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I say we send in LVPharm for some good old espionage!

 

[DayDreamer]

The students are not allowed to speak to ACPE or e-mail ACPE. ACPE told HICP that they did not want students contacting them ( according to HICP faculty and Dr. Hasan). The faculty said if you want to bring the school down then go and call ACPE. Students are scared and feel they would be responsible if they were to call ACPE. Just like to put this out there in case you wonder why HICP students don't call ACPE .

 

[Caverject]

I saw we send in LVPharm for some good old espionage!

he has better things to do than be a troll....

 

[bananaface]

Why worry about a rumor? Go straight to the source and get the answer. Call ACPE or contact ACPE via email and ask them straight up what the deal is. That is the only way you'll know for sure.

Earlier in this thread I posted a link to a portion of ACPE's website which contains their own report of proceedings for the meeting in which HICP's application was reviewed. The denial of their application and the accompanying recommendation to withdraw it is a matter of record and easily accessible.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=2259790&postcount=33


An excerpt from http://www.acpe-accredit.org/news/default.asp

V. Accreditation Actions for Professional Degree Programs, taken at the ACPE Board of Directors Meeting, January 13-15, 2005

Note: A list of accredited professional degree programs of colleges and schools of pharmacy, which designates the respective accreditation status of the programs and the academic year for the next currently scheduled evaluation, is posted on the ACPE web site at www.acpe-accredit.org .

Accreditation Actions

On the basis of self-studies, on-site evaluations, communications received from the institutions and the comments of the Public Interest Panel, the Board of Directors determined the accreditation status of the following professional programs, along with customary terms and conditions.

A newly instituted professional program of a college or school of pharmacy may be granted one of two preaccreditation statuses, precandidate or candidate, depending upon its stage of development. In the instance of a newly founded college or school of pharmacy, the programs generally progress through both statuses. Precandidate: A new program that has no students enrolled, but meets basic ACPE eligibility criteria, may be granted precandidate accreditation status. This indicates that the college's or school's planning for the professional program(s) has taken into account ACPE standards and suggests reasonable assurances of moving to the next step, that of candidate status. Full public disclosure by the college or school of the terms and conditions of precandidate status is required. Candidate: A new program that has students enrolled but has not had a graduating class may be granted candidate status. The granting of candidate status denotes a developmental program, which has taken into account ACPE accreditation standards and is expected to mature in accord with stated plans within a defined time period. Reasonable assures exist that the program will become accredited as programmatic experience is gained, generally, by the time the first class has been graduated. Graduates of a class designated as having candidate status have the same rights and privileges as graduates of a program that has accreditation status.

An action to “affirm” implies that a previously established accreditation term has been confirmed. An action to “continue” implies that the accreditation date has been extended. The customary cycle of review for accredited programs is six years. The dates indicated in parentheses for each College or School are the academic year of the most recent determination of accreditation status and the academic year of the next scheduled determination of accreditation status, and thus define the present accreditation term for the Doctor of Pharmacy program. If additional on-site monitoring has been requested through a focused visit, this is so indicated and the proposed date is noted.

The accreditation actions are as follows:
For Purposes of Considering Continued Accreditation Status

Albany College of Pharmacy
Doctor of Pharmacy Program: accreditation was continued. (2004-2005; 2010-2011)

Temple University School of Pharmacy
Doctor of Pharmacy Program: accreditation was continued. (2004-2005; 2010-2011)

University of Georgia College of Pharmacy
Doctor of Pharmacy Program: accreditation was continued. (2004-2005; 2010-2011)

Ferris State University College of Pharmacy
Doctor of Pharmacy Program: accreditation was continued. (2004-2005; 2010-2011)

The Ohio State University College of Pharmacy
Doctor of Pharmacy Program: accreditation was continued. (2004-2005; 2010-2011)

For Purposes of Considering Advancement from Candidate Accreditation Status to Full Accreditation Status

University of Puerto Rico Medical Sciences Campus School of Pharmacy
Doctor of Pharmacy Program: candidate status was affirmed. (2002-2003; 2004-2005)


For Purposes of Consideration of Application for Preaccreditation Status

Southern Illinois University Edwardsville
Doctor of Pharmacy Program: precandidate status was granted. (2004-2005; 2005-2006)


New School Applications: For Purposes of Consideration of Authorization of On-site Evaluations

Precandidate:

Texas A&M University-Kingsville School of Pharmacy
An on-site evaluation was not authorized. The institution was advised to resubmit an appropriately revised application.

