***Official Wayne State Application Thread***

[GujuMD]

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I can guarantee that it's not enthusiasm that they are looking for in the interview. Otherwise, I would'a been in like Flynn a long time ago.

I have a sneaky feeling that they put judgments on some of the answers to the questions they ask.

Ok, this time I didn't get asked the "What will you do if you don't get in this year" question, even though I had a really great answer prepared for them this time.

But I think maybe they somehow judge me incorrectly when I say that biochem is my favorite subject. Many clinical people feel their biochem education is worthless, while Dr. Liberman (The main lecturer for 1st Year Biochem at University of Cincinnati) makes a convincing argument against that in many of the clinical correlations. And medicine is moving in the direction of individualized treatments, based on genotype.

For example long QT syndrome for instance, has many different causes the most prevalent is acquired from drugs. However, there could be gain of function, or loss of function mutations in the sodium channel, the potassium channel or the ryanodine receptor within cardiac myocytes that lead to the long QT syndrome. *ends ramble*

Anyway, I just get the feeling that I get pigeon holed into the idea that they feel I would be better suited as a researcher, or something, when I know those are not the careers for me. Though I don't know for sure. Last year I heard tale that the Assistant Dean of Admissions would go over the weaknesses in your application, after the application period was over, but I did not investigate it because I had already become busy taking my 'medical school' courses down in Cincinnati.

How do others feel on the idea that they draw conclusions from some of the questions like "So what was your Highschool experience like" or "What is your favorite subject" and blah blah blah.

I know if I was an excellent interviewee I would be able to expertly be bring the question back to why I would be the most awesomest doctor ever, but I have trouble being in-modest enough to do that. 😉

how can they judge you negatively based on your favorite subject...people have different likes/dislikes and it should be respected. as long as you have a good reason as to why your favorite subject is favorite, why would it matter?

 

[Phosphorus]

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[GujuMD]

I guess i'm looking for some feedback on my Wayne chances, so let me know.

3.3 gpa
31Q
In State
Various volunteering/tutoring experiences. Upward grade trend (3.6 last two years). Planning to hopefully start my master's at wayne in the fall. No research.

your MCAT and your in-state residency gives you an edge over other apps. (although i am not sure the MCAT of the people who are waitlisted....i also have a 31) your GPA on the other hand seems to be on the low side.. do you have any clinical experience?

 

[Phosphorus]

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[Phosphorus]

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[GujuMD]

MCAT is a plus
GPA is not so great
EC is a plus
Residency is a plus

I say you have a good shot of getting accepted, assuming there are enough spots open and there aren't a lot of people with MCAT more than 31.

BUT I have no idea how your interview went or your PS or your LOR. those things have a huge affect too.

 

[Phosphorus]

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[thes_hunter]

how can they judge you negatively based on your favorite subject...people have different likes/dislikes and it should be respected. as long as you have a good reason as to why your favorite subject is favorite, why would it matter?

I don't think it should matter either.... but I just have a funny feeling that in their mind that it does. I could be totally wrong, I often am. 😉

 

[TMP-SMX]

thanks for your advice. I have not applied yet, but will begin the cycle this year. Hopefully some post graduate coursework (assuming with a high gpa) will help if i don't get in this time.

If you can do something strong this summer. Maybe start a research project? Wayne seems to be looking more for a bit of independent research in years past. Find a professor that has research that interests you and maybe you can continue with them for the next year. Payment is even better if you can manage it somehow.

 

[StringerBell]

lol. I want to attribute it to my lackluster interview there. It was the day after interviewing at a top 20 school

So dude! How did you do at that school? However, if you're still waiting on Wayne's waitlist, then I'm guessing you didn't get in there. 🙁 I don't know, it almost seems like you might be suffering from "We (Wayne) are his second choice, and we don't want to be a backup" syndrome.

I can guarantee that it's not enthusiasm that they are looking for in the interview.

