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[Animal Midwife]

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@Animal Midwife you're giving me ridiculous deja vu with this right now, and I already deal with enough of that sort of thing in my old age

What?

 

[genny]

I'm using up my word quota chit chatting with Dubz on messenger.

Could you use a few of your words over here to tell us your take on the current state of affairs?

 

[WildZoo]

I was disagreeing with the interpretation of AM

The interpretation that she had asked few questions?

 

[JustPaws]

The interpretation that she had asked few questions?

Stagg being iffy on AM's activity. I feel good about the current level, I'll let you know if that changes.

 

[Stagg737]

So there's a lot I noticed and can post on later, but this is what stuck out to me and things that I directly want to address.

lynch stagg

I feel like the last time he argued so much about a day 1 vote, he was a wolf defending his RNG.

No. The game you're thinking of is Lurking, which was my 4th game I believe. I've played ~10 games since then and had to defend my D1 votes for Sporty all the time. You've played with me enough to know this and this seems like a casual way to shade me with a weak vote justification. Why else do you find me wolfy?

Nope, it's not game related, and I have no interest in answering it. Has no effect on my villagerness or wolfiness in this game.

Lol ok. You’re literally reading through previous games and applying peoples prior game play directly to how they’re playing this game.

If that’s not sketchy enough, it looks like you joined SDN solely for the purpose of playing WW?

Once again, you are bringing in stuff that is outside from the game, and detracting from it. If you have an issue with me, bring it to pm, this isn't the place to air out stuff.

This is SHADY. AS. F***. Cubs asks for Navi's info so we can also look up their wolf meta and Navi says that they won't do it and that it's irrelevant anyway while Navi does exactly that for everyone else. Double shady because Navi actually called Cubs out for trying to bring in stuff from outside games when that has literally been half their reads. If it's not wolfy then it's hypocritical AF and I don't like it. Major sketch points to the people saying this isn't sketch as well.

And in case you want to research me I wolfed in Lurking Below and was a convert in the Noobs in Space game and Family Tree. I was also the lone wolf in a speed game. Good luck with that though, lol.

I think this is a discussion that should be off this thread. We are an open community it's ok if he came just to play

That's fine, how do you feel about them asking what games everyone wolfed in but refusing to provide their own?

I find Stagg's insistence on voting Sporty yesterday sketchy as heck, especially since he said he had zero feels for Sporty as a wolf.

Again, wat? I was NOT insistent on voting for Sporty and said multiple times I'd move if I had a reason to or if I felt she was at risk for getting lynched without good reason. Idk if you're misreading or intentionally throwing shade, but you're moving out of my village reads today...

I don't know what Stagg is talking about. I've been very active.

Yesterday you posted over 50 times. Up to my post you'd only posted ~10 and several were tally updates and only a few were your usual questions. I'm not reading you wolf, but it was a pattern I felt was worth pointing out.

Did anything happen to anyone over night? Asking because in past games people have had things happen to them (i.e. someone gets watched, someone uses an item to collect info).

Barks pointed out a lot of what I've seen so far (long post yesterday that didn't actually contribute that much, the post from the quote above seeming off, etc). Something I'd like to add though is regarding the bolded. I found it really odd that she's asking if anything happened on thread as if she didn't know anything had happened at all and literally her first example is "someone got watched" which is the only thing that was explicitly stated on thread. I find this especially strange since I feel like we usually say things like "tracked" or "seered" and use the phrase "watched" less frequently. It feels like someone fed her information for her to ask about to make her participation seem more meaningful.

I also find it interesting that Navi seems to have been in the camp of her being sketchy then immediately thought it seemed less sketchy as soon as they found out EM is more of a noob. Seems like a question that could have knowingly been set up to help them both gain village cred.

 

[PippyPony]

What?

It doesn't matter, I am just spiraling down into a dark place of deep crazy right now. Please hold while we attempt to restore normal vestibular system function.

 

[jaboo]

It's just that staypos sounds like an HIV commercial :-/

I mean we could also call you pos but I feel like you wouldn’t like that for some reason...

 

[dolphin106258]

@Doggo Labs I believe I asked a question on a response to one of your posts earlier did you ever answer it? Just want to make sure I didn’t skim over it in reread.

