID IN 2017 ABOUT THIS AND I ONLY DISCOVERED THIS FROM LOGGING INTO MY ABIM ACCOUNT AND GETTING MY RESULT. THERE IS NO EXPLANATION ON THE WEBSITE ON ANYTHING TO DO WITH INDETERMINATE RESULT AND USING A SEARCH ENGINE I CAME ACROSS YOUR POSTING WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL. I NEEDED TO PASS THIS EXAM TO MAINTAIN MY CERTIFCATOIN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. I CALLED ABIM TODAY AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM LISTED AS BOARD CERTIFIED IN 2019 SINCE THIS TECHNOLOGY ERROR ISSUE IS NOT MY FAULT AND THEY ESSENTIALLY ADMITTED TO ME OVER THE PHONE TODAY THAT IT IS THEIR FAULT AND THEY HAVE OFFERED A RE-EXAM OPTION OR REFUND OPTION. I HAVE OPTED TO RE-EXAM. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE SAID I WILL BE LISTED AS NOT CERTIFIED NOT AFTER JANUARY 1, 2019. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND AGAINST LOGIC GIVEN THAT THEY ARE CULPABLE FOR THIS RESULT WITH AN IND RESULT. THEY OFFERED THE E-MAIL OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION, DR. RICHARD BARON, AND I WILL BE E-MAILNG HIM SHORTLY. YOU MAY KNOW NOW THAT THERE IS A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT FROM PHYSICIANS AGAINST ABIM THAT IS BASED ON OTHER MOC CERTIFICATION ISSSUES. I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW YOUR ENCOUNTER AND ISSUE PLAYED OUT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE IS NOT ONE WORLD OF "INDETERMINATE RESULT OR IND" ON THE ABIM POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WEBSITE. THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.










This is the letter:
ABIM conducted a thorough investigation of your examination experience at the Pearson VUE test center in Williamsville, NY while taking the Summer 2017 Internal Medicine Certification Exam. The proctor at the test center where you took your exam reported “Construction/remodeling noise (sawing, hammering, etc.) occurring off and on in test center office building starting at approximately 9:48 am and continuing throughout day.” Research into this issue revealed that the noise distractions from the construction were severe and, in most cases, not eliminated using the noise cancelling headphones or earplugs. We have therefore determined that the administration of your examination did not meet ABIM standards and apologize for any anxiety and inconvenience that you may have experienced.



ABIM is working to provide candidates with examination feedback as soon as possible. You will receive email notification once your results are available to you through your secure physician portal.



Since this exam administration did not meet ABIM’s expectations, your result for the Summer 2017 examination will be recorded as “Indeterminate” (IND). In addition, ABIM is offering you the option to either take the next administration of the examination at no charge or receive a full refund of this administration. Below are the options made available to you. Please respond to this email with your preferred option:
 
Well, my oncology friend, what do you think of this quagmire after I have told you the story. Basically, American Board of internal medicine, is responsible for this indeterminate result and they are attributing that to the technology issues that occurred during my exam sessions. Thus, my board certification should remain intact until the results of my next potential exam administration which they are offeringMe at no cost. What is your thoughts on the situation?


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I really would like to know what happened to the Unique Review Course by Dr. Satish Dhalla. I really wanted to take the course to prepare for the ABIM certification exam.

The website is now gone. I even sent them an email but it was returned to sender. ☹️

Does anybody know what happened? And since it appears to no longer be offered, does anybody have the course text available for sale?