Touro University College of Pharmacy- California
An on-site evaluation was authorized to be conducted during spring 2005, so as to provide the basis for the Board's consideration of precandidate accreditation of the Doctor of Pharmacy program at its June 2005 meeting.

University of Appalachia College of Pharmacy
An on-site evaluation was authorized to be conducted during spring 2005, so as to provide the basis for the Board's consideration of precandidate accreditation of the Doctor of Pharmacy program at its June 2005 meeting

Candidate:

Hawaii College of Pharmacy
An on-site evaluation was not authorized. The institution was advised to withdraw its application.


Monitoring During the Accreditation Period
Interim Reports

Interim reports for the professional programs of the following colleges/schools were reviewed:

Auburn University School of Pharmacy (1999-2000; 2005-2006)

Campbell University School of Pharmacy (2003-2004; 2009-2010)

Hampton University School of Pharmacy (2003-2004; 2004-2005)

Oregon State University College of Pharmacy (1999-2000; 2005-2006)

Shenandoah University Bernard J. Dunn School of Pharmacy (1999-2000; 2005-2006)

South Dakota State University College of Pharmacy (2002-2003; 2008-2009)

University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center School of Pharmacy (2001-2002; 2007-2008)

University of Connecticut School of Pharmacy (2000-2001; 2006-2007)

University of Florida College of Pharmacy (2000-2001; 2006-2007 with a focus visit in 2004-2005)

University of Illinois at Chicago College of Pharmacy (2001-2002; 2007-2008)

University of Louisiana at Monroe School of Pharmacy (2004-2005; 2005-2006)

University of Mississippi School of Pharmacy (1999-2000; 2005-2006)

University of Rhode Island College of Pharmacy (2003-2004; 2009-2010)

Western University of Health Sciences College of Pharmacy (1999-2000; 2005-2006)

Wilkes University Nesbitt School of Pharmacy (2002-2003; 2006-2007)


Focused On-site Evaluation Visits

Board and Staff focused on-site evaluation visits are authorized when the Board is desirous of additional on-site monitoring to evaluate various programmatic issues. An action to “affirm” implies that a previously established accreditation term has been confirmed. An action to “continue” implies that the accreditation date has been extended usually to reestablish the customary six-year cycle.

Xavier University of Louisiana College of Pharmacy
The accreditation of the Doctor of Pharmacy program was continued with a two-year term. (2004-2005; 2006-2007)

Wayne State University Eugene Applebaum College of Pharmacy
The accreditation of the Doctor of Pharmacy program was continued with a four-year term. (2004-2005; 2008-2009)

Rutgers, the State University of NJ Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy
The accreditation of the Doctor of Pharmacy program was affirmed. (2000-2001; 2006-2007)

Texas Southern University College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences
The accreditation of the Doctor of Pharmacy program was affirmed. (1999-2000; 2005-2006)

 

[J Lucas]

The students are not allowed to speak to ACPE or e-mail ACPE. ACPE told HICP that they did not want students contacting them ( according to HICP faculty and Dr. Hasan). The faculty said if you want to bring the school down then go and call ACPE. Students are scared and feel they would be responsible if they were to call ACPE. Just like to put this out there since you wonder why HICP students don't call ACPE .

That must be a horrible feeling. But on the other hand I got this bridge to sell...
I am not trying to be a jerk but won't this situation just get alot worse before it gets any better if at all? Has anyone thought about going to the local newspapers?You never know, the right person reading could make all the difference. Maybe get local support going..Thats crazy I just can't see myself just sitting there being lied to and do nothing.

 

[lava2]

It's a real shame that HICP students Believe anything and everything Hasan says to them. Just observe the man, take a look at what he's accomplished. Do you actually think he's the person you want leading your college? It seems as if many students at HICP have NO FIGHT in them and if someone tells you to jump off a bridge you'll jump.

I am not trying to offend any students, but if over 30,000 people have viewed your thread, it's obviously for a reason. Realize!!!!!!! Let's put an end to this!!!!!!!!Don't give them another cent of your hard earned money..
Demand to be heard, Take Action!!! Just don't sit there and do nothing while you are getting violated and abused as a student...