I was a little over-enthusiastic, as well. When that happens, I tend to talk too fast, and overgesticulate. It was my first interview of the season - I calmed down a lot after that. Plus, my travel problems on the day before were uber-stressful (my connecting flight, and the two flights after, were cancelled, due to weather) and I didn't get into my hotel until 2:30 am. So I was a little wired the next day.

Ok, this time I didn't get asked the "What will you do if you don't get in this year" question, even though I had a really great answer prepared for them this time.

I said "cry."
That got a chuckle out of my interviewer, but then I gave her a legit answer.

How do others feel on the idea that they draw conclusions from some of the questions like "So what was your Highschool experience like" or "What is your favorite subject" and blah blah blah.

I was a little stunned at the high school question. I graduated from high school 13 years ago, probably right around the time that you (Thes_hunter) did. But all in all, I was comfortable with the interview. I felt it gave them an opportunity to get to know who I was, and the pressure was mild at its peak. No off-the-wall questions.

I actually haven't thought about my Wayne interview in months. My situation was kind of weird - my interviews were not grouped together. Each one was a month apart, and the last 3 were all D.O. schools. So by the time my last one was done, Wayne seemed like an eternity ago.

And every day on the waitlist from here on out will be an eternity, as well.

 

[dude1344]

So dude! How did you do at that school? However, if you're still waiting on Wayne's waitlist, then I'm guessing you didn't get in there. 🙁 I don't know, it almost seems like you might be suffering from "We (Wayne) are his second choice, and we don't want to be a backup" syndrome.

I'm waiting on Wayne, Pitt, Vandy, and UVa. Hopefully one will pull through for me. 😳

 

[StringerBell]

I'm waiting on Wayne, Pitt, Vandy, and UVa. Hopefully one will pull through for me. 😳

Dang, dude, good luck!
The wait must be killing you!

Of course, I'd rather be on 4 waitlists than one... 🙂

 

[dude1344]

Dang, dude, good luck!
The wait must be killing you!

Of course, I'd rather be on 4 waitlists than one... 🙂

Thanks. I hope your Wayne WL pulls through for yourself as well.

 

[spiel]

GL to me too!

sorry, i wasnt feeling the love there 🙂

 

[StringerBell]

GL to me too!
sorry, i wasnt feeling the love there 🙂

Yes, of course, no one is forgetting you, Spiel.
All the luck of the Irish to you with a bottle of Jameson's on top.

 

[spiel]

😛

We are all so due!

 

[StringerBell]

We are all so due!

First one to get taken from the waitlist buys a round!

 

[GujuMD]

Dang, dude, good luck!
The wait must be killing you!

Of course, I'd rather be on 4 waitlists than one... 🙂

yeah...but i'd rather have one acceptance (even if it's a DO) and one other MD waitlist then three waitlist and one unknown.

 

[GujuMD]

😛

We are all so due!

hopefully good news coming our way next couple weeks

 

[inside_edition]

First one to get taken from the waitlist buys a round!

i read up till "buys a round!" and thought you were the first one to get off the waitlist.

if i get off the waitlist, i'm going to spend every single day drunk until the start of school.

 

[inside_edition]

i read up till "buys a round!" and thought you were the first one to get off the waitlist.

if i get off the waitlist, i'm going to spend every single day drunk until the start of school.

wayne state should offer a complimentary bar night for the people who waited through the waitlist.

 

[StringerBell]

yeah...but i'd rather have one acceptance (even if it's a DO) and one other MD waitlist then three waitlist and one unknown.

You talkin' to me?
I don't have another MD waitlist. 🙂

(Me = 1 D.O. acceptance, 2 D.O. waitlists, Wayne Waitlist)

At what school is your unknown?
Is that even fair at this point?

 

[StringerBell]

if i get off the waitlist, i'm going to spend every single day drunk until the start of school.

