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-DL said they will turn over bank records and submit interval updates to the court where the money is at, no need to freeze.
-DCCA said they have the students money, just put it into a escrow account. DCCA has bank subpoenas out but they wont come in until later next week.
-DL ask they need money to run the school and to pay for the property.
-Judge ask where property is (Kapolei), she ask how big (20 acres). Judge ask DL for paper work (but they dont any)
-(Basically they want to by 20 Acres, they deposit money for 3 Acres.)
-problem is that they deposit money, but there is no terms to the agreement. They dont know the purchase price
judge doesnt like this answer.
-DL said freezing asset will impede school operation
-Judge ask how many people complained
-DCCA said, 24 before, but number is up to 34 today, and they continue to trickle in. To put things into perspective, you need 2,800 UH students to complain to meet the same ratio
-Judge ask how much is $28K x 34 ~ $900,000
-Judge ask how many people are deferring. Basically the DCCA figured out that some people are playing both sides They complain, and deposit money
because the numbers add up to more then 240.
-DL said, putting away 900,000 will crimp the school from running
and that there werent enough money to run the school.
-Judge says do the emails (that believers been submitting to HICP) say, Do any of them say that we dont care weather not we can ever sit for the pharmacy board, we dont care if we the school never get accredited, we only want an education?
-DL just said, accreditation is just a risk for any opening school. DL said, they just need to submit and just wait and see how things turns out.
-Judge says, she believe that there are misrepresentation and unfair and deceptive practices
-DL goes back to the student handbook, and how they cant confirm who has what copy.
-Judge ask how many copies were there. DCCA said 2 versions. DCCA said even 2nd version doesnt list the board of directors, but still inherit problems from the 1st version.
-Judge ask how many students are in the courtroom, she ask how many are staying and how many are leaving
-Judge expresses her feelings that she is VERY concern about the students, parents, lives, dreams, promises, money, and weather she should decide to left the school continues or to freeze the account. She said maybe students should just tough it up and take this as a bad experience
-Judge ask Dr. Hasan about his background. Hasan answer with his gangster/special ed stuff.
-Judge ask DL who is devoting their time to running and maintain the school
-DL answered Monroe
-Monroe stands up telling his story, I grew up unprivileged, my mom dont even speak English, I didnt graduate HS, I got GED, I graduated from UH at the TOP of my class
my professor said I should go to the mainland for education and come back and bring my talents back to the community. So I went to Illinois, get graduated TOP of my class. I went to Nova, I am TOP of my class. I then worked under Rosenburg and learned under his principles, basically building a pharmacy school. I was the librarian, but I didnt serve as the librarian, I was the assistant professor of medical information resources. I worked at USN in 2000. I was full time faculty at USN (judge asks you didnt have to be on campus for school). There was a satellite building near/on USN campus. I had a dream just to open a pharmacy school. I understand there are mountains and difficulties but I will do everything to get accreditation because Im doing it for these guys (turns around and points to the students in the room) (he said he and Rosenberg knew what was going on). I am going to run this school (judge ask how do you expect to do that when u are in Florida). I am in my dissertation phase, I can be anywhere in the world (judge how much and when was your pay). My last pay was back in June 2003, I got paid $60,000.
-Judge ask him about pre-candidate status, and candidate status.
-M said he did submit a pre-candidate status application, and he can prove it because he has a cashiers check.
-Judge said its misleading because in the literature it says that there will be candidate status, on-site visit
.etc.
-Judge ask DCCA what is wants to do
-DCCA said, basically freeze asset
-Judge ask DCCA that freezing asset will close down school?
-DCCA say that may be the result
-DL again recommends that they will submit interval reports of where the money is at
-Judge then ask DCCA who they are speaking with
-DCCA said they talking to Private law firm that Represent ACPE, and talking to ACPE executive members. DCCA said the court can get ACPEs side of the story whenever they want.
-Judge ask if HICP has got money in for next year
-DL said yes,
-DL then questions DCCA about who they contacted about accreditation, ACPE or ACPE lawyers? And they dont know who express the opinion that HICP being accredited wasnt optimistic
-DCCA said they spoke with both ACPE and ACPE lawyers and both of them express the same opinion.
-Judge as DL, if they want to confirm DCCA statement
-Judge ask Hasan if he contacted ACPE
-Hasan said he met in May and June with ACPE, and that primary concern is Number and Resources
-Judge ask Hasan what ACPE told him
-Hasan said ACPE sent him papers saying that they didnt want him to use their names and make statements
-Judge said okay, let me rephrase on the next application what number will you put
-Hasan shifts the point and tells her the Top 100, 2nd 100 plan
and basically rank students how they adapted the curriculum and how well they master the material
they are hiring faculty to lower the ratio. They have 13 FULL TIME PROFESSORS, and 13 PART TIME PROFESSORS.
-Judge goes back to the property/land issue.
-Monroe said PBR and Pacific West Coast Development are negotiating to build the entire university. They spend 400,000 in design and 200,000 locked in escrow to release the first 3 acres.
-DCCA counters by saying, they dont know what is going on. First they want a pharmacy school
now they want to dental and nursing school. DCCA said in the material that it said Maryl Group was building the building. Maryl group said they are noting doing anything now because of M&C, and if they started, it wont be for another 2 years before it was finished.
I RAN OUT OF BATTERIES, whats next is out of memory,
-Criswell then stands up and says that it was Maryl group because they had problems, HICP just wanted to lease to own
-Monroe says that the funding is coming from their investors. Judge ask who are the investors
-M said Pacific West Coast Developers (basically PWCD is investing in the building, but they have no money to run the school)
-After all of this, Judge ask if anyone wants to say anything.
-One of the Brother of a couple of students said that, his brothers had a dream, and it was not fair to break their dream because of 34 other students have their dreams broken (this only makes sense if the 34 students were from the bottom, which they are not).
-Then Student A stood up for the school, saying the school is good and he learned a lot
-Then Student B said No, this school is misleading and the school is a mess.
-Final Conclusion
-The Judge then says, that Its hard for her, because its dealing with more then just money, its peoples lives, family life saving. She said M&C are not creditable, and that the situation might be different if the people who ran the school were creditable and knew what they were doing. She was REALLY MAD that M&C would call themselves Dr. when they are truly not. She granted the injunction to freeze all assets.
-After that, the DL contested on that they needed some money to pay for outstanding balance, pay for his legal services.
-Judge: Im not really concerned if you (the DL) gets paid or not, Im more concerned in returning the money to the students
-Judge ask DCCA how much money they had
-DCCA said in one bank account it was $-400,000 (Yes, negative $400K). They have 2 other bank accounts with about 2 Million total cash
-The accountant girl, Scott Banks assistant, pointed out that faculty havent been paid for 3 weeks, and that they want to get paid.
-Judge: Im not really concerned if you(the DL) gets paid or not, Im more concerned in returning the money to the students
-DL also said if all asset frozen then M&C can live or survive
-Judge said
ok, we will have another meeting tomorrow to come up with a PRIORITIZE list of who gets paid first.