 

[jaboo]

I know you have a headache but I'd like to hear more about why you think mutts is village if when/you return

Mutts is reading noob to me, aka pretty neutral

 

[genny]

I'm thinking Pips. She seems to have gotten super defensive and upset. I'm also thinking about that no vote, her reasoning sounds solid.

Yeah, I'd agree with you there: if it's w/v, I think Pippy is the wolfier one in the interaction. But not for the interaction itself, more for her laissez-faire attitude on D1. Pippy as a villager usually has no chill. Today has seemed more like what I expect village Pip to sound like.

 

[WildZoo]

Mutts is reading noob to me, aka pretty neutral

Ok. Was expecting you to be reading her village if you're theorizing that wolves set her up as some kind of...other village counter to zig yesterday (though I'm still not sure I'm following that theory).

 

[jaboo]

Staying on my Dubz vote for now, but I’m keeping a close eye on Pips, cubs, and dolph

 

[jaboo]

Ok. Was expecting you to be reading her village if you're theorizing that wolves set her up as some kind of...other village counter to zig yesterday (though I'm still not sure I'm following that theory).

Well zig was leading all day so I extrapolated that anyone on the lynch train if zig flipped village was going to be scrutinized.

 

[genny]

You've played with me enough to know this and this seems like a casual way to shade me with a weak vote justification. Why else do you find me wolfy?

And you've played with me enough to know that I pretty much always find you wolfy, especially when you're a wolf.

 

[PippyPony]

This is SHADY. AS. F***. Cubs asks for Navi's info so we can also look up their wolf meta

Pfffft. You're all going to comb through a bunch of other games all of a sudden instead of reading posts in this game because you're incapable of getting a read on a new player without an extensive history? Bull$hit.

 

[jaboo]

Warning: jbooze is here

 

[JustPaws]

That's fine, how do you feel about them asking what games everyone wolfed in but refusing to provide their own?

I'm fine with it, and if they don't want to tell us another site's handle then so be it. Maybe they are a king just trying to joust in a competition without everybody forfeiting. Sometimes you just wanna reinvent yourself.

 

[WildZoo]

Well zig was leading all day so I extrapolated that anyone on the lynch train if zig flipped village was going to be scrutinized.

Are you looking at people who switched off of zig?

I don't remember if anyone did, just wondering

 

[genny]

Warning: jbooze is here

oh no

 

[WildZoo]

oh no

Oh yes

 

[JustPaws]

Warning: jbooze is here

Maybe this is why you get lynched lol 😉

 

[Doggo Labs]

Can you elaborate on this, please?

I was tired of the overly dramatic responses to my choice not to vote, but I am now intrigued by you bringing it back up as something potentially wolfy (but not sure? maybe village?) while simultaneously telling me I had solid reasoning.

You were one of the nooblets I didn't want to vote for yesterday, btw. Would you have preferred I had gone after you full tilt on D1?

Yeah probs not, I think I may be overanalyzing everything in my head and trying to put words to it. My thoughts definitely sounded better in my head, may not have just been this interaction or both days as a whole, but something sparked my asking of this...

@Doggo Labs I believe I asked a question on a response to one of your posts earlier did you ever answer it? Just want to make sure I didn’t skim over it in reread.

I must have missed your question, I don't remember seeing one from you.

Yeah, I'd agree with you there: if it's w/v, I think Pippy is the wolfier one in the interaction. But not for the interaction itself, more for her laissez-faire attitude on D1. Pippy as a villager usually has no chill. Today has seemed more like what I expect village Pip to sound like.

That's good to know

 

[Lawpy]

Warning: jbooze is here

oh no

Oh yes

I support the jboozy


Oh and I'm also super behind and catching up

 

[SportPonies]

Could you use a few of your words over here to tell us your take on the current state of affairs?

Pippy v AM nonsense since I last posted feels w/v but I don’t know who is which. I also historically am not good at reading either of them so I’m not putting much weight in that evaluation right now.

Nav seems Village right now. Mutts seems Village as I stated previously. Still voting for em because she feels wolfy.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yesterday you posted over 50 times. Up to my post you'd only posted ~10 and several were tally updates and only a few were your usual questions. I'm not reading you wolf, but it was a pattern I felt was worth pointing out.

Why did you point it out then?

