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You should get as close to 60% that you can get for 1099. I applied for a "job" posting for routine foot care at nursing homes. I wanted to see just how bad these postings are. But, it's in my town and hey maybe making an extra 3k month isn't the worst thing in the world, so let's check it out. It's a 1099 position where you go to different facilities 3-5 1/2 days a month and they compensate you 40% of collections. They do not provide a nurse or even an exam chair for the patients and you provide your own instruments. Also, you would have to indemnify them and add them as an additional insured to your malpractice insurance which was going to increase my premium 15%. So yeah, I mean if you want to talk about how bad the job market is, these "jobs" exist.

 

[Feli]

You should get as close to 60% that you can get for 1099. I applied for a "job" posting for routine foot care at nursing homes. I wanted to see just how bad these postings are. But, it's in my town and hey maybe making an extra 3k month isn't the worst thing in the world, so let's check it out. It's a 1099 position where you go to different facilities 3-5 1/2 days a month and they compensate you 40% of collections. They do not provide a nurse or even an exam chair for the patients and you provide your own instruments. Also, you would have to indemnify them and add them as an additional insured to your malpractice insurance which was going to increase my premium 15%. So yeah, I mean if you want to talk about how bad the job market is, these "jobs" exist.

Exactly.

This post made me think of a house calls job I did on weekends early career during a job gap due to sorting out a non-compete knocking me out of half of Detroit (I did other house calls job w2 for my M-F at that time). The weekend 1099 one was something like me getting 45%, and I had to drive my car, call pateints to set up time/day, bring supplies, all that. All the 'employer' did was give me a list of a few patients to see, and after seeing them, I'd send the superbills to the company (which they'd send to a clearinghouse that messed up half the time). I can't believe their overhead was even 20% - and likely more like 10% on my work. It was crazy in hindsight. I was going to screenshot the 'contract' or an email of me complaining their collections were low on my work, but it honestly just makes me sad... and glad that was 10yrs ago. 😐

 

[footpainhealer]

as a 1099 it needs to be over 50% of net collection. Realistically it should be something more like 65%. The person contracting your services is paying $0 in employment taxes, $0 in benefits, $0 for licensing/CME/malpractice. Your cost to a group/practice as a contractor is some small % of rent, staffing, and disposable supplies. That’s it, a few grand per month.

I am pretty sure I have read on the MD/DO forum and white coat investor reddit page that some doctors go 1099 on purpose and still get their malpractice and health insurance and family health insurance and dental all paid for by the practice itself. It benefits both the practice (lower employment tax) and associates (more tax write-offs and higher investment limits).

 

[dtrack22]

I am pretty sure I have read on the MD/DO forum and white coat investor reddit page that some doctors go 1099 on purpose and still get their malpractice and health insurance and family health insurance and dental all paid for by the practice itself. It benefits both the practice (lower employment tax) and associates (more tax write-offs and higher investment limits).

They “can” cover malpractice (ie Locums work will generally cover this), but as soon as you’re getting personal and family medical/dental benefits paid for by the hiring entity, well, good luck explaining to the IRS how you are still just an “independent contractor.” Though I think that falls on the person doing the contracting and not you personally.

 

[619]

Podiatric Foot & Ankle Surgeon​

Suffolk, Virginia


Am I a good match for this job?
Podiatric Foot & Ankle Surgeon, Coastal Virginia | Suffolk, VA

Leading Multi-Specialty Group Seeks Podiatric Foot & Ankle Surgeon

Bayview Physicians Group has an immediate opportunity for a Board Certified/Board Eligible Podiatric Foot & Ankle Surgeon to join our established and growing surgical team in Suffolk, Virginia. This unique opportunity is perfect for a driven individual who wants to join a successful practice in a high-demand referral market.

What we offer:

• Above market earning potential (competitive compensation structure)

* Great work/life balance

* Practice located on a busy medical campus embedded inside a high-volume urgent care center

* Existing referral sources within busy multi-specialty medical group

• Modern EMR platform - eClinicalWorks (eCW) office-based EMR shared with Bayview's multi-specialties
• Full Benefits: Health, Dental, and Vision
• 401K Retirement
• CME allowance
• Paid time off
• Potential signing bonus
• Potential relocation allowance
• Malpractice and tail coverage

Responsibilities:

* Provide comprehensive podiatric care, including evaluation, diagnosis, and treatment of food and ankle conditions

* Perform surgical and non-surgical procedures related to foot and ankle pathology

* Manage acute and chronic conditions, including trauma, deformities, infections, and diabetic foot care

* Collaborate with urgent care, primary care, and other specialists within a multi-specialty medical group

* Participate in shared call coverage

* Utilize shared EMR to document patient care accurately and efficiently

Organization:

Bayview Physicians Group is one of Virginia's fastest-growing independent, multi-specialty medical groups. Founded in 1991, Bayview is a value-based organization committed to strengthening the doctor-patient relationship and delivering high-quality, cost-effective care.