"Believe or Leave" That's really ethical and educational.

 

[hawaii90210]

I believe Dr. Phan is a relative or sister to one of the HICP student.

Lisi- Do you know who she is?

Dr. Phan is one of our classmate's sister. what is HICP think?? even the elected president of HPhA is having a hard time finding sites for us and she still got FIRED by the "Great Hasan". What make them think that this new PharmD who only been working for 2 yrs will get us sites? 😱 gluck w that HICP... I know for sure they will not get any pennies from me next year....

 

[Glycerin]

The students are not allowed to speak to ACPE or e-mail ACPE. ACPE told HICP that they did not want students contacting them ( according to HICP faculty and Dr. Hasan). The faculty said if you want to bring the school down then go and call ACPE. Students are scared and feel they would be responsible if they were to call ACPE. Just like to put this out there in case you wonder why HICP students don't call ACPE .

And for the last time, you ARE allowed to contact ACPE. If any of the HICP faculty told you otherwise, then consider the source. 🙄

 

[LVPharm]

I say we send in LVPharm for some good old espionage!

Thanks, but I've got better sense than to climb onboard a sinking ship

...my good professional judgement and reputation would drown! You think pharmacy's a small world? Try academic pharmacy...

 

[LVPharm]

he has better things to do than be a troll....

THAT must mean you really don't have better things to do! 😉

 

[nikkai]

New Hire!!!

I'd love that as a part time job. =D

 

[Steady-State]

Dear Students:

Until further notice, please submit all EPE work that you have done directly to Dr. Hasan. For those of you who do not know this, his e-mail address is [email protected]. If you have any questions or if you would like to set up an appointment to meet with him on a Thursday, please feel free to call or e-mail me. Thank you and have a nice day!

Tammara L. M. Kato

Senior Admi



Here's an email sent to us to turn in our Early Practical Experience assignments that were previous turned into Dr. Borja to Dr. Hasan. Shouldn't Dr. Phan be looking at them? How would Dr. Hasan know what to do with it?

Dr. Hasan made us write a paper (2nd module cumulative paper). He has yet to return those to us. What was the point of even giving the assignment if you’re not going to grade them or give them back? How would he know what is a valid answer, if he wasn't even in the courses or have any pharmacy knowledge to validate the info.

 

[lisi]

And for the last time, you ARE allowed to contact ACPE. If any of the HICP faculty told you otherwise, then consider the source. 🙄

DITTO

 

[Roxicet]

The students are not allowed to speak to ACPE or e-mail ACPE. ACPE told HICP that they did not want students contacting them ( according to HICP faculty and Dr. Hasan). The faculty said if you want to bring the school down then go and call ACPE. Students are scared and feel they would be responsible if they were to call ACPE. Just like to put this out there in case you wonder why HICP students don't call ACPE .

That's just sick and wrong! It reminds me of someone's creepy uncle telling them "it's our little secret, and if you tell anyone, something bad will happen to your parents."

 

[lava2]

That's just sick and wrong! It reminds me of someone's creepy uncle telling them "it's our little secret, and if you tell anyone, something bad will happen to your parents."

Exactly! Basically what is unraveling in front of everyones very own eyes at HICP is flat out WRONG 😡 AND UNJUST!!!! The pharmacy profession is being humiliated and insulted by Hasan, Criswell,MOnroe and their followers.

Doesn't any pharmacy professional feel that this is their moral obligation to voice themselves, to stand up and say "What you have done is Wrong and we will not allow this to happen" 👍 Given that this profession holds ethics and standards very high.

It is obvious that the students feel trapped and most have a limited knowledge regarding ACPE, WASC, and Academia, not to mention law, this is the only reason I can see of why they are not voicing themselves and taking over what was THEIR SCHOOL, and now is HASAN and SCOTT Banks SCHOOL OF PHARMACY.
Next thing you know, they will be selling PharmD degrees ONLINE.

 

[hiprayer]

Not all of us have a limited knowledge of ACPE rules and regulations. We are just stuck in a situation where we have to all make choices. We were again told in our State of College Address that if we called ACPE we would be kicked out of school. Please Help US!!!!!!!!!