 

[cubsrule4e]

Sorry, turned into a slightly rough and choatic day for me. Several longer posts throughout the day that skimming doesnt quite do justice for, so I am not fully caught up except for the last page or two. I wasnt making anything personal with navi, just pointing out the hypocrisy/principle of it. Clearly upset pippy and/or paws, I apologize, although pippy in general does seem to be a little on the impatient side overall today. No, I would not go read through a bunch of his old games, again, was just making a point that at least Stagg seemed to understand.

 

[Melchizedek]

D2 The People Want More Bread Official Tally
Nav () -
Mutts (4) - AM, Lawpy, dubz, Dina
Paws (2) - Nav, MsP
genny (1) - mutts
dubz (2) - dolphin, jboo
Stagg (1) - genny
emmy (4) - Barks, Pippy, Sporty, Stagg
Doggo (1) - Paws

15/18 Voting
@muttmanager and @emlady09 you are tied for the lead!

Lynch closes in ~1 hrs
Missing: @Doggo Labs @cubsrule4e @emlady09

 

[genny]

If it's not wolfy then it's hypocritical AF and I don't like it.

I kind of agree with this. And yet I'd feel like a jerk for lynching Nav so soon. Pretty sure there are other wolves to find.

 

[muttmanager]

### unlynch genny, lynch emmy ###
Self prez obvi

 

[JustPaws]

Clearly upset pippy and/or paws

Oh I'm not upset just like to keep people feeling welcome. I see your point I just think it's best to let it go cuz they aren't changing their mind.

 

[genny]

### unlynch genny, lynch emmy ###
Self prez obvi

Nothing I said today made any difference in your read of me?

 

[Animal Midwife]

### unlynch genny, lynch emmy ###
Self prez obvi

There's still an hour left.

 

[Navilly]

Sorry, turned into a slightly rough and choatic day for me. Several longer posts throughout the day that skimming doesnt quite do justice for, so I am not fully caught up except for the last page or two. I wasnt making anything personal with navi, just pointing out the hypocrisy/principle of it. Clearly upset pippy and/or paws, I apologize, although pippy in general does seem to be a little on the impatient side overall today. No, I would not go read through a bunch of his old games, again, was just making a point that at least Stagg seemed to understand.

There is a difference between you not knowing one person in the game’s meta and me not knowing anyone in the game’s meta. And I still don’t know anyone’s meta, everything has to be surface analysis for me because I don’t have the time to develop meta for 20 people, while also looking at past games to understand previous mechanic types at play. You are not the one at a significant disadvantage here, I am. This was brought up on another thread with me being a hypocrite. There is a difference between personal attacks and calling me a hypocrite and something that will actually affect this game. If you wouldn’t look my games up anyway, then it doesn’t have relevance to this game, it just boils down to commentary on me. Personally I tend to be a more private person, so I don’t like a lot of cross talk from one location to another, and I shouldn’t feel forced to make myself uncomfortable to simply prove I am not a hypocrite /endrant.

 

[jaboo]

Maybe this is why you get lynched lol 😉

Nawwwwwww no way Jose

 

[muttmanager]

Nothing I said today made any difference in your read of me?

Not really

 

[JustPaws]

Sometimes I feel sad when people don't get my references from high school.

 

[muttmanager]

There's still an hour left.

Yea and no one else is moving off me so I made my move

 

[PippyPony]

Sometimes I feel sad when people don't get my references from high school.

I gotchu boo

 

[Animal Midwife]

Yea and no one else is moving off me so I made my move

There's still three people who haven't voted.

 

[genny]

Not really

I don't even know what to say to that.

 

[muttmanager]

There's still three people who haven't voted.

And they might not vote at all or they will and it could still go either way

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

*****
D2 The People Want More Bread Official Tally
Nav () -
Mutts (4) - AM, Lawpy, dubz, Dina
Paws (2) - Nav, MsP
genny () -
dubz (2) - dolphin, jboo
Stagg (1) - genny
emmy (5) - Barks, Pippy, Sporty, Stagg, mutts
Doggo (1) - Paws

15/18 Voting
@emlady09 you are in the lead!

Lynch closes in ~1 hr
Missing: @Doggo Labs @cubsrule4e @emlady09

*****

 

[muttmanager]

I don't even know what to say to that.