We proudly manage a successful Accountable Care Organization (ACO) serving more than 45,000 covered lives, providing physicians with the resources and infrastructure needed to focus on what matters most-patient care.

Organization Overview

• Serving South Hampton Roads, Virginia
• Locations across Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, Suffolk,

* More than 300 providers including:

o Primary Care

o Specialty

o APPs

• 75 + outpatient care sites
• 7 urgent care clinics (NowCare)
• Ambulatory surgery centers
• Advanced diagnostic imaging (CT), onsite lab services
• Sleep centers and occupational health services

Community:

* Broad venue of residential options, from oceanfront to metro to suburban living

* Affordable living with safe communities

* Excellent public, private, and higher education schools

* Diverse communities

* Abundant cultural enrichment

* Endless recreational activities

* User friendly international airport

Please send CV and correspondence to [email protected]

Contact Information

Please send CV and correspondence to [email protected]

 

[619]

Podiatrist​

San Diego, California

Am I a good match for this job?
Duties

The major duties of this position include but are not limited to: *

• Apply a wide range of professional theories, assessment methods and techniques to care for ill patients and those with Podiatric medical and surgical problems.
• Develop coherent treatment strategies.
• Incorporate new clinical procedures.
• Provide professional advice and consultation in care areas related to treatment of podiatric conditions.
• Effectively supervise and manage professional staff, especially students and residents.
• Correctly assess the qualifications and abilities of current and prospective employees.
• Interpersonal relationships, including conflict resolution and the ability to work collaboratively with other physicians and providers from a wide array of clinical services, specialties and departments.
• Work effectively with individuals or groups representing.
• Diagnose and treat medical and surgical disorders using the most appropriate techniques in providing quality care.
• Responsible for initial evaluation and overall workup, history and physicals, and admission of podiatric patients as needed. Clinical duties include but are not limited to Operating Room (experience in wide variety of standard podiatric surgical procedures and operations), in-patient rounds, Emergency Room and Outpatient Clinics. The staff podiatrist will be able to perform a wide variety of podiatric surgical procedures.
• May also supervise students and residents who rotate through the podiatry service.
• Participate in all surgical quality/performance improvement initiatives as appropriate.
• Participate in podiatry night call and perform emergency podiatric surgical procedures.
• Responsible for providing patients with education concerning their disease state and treatment regimen. The staff podiatrist will assess Veterans' risks and benefits associated with surgical procedures and will provide appropriate informed consent, so Veterans fully understand the important risks and benefits of surgical intervention.
• Complete all electronic, clinical, daily charting and documentation required by the Medical Center in a timely manner as appropriate, including outcomes reporting as appropriate.
• Consult with Medical Center staff on many patient- care issues.
• Enforces a policy of full disclosure. If there is a complication in the course of a patient's care, the staff podiatrist will discuss the untoward event, including the patient's options for second medical opinion or legal action, and will document these discussions in the chart (CPRS).
• Work effectively with patients and co-workers and will treat other health care professionals and patients' families with respect and dignity.
• Report administratively and clinically to the Chief of Podiatry. In addition, this individual may report to the Chief of Surgery for the program(s) to which he/she is assigned.

Additional duties can be discussed with the hiring manager.

Work Schedule: Monday through Friday, 8:00 am to 4:30 pm or department's discretion.
Pay: Competitive salary, annual performance bonus, regular salary increases
Paid Time Off: 50-55 days of paid time off per year (26 days of annual leave, 13 days of sick leave, 11 paid Federal holidays per year and possible 5 day paid absence for CME)
Retirement: Traditional federal pension (5 years vesting) and federal 401K with up to 5% in contributions by VA
Insurance: Federal health/vision/dental/term life/long-term care (many federal insurance programs can be carried into retirement)
Licensure: 1 full and unrestricted license from any US State or territory
CME: Possible $1,000 per year reimbursement (must be full-time with board certification)
Malpractice: Free liability protection with tail coverage provided.

To explore this opportunity further, please forward copy of your Curriculum Vitae to Michael McClafferty at [email protected] or (909)220-2510 .