 

[Caverject]

Not all of us have a limited knowledge of ACPE rules and regulations. We are just stuck in a situation where we have to all make choices. We were again told in our State of College Address that if we called ACPE we would be kicked out of school. Please Help US!!!!!!!!!

do any of you record lectures or this guy's speeches?

 

[DayDreamer]

OMG OMG!!!! They told us about PLAN A! All lies again, and again, and again. I don't understand why they keep telling us lies. I wonder who is writing the ACPE report since Dr. Borja is no longer writing it anymore. I'm sure it's somebody who is not qualified to take the exam anymore. Dr. Hasan is going to present his amazing PLAN A (taking vocational courses at National University) to ACPE next week. 😱 I'm sure ACPE is just glad to see them *sarcasm*** I just can't believe that some students are eating up all of Monroe and Hasan words.

 

[DayDreamer]

Not all of us have a limited knowledge of ACPE rules and regulations. We are just stuck in a situation where we have to all make choices. We were again told in our State of College Address that if we called ACPE we would be kicked out of school. Please Help US!!!!!!!!!

😕Isn't it funny that they will kick you out if you call ACPE, but they won't kick you out if YOU CHEAT ON AN EXAM!?!?!?!?! Also, how are they going to know if you call ACPE or not? Dr. Hasan and Monroe are so FULL of themselves. You never EVER put FEAR in students. NEVER! We paid $30,000 to be LIED to. SO UNETHICAL!!!!!! All they want is MONEY MONEY MONEY! BELIEVE OR LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give me a BREAK!!!

 

[thespoken12]

I can't beleive that this is going on! Why does the students still put up with this so call Dr. Hussein or Dr. Making Money Monroe? Do something about it if all of these crazy rumors and news are true!!!

 

[DayDreamer]

I can't beleive that this is going on! Why does the students still put up with this so call Dr. Hussein or Dr. Making Money Monroe? Do something about it if all of these crazy rumors and news are true!!!

😕

 

[hawaii90210]

can someone give me a little bit more info on this school?? and exactly how is affiliated with national university will help us with accreditation? isn't NU a vocational trade school?
another "interesting" thing is that they hired Dr. Vietz Vu (is that how u spelled her first name?) Isnt she one of the classmate's wife?? Now her husband can just chill in her class cause he'll guarantee a passing grade for sure..........
once again they threatened us NOT to call ACPE or else we'll kick out.. and also threatened us not to talk about our problems among each other or we'll be charged with felony???? what is going on with those greedy money madness HASAN AND MONROE........ Very UNETHICAL!!!!!

BTW: DR. Susie phan just got her degree last June,04. she only works for 1 yr. how experienced she is to secure all sites for at least 100+ students even when other schools have troubles finding site for their own schools too. think about that!!!!!

 

[JudynM]

😕Isn't it funny that they will kick you out if you call ACPE, but they won't kick you out if YOU CHEAT ON AN EXAM!?!?!?!?! Also, how are they going to know if you call ACPE or not? Dr. Hasan and Monroe are so FULL of themselves. You never EVER put FEAR in students. NEVER! We paid $30,000 to be LIED to. SO UNETHICAL!!!!!! All they want is MONEY MONEY MONEY! BELIEVE OR LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give me a BREAK!!!

You don't have to worry because by July 15 or the last day of school. You can go home and say good bye to all of this! 😕 it's just a matter of time and your time will be up

 

[JudynM]

You don't have to worry because by July 15 or the last day of school. You all can go home and say good bye to all of this (even your $ too)! it's just a matter of time and your time will be up!

 

[GetLost_Hawaii]

They told us that HICP is affiliated with UCMI....

 

[monroehasan]

can someone give me a little bit more info on this school?? and exactly how is affiliated with national university will help us with accreditation? isn't NU a vocational trade school?
another "interesting" thing is that they hired Dr. Vietz Vu (is that how u spelled her first name?) Isnt she one of the classmate's wife?? Now her husband can just chill in her class cause he'll guarantee a passing grade for sure..........
once again they threatened us NOT to call ACPE or else we'll kick out.. and also threatened us not to talk about our problems among each other or we'll be charged with felony???? what is going on with those greedy money madness HASAN AND MONROE........ Very UNETHICAL!!!!!