If I get in off the waitlist I'm going to be spending 7:00-3:00 every day working in the lab, on stem-cell research. I'll take a 15-minute break, then I'm going to go volunteer at my local hospital, helping the geriatric patients take walks. All the while, I will be growing out my hair to make a wig for someone undergoing chemo. After shearing my locks, I will be spending 3 weeks in the under-served area of Umpapamaomao teaching English and giving free vaccinations. Using this experience, I will set up a free needle exchange program and drug education center in some of the needier areas of Detroit. And I'll be doing this all with one kidney, after donating the other to my half-sister.

(they're still watching!)

 

[spiel]

ill do same...plus give up a aprt of my lung!

 

[GujuMD]

You talkin' to me?
I don't have another MD waitlist. 🙂

(Me = 1 D.O. acceptance, 2 D.O. waitlists, Wayne Waitlist)

At what school is your unknown?
Is that even fair at this point?

the schools that i am unknown at is Rosalind Franklin. I interviewed there in Feb and after each meeting I call them and the only thing they tell me is that i was neither accpeted nor rejected. my app will be looked at in the next meeting. but they have been telling me this since early March. They haven't even said that i am waitlisted or anything, it sounds like a post-interview hold but they haven't really said anything so its preety much unknown.

 

[RayhanS1282]

While we are commenting on our crappy status, I'll throw in my hat as well. I got zero acceptances, one waitlist and a pending interview at SGU. How's that for suckiness factor?

 

[GujuMD]

While we are commenting on our crappy status, I'll throw in my hat as well. I got zero acceptances, one waitlist and a pending interview at SGU. How's that for suckiness factor?

SGU hasn't even decided if they are gonna interview me or not.

 

[GujuMD]

i hope about 3.5 years from now we are all sitting in the cafeteria of Wayne complaining about different residency program.

 

[RayhanS1282]

SGU hasn't even decided if they are gonna interview me or not.

Call your SGU admission counselor up ASAP. I got an invite within a few hours of being complete. They haven't provided a date yet...so I don't know if that is what you are referring to. But call 'em.

 

[inside_edition]

del

 

[GujuMD]

it won't be that much complaining especially if you know another guju.

what does that mean?

 

[RayhanS1282]

i hope about 3.5 years from now we are all sitting in the cafeteria of Wayne complaining about different residency program.

Speaking of the Wayne cafeteria, I bought a V8 juice during the lunch...nastiest thing I ever tasted.

 

[inside_edition]

Call your SGU admission counselor up ASAP. I got an invite within a few hours of being complete. They haven't provided a date yet...so I don't know if that is what you are referring to. But call 'em.

is SGU the school in the carib? if so, is it true that if you're able to pay in cash upfront and have decent stats then you'll be able to get in easily?

 

[inside_edition]

what does that mean?

nm. i lost my train of thought and wasn't able to word my sentence right.

 

[GujuMD]

Call your SGU admission counselor up ASAP. I got an invite within a few hours of being complete. They haven't provided a date yet...so I don't know if that is what you are referring to. But call 'em.

I think I am still not complete. I sent my application recently. My counselor emailed me that she received my app and will get back to me once all the material is in. i am assuming if everything goes well, my app should be complete by end of this week.

 

[inside_edition]

Speaking of the Wayne cafeteria, I bought a V8 juice during the lunch...nastiest thing I ever tasted.

one time i drank V8 (or something else similar to it) and it had MSG as one of the ingredients.

 

[GujuMD]

is SGU the school in the carib? if so, is it true that if you're able to pay in cash upfront and have decent stats then you'll be able to get in easily?

who knows?...it won't help me any...i have the decent stats just not the cash.

 

[StringerBell]

it won't be that much complaining especially if you know another guju.

what does that mean?

I think inside_edition might be referring to the user GujuDoc?
I actually always wondered if you were the same person, but I looked her up, and she has something like 13,000 posts.

 

[GujuMD]

Actually, sorta OT, but I've been wondering...isn't there another user named GujuDoc? And is that you or not you?

yes there is another user named gujudoc and no that is not me!

i didn't know there was another user named gujudoc until after i got my username.