 

[Aresnebula]

Podiatrist​

San Diego, California

Am I a good match for this job?
Duties

The major duties of this position include but are not limited to: *

• Apply a wide range of professional theories, assessment methods and techniques to care for ill patients and those with Podiatric medical and surgical problems.
• Develop coherent treatment strategies.
• Incorporate new clinical procedures.
• Provide professional advice and consultation in care areas related to treatment of podiatric conditions.
• Effectively supervise and manage professional staff, especially students and residents.
• Correctly assess the qualifications and abilities of current and prospective employees.
• Interpersonal relationships, including conflict resolution and the ability to work collaboratively with other physicians and providers from a wide array of clinical services, specialties and departments.
• Work effectively with individuals or groups representing.
• Diagnose and treat medical and surgical disorders using the most appropriate techniques in providing quality care.
• Responsible for initial evaluation and overall workup, history and physicals, and admission of podiatric patients as needed. Clinical duties include but are not limited to Operating Room (experience in wide variety of standard podiatric surgical procedures and operations), in-patient rounds, Emergency Room and Outpatient Clinics. The staff podiatrist will be able to perform a wide variety of podiatric surgical procedures.
• May also supervise students and residents who rotate through the podiatry service.
• Participate in all surgical quality/performance improvement initiatives as appropriate.
• Participate in podiatry night call and perform emergency podiatric surgical procedures.
• Responsible for providing patients with education concerning their disease state and treatment regimen. The staff podiatrist will assess Veterans' risks and benefits associated with surgical procedures and will provide appropriate informed consent, so Veterans fully understand the important risks and benefits of surgical intervention.
• Complete all electronic, clinical, daily charting and documentation required by the Medical Center in a timely manner as appropriate, including outcomes reporting as appropriate.
• Consult with Medical Center staff on many patient- care issues.
• Enforces a policy of full disclosure. If there is a complication in the course of a patient's care, the staff podiatrist will discuss the untoward event, including the patient's options for second medical opinion or legal action, and will document these discussions in the chart (CPRS).
• Work effectively with patients and co-workers and will treat other health care professionals and patients' families with respect and dignity.
• Report administratively and clinically to the Chief of Podiatry. In addition, this individual may report to the Chief of Surgery for the program(s) to which he/she is assigned.

Additional duties can be discussed with the hiring manager.

Work Schedule: Monday through Friday, 8:00 am to 4:30 pm or department's discretion.
Pay: Competitive salary, annual performance bonus, regular salary increases
Paid Time Off: 50-55 days of paid time off per year (26 days of annual leave, 13 days of sick leave, 11 paid Federal holidays per year and possible 5 day paid absence for CME)
Retirement: Traditional federal pension (5 years vesting) and federal 401K with up to 5% in contributions by VA
Insurance: Federal health/vision/dental/term life/long-term care (many federal insurance programs can be carried into retirement)
Licensure: 1 full and unrestricted license from any US State or territory
CME: Possible $1,000 per year reimbursement (must be full-time with board certification)
Malpractice: Free liability protection with tail coverage provided.

To explore this opportunity further, please forward copy of your Curriculum Vitae to Michael McClafferty at [email protected] or (909)220-2510 .

@Feli I wanna know why you laughed at this post.

 

[air bud]

My understanding is that's a fairly good job there's rear foot stuff included but you can't afford to live in San Diego on a VA salary as a podiatrist You're not kidding anybody

 

[air bud]

Podiatric Foot & Ankle Surgeon​

Suffolk, Virginia


Am I a good match for this job?
Podiatric Foot & Ankle Surgeon, Coastal Virginia | Suffolk, VA

Leading Multi-Specialty Group Seeks Podiatric Foot & Ankle Surgeon

Bayview Physicians Group has an immediate opportunity for a Board Certified/Board Eligible Podiatric Foot & Ankle Surgeon to join our established and growing surgical team in Suffolk, Virginia. This unique opportunity is perfect for a driven individual who wants to join a successful practice in a high-demand referral market.

What we offer:

• Above market earning potential (competitive compensation structure)

* Great work/life balance

* Practice located on a busy medical campus embedded inside a high-volume urgent care center

* Existing referral sources within busy multi-specialty medical group

• Modern EMR platform - eClinicalWorks (eCW) office-based EMR shared with Bayview's multi-specialties
• Full Benefits: Health, Dental, and Vision
• 401K Retirement
• CME allowance
• Paid time off
• Potential signing bonus
• Potential relocation allowance
• Malpractice and tail coverage

Responsibilities:

* Provide comprehensive podiatric care, including evaluation, diagnosis, and treatment of food and ankle conditions

* Perform surgical and non-surgical procedures related to foot and ankle pathology

* Manage acute and chronic conditions, including trauma, deformities, infections, and diabetic foot care

* Collaborate with urgent care, primary care, and other specialists within a multi-specialty medical group

* Participate in shared call coverage

* Utilize shared EMR to document patient care accurately and efficiently

Organization:

Bayview Physicians Group is one of Virginia's fastest-growing independent, multi-specialty medical groups. Founded in 1991, Bayview is a value-based organization committed to strengthening the doctor-patient relationship and delivering high-quality, cost-effective care.

