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COL is low and people are building mansions there for a fraction of price that it costs to live on either coastline. Idaho is up and coming in my opinion.

Not in Boise or CDA but Fruitland is far enough outside of the Boise metro that it’s probably relatively cheap.

Here’s a new construction home on a few acres in one of the nicer suburbs in Boise…

Cheap Idaho Housing
 
Podiatry job listings are getting strange.
 

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Podiatry job listings are getting strange.
Podiatrists are eligible for more job categories than in years past. Some are chief of surgery now at smaller VAs for example. As a result of our degree now being eligible for higher level management jobs at the VA, DPMs get included as theoretically eligible on many job postings like this that a podiatrist actually has no chance of getting.
 
Bad, good, neutral ?

No base, straight percentage from the get-go of 40–50%? PP.

It’s always a crapshoot with PP. With no base salary, you could end up making less than a McDonald’s manager if the patient volume isn’t there. However, if the volume is there, then this offer is above average for PP where the percentage is usually 30-35% which is just awful.
 
Bad, good, neutral ?

No base, straight percentage from the get-go of 40–50%? PP.

This is fine after a 1-2 year period of some salary (hopefully 150-ish + 30% after they recoup their cost).

Straight from the get go seems like more risk than its worth. You don't know how many patients you will have, if any. You don't know if all the insurance panels are open, so you could be limited to who you can see. You won't get paid for a few months from some of these insurance companies.

I think the best thing with deals like this is for the practice to offer a minimum base OR that 40-50%, whichever is higher. Ive seen a lot of places do that. Keeps you incentivized, keeps their labor cost of you to at a minimum, but you can't just be working for free for who knows how long.

This only works if this job is in your parents/grandparents/whatever city (somewhere you can live for free for as long as you want), and your still on a family cell plan, car insurance plan, etc. Basically, it could work if you have no expenses lol.
Or the above scenario for your expenses, but the practice owner lets you live with him/her rent/utility free hahaha
 
It’s always a crapshoot with PP. With no base salary, you could end up making less than a McDonald’s manager if the patient volume isn’t there. However, if the volume is there, then this offer is above average for PP where the percentage is usually 30-35% which is just awful.
Narrator: the volume is not there
 
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Once again, I'll say hate the market, not the employer. As a PP owner, I know it's really HARD to get a new provider up and running. It took me a long time to get up to speed when I first started. It's not like working for a facility where you can hit the ground running. For us there are all kinds of steps to be taken before anyone can actually start seeing patients. You have to be credentialed with insurances, and Medicare and Medicaid are the two easiest to enroll in. Some payers want you to be board certified, and for better or for worse that spurred my interest in ABPM. In my community, participation in most plans is contingent on hospital privileging. And hospital privileges are contingent on licensing/malpractice coverage/DEA certification. And we all know that claims take 1-2 months to turn around once submitted.

The result of all this from an owner's perspective is that there's a severe lag in cash flows relative to the hire date for a new doc. In an ideal world, the credentialing process can be completed in spring of the year the associate graduates residency and then they can start seeing patients right away, but it's hard to avoid bottlenecks. Then the owner is on the hook to pay salary + taxes + benefits for the hope that maybe 3 months from now some income will trickle in. Any wonder an owner would insulate themselves from these cash flow disruptions by offering a low salary?

Trust me, I wish we all could be earning $460k like the ACFAS survey says we do. I wish my business had the kinds of cash flows where I could pay someone that salary. But the money simply isn't there in PP podiatry. It should not be the small business owner's responsibility to rectify the market saturation created by the colleges.
 
Once again, I'll say hate the market, not the employer. As a PP owner, I know it's really HARD to get a new provider up and running. It took me a long time to get up to speed when I first started. It's not like working for a facility where you can hit the ground running. For us there are all kinds of steps to be taken before anyone can actually start seeing patients. You have to be credentialed with insurances, and Medicare and Medicaid are the two easiest to enroll in. Some payers want you to be board certified, and for better or for worse that spurred my interest in ABPM. In my community, participation in most plans is contingent on hospital privileging. And hospital privileges are contingent on licensing/malpractice coverage/DEA certification. And we all know that claims take 1-2 months to turn around once submitted.

The result of all this from an owner's perspective is that there's a severe lag in cash flows relative to the hire date for a new doc. In an ideal world, the credentialing process can be completed in spring of the year the associate graduates residency and then they can start seeing patients right away, but it's hard to avoid bottlenecks. Then the owner is on the hook to pay salary + taxes + benefits for the hope that maybe 3 months from now some income will trickle in. Any wonder an owner would insulate themselves from these cash flow disruptions by offering a low salary?