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Hello, I saw your post from October 25, 2017 when you got an indeterminate result on your ABIM Internal Medicine Exam and they e-mailed you a letter describing the test conditions in Williamsville, NY and indicating that you have a INDETERMINATE(IND) RESULT AND YOUR REMEDY EXPLAINED IN THE E-MAIL TO YOU FROM ABIM WAS TO RETAKE THE EXAM AT NEXT ADMINISTRATION FOR NO ADDITIONAL COST OR TO GET REFUNDED THE COST OF THE EXAM. YESTERDAY, I received a IND RESULT ON MY internal medicine MOC 10 year recertification exam and this was due to TECHNOLOGY ISSUES AND SOFTWARE ISSUES AT PEARSONVUE WITH UPTODATE RESOURCE DELAYS WITH CONCOMITANT CLOCK TICKING WHILE IT TOOK SIGNIFICANT TIME FROM WHEN I CLICKED UPTODATE ICON TO WHEN IT WOULD SHOW UP ON SCREEN(CLOCK IS SUPPOSED TO FREEZE AND NOT TICK DURING THESE GAPS AFTER CLICKING UPTODATE LINK). IN ADDITION, MY COMPUTER LOG-OFF SEVERAL TIMES AND I NEEDED THE PROCTOR TO REBOOT AND RESTART EXAM. HENCE, ABIM HAS GIVEN ME AN IND RESULT WITH A FAIL SCORE. I DID NOT HOWEVER RECEIVE ANY E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE LIKE YOU DID IN 2017 ABOUT THIS AND I ONLY DISCOVERED THIS FROM LOGGING INTO MY ABIM ACCOUNT AND GETTING MY RESULT. THERE IS NO EXPLANATION ON THE WEBSITE ON ANYTHING TO DO WITH INDETERMINATE RESULT AND USING A SEARCH ENGINE I CAME ACROSS YOUR POSTING WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL. I NEEDED TO PASS THIS EXAM TO MAINTAIN MY CERTIFCATOIN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. I CALLED ABIM TODAY AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM LISTED AS BOARD CERTIFIED IN 2019 SINCE THIS TECHNOLOGY ERROR ISSUE IS NOT MY FAULT AND THEY ESSENTIALLY ADMITTED TO ME OVER THE PHONE TODAY THAT IT IS THEIR FAULT AND THEY HAVE OFFERED A RE-EXAM OPTION OR REFUND OPTION. I HAVE OPTED TO RE-EXAM. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE SAID I WILL BE LISTED AS NOT CERTIFIED NOT AFTER JANUARY 1, 2019. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND AGAINST LOGIC GIVEN THAT THEY ARE CULPABLE FOR THIS RESULT WITH AN IND RESULT. THEY OFFERED THE E-MAIL OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION, DR. RICHARD BARON, AND I WILL BE E-MAILNG HIM SHORTLY. YOU MAY KNOW NOW THAT THERE IS A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT FROM PHYSICIANS AGAINST ABIM THAT IS BASED ON OTHER MOC CERTIFICATION ISSSUES. I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW YOUR ENCOUNTER AND ISSUE PLAYED OUT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE IS NOT ONE WORLD OF "INDETERMINATE RESULT OR IND" ON THE ABIM POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WEBSITE. THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Abim is going to lose that lawsuit BIG!
 
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So what are you think of the situation that I presented to you or that you commented on?
It doesn't really matter what I think about it. The situation is what it is. Feel free to file a suit against ABIM or PearsonVUE if you like wasting your money. But it won't change the situation.

Honestly, the best option at this point is to go your employer/credentialing hospitals and tell them the situation. Hopefully, they'll let it slide for a year assuming you have kept your MOC and all that crap.

I do think it's BS that the exam is only offered once a year. This is also a good argument for taking the re-cert in year 9 so if there's a situation like this, it's less of a problem.
 
Gutonc,

I just wanted to get your opinion on the matter since you are a experienced attending physician who may or may not be on academic faculty at a US hospital/medical school. However, the American Board of internal medicine has gotten some negative Publis city lately and I do not know the merit of the class-action lawsuit. But I think and you would’ve completely agree with us that based on what I have told you if the culpability is due to technology at the testing center or do to the American Board of internal medicine‘s technology issues then I should be given the courtesy to extend my board certification status one more year until the next board exam . In fact, nowhere in there oh Fishel policy online does it address any indeterminate result. The word indeterminate is not even used in their policy. Their policy is that if there is technology issues that they will cover the cost of the next exam administration or do you have the option to get a refund. As I said based on the merit of my affirmation issue, on the surface this should be a slamdunk if I decided to sue. I have just finished a draft and I’m going to be sending an email to Dr. Richard Baron since they provided me the email the president and I think cooler heads will prevail when he sees the whole situation. If not, I will due Pro Se which means self representation as this is not a complex litigation case if I decided to go forward if there is no resolution to this matter and it would be absolutely free on my part but total headache and extremely bad Publis city for the American Board of internal medicine if I decided to shoot. What is your opinion on what I have just said here. I do value your opinion given that it seems like you are an experienced clinician and medical oncology and in medicine altogether.