We proudly manage a successful Accountable Care Organization (ACO) serving more than 45,000 covered lives, providing physicians with the resources and infrastructure needed to focus on what matters most-patient care.

Organization Overview

• Serving South Hampton Roads, Virginia
• Locations across Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Chesapeake, Suffolk,

* More than 300 providers including:

o Primary Care

o Specialty

o APPs

• 75 + outpatient care sites
• 7 urgent care clinics (NowCare)
• Ambulatory surgery centers
• Advanced diagnostic imaging (CT), onsite lab services
• Sleep centers and occupational health services

Community:

* Broad venue of residential options, from oceanfront to metro to suburban living

* Affordable living with safe communities

* Excellent public, private, and higher education schools

* Diverse communities

* Abundant cultural enrichment

* Endless recreational activities

* User friendly international airport

Please send CV and correspondence to [email protected]

Contact Information

Please send CV and correspondence to [email protected]

I believe this has been posted for quite a long time There's no way it's still available because this sounds like a pretty good job. Have a buddy who practices in Suffolk and is slammed with good rear foot and ankle work.

 

[Feli]

@Feli I wanna know why you laughed at this post.

My understanding is that's a fairly good job there's rear foot stuff included but you can't afford to live in San Diego on a VA salary as a podiatrist You're not kidding anybody

 

[podiatryresident]

From what I know is they're receiving and interviewing a lot of good candidates such as 6-10 years exp and certified ABFAS in both!

 

[Feli]

From what I know is they're receiving and interviewing a lot of good candidates such as 6-10 years exp and certified ABFAS in both!

Yes. It's podiatry... hundreds of apps for any job with good income or popular location (this has both, mostly the latter).

Podiatry hospital jobs in Ohio or even Iowa or Oklahoma get same interest levels. Any non-associate gig in a popular place is also venerated. That's how saturation works.

You can still apply if you like the job/income/area. It's just amazing we tussle and are happy to relocate for salaries or places MD/DO surgeons wouldn't hardly consider. It'll get even more wild in years to come as the minimal/non op guys continue to retire... and are replaced by "fellowship trained foot and ankle surgeon."

 

[Toenail]

Yes. It's podiatry... hundreds of apps for any job with good income or popular location (this has both, mostly the latter).

Podiatry hospital jobs in Ohio or even Iowa or Oklahoma get same interest levels. Any non-associate gig in a popular place is also venerated. That's how saturation works.

You can still apply if you like the job/income/area. It's just amazing we tussle and are happy to relocate for salaries or places MD/DO surgeons wouldn't hardly consider. It'll get even more wild in years to come as the minimal/non op guys continue to retire... and are replaced by "fellowship trained foot and ankle surgeon."

Indeed. I had applied to rural hospitals in places like West Virginia and South Dakota where the recruiters let me know that they stopped taking applications after the first 100+ poured in within a week of the ad going live.

 

[NTT123]

Indeed. I had applied to rural hospitals in places like West Virginia and South Dakota where the recruiters let me know that they stopped taking applications after the first 100+ poured in within a week of the ad going live.

Yup, very true.

Nearly every MSG, orthopedic, or hospital-employed position paying over $200,000 receives 100+ applicants within a week.

Why? It's simple: there is an oversupply of students and podiatrists relative to the available job market.

There is no student recruitment crisis. That narrative has been pushed by podiatry schools and profession leaders for years!!

The real crisis is the podiatry job market.

Why are so many podiatrists willing to take unpaid call? Because of a saturated job market.

Why are so many podiatrists willing to serve as expert witnesses against other podiatrists? Because of a saturated job market.

Why do so many private equity groups or pp owner offer low-ball salaries to new graduates? Because of a saturated job market.

Instead of addressing the real issue, many profession and school leaders continue to focus on recruiting more students into an already oversaturated market. The result is increased competition for jobs, downward pressure on salaries, and greater challenges for young podiatrists trying to build their careers.

If we truly care about the future of the profession, we need to have an honest discussion about workforce supply, job opportunities, and long-term career sustainability.

But they won’t do it because they all can profit from this crisis.

 

[Feli]

Indeed. I had applied to rural hospitals in places like West Virginia and South Dakota where the recruiters let me know that they stopped taking applications after the first 100+ poured in within a week of the ad going live.

...Nearly every MSG, orthopedic, or hospital-employed position paying over $200,000 receives 100+ applicants within a week.