BTW: DR. Susie phan just got her degree last June,04. she only works for 1 yr. how experienced she is to secure all sites for at least 100+ students even when other schools have troubles finding site for their own schools too. think about that!!!!!

hahahahahhahah..... are you kidding me???? hicp students, let me tell you monroe's & hasan's plan C: hire as cheap as possible so they can run away with as much as possible of what's left from your $7 mil. simple & dirty truth! how? after they secure an accreditation DENIAL from acpe with those crap !!! (yes, you heard me, DENIAL, not approval 😎 )


"ACPE, help me close down this *f* hicp so I can retire nicely & legally with their *f* money. oh but not so soon, let me collect another round of $7 mil. hmmm, not possible? ok $3 mil would be fine this time hahahahahahhahhhahhha ......"


tell me hicp students, do you really think acpe's going to accredit your school with those newbies/husband-wife faculty? and what the *f*, dont tell me that you're going to affilliate with this:
http://www.nusystem.org/Institutions/CMI.html
so you can get a pharm tech degree????????? at what time did you change your mind from a pharm D to pharm tech?????????????



anybody has a record of what they tell you? let me know & I'll tell you what they're up to ....

 

[bananaface]

😕

Just to clarify, the user "thespoken12" is a previously banned troll who returned to stir up trouble.

 

[monroehasan]

Lava,
Which source of search engine that u used to search for info on this guy? i've heard "rumors" about him not finishing his residency. is that true?
thanks

http://depts.washington.edu/pha/cpe/SCJC/syllagendajc 4 20 04.pdf

April 20, 2004 and this guy was still a pharm D candidate, so when did the respectable therapeutics professor who is going to put together your therapeutics curriculum actually graduate? 2004 or 2005?????

read ACPE standards: http://www.acpe-accredit.org/pdf/ACPE_Revised_Standards_Draft_1.2_with_Appendices.pdf

STANDARDS FOR FACULTY AND STAFF

Standard No. 24. Faculty and Staff: Quantitative Factors
The College or School must have a critical nucleus of full-time faculty and staff,
supplemented by part-time and volunteer faculty and staff, sufficient to effectively
deliver and evaluate the professional degree program, while providing adequate time for
faculty development, research and scholarly activities, service and pharmacy practice.

Standard No. 25. Faculty and Staff: Qualitative Factors
The College or School must have qualified faculty and staff who, individually and
collectively, are committed to the mission, goals and objectives, respect their colleagues
and students, and foster their development. Faculty must possess the required
professional and academic expertise, contemporary knowledge and abilities in current
educational philosophy and techniques, and be committed to the advancement of the
profession, and the pursuit of research and scholarly activities. The College or School
must have an effective professional development program for full-time, part-time, and
voluntary faculty and staff, consistent with their respective responsibilities.
Faculty whose responsibilities include the practice of pharmacy must satisfy all
professional licensure requirements that apply to their practice.

 

[jdpharmd?]

and what the *f*, dont tell me that you're going to affilliate with this:
http://www.nusystem.org/Institutions/CMI.html
so you can get a pharm tech degree????????? at what time did you change your mind from a pharm D to pharm tech?????????????

I doubt that HICP could get accredited to certify techs at this point in the game.

 

[bananaface]

http://depts.washington.edu/pha/cpe/SCJC/syllagendajc 4 20 04.pdf

April 20, 2004 and this guy was still a pharm D candidate, so when did the respectable therapeutics professor who is going to put together your therapeutics curriculum actually graduate? 2004 or 2005?????

UW's courses end in early June. He would have been finishing his 4th year at that time, probably doing an academic rotation.

 

[bananaface]

To clarify publicly, one account is allowed per user. Pick an account and stick with it.

 

[lava2]

It was very educational to hear David MOnroe and H.A.Hasan directly threaten students that IF Anyone called ACPE to say "the sky is falling", or just to complain that YOU ARE OUT,GONE!!!" Not once or twice, but multiple times the owner, Monroe and the Leader of the College directly threatened students. Monroe said that anyone who calls Acpe will automaticall be gone from the college for "NOT FOLLOWING PROTOCOL." I never knew there was a protocol. What protocol? Can a student please elaborate for me.