Trust me, I wish we all could be earning $460k like the ACFAS survey says we do. I wish my business had the kinds of cash flows where I could pay someone that salary. But the money simply isn't there in PP podiatry. It should not be the small business owner's responsibility to rectify the market saturation created by the colleges.
Speaking of bottlenecks, our last associate hire got a state license in record time and was still finishing fellowship. We were pumped - get the kid on all the insurances and hit the ground running. We applied for Medicare/Medicaid and were told they couldn’t start processing until 60 days before the start date. WTabsoluteF. Cost us months of lead time getting them on the other insurance panels.
 
Once again, I'll say hate the market, not the employer. As a PP owner, I know it's really HARD to get a new provider up and running. It took me a long time to get up to speed when I first started. It's not like working for a facility where you can hit the ground running. For us there are all kinds of steps to be taken before anyone can actually start seeing patients. You have to be credentialed with insurances, and Medicare and Medicaid are the two easiest to enroll in. Some payers want you to be board certified, and for better or for worse that spurred my interest in ABPM. In my community, participation in most plans is contingent on hospital privileging. And hospital privileges are contingent on licensing/malpractice coverage/DEA certification. And we all know that claims take 1-2 months to turn around once submitted.

The result of all this from an owner's perspective is that there's a severe lag in cash flows relative to the hire date for a new doc. In an ideal world, the credentialing process can be completed in spring of the year the associate graduates residency and then they can start seeing patients right away, but it's hard to avoid bottlenecks. Then the owner is on the hook to pay salary + taxes + benefits for the hope that maybe 3 months from now some income will trickle in. Any wonder an owner would insulate themselves from these cash flow disruptions by offering a low salary?

Trust me, I wish we all could be earning $460k like the ACFAS survey says we do. I wish my business had the kinds of cash flows where I could pay someone that salary. But the money simply isn't there in PP podiatry. It should not be the small business owner's responsibility to rectify the market saturation created by the colleges.
Then the small business owner probably shouldn't hire anyone
 
One slot. Surgical podiatry. U.S. Army (active duty position). Readiness-driven foot/ankle surgery billet.

Posting because the practical details aren’t commonly shared on recruitment sites .

The work:
Forefoot, midfoot, hindfoot—training injuries, sports pathology, fractures/injury-related reconstruction. Stress fractures, Lisfranc, calcaneus, MIS if that’s your lane. Predominantly young active-duty who need to return to mission. At most sites, chronic wound care/diabetic limb salvage is a small part of the panel; the exact mix is site-dependent and shown during screening.

How it runs:
Integrated with ortho + PT/H2F/performance medicine. Not siloed. Not consult-only. Surgical podiatry clinic + OR after hospital credentialing/privileges. OR access depends on local capacity; you build demand and earn consistency.

Retirement/healthcare benefits/housing Incentives based on rank (when eligible; “up to,” FY funding-dependent, taxable):

Podiatry Loan repayment up to $40K/year for 3 years. Retention bonus up to $25K/year with a 4-year agreement. Confirm what is funded this cycle.

Tradeoffs:
You don’t pick your city. The commissioning process is paperwork-heavy ex and slow. OR time depends on privileging and local capacity—no guarantees.

Who is competitive:

36-month surgical residency, unrestricted license eligible, and ABFAS board-certified or on a strong ABFAS trajectory with credible operative experience.


Next step (to save time):

Email Joshua Watson (AMEDD recruiter): [email protected] or your local AMEDD medical recruiter.


Subject: “Army Surgical Podiatry officer Slot”

Include: (1) CV, (2) ABFAS status, (3) license status/timeline, (4) stateside vs overseas preference. If competitive, you’ll receive a brief screening call and the current duty-location options, call model, and confirmed incentives for this FY.
 
One slot. Surgical podiatry. U.S. Army (active duty position). Readiness-driven foot/ankle surgery billet.

Posting because the practical details aren’t commonly shared on recruitment sites .

The work:
Forefoot, midfoot, hindfoot—training injuries, sports pathology, fractures/injury-related reconstruction. Stress fractures, Lisfranc, calcaneus, MIS if that’s your lane. Predominantly young active-duty who need to return to mission. At most sites, chronic wound care/diabetic limb salvage is a small part of the panel; the exact mix is site-dependent and shown during screening.

How it runs:
Integrated with ortho + PT/H2F/performance medicine. Not siloed. Not consult-only. Surgical podiatry clinic + OR after hospital credentialing/privileges. OR access depends on local capacity; you build demand and earn consistency.