Why? It's simple: there is an oversupply of students and podiatrists relative to the available job market...

Correct, I helped post/filter some MSG and hospital jobs back when I had those type of jobs...
The amazing part is not just the number of applications but the SPEED they come in for any reasonable podiatry job post.

Sure, a lot applying are just graduating residents/fellow (or even pgy2 sometimes) who are applying to everything that is not a typical associate PP or supergroup job. However, the majority of the applications are associate podiatrists a few years or even a decade or more into career (often local to the job or at least in same state) who must be checking for new job posts every week or even every day. It's sad.

...I simply can't fathom MD/DO surgeons who've passed boards and 5-10yrs out applying to VA and IHS jobs for $250k or less, eager to move cross-country if they get offered the spot. For the MDs in govt employ, it's usually just the more desperate ones who've had malpractice or license discipline or didn't pass boards or twilight of their career or something to even consider that route (well, those ones and then a few fresh-out-of-school going for PSLF and loan forgive). The fact that podiatrists - even fairly high quality ones - covet these govt hospital jobs that MD/DOs view as a last resort tells you all you need to know of our job market.

 

[Toenail]

Yup, very true.

Nearly every MSG, orthopedic, or hospital-employed position paying over $200,000 receives 100+ applicants within a week.

Why? It's simple: there is an oversupply of students and podiatrists relative to the available job market.

There is no student recruitment crisis. That narrative has been pushed by podiatry schools and profession leaders for years!!

The real crisis is the podiatry job market.

Why are so many podiatrists willing to take unpaid call? Because of a saturated job market.

Why are so many podiatrists willing to serve as expert witnesses against other podiatrists? Because of a saturated job market.

Why do so many private equity groups or pp owner offer low-ball salaries to new graduates? Because of a saturated job market.

Instead of addressing the real issue, many profession and school leaders continue to focus on recruiting more students into an already oversaturated market. The result is increased competition for jobs, downward pressure on salaries, and greater challenges for young podiatrists trying to build their careers.

If we truly care about the future of the profession, we need to have an honest discussion about workforce supply, job opportunities, and long-term career sustainability.

But they won’t do it because they all can profit from this crisis.

Thankfully pre-meds can see through the BS lies from podiatry schools and admissions have plummeted.

 

[Homo sapien]

Thankfully pre-meds can see through the BS lies from podiatry schools and admissions have plummeted.

Good

 

[Sendin_Toes_2market]

Yup, very true.

Nearly every MSG, orthopedic, or hospital-employed position paying over $200,000 receives 100+ applicants within a week.

Why? It's simple: there is an oversupply of students and podiatrists relative to the available job market.

There is no student recruitment crisis. That narrative has been pushed by podiatry schools and profession leaders for years!!

The real crisis is the podiatry job market.

Why are so many podiatrists willing to take unpaid call? Because of a saturated job market.

Why are so many podiatrists willing to serve as expert witnesses against other podiatrists? Because of a saturated job market.

Why do so many private equity groups or pp owner offer low-ball salaries to new graduates? Because of a saturated job market.

Instead of addressing the real issue, many profession and school leaders continue to focus on recruiting more students into an already oversaturated market. The result is increased competition for jobs, downward pressure on salaries, and greater challenges for young podiatrists trying to build their careers.

If we truly care about the future of the profession, we need to have an honest discussion about workforce supply, job opportunities, and long-term career sustainability.

But they won’t do it because they all can profit from this crisis.

Renegotiated contract. Many fellows would give a kidney for what I am making. At APMA this year I asked an old member of the board about this and they had no answer…

I just find it crazy WV and ND get 40+ apps. Internal medicine at my last facility on the mid East Coast was making +500k, because no one else would take the job.

 

[Adam Smasher]

Nor sure where to post this so might as well here:

In the past year I've had a FA ortho and a Fellowship trained Foot and Ankle Surgeon™️ move into neighboring suburbs where I practice. My elective surgeries have dwindled to bunions and pf releases. Yep there's a dpm shortage on the horizon.

But I grossed 71k on diabetic shoes in 2025 🦞

 

[deleted1235332]

Nor sure where to post this so might as well here:

In the past year I've had a FA ortho and a Fellowship trained Foot and Ankle Surgeon™️ move into neighboring suburbs where I practice. My elective surgeries have dwindled to bunions and pf releases. Yep there's a dpm shortage on the horizon.

But I grossed 71k on diabetic shoes in 2025 🦞

So diabetic shoes are worth it? Thought it was a paperwork nightmare and doesn’t reimburse well.

 

[Adam Smasher]

So diabetic shoes are worth it? Thought it was a paperwork nightmare and doesn’t reimburse well.