 

[lava2]

Here are a few quotes directly from David Champion Monroe, C.O.O of Hawaii College of PHarmacy and H.A. Hasan, Dean/Interim DEan of HICP.

"We ARE going to get accredited and We are going to make candidate status!!"-Hasan
"if you don't Believe, LEAVE, LEAVE!!!!! 2X'S" "We need to get our numbers down anyway" "IF you don't LIKE ME Go!!-Get out!!--If you can't FOLLOW ME-LEAVE!!!Go!!"
"Are you gonna PUNK OUT NOW?!!!Leave NOW!!!" "You Better NOT abuse our new Faculty/Staff, I'm going to protect them like a lion!!" "I have a heavy Hand....."--H.A. Hasan

These words came out of his mouth on 6/16 at the town hall meeting. This is how he speaks to Doctor of Pharmacy students, adults. This is the person leading HICP, a College of PHarmacy. If this isn't Verbal Abuse, and an unhealthy, non-productive ENVIRONMENT, than what is? This is coming from the mouth of a "Ph.D", and "Educator." Not to mention before and after he stated all this he kept repeating, "I LOVE YOU," to all the students, and even said his life and death is for them.
I have NEVER in MY entire LIFE ever heard such hippocracy, such lies..
Between Monroe and Hasan, I don't know who is worst. They pretty much mirror one another and compliment eachother for their idiotic and dillusional believes.

I firmly believe these people leading the college do not live in realistic and sane world.
Just 20 minutes in a room with them will lead you to conclude that there are serious mental issues pending.
For the sake of the pharmacy community, the individuals leading/organizing this college, "organization" must have a reality check.

 

[JudynM]

Here are a few quotes directly from David Champion Monroe, C.O.O of Hawaii College of PHarmacy and H.A. Hasan, Dean/Interim DEan of HICP.

"We ARE going to get accredited and We are going to make candidate status!!"-Hasan
"if you don't Believe, LEAVE, LEAVE!!!!! 2X'S" "We need to get our numbers down anyway" "IF you don't LIKE ME Go!!-Get out!!--If you can't FOLLOW ME-LEAVE!!!Go!!"
"Are you gonna PUNK OUT NOW?!!!Leave NOW!!!" "You Better NOT abuse our new Faculty/Staff, I'm going to protect them like a lion!!" "I have a heavy Hand....."--H.A. Hasan

These words came out of his mouth on 6/16 at the town hall meeting. This is how he speaks to Doctor of Pharmacy students, adults. This is the person leading HICP, a College of PHarmacy. If this isn't Verbal Abuse, and an unhealthy, non-productive ENVIRONMENT, than what is? This is coming from the mouth of a "Ph.D", and "Educator." Not to mention before and after he stated all this he kept repeating, "I LOVE YOU," to all the students, and even said his life and death is for them.
I have NEVER in MY entire LIFE ever heard such hippocracy, such lies..
Between Monroe and Hasan, I don't know who is worst. They pretty much mirror one another and compliment eachother for their idiotic and dillusional believes.

I firmly believe these people leading the college do not live in realistic and sane world.
Just 20 minutes in a room with them will lead you to conclude that there are serious mental issues pending.
For the sake of the pharmacy community, the individuals leading/organizing this college, "organization" must have a reality check.

So then, for all that goes on here, what does that makes you a "chicken" or 👎

 

[hicphelp]

So then, for all that goes on here, what does that makes you a "chicken" or 👎

"chicken"? I don't think so. You missed the man's face the other day when students told him in his face what he's got to run this school without a Pharm D and that students may know more than him. Also since that day he needs more security to protect his chicken ***. Good work students!

 

[hiprayer]

After all the thing that has happend to us "students" Hasan told us we need to check ourselves out in front of a mirror and see how we handle ourselves when things are down. He was complaining about the semi-riot that occured when Dr. Miyahara was fired. What a joke!! I hope this ends soon. It cant possibly continue. What is happening is a tragedy to all Students. They are disrespecting all Pharmacy Schools and all Graduate Programs in the world. Taking advantage of Students trying to reach their goals is wrong.

Please student thinking about coming here...dont make the same mistake we did. I promise you will regret it. Wait to see what happens. Dont rush things like we did. Waiting a year to go to a real school will be worth the wait. I PROMISE!! This year has been hell for us. A lot of us are still in denial of what has actually happend. We have been abused verbally all year long. We have been lied too...we have been taken advantage of. Dont make the same mistake.

