I have not applied to DO school before. I had a lot of things going on at the time and only applied to my STATE MD school. I was surprisingly waitlisted. Never tried to apply after because of other responsibilities. I took two gap years and did not want to wait around. You think those stats would be good enough?Your stats are good. Why do a SMP? Have you applied to DO schools before? I bet you get in somewhere.
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Definitely with a 505 mcat you should def get into DO school.I have not applied to DO school before. I had a lot of things going on at the time and only applied to my STATE MD school. I was surprisingly waitlisted. Never tried to apply after because of other responsibilities. I took two gap years and did not want to wait around. You think those stats would be good enough?
I will be applying broadly next year including many DO schools. This SMP should boost my app.Definitely with a 505 mcat you should def get into DO school.
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I wish you the best of luck. I’m an older non trad this whole process is so discouraging. I’ll be applying next year to this SMP and DO schools. Fingers crossed!I will be applying next year broadly next year including many DO schools. This SMP should of anything boost my app.
Hey guys, so I received a callback yesterday from PCOM's Admissions regarding my previous question regarding how their Year 1 matriculation works, since that's where my interests lies. I'm kicking myself for not taking notes during my conversation since they called me in the middle of work, but the gist of our conversation came out to:
You can opt to be a Year 1 or 2 student at your own discretion, however you would still need to apply to their DO school during upcoming cycle (2020-2021) and you will get a guaranteed interview based on your performance and meeting the conditional acceptance criteria during the the cycle, so I'm presuming fall and spring semesters. This is also applicable for applicants opting to complete the 2 years for their masters. You'll be a chance to get an interview either way. Also, we shouldn't worry too much about the incoming gpa requirements, as opposed to our overall performance during the program.
I don't know if this will help anyone interested in the program, but this was essentially what I was told. I'm still interested attending since I've always been interested in attending PCOM (that or if Drexel takes me for their DPMS program, doubt it but let's see [emoji28]) .
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You can opt to be a Year 1 or 2 student at your own discretion, however you would still need to apply to their DO school during upcoming cycle (2020-2021) and you will get a guaranteed interview based on your performance and meeting the conditional acceptance criteria during the the cycle, so I'm presuming fall and spring semesters. This is also applicable for applicants opting to complete the 2 years for their masters. You'll be a chance to get an interview either way. Also, we shouldn't worry too much about the incoming gpa requirements, as opposed to our overall performance during the program.
I don't know if this will help anyone interested in the program, but this was essentially what I was told. I'm still interested attending since I've always been interested in attending PCOM (that or if Drexel takes me for their DPMS program, doubt it but let's see [emoji28]) .
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Did it seem the linkage would be strong if you meet all of the requirements?Hey guys, so I received a callback yesterday from PCOM's Admissions regarding my previous question regarding how their Year 1 matriculation works, since that's where my interests lies. I'm kicking myself for not taking notes during my conversation since they called me in the middle of work, but the gist of our conversation came out to:
You can opt to be a Year 1 or 2 student at your own discretion, however you would still need to apply to their DO school during upcoming cycle (2020-2021) and you will get a guaranteed interview based on your performance and meeting the conditional acceptance criteria during the the cycle, so I'm presuming fall and spring semesters. This is also applicable for applicants opting to complete the 2 years for their masters. You'll be a chance to get an interview either way. Also, we shouldn't worry too much about the incoming gpa requirements, as opposed to our overall performance during the program.
I don't know if this will help anyone interested in the program, but this was essentially what I was told. I'm still interested attending since I've always been interested in attending PCOM (that or if Drexel takes me for their DPMS program, doubt it but let's see [emoji28]) .
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The person I