You need to make a checklist. Paperwork for shoes isn't as bad as the paperwork for skin subs. Also having trained staff to do the fittings is key. I make the diagnosis, give an rx to my office mgr, and she tracks everything down. Next thing I know, the pt is in a new pair of shoes and I've barely done anything.

Profits are about $150 per pair. Which is as ok as it gets in a saturated marketplace. The really awful thing is shoe pts can act entitled and insufferable. But that's what makes it lobster work: no one else wants to do this.

 

[air bud]

Indeed. I had applied to rural hospitals in places like West Virginia and South Dakota where the recruiters let me know that they stopped taking applications after the first 100+ poured in within a week of the ad going live.

You have one week tops usually you need to be on things within the first 24 to 48 hours to have any type of chance.... Source: me who lived this life

Again as I've spoken multiple times you got to have a killer cover letter.

 

[deleted1235332]

the worst jobs out there are the only ones available that’s why people only last 1-2 years at their first job.

Only plan on moving your family across the country a few times if you want to keep your family.

Solo PP is the way otherwise

 

[air bud]

the worst jobs out there are the only ones available that’s why people only last 1-2 years at their first job.

Only plan on moving your family across the country a few times if you want to keep your family.

Solo PP is the way otherwise

I will continue to advocate the importance of geographic arbitrage and promiscuity. It's not unique to our specialty within medicine it's not unique to our profession. Your mom can send you cookies in the mail instead of you going over to her house to pick them up.... It doesn't mean it's forever. Is it harder without family nearby for child care and other stuff Yes. But it's doable.

 

[Mia McBhul]

I will continue to advocate the importance of geographic arbitrage and promiscuity. It's not unique to our specialty within medicine it's not unique to our profession. Your mom can send you cookies in the mail instead of you going over to her house to pick them up.... It doesn't mean it's forever. Is it harder without family nearby for child care and other stuff Yes. But it's doable.

it takes a long while for fresh grads to realize this. However, many (if not most) never come to this realization....pretty pathetic to see pods in their 50s and 60s accept job offers of $120K base salary because they refuse to be flexible regarding zip codes. This is the current reality of our profession.

 

[Adam Smasher]

Marriage/divorce doesn't come up here much but I definitely know of people who are stuck in an area geographically because their spouse works there and moving for your career just to upend theirs is not necessarily a good decision. Divorce makes it even harder. You get an opportunity, but need to move away from an ex and mess up a child custody agreement.

The solution is "suck it up buttercup" but let's not act like people don't do things to prioritize their family life

 

[NTT123]

Marriage/divorce doesn't come up here much but I definitely know of people who are stuck in an area geographically because their spouse works there and moving for your career just to upend theirs is not necessarily a good decision. Divorce makes it even harder. You get an opportunity, but need to move away from an ex and mess up a child custody agreement.

The solution is "suck it up buttercup" but let's not act like people don't do things to prioritize their family life

The wife may run away after she discovers that the resident “surgeon” husband she spent years supporting is finally going to make attending salary at $130k in lucrative private practice, while carrying $350k in student debt at 8% interest and taking unpaid weekend call twice a month

 

[air bud]

YMMV

 

[wakaflocka88]

Can someone repost the Dave Ramsey episode about the wife calling in regarding her Foot and Ankle Surgeon husband

 

[Feli]

Can someone repost the Dave Ramsey episode about the wife calling in regarding her Foot and Ankle Surgeon

Classic, nd very true...

Post in: 'We must do better'

Apr 18, 2024

Do you have a link to that? I want it....badly

Ditto... I'd offer a $100 (or 4 pairs PowerSteps) reward for that episode link. Hilarious but also very sad the state of DPM jobs and ROI...

Edit... I found it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen to or Watch The Ramsey Show (click the April 17th "Don't Rationalize Stupid Money Decisions" and go to 29min mark for the audio... diff mark on the video )

It's 34min mark in video:


Insanity. Gotta love the income reaction to podiatry wage, "that sounds LOW!!!" 🙁 (it is low AF for any other "surgeon")
Very sad stuff to be...

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[wakaflocka88]

Classic, nd very true...

Post in: 'We must do better'

Apr 18, 2024

Do you have a link to that? I want it....badly

Ditto... I'd offer a $100 (or 4 pairs PowerSteps) reward for that episode link. Hilarious but also very sad the state of DPM jobs and ROI...

Edit... I found it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen to or Watch The Ramsey Show (click the April 17th "Don't Rationalize Stupid Money Decisions" and go to 29min mark for the audio... diff mark on the video )

It's 34min mark in video:


Insanity. Gotta love the income reaction to podiatry wage, "that sounds LOW!!!" 🙁 (it is low AF for any other "surgeon")
Very sad stuff to be...