If I live ill go reread, what I say doesnt matter at this point.

 

[Barkley13]

@Doggo Labs You brought up pippy not voting sooo are you gonna vote today?

 

[PippyPony]

If I live ill go reread, what I say doesnt matter at this point.

You're not even in the lead right now?

 

[Doggo Labs]

@Doggo Labs You brought up pippy not voting sooo are you gonna vote today?

Yeah I'm going to vote
Lynch Genny
This is based on my earlier reads but mostly feels
Mutts seems pretty neutral to village to me right now. Em is more on the sketch side right now, but not confident yet

 

[cubsrule4e]

After a reread I find myself somewhat relating to some of jboos thoughts, and dubz is standing out to me. Not sure if it was the dolphin interaction, her significant increase in activity this game, or something I cant really pin down yet.

I've already stated I'm in agreement with sporty and dont like the mutts lynch. However, I'm not seeing the em lynch either. Comments thrown around about her possibly fishing and this or that, but as a noob myself thats how Im viewing it. Also think if she was a wolf, shed be more careful in what/how shes saying things on thread at risk of doing something incriminating to herself or another wolf.

Lynch WZ because i dont like either leading candidate, and she is standing out to me right now.

 

[muttmanager]

You're not even in the lead right now?

Bc of a self prez vote

 

[genny]

@emlady09 are you voting today? You liked one of my posts about 20 minutes ago, I know you're paying attention.

 

[Stagg737]

And you've played with me enough to know that I pretty much always find you wolfy, especially when you're a wolf.

Sure, but so do lots of people. My question remains as to why I'm wolfier than other people other than my D1 interactions with AM about my vote. If you think I'm a wolf, who else is in my pack?

Pfffft. You're all going to comb through a bunch of other games all of a sudden instead of reading posts in this game because you're incapable of getting a read on a new player without an extensive history? Bull$hit.

No, I'm not, are you intentionally missing my point? I said it's BS that they expect us to try and accommodate them with a single wolf-hunting strategy then say no one else is allowed to do the same thing for them. Do you not see the problem with that? You also know how much I hate using metas to wolf-hunt, which is just adding to my salt with this subject.

Why did you point it out then?

Because you're a solid wolf-hunter and I want to see more coming from you other than trying to convince me how to vote. While I am reading you village, you're also giving me some feelz which are making me doubt that read, so I'd like to

I kind of agree with this. And yet I'd feel like a jerk for lynching Nav so soon. Pretty sure there are other wolves to find.

I also don't want to lynch true noobs too soon when there are other people I'm finding just as sketchy, hence why I'm voting for EM. I'm not giving them a free pass either though, and if EM flips wolf I'll likely vote Navi tomorrow.

There is a difference between you not knowing one person in the game’s meta and me not knowing anyone in the game’s meta. And I still don’t know anyone’s meta, everything has to be surface analysis for me because I don’t have the time to develop meta for 20 people, while also looking at past games to understand previous mechanic types at play. You are not the one at a significant disadvantage here, I am. This was brought up on another thread with me being a hypocrite. There is a difference between personal attacks and calling me a hypocrite and something that will actually affect this game. If you wouldn’t look my games up anyway, then it doesn’t have relevance to this game, it just boils down to commentary on me. Personally I tend to be a more private person, so I don’t like a lot of cross talk from one location to another, and I shouldn’t feel forced to make myself uncomfortable to simply prove I am not a hypocrite /endrant.

To be clear, I've enjoyed playing with you thus far and hope you stick around. However, even though you're a noob to this site you're clearly not a noob to WW. Yes, you get a little leeway for that, but I'm not putting the kid gloves on for you. Sorry.

Why are you relying so heavily on meta to wolf-hunt? If you're as experienced as you seem there are plenty of other things to be looking at but you seem to be choosing to rely heavily on meta. You can say you're at a disadvantage as a noob reading us (which is fair), but we also have no clue how to read you. Some of the most insightful reads come from people who have never played with others before. They catch things that other people just miss (certainly true for me). If anything, you have an advantage here because we have no idea how insightful you are and how well you can manipulate the info you know. Not trying to attack you, but if you're being hypocritical I'm going to call you out for it especially when it helps me form an idea of how shady I think you're being. Sorry, not sorry.