They are planning to open a dental and nurse anestheslology program as well. All they care about is making money and taking advantage of students. I hope this doesnt happen again...ever!!!!!!

 

[GetLost_Hawaii]

Their plan A seems so perfect...just waiting Dr. Hasan comes back after having a meeting with ACPE.

 

[JudynM]

After all the thing that has happend to us "students" Hasan told us we need to check ourselves out in front of a mirror and see how we handle ourselves when things are down. He was complaining about the semi-riot that occured when Dr. Miyahara was fired. What a joke!! I hope this ends soon. It cant possibly continue. What is happening is a tragedy to all Students. They are disrespecting all Pharmacy Schools and all Graduate Programs in the world. Taking advantage of Students trying to reach their goals is wrong.

Please student thinking about coming here...dont make the same mistake we did. I promise you will regret it. Wait to see what happens. Dont rush things like we did. Waiting a year to go to a real school will be worth the wait. I PROMISE!! This year has been hell for us. A lot of us are still in denial of what has actually happend. We have been abused verbally all year long. We have been lied too...we have been taken advantage of. Dont make the same mistake.

They are planning to open a dental and nurse anestheslology program as well. All they care about is making money and taking advantage of students. I hope this doesnt happen again...ever!!!!!!

You all are not chicken? Are you sure you are not coming back? If so, then who are you? Reveal yourself like the "ex-pres" and stand your ground. If all this is true then why are you afraid and go on here? Maybe you are coming back after all and all this is just a rumor because things are not going your way? 👎

 

[JohnUNLV]

Their plan A seems so perfect...just waiting Dr. Hasan comes back after having a meeting with ACPE.

what exactly is their 'Plan A' ? Splitting the class up?

 

[JackBeanstalk]

"Reveal yourself like the "ex-pres" and stand your ground"

This is the most absurd thing I've ever read. One of the perks of the internet is to able to operate under anonymity. There are no gains or vindication for anyone to reveal themselves on a public message board. I question your motives. Alas, you've been deep throated.

 

[JudynM]

"Reveal yourself like the "ex-pres" and stand your ground"

This is the most absurd thing I've ever read. One of the perks of the internet is to able to operate under anonymity. There are no gains or vindication for anyone to reveal themselves on a public message board. I question your motives. Alas, you've been deep throated.

It quite simple. Some comes on here and profess they do this and that, like not spend another penny, and so on, but yet are still here wasting their money, contributing to the Hawaii economy like food, gas, rent, etc. What hippocrisy? There are no motives, if a person try to say something that is truthful they don't have to hide themselve! Think about it on a broader SENSE...if you are no longer here
it makes sense, but since you're still around, you're only wasting more money and your time!

 

[J Lucas]

"Reveal yourself like the "ex-pres" and stand your ground"

This is the most absurd thing I've ever read. One of the perks of the internet is to able to operate under anonymity. There are no gains or vindication for anyone to reveal themselves on a public message board. I question your motives. Alas, you've been deep throated.

I disaree! No, one is saying to paste a copy of your drivers license or anything extreme like that. The senior class pres "JohnHICP" introduced himself without revealing too much personal info with no problem..
This is so crazy. The only reason I keep checking this thread is hoping to see a post like "Hi Im "Jane" from HICP and If fed up with being lied to and disrespected to, if anyone else from our school feels the same way, please contact me so we can finally salvage whats left of our dignity and demand some answers!"
Or something along those lines.

 

[BMBiology]

JudynM- Why does it matter who's the messenger?

Instead of attacking the messenger, you should attack his messenge. Tell us what he said is false. Tell us the reasons why you are staying for another year. Attacking the messenger serves you no purpose and does not in any way change his messenge. It only reflects your inability to defend yourself.

 

[JudynM]

JudynM- Why does it matter who's the messenger?

Instead of attacking the messenger, you should attack his messenge. Tell us what he said is false. Tell us the reasons why you are staying for another year. Attacking the messenger serves you no purpose and does not in any way change his messenge but instead, it reflects poorly on you and your inability to defend yourself.