• Feli

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Thanks Feli

Mods - can we sticky this. Very relevant to our profession and it’s awesome this was outside of SDN

 

[deleted1235332]

APMA won’t like that Ramsey clip going viral.

 

[DarkPathMedicine]

Thanks Feli

Mods - can we sticky this. Very relevant to our profession and it’s awesome this was outside of SDN

I had to listen to that video once again 😂. A good refresher for sure. Right afterwards, they have the "Borrowed Future: How Student Loans Are Killing The American Dream" video advertised and you can watch it for free on YouTube.

 

[Aresnebula]

Again as I've spoken multiple times you got to have a killer cover letter.

Really? I thought cover letter was just something to fill in the gaps in your resume or to get a little more personal about yourself. You are telling me being ABFAS qualified and having over 1000 cases don't matter? I mean I guess I should believe it since no hospitals ever got back to me lol

 

[Stormblest]

State of Podiatry is just sad. Wonder if this is how all the pharmacist felt 10-15 years ago.

 

[heybrother]

Really? I thought cover letter was just something to fill in the gaps in your resume or to get a little more personal about yourself. You are telling me being ABFAS qualified and having over 1000 cases don't matter? I mean I guess I should believe it since no hospitals ever got back to me lol

A well done cover letter is a tailored story about why you chose them.

A graduating residents' resume is just another story in the trash cash. You're a reconstructive, trauma surgeon qualified by ABFAS? So are 100 other apps in the pile.

 

[Feli]

35:16 mark =

"Dave: What's he make?
Caller: He makes $180,000.

He just get out?
No. um, no.

That feels low for a surgeon.
And he's in podiatry. he's a foot and ankle surgeon.

I know, but they don't charge less.
That's about where -

Let's pretend he makes 200."

Classic. 🙁 Probably won't be a sticky, but it should be.
Low income DPMs are just dismissed as 'try harder' or 'should've done better,' but it's a very real thing.
Many are in a lot worse shape than this family.... lower pay, no owner/partner path, worse student/consumer debt load.

Really? I thought cover letter was just something to fill in the gaps in your resume or to get a little more personal about yourself. You are telling me being ABFAS qualified and having over 1000 cases don't matter? I mean I guess I should believe it since no hospitals ever got back to me lol

Cover letter is the most important thing... they don't usually read your resume/CV if cover letter's not good or interesting (assumes a human reading/screening apps). This is for nearly any job, not just docs/podaitry. It's always been that way.

And for many jobs/companies, AI now reads the cover letters... so you have to play to keywords and parrot back job description now more than ever before. It's been that way for tech for years, but more and more corporate employers use AI to speed up their HR now. But ya, whether trying to show a human reader you have area loyalty and humor and pertinent experience... or trying to get AI screening apps to show you match the skills/training/exp to get your CV evaluated or put you onto an interview possiblity list, you need a good cover letter. Definitely don't overlook it. 👍

 

[deleted1235332]

Marriage/divorce doesn't come up here much but I definitely know of people who are stuck in an area geographically because their spouse works there and moving for your career just to upend theirs is not necessarily a good decision. Divorce makes it even harder. You get an opportunity, but need to move away from an ex and mess up a child custody agreement.

The solution is "suck it up buttercup" but let's not act like people don't do things to prioritize their family life

Podiatry puts strain on relationships/spouses more in general than other medical specialties. Not talked about enough. Pre pods should know.

 

[NTT123]

Podiatry puts strain on relationships/spouses more in general than other medical specialties. Not talked about enough. Pre pods should know.

Don't forget the parents and other family members.

The 4-year graduation rate across podiatry schools is only about 80%. Roughly 1 in 5 students either fail out or take longer than four years to finish.

With the new federal loan cap. Most pre-pod may have to take out private loans that require a co-signer.

Now their parents or family members who co-sign those loans are going to be responsible for those 2-300k debts as well, even though they have nothing to do with the student's career decision.

 

[Homo sapien]

Don't forget the parents and other family members.

The 4-year graduation rate across podiatry schools is only about 80%. Roughly 1 in 5 students either fail out or take longer than four years to finish.

With the new federal loan cap. Most pre-pod may have to take out private loans that require a co-signer.

Now their parents or family members who co-sign those loans are going to be responsible for those 2-300k debts as well, even though they have nothing to do with the student's career decision.

So outside of maybe independently wealthy or students whose parents will give over their practices, podiatry is even less worth it

 

[air bud]

Really? I thought cover letter was just something to fill in the gaps in your resume or to get a little more personal about yourself. You are telling me being ABFAS qualified and having over 1000 cases don't matter? I mean I guess I should believe it since no hospitals ever got back to me lol

Is this a joke?