 

[StringerBell]

yes there is another user named gujudoc and no that is not me!

Yeah, I just edited my post after doing some digging to find out who that was. But you're very quick on the reply!

 

[StringerBell]

Wayne State Alternate List 2006-2007
Bond8204 (I: 11/13; Wl: 11/31; OOS)
Chimera2K6 (I: Dec.;WL: Dec; In-state)
DrCurious (I:March. WL:April; OOS)
erwizkid (I:04/06; WL: 4/25; OOS)
flyingdutchman (I: Sept.; WL: Nov.; In-state)
GujuMD (I: 12/20, WL: 1/31; OOS)
HamburgerHelper (I: Jan, WL: Jan, In-state) *Going to MSU-CHM
inside_edition (I: Jan, WL: Jan, Instate)
notgettingin (I: March 23rd; WL: 4/25; OOS)
RayhanS1282 (I: 04/09; Wl: 04/25; OOS)
rayster (I: 2/15 WL: 2/28 In-state)
spiel (I: 1/10; wl 1/31; IS)
StringerBell (I: 1/22, W: 1/31; OOS)
Thes_hunter (I: 4/5, W: 4/45; IS)
tilhasteezy (wl Dec)

Acceptance Withdrawal: hlchess, Meli308314, ropeadope1983, scholj, senioritaelena, strongbow, xylem29, Yamaooka, yankeecanuckmd

Thought I'd bring back "the list" and merge it with the acceptance withdrawals.
I know it's a small sample size (SDN-only) but 14 active waitlisters and 8 withdrawals has to give us some glimmer of hope, right?

 

[GujuMD]

Wayne State Alternate List 2006-2007
Bond8204 (I: 11/13; Wl: 11/31; OOS)
Chimera2K6 (I: Dec.;WL: Dec; In-state)
DrCurious (I:March. WL:April; OOS)
erwizkid (I:04/06; WL: 4/25; OOS)
flyingdutchman (I: Sept.; WL: Nov.; In-state)
GujuMD (I: 12/20, WL: 1/31; OOS)
HamburgerHelper (I: Jan, WL: Jan, In-state) *Going to MSU-CHM
inside_edition (I: Jan, WL: Jan, Instate)
notgettingin (I: March 23rd; WL: 4/25; OOS)
RayhanS1282 (I: 04/09; Wl: 04/25; OOS)
rayster (I: 2/15 WL: 2/28 In-state)
spiel (I: 1/10; wl 1/31; IS)
StringerBell (I: 1/22, W: 1/31; OOS)
Thes_hunter (I: 4/5, W: 4/45; IS)
tilhasteezy (wl Dec)

Acceptance Withdrawal: hlchess, Meli308314, ropeadope1983, scholj, senioritaelena, strongbow, xylem29, Yamaooka, yankeecanuckmd

Thought I'd bring back "the list" and merge it with the acceptance withdrawals.
I know it's a small sample size (SDN-only) but 14 active waitlisters and 8 withdrawals has to give us some glimmer of hope, right?

assuming the SDN population gives us an accurate picutre ....8 withdrawals for 14 waitlisters is a nice amount.

 

[inside_edition]

assuming the SDN population gives us an accurate picutre ....8 withdrawals for 14 waitlisters is a nice amount.

plus, if some of the waitlisted people get accepted somewhere else and withdraw their waitlist at wayne, then it can lower the total number of waitlisted people.

 

[GujuMD]

plus, if some of the waitlisted people get accepted somewhere else and withdraw their waitlist at wayne, then it can lower the total number of waitlisted people.

this is giving me more hope!

 

[StringerBell]

assuming the SDN population gives us an accurate picutre ....8 withdrawals for 14 waitlisters is a nice amount.

plus, if some of the waitlisted people get accepted somewhere else and withdraw their waitlist at wayne, then it can lower the total number of waitlisted people.