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Hello, I saw your post from October 25, 2017 when you got an indeterminate result on your ABIM Internal Medicine Exam and they e-mailed you a letter describing the test conditions in Williamsville, NY and indicating that you have a INDETERMINATE(IND) RESULT AND YOUR REMEDY EXPLAINED IN THE E-MAIL TO YOU FROM ABIM WAS TO RETAKE THE EXAM AT NEXT ADMINISTRATION FOR NO ADDITIONAL COST OR TO GET REFUNDED THE COST OF THE EXAM. YESTERDAY, I received a IND RESULT ON MY internal medicine MOC 10 year recertification exam and this was due to TECHNOLOGY ISSUES AND SOFTWARE ISSUES AT PEARSONVUE WITH UPTODATE RESOURCE DELAYS WITH CONCOMITANT CLOCK TICKING WHILE IT TOOK SIGNIFICANT TIME FROM WHEN I CLICKED UPTODATE ICON TO WHEN IT WOULD SHOW UP ON SCREEN(CLOCK IS SUPPOSED TO FREEZE AND NOT TICK DURING THESE GAPS AFTER CLICKING UPTODATE LINK). IN ADDITION, MY COMPUTER LOG-OFF SEVERAL TIMES AND I NEEDED THE PROCTOR TO REBOOT AND RESTART EXAM. HENCE, ABIM HAS GIVEN ME AN IND RESULT WITH A FAIL SCORE. I DID NOT HOWEVER RECEIVE ANY E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE LIKE YOU DID IN 2017 ABOUT THIS AND I ONLY DISCOVERED THIS FROM LOGGING INTO MY ABIM ACCOUNT AND GETTING MY RESULT. THERE IS NO EXPLANATION ON THE WEBSITE ON ANYTHING TO DO WITH INDETERMINATE RESULT AND USING A SEARCH ENGINE I CAME ACROSS YOUR POSTING WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL. I NEEDED TO PASS THIS EXAM TO MAINTAIN MY CERTIFCATOIN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. I CALLED ABIM TODAY AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM LISTED AS BOARD CERTIFIED IN 2019 SINCE THIS TECHNOLOGY ERROR ISSUE IS NOT MY FAULT AND THEY ESSENTIALLY ADMITTED TO ME OVER THE PHONE TODAY THAT IT IS THEIR FAULT AND THEY HAVE OFFERED A RE-EXAM OPTION OR REFUND OPTION. I HAVE OPTED TO RE-EXAM. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE SAID I WILL BE LISTED AS NOT CERTIFIED NOT AFTER JANUARY 1, 2019. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND AGAINST LOGIC GIVEN THAT THEY ARE CULPABLE FOR THIS RESULT WITH AN IND RESULT. THEY OFFERED THE E-MAIL OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION, DR. RICHARD BARON, AND I WILL BE E-MAILNG HIM SHORTLY. YOU MAY KNOW NOW THAT THERE IS A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT FROM PHYSICIANS AGAINST ABIM THAT IS BASED ON OTHER MOC CERTIFICATION ISSSUES. I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW YOUR ENCOUNTER AND ISSUE PLAYED OUT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE IS NOT ONE WORLD OF "INDETERMINATE RESULT OR IND" ON THE ABIM POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WEBSITE. THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
This is a completely unacceptable response!
 
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Hello, I saw your post from October 25, 2017 when you got an indeterminate result on your ABIM Internal Medicine Exam and they e-mailed you a letter describing the test conditions in Williamsville, NY and indicating that you have a INDETERMINATE(IND) RESULT AND YOUR REMEDY EXPLAINED IN THE E-MAIL TO YOU FROM ABIM WAS TO RETAKE THE EXAM AT NEXT ADMINISTRATION FOR NO ADDITIONAL COST OR TO GET REFUNDED THE COST OF THE EXAM. YESTERDAY, I received a IND RESULT ON MY internal medicine MOC 10 year recertification exam and this was due to TECHNOLOGY ISSUES AND SOFTWARE ISSUES AT PEARSONVUE WITH UPTODATE RESOURCE DELAYS WITH CONCOMITANT CLOCK TICKING WHILE IT TOOK SIGNIFICANT TIME FROM WHEN I CLICKED UPTODATE ICON TO WHEN IT WOULD SHOW UP ON SCREEN(CLOCK IS SUPPOSED TO FREEZE AND NOT TICK DURING THESE GAPS AFTER CLICKING UPTODATE LINK). IN ADDITION, MY COMPUTER LOG-OFF SEVERAL TIMES AND I NEEDED THE PROCTOR TO REBOOT AND RESTART EXAM. HENCE, ABIM HAS GIVEN ME AN IND RESULT WITH A FAIL SCORE. I DID NOT HOWEVER RECEIVE ANY E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE LIKE YOU DID IN 2017 ABOUT THIS AND I ONLY DISCOVERED THIS FROM LOGGING INTO MY ABIM ACCOUNT AND GETTING MY RESULT. THERE IS NO EXPLANATION ON THE WEBSITE ON ANYTHING TO DO WITH INDETERMINATE RESULT AND USING A SEARCH ENGINE I CAME ACROSS YOUR POSTING WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL. I NEEDED TO PASS THIS EXAM TO MAINTAIN MY CERTIFCATOIN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. I CALLED ABIM TODAY AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM LISTED AS BOARD CERTIFIED IN 2019 SINCE THIS TECHNOLOGY ERROR ISSUE IS NOT MY FAULT AND THEY ESSENTIALLY ADMITTED TO ME OVER THE PHONE TODAY THAT IT IS THEIR FAULT AND THEY HAVE OFFERED A RE-EXAM OPTION OR REFUND OPTION. I HAVE OPTED TO RE-EXAM. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE SAID I WILL BE LISTED AS NOT CERTIFIED NOT AFTER JANUARY 1, 2019. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND AGAINST LOGIC GIVEN THAT THEY ARE CULPABLE FOR THIS RESULT WITH AN IND RESULT. THEY OFFERED THE E-MAIL OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION, DR. RICHARD BARON, AND I WILL BE E-MAILNG HIM SHORTLY. YOU MAY KNOW NOW THAT THERE IS A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT FROM PHYSICIANS AGAINST ABIM THAT IS BASED ON OTHER MOC CERTIFICATION ISSSUES. I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW YOUR ENCOUNTER AND ISSUE PLAYED OUT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE IS NOT ONE WORLD OF "INDETERMINATE RESULT OR IND" ON THE ABIM POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WEBSITE. THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.

Get an attorney.
 
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Gutonc,

I just wanted to get your opinion on the matter since you are a experienced attending physician who may or may not be on academic faculty at a US hospital/medical school. However, the American Board of internal medicine has gotten some negative Publis city lately and I do not know the merit of the class-action lawsuit. But I think and you would’ve completely agree with us that based on what I have told you if the culpability is due to technology at the testing center or do to the American Board of internal medicine‘s technology issues then I should be given the courtesy to extend my board certification status one more year until the next board exam . In fact, nowhere in there oh Fishel policy online does it address any indeterminate result. The word indeterminate is not even used in their policy. Their policy is that if there is technology issues that they will cover the cost of the next exam administration or do you have the option to get a refund. As I said based on the merit of my affirmation issue, on the surface this should be a slamdunk if I decided to sue. I have just finished a draft and I’m going to be sending an email to Dr. Richard Baron since they provided me the email the president and I think cooler heads will prevail when he sees the whole situation. If not, I will due Pro Se which means self representation as this is not a complex litigation case if I decided to go forward if there is no resolution to this matter and it would be absolutely free on my part but total headache and extremely bad Publis city for the American Board of internal medicine if I decided to shoot. What is your opinion on what I have just said here. I do value your opinion given that it seems like you are an experienced clinician and medical oncology and in medicine altogether.


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Are you going to lose privileges/employment due to this event? If so, you should absolutely hire an attorney since your income and reputation are at stake. If your gripe is the loss of certification status online and having to retake the exam, you would have to show breach of contract on their part.

Either way, pro se representation for such a serious matter seems risky.
 
I am sure this has been answered in here already but 36 pages is hard to sift through even with the search feature. Everyone has a different study/learning strategy but was wondering your opinion on MKSAP 17 vs 18. I am taking ABIM this year ( August 2019) and was given 17 from my program last year. I have almost completed all the questions once but some of these i started a year ago so not terribly solidified in my memory. Of course ACP decides to create a new version of MSKAP this year and I'm not sure if at this point I should actually purchase it and try and power through or just rely on 17 knowing there are aspects that aren't up to date (particularly blood pressure guidelines/treatment). I was also considering getting UWorld 6 months before and attempting to do that twice instead and just use the MKSAP board basics book as a guide.

Any opinions?

Thanks for your help!
 
I am sure this has been answered in here already but 36 pages is hard to sift through even with the search feature. Everyone has a different study/learning strategy but was wondering your opinion on MKSAP 17 vs 18. I am taking ABIM this year ( August 2019) and was given 17 from my program last year. I have almost completed all the questions once but some of these i started a year ago so not terribly solidified in my memory. Of course ACP decides to create a new version of MSKAP this year and I'm not sure if at this point I should actually purchase it and try and power through or just rely on 17 knowing there are aspects that aren't up to date (particularly blood pressure guidelines/treatment). I was also considering getting UWorld 6 months before and attempting to do that twice instead and just use the MKSAP board basics book as a guide.

Any opinions?

Thanks for your help!

Short answer: you'll be fine with 17.

Longer answer: really the updates are more focused towards new guidelines that came out (I can't remember exactly but I think they were called the "clinical update" questions in MKSAP). The vast bulk of the questions on the boards will be on topics where the answers are well-established and controversial topics (BP management is a great example) where the guidelines flip-flop every few years will almost certainly not be on the exam. Board basics is pretty good - I wish I used it earlier in my preparation. I found UW to be very underwhelming but a lot of people like it.
 
Can anyone please comment on the format of the exam. On the ABIM website, it states: "The exams are given in modular format with a maximum of 60 multiple-choice questions per exam session. " -- in a different section of the website it states each section is 2 hours so I assume 2 hours per 60 min block with some breaks in between each section.

Just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
 
are people reading the entire MKSAP textbook or just the questions for ABIM exams? I tried going through the books and was so overwhelmed. How can one get a solid knowledge of this exams? Thank you.
 
Short answer: you'll be fine with 17.

Longer answer: really the updates are more focused towards new guidelines that came out (I can't remember exactly but I think they were called the "clinical update" questions in MKSAP). The vast bulk of the questions on the boards will be on topics where the answers are well-established and controversial topics (BP management is a great example) where the guidelines flip-flop every few years will almost certainly not be on the exam. Board basics is pretty good - I wish I used it earlier in my preparation. I found UW to be very underwhelming but a lot of people like it.
I had a lot of questions on BP. I was not sure on which answers to give given that new guidelines had just been published.
 
Well, my oncology friend, what do you think of this quagmire after I have told you the story. Basically, American Board of internal medicine, is responsible for this indeterminate result and they are attributing that to the technology issues that occurred during my exam sessions. Thus, my board certification should remain intact until the results of my next potential exam administration which they are offeringMe at no cost. What is your thoughts on the situation?


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Can anyone please comment on the format of the exam. On the ABIM website, it states: "The exams are given in modular format with a maximum of 60 multiple-choice questions per exam session. " -- in a different section of the website it states each section is 2 hours so I assume 2 hours per 60 min block with some breaks in between each section.

Just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
i can only comment on my MOC. i had four sections, 55 questions each, and two of which uptodate was available to me.
i used all my two hours for each block.
 
are people reading the entire MKSAP textbook or just the questions for ABIM exams? I tried going through the books and was so overwhelmed. How can one get a solid knowledge of this exams? Thank you.
i tried mksap text 17 version, did not care for it. i think you will like board basics more. Also i did read some medstudy text for sections im not exposed to on my day to day work. i highly recommend UWorld.
 
I'm looking for a study partner - taking the exam this summer. Will to do just questions or questions and revision. Please message if you are interested. Thanks!
 
I'm looking for a study partner - taking the exam this summer. Will to do just questions or questions and revision. Please message if you are interested. Thanks!

hi i am interested. how can we connect??
 
seeking study partner for 2019 abim to do questions over skype or phone. please message me if interested
 
Hello
In few days I am going to buy one of those MKSAP 18 or MedStudy 18, I need to know pros and cons of each one of them in details; so I can decide which one to buy... price is not an issue.
Thanks
 
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Is there a petition to offer this exam twice yearly? Given how much impact it now has on our careers, it is would be nice to have this opportunity.
 
I'm looking for a study partner - taking the exam this summer. Will to do just questions or questions and revision. Please message if you are interested. Thanks!
I'm interested in a study partner for abim mksap 18 questions 1 hour/day, pls message me if interested
 
Good EKG resource for the boards?

Can anyone recommend a good EKG resource (link, or book) for the boards? Of course, not too simple (not a ekg basics book), and not too advanced (not a elctrophys book)....just something appropriate for the ABIM. (yes I've searched, there's a plethora of stuff online, was just wondering what you all found as useful).
 
Good EKG resource for the boards?

Can anyone recommend a good EKG resource (link, or book) for the boards? Of course, not too simple (not a ekg basics book), and not too advanced (not a elctrophys book)....just something appropriate for the ABIM. (yes I've searched, there's a plethora of stuff online, was just wondering what you all found as useful).
I don't remember having more than 2 or 3 EKG questions on the ABIM. I just wung it. Cards was my 2nd strongest sub-topic.

I haven't read an EKG for clinically relevant reasons since my last CCU rotation in residency.
 
Does Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine Self-Assessment and Board Review, represents a good tool of preparation for the ABIM or AOBIM?
 