 

[Adam Smasher]

Podiatry puts strain on relationships/spouses more in general than other medical specialties. Not talked about enough. Pre pods should know.

Yeah some specialties almost surely have more stability than we do, but I'm sure pods have a better home life than neuro or CT surgeons

 

[Mia McBhul]

Classic, nd very true...

Post in: 'We must do better'

Apr 18, 2024

Do you have a link to that? I want it....badly

Ditto... I'd offer a $100 (or 4 pairs PowerSteps) reward for that episode link. Hilarious but also very sad the state of DPM jobs and ROI...

Edit... I found it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Listen to or Watch The Ramsey Show (click the April 17th "Don't Rationalize Stupid Money Decisions" and go to 29min mark for the audio... diff mark on the video )

It's 34min mark in video:


Insanity. Gotta love the income reaction to podiatry wage, "that sounds LOW!!!" 🙁 (it is low AF for any other "surgeon")
Very sad stuff to be...

• Feli

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This sounds so bad. You can hear the desperation in her voice.

 

[deleted1235332]

we have a crisis in podiatry. It’s not talked about enough. I am a newer residency graduate and there’s plenty of colleagues posting on Instagram or liking depressing posts about that the finish line was not worth it or that they want to leave medicine. I follow a lot of podiatry accounts and to see posts like this get likes by a lot of podiatrists means a lot of us are struggling more than we admit or show.

 

[Homo sapien]

we have a crisis in podiatry. It’s not talked about enough. I am a newer residency graduate and there’s plenty of colleagues posting on Instagram or liking depressing posts about that the finish line was not worth it or that they want to leave medicine. I follow a lot of podiatry accounts and to see posts like this get likes by a lot of podiatrists means a lot of us are struggling more than we admit or show.

I think for a lot of people it's embarrassing: that we felt conned or that we went through all this education for such little payoff. And then you have the folks who say :WELL YOU COULD BE WORKING RETAIL and that's ****ing annoying too.

 

[NTT123]

I think for a lot of people it's embarrassing: that we felt conned or that we went through all this education for such little payoff. And then you have the folks who say :WELL YOU COULD BE WORKING RETAIL and that's ****ing annoying too.

Yep and this is what podiatry leaders and elites see you as

 

[Bluecollarmed]

Really? I thought cover letter was just something to fill in the gaps in your resume or to get a little more personal about yourself. You are telling me being ABFAS qualified and having over 1000 cases don't matter? I mean I guess I should believe it since no hospitals ever got back to me lol

My cover letter was the main reason they didn't interview anyone else from the stack of applications they had. Your residency cases and ABFAS qualified puts you directly in line with every other resident from good programs across the country and directly behind those same people from a couple years out or good fellowships. Gotta standout somehow.

 

[air bud]

My cover letter was the main reason they didn't interview anyone else from the stack of applications they had. Your residency cases and ABFAS qualified puts you directly in line with every other resident from good programs across the country and directly behind those same people from a couple years out or good fellowships. Gotta standout somehow.

Yeah the cover letter is literally the most important thing. Your resume means nothing everybody says they're bored certified or qualified everybody says they can do this surgery or that surgery.... Here's a very simple how to get a hospital job cover letter. Remember it's a hospital they're used to people leaving for better things. You need to tell them why you are going to stick around what's your ties to the area if you're not born and raised there you better have at least visited there or you lived someplace similar or you know how to deal with the local challenges or something like that

Here's my name I'm bored qualified in this or that I can do this type of procedure or that type of procedure

New paragraph

Here's my ties to the area or why I'm interested in it. Here's some personal stuff I like to do all these things that are offered locally some stuff about your spouse

New paragraph

Here's all the way I'm going to bring value to the organization... For example I'm well versed in epic EHR I've been in hospital type settings and understand how to properly utilize downstream revenue including advanced imaging PT referrals pathology etc, I'm used to developing and running my own clinic with minimal staffing, doing outreach, blah blah blah

A couple years ago when I was doing a ton of interviews and getting a ton of initial responses all the follow-up was related to details in the cover letter. Nobody gives a crap about your resume it means nothing to anybody especially a non-clinical person in HR but they understand why doctors come someplace and why doctors leave and the cover letter is everything.

 

[air bud]

Your resume is an afterthought here's where you went to school here was your GPA here's where you did your training here's some prior work experience.

 

[Sendin_Toes_2market]

Yep and this is what podiatry leaders and elites see you as

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Kinda on point. Fair take. I guess I am elite af.