Right, HamburgerHelper did that very thing.

I'm imagining a beautiful list, in which the number of withdrawals keeps increasing, and one-by-one, we put the "thumbs-up" 👍 icon next to our names as we get accepted at Wayne, or an indication of what other school we will be going to.

No one left behind!

 

[GujuMD]

Right, HamburgerHelper did that very thing.

I'm imagining a beautiful list, in which the number of withdrawals keeps increasing, and one-by-one, we put the "thumbs-up" 👍 icon next to our names as we get accepted at Wayne, or an indication of what other school we will be going to.

No one left behind!

lets hope it goes that way!

 

[thes_hunter]

I seem to be feeling the worry more this year than others. Or maybe I just don't remember I worried this much the other years. 😉


But yeah, I have the cloud hanging dread that very few will get off the waitlist this year. 🙁

Even though I know they seem to give the standard response of "We will not be making offers anytime soon, and we don't know if and when we will be making offers" as a baseline, so they don't promise anything they don't deliver. I know from last year they would give that response, and 2 days later there would be some waitlist movement. So all that response means is that there hasn't been anything done with any potential movement from people meeting the March 15th deadline.

I do know that there are some schools out there that haven't made decisions yet, like the poster above said about Rosalind Franklind.

I also know from past experience that if movement does happen, it generally doesn't happen until the 2nd week in June or so. But that doesn't help calm me down enough to study now. 😉

So here is hoping my worries are all for naught, and that there is waitlist movement, and we all are buying each other rounds when we all meet in August and form the "OMG we got off the waitlist" club.

 

[StringerBell]

I also know from past experience that if movement does happen, it generally doesn't happen until the 2nd week in June or so. But that doesn't help calm me down enough to study now. 😉

Well, crap. I guess I'll be waiting for June to roll around then. Good thing my last final is today, and then I can just obsess over SDN (like I haven't, already?)

So here is hoping my worries are all for naught, and that there is waitlist movement, and we all are buying each other rounds when we all meet in August and form the "OMG we got off the waitlist" club.

Just to let you know, I'm not a cheap drunk. 😉
I'll be needing some Johnnie Walker black and Ciroc Martinis.

 

[GujuMD]

I seem to be feeling the worry more this year than others. Or maybe I just don't remember I worried this much the other years. 😉


But yeah, I have the cloud hanging dread that very few will get off the waitlist this year. 🙁

Even though I know they seem to give the standard response of "We will not be making offers anytime soon, and we don't know if and when we will be making offers" as a baseline, so they don't promise anything they don't deliver. I know from last year they would give that response, and 2 days later there would be some waitlist movement. So all that response means is that there hasn't been anything done with any potential movement from people meeting the March 15th deadline.

I do know that there are some schools out there that haven't made decisions yet, like the poster above said about Rosalind Franklind.

I also know from past experience that if movement does happen, it generally doesn't happen until the 2nd week in June or so. But that doesn't help calm me down enough to study now. 😉

So here is hoping my worries are all for naught, and that there is waitlist movement, and we all are buying each other rounds when we all meet in August and form the "OMG we got off the waitlist" club.

grrrr! today has been a roller coaster day.

 

[thes_hunter]

Ok to depress us some more, sorry guys.

In my procrastination, I went looking through Last Year's Thread on waitlists, and using my Verbal Reasoning skillz....

I think the statement "The class is currently full, and we are not expecting to make any offers in the near future." might mean just that. That they have made all the offers from the associated March 15th drop date, (Which could have been 0), as you can see from last years discussion of how and why they would over accept.

But they seemed to be more forthcoming with numbers last year than this year. For example saying that they made 2 offers at one time, and another 8 offers at another time.

So we might not have anything more than a trickling of waitlist movement. (Which did seem to occur around the first and second weeks of June)

But to give us some hope, after I have dragged everyone else down into my depression. Two people active in that Waitlist thread last year got off the waitlist. So here's hoping that more of us are tapped for that.