Retirement/healthcare benefits/housing Incentives based on rank (when eligible; “up to,” FY funding-dependent, taxable):

Podiatry Loan repayment up to $40K/year for 3 years. Retention bonus up to $25K/year with a 4-year agreement. Confirm what is funded this cycle.

Tradeoffs:
You don’t pick your city. The commissioning process is paperwork-heavy ex and slow. OR time depends on privileging and local capacity—no guarantees.

Who is competitive:

36-month surgical residency, unrestricted license eligible, and ABFAS board-certified or on a strong ABFAS trajectory with credible operative experience.


Next step (to save time):

Email Joshua Watson (AMEDD recruiter): [email protected] or your local AMEDD medical recruiter.


Subject: “Army Surgical Podiatry officer Slot”

Include: (1) CV, (2) ABFAS status, (3) license status/timeline, (4) stateside vs overseas preference. If competitive, you’ll receive a brief screening call and the current duty-location options, call model, and confirmed incentives for this FY.
Damn we need ABFAS cert to enlist in the army now?

I’m curious why anyone would chase a job after getting ABFAS certified that has them end up in the military with no power on where they will work. Crazy.

Imagine getting shouted at by a drill instructor in basic training just so you can get a podiatry job
 
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Damn we need ABFAS cert to enlist in the army now?

I’m curious why anyone would chase a job after getting ABFAS certified that has them end up in the military with no power on where they will work. Crazy.

Imagine getting shouted at by a drill instructor in basic training just so you can get a podiatry job
I would guess being enticed by that student loan repayment offer without having to rely on PSLF. Even though they're offering ICE thugs that same amount of repayment, which is insulting.
 
Damn we need ABFAS cert to enlist in the army now?

I’m curious why anyone would chase a job after getting ABFAS certified that has them end up in the military with no power on where they will work. Crazy.

Imagine getting shouted at by a drill instructor in basic training just so you can get a podiatry job
Its commissioned, not enlisted.

You get some say in where you work. You do not get shouted by a drill instructor. Keep complaining. Its probably one of the best deals in podiatry.
 
Question to hospital-employed podiatrists - How did you find the job? I've cold called so many hospitals, emailed them as well but no luck! I'm open to move anywhere in the states, but still no luck in finding hospital based jobs. Any lead would be really appreciated!
 
Are FQHC jobs good? I am trying to be board certified and I know most of these patients are on state insurance plans or no insurance sometimes. Also, do they usually give you production incentives or is it straight up base only?
 
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Why aren’t links provided by ACFAS to these job postings that list the advertised salaries for the incoming class of 500 new graduates?
Giving major pyramid scheme vibes.

If you’re that passionate about food and ankle surgery, why not just become a foot and ankle ortho? I could post countless job listings with base salaries of $400–600k, while podiatry positions are sitting around $120–150k—maybe $220k if you’re lucky.


This is a joke.
 
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Question to hospital-employed podiatrists - How did you find the job? I've cold called so many hospitals, emailed them as well but no luck! I'm open to move anywhere in the states, but still no luck in finding hospital based jobs. Any lead would be really appreciated!
Luck honestly. Job was posted online on Indeed if I remember correctly. Having an in can help but if the position doesn't exist then it's tough to create. Other problem is there are plenty of area pods at most hospitals. If they're collecting facility fees from surgery at the OR and MRI/CT/PT is getting booked through the hospital, where's the incentive for them to pay someone for the same outcome.
 
Quick clarifications so previous thread doesn’t drift:
This is an active-duty U.S. Army, hospital-based position at military treatment facilities (not a VA job), and it’s a commissioned medical officer role/benefits (you are not enlisting).

Board certification (ABFAS) isn’t required just to enter the Army, but this opening is competitive, and board-certified or near-board-certified surgeons are the typical fit. Duty station isn’t guaranteed; competitive applicants are briefed on how assignments work for this opening and what the realistic options look like before signing. Incentives are eligibility- and yearly-funding dependent and taxable; the recruiter confirms what applies this cycle.

If you’re serious, email Joshua Watson with CV, ABFAS status, and license timeline:

[email protected] or reach out to your local AMEDD(medical) recruiter.

Subject: Surgical Army Podiatry Officer Slot

Competitive applicants can also ask to be connected with a current Army podiatrist for a candid discussion about day-to-day practice.