Hello, I saw your post from October 25, 2017 when you got an indeterminate result on your ABIM Internal Medicine Exam and they e-mailed you a letter describing the test conditions in Williamsville, NY and indicating that you have a INDETERMINATE(IND) RESULT AND YOUR REMEDY EXPLAINED IN THE E-MAIL TO YOU FROM ABIM WAS TO RETAKE THE EXAM AT NEXT ADMINISTRATION FOR NO ADDITIONAL COST OR TO GET REFUNDED THE COST OF THE EXAM. YESTERDAY, I received a IND RESULT ON MY internal medicine MOC 10 year recertification exam and this was due to TECHNOLOGY ISSUES AND SOFTWARE ISSUES AT PEARSONVUE WITH UPTODATE RESOURCE DELAYS WITH CONCOMITANT CLOCK TICKING WHILE IT TOOK SIGNIFICANT TIME FROM WHEN I CLICKED UPTODATE ICON TO WHEN IT WOULD SHOW UP ON SCREEN(CLOCK IS SUPPOSED TO FREEZE AND NOT TICK DURING THESE GAPS AFTER CLICKING UPTODATE LINK). IN ADDITION, MY COMPUTER LOG-OFF SEVERAL TIMES AND I NEEDED THE PROCTOR TO REBOOT AND RESTART EXAM. HENCE, ABIM HAS GIVEN ME AN IND RESULT WITH A FAIL SCORE. I DID NOT HOWEVER RECEIVE ANY E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE LIKE YOU DID IN 2017 ABOUT THIS AND I ONLY DISCOVERED THIS FROM LOGGING INTO MY ABIM ACCOUNT AND GETTING MY RESULT. THERE IS NO EXPLANATION ON THE WEBSITE ON ANYTHING TO DO WITH INDETERMINATE RESULT AND USING A SEARCH ENGINE I CAME ACROSS YOUR POSTING WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL. I NEEDED TO PASS THIS EXAM TO MAINTAIN MY CERTIFCATOIN FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS. I CALLED ABIM TODAY AND WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM LISTED AS BOARD CERTIFIED IN 2019 SINCE THIS TECHNOLOGY ERROR ISSUE IS NOT MY FAULT AND THEY ESSENTIALLY ADMITTED TO ME OVER THE PHONE TODAY THAT IT IS THEIR FAULT AND THEY HAVE OFFERED A RE-EXAM OPTION OR REFUND OPTION. I HAVE OPTED TO RE-EXAM. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE SAID I WILL BE LISTED AS NOT CERTIFIED NOT AFTER JANUARY 1, 2019. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG AND AGAINST LOGIC GIVEN THAT THEY ARE CULPABLE FOR THIS RESULT WITH AN IND RESULT. THEY OFFERED THE E-MAIL OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION, DR. RICHARD BARON, AND I WILL BE E-MAILNG HIM SHORTLY. YOU MAY KNOW NOW THAT THERE IS A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT FROM PHYSICIANS AGAINST ABIM THAT IS BASED ON OTHER MOC CERTIFICATION ISSSUES. I WANTED TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW YOUR ENCOUNTER AND ISSUE PLAYED OUT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT THERE IS NOT ONE WORLD OF "INDETERMINATE RESULT OR IND" ON THE ABIM POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WEBSITE. THANK YOU AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.


I am not understanding; so people who still had a passing score despite the center's technical issues, are not being a passing score because of the technical issues? Or is it that your score was not high enough because the technical issues? The first situation seems illegal, and the second situation is more of a grey zone.
 
What is considered a “safe zone” MKSAP 18 qbank % correct to pass the ABIM board? I am at around 67% with some sections left. My ITSE scores (percentage, not percentile) were 68%, 78% and 78% (PGY-1, 2 and 3, respectively). My only source is going to be the Qbank and Board Basics.
 
Has anyone used the Medstudy video board review? how is it comparable to awesome review?
 
What is considered a “safe zone” MKSAP 18 qbank % correct to pass the ABIM board? I am at around 67% with some sections left. My ITSE scores (percentage, not percentile) were 68%, 78% and 78% (PGY-1, 2 and 3, respectively). My only source is going to be the Qbank and Board Basics.
My first pass through I was in the high 60s in some sections to low 80s on others. I passed just fine. Only used QBank and BB.
 
Hi everyone,

I'm a Canadian Internal Medicine resident and I just recently finished studying and writing my Canadian board exams at the end of my third year of residency. Studied for 6-9 months for the Canadian exams and did decently on the IM-ITE (high 70-90th percentiles) throughout my training. Now planning on writing the ABIM in about 6 weeks. If you had 6 weeks, what resources would you suggest? I'm mainly interested in flash cards and practice exams. I'll obviously go over american guidelines and areas that are not covered in the Canadian boards as well.

I'm thinking about using UWorld and Know-med-ge flashcards based on what I've been reading on here. For know-med-ge, is the "Flashcard platform" sufficient? Or should I buy the question bank as well?

Appreciate any suggestions.
 
63% correct first time thru entire UWorld question bank & taking ABIM for first time next month. For the next month before the exam, I’ll be reading thru MedStudy plus all the notes I typed up while reviewing the explanations on UWorld qbank.
Do y’all this will be enough to pass ABIM?
 
Hello,

My Name is Dr. Jafri,

I am an internal medicine faculty physician passed my boards last year. I teach board review to our residents biweekly looking to expand for those interested online. Since I am first starting looking to offer online sessions to teach topics as a free resource and if interest level there afterwards can try to expand it further!
Where can I find your sessions?
 
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