Let me rephrase this: Instead of attacking me, we should attack the false messenger. Tell me why I should not and I'll tell you why you should "wasting $ and time." Attacking me won't do you no good because it reflects poorly on your judgment to comprehend the truth.

 

[BMBiology]

I am in no way "attacking" you. I, however, want this forum to be opened to all of those who want to post without any retribution.

I could actually careless about you or your identity. You have not made any valid points or even defended your position in a coherent matter. This only makes HICP look bad. I urge you to keep on posting. =)

I will definately write another formal complaint to the ACPE about HICP this weekend. Thanks for cementing my desire to keep on informing the ACPE.

 

[hicphelp]

JudynM- Why does it matter who's the messenger?

Instead of attacking the messenger, you should attack his messenge. Tell us what he said is false. Tell us the reasons why you are staying for another year. Attacking the messenger serves you no purpose and does not in any way change his messenge. It only reflects your inability to defend yourself.

You are right.

We are here to share our findings & let the pharmacists community know what's going on at HICP. What's happening at HICP is such a shame & should never ever be replicated elsewhere. Also important is to let the students who's planning to join HICP know what they're walking into and think twice before they make up their mind. If anybody like to express themselves and stand their ground they are welcome to do so, we're very interested to know who they are (if they consider it not "chicken") and what they're here for. And thank you for worrying about wasting our money, we'll make sure that any penny of it is well spent and NOT WASTED. And what's wrong with contributing to Hawaii's economy? its such a beautiful island 😛

 

[JudynM]

I am in no way "attacking" you. I, however, want his forum to be opened to all of those who want to post without retribution.

I could actually careless about you or your identity. You have not made any valid points or even defended your position in a coherent matter. This only makes HICP look bad. I urge you to keep on posting. =) /QUOTE]

Let me rephrase: I am in no way writing about the word "attack" however I want the forum to be opened to anyone who wants to write even if it will hurts other.

I could actually careless less about you or what will happened to you. I have not made my point nor defend myself coherently. I know this only mades me look bad but I urge other to keep posting whatever they want even if it hurts me too.

 

[hicphelp]

what exactly is their 'Plan A' ? Splitting the class up?

plan A: affiliate with some vocational school in California (National University California Medical Institute) to send students there for one year then they come back & the whole class (>200 students graduate at the same time). How: only Dr Hasan knows! Note: the vocational school currently has an accredited PHARM TECH program.

plans B: if plan A fails, split the class into 2 & half will have to defer for one year, either by voluntary deferment or lottery.

any comments?

 

[JudynM]

You are right.

We are here to share our findings & let the pharmacists community know what's going on at HICP. What's happening at HICP is such a shame & should never ever be replicated elsewhere. Also important is to let the students who's planning to join HICP know what they're walking into and think twice before they make up their mind. If anybody like to express themselves and stand their ground they are welcome to do so, we're very interested to know who they are (if they consider it not "chicken") and what they're here for. And thank you for worrying about wasting our money, we'll make sure that any penny of it is well spent and NOT WASTED. And what's wrong with contributing to Hawaii's economy? its such a beautiful island 😛

I know I am right. Thank you. 🙂 it's june 17, 4 oclock 50 minutes and 23 seconds; hawaii time

 

[Glycerin]

I know I am right. Thank you. 🙂 it's june 17, 4 oclock 50 minutes and 23 seconds; hawaii time

His/Her comment of "you are right" wasn't directed at you, as he/she quoted BMBiology, not you.

JudynM- Why does it matter who's the messenger?

Instead of attacking the messenger, you should attack his messenge. Tell us what he said is false. Tell us the reasons why you are staying for another year. Attacking the messenger serves you no purpose and does not in any way change his messenge. It only reflects your inability to defend yourself.

You are right.

We are here to share our findings & let the pharmacists community know what's going on at HICP. What's happening at HICP is such a shame & should never ever be replicated elsewhere. Also important is to let the students who's planning to join HICP know what they're walking into and think twice before they make up their mind. If anybody like to express themselves and stand their ground they are welcome to do so, we're very interested to know who they are (if they consider it not "chicken") and what they're here for. And thank you for worrying about wasting our money, we'll make sure that any penny of it is well spent and NOT WASTED. And what's wrong with contributing to Hawaii's economy? its such a beautiful island