For background on commissioned medical officers:

 

Job Description Surgical Podiatrist Opportunity employed
| Surgical Focus | Dayton, Ohio (Beavercreek)Kettering Health is seeking a Surgical Podiatrist to join an established program in the Dayton region. This is a new position due to growth and increasing procedural demand.Practice LocationsClinic: Beavercreek, OhioSurgery Centers:
Kettering Health Dayton
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Schedule & Expected VolumeClinic: 2 days per Week

surgery: 3 days per weekTarget Surgical Volume: 12–16 cases per weekTarget Clinic Volume: ~60 patients per weekThis role is structured for a provider who wants a predictable, procedure-forward practice with consistent OR access.Case MixCommon Surgical ProceduresBunionectomyPlantar fasciotomyHammertoe repairCommon Clinic ProceduresJoint injectionsPlantar fascia injectionsIngrown toenail (temporary removal)There are no procedural exclusions. The program is open to a broad scope of care based on provider interest and training.Call ResponsibilitiesPractice call onlyShared 1:4No hospital callPosition HighlightsEmployed position within a stable, integrated health systemGrowth-driven opening with an existing referral baseBalanced clinic and OR scheduleNo inpatient or hospital call burdenMultiple surgical sites for flexibility and efficiencyStrong administrative and operational supportPreferred Candidate ProfileBoard-certified or board-eligibleComfortable with both clinic-based care and surgical volumeInterested in building a long-term practice within a health system
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NYC – Surgical + Sports Medicine Opportunity | Great Lifestyle​

Hi everyone,


AIRE Podiatry is a boutique, patient-centered practice on NYC’s Upper East Side, and we’re looking to add a board-certified/qualified podiatrist to our team.

This is an excellent fit for graduating residents or early-career pods with strong surgical training who want to continue developing their skills in a supportive, collaborative environment.

What we offer:
• Strong surgical exposure (forefoot/rearfoot cases)
• Active sports medicine caseload
• Mentorship and clinical autonomy
• Competitive compensation
• Flexible scheduling and true work-life balance
• Modern, well-established patient base

We’re looking for someone compassionate, motivated, surgically confident, and interested in long-term growth within a private practice setting. This candidate must have impeccable bedside manner who is passionate about providing high-level, patient-centered care to an engaged and wellness-focused NYC patient population.

NY licensure (or ability to obtain) required.

The position begins with a competitive base salary plus a reasonable performance-based bonus. As your patient panel grows and you establish your own following, compensation will transition to a productivity-based model designed to significantly increase earning potential and remove income caps, rewarding long-term growth and initiative.

If interested, please email your CV to [email protected]. Happy to connect and answer questions & please help spread the word! Thanks!
 
NYC – Surgical + Sports Medicine Opportunity | Great Lifestyle​

Hi everyone,


AIRE Podiatry is a boutique, patient-centered practice on NYC’s Upper East Side, and we’re looking to add a board-certified/qualified podiatrist to our team.

This is an excellent fit for graduating residents or early-career pods with strong surgical training who want to continue developing their skills in a supportive, collaborative environment.

What we offer:
• Strong surgical exposure (forefoot/rearfoot cases)
• Active sports medicine caseload
• Mentorship and clinical autonomy
• Competitive compensation
• Flexible scheduling and true work-life balance
• Modern, well-established patient base

We’re looking for someone compassionate, motivated, surgically confident, and interested in long-term growth within a private practice setting. This candidate must have impeccable bedside manner who is passionate about providing high-level, patient-centered care to an engaged and wellness-focused NYC patient population.

NY licensure (or ability to obtain) required.

The position begins with a competitive base salary plus a reasonable performance-based bonus. As your patient panel grows and you establish your own following, compensation will transition to a productivity-based model designed to significantly increase earning potential and remove income caps, rewarding long-term growth and initiative.

If interested, please email your CV to [email protected]. Happy to connect and answer questions & please help spread the word! Thanks!
Post the compensation. We want to know how bad it is
 
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Ok we all know how crappy the job market is, and this is a big problem in podiatry. But there are more podiatrists per capita in and around NYC than anyplace else on earth. If you're applying there and you're upset by the lowball offer you get, that's on you.
 
Ok we all know how crappy the job market is, and this is a big problem in podiatry. But there are more podiatrists per capita in and around NYC than anyplace else on earth. If you're applying there and you're upset by the lowball offer you get, that's on you.
Not entirely accurate. NYC has extremely high demand for podiatry — people walk everywhere, which means constant foot and ankle pathology. It’s competitive, sure, but it’s also a massive, health-conscious market. If you provide strong care and position yourself well, you can absolutely be successful here.
 
Not entirely accurate. NYC has extremely high demand for podiatry — people walk everywhere, which means constant foot and ankle pathology. It’s competitive, sure, but it’s also a massive, health-conscious market. If you provide strong care and position yourself well, you can absolutely be successful here.
I give you credit. To paraphrase the song, if you can make it there you can make it anywhere. So I admire your success, maybe even envy it. But that's the point, it seems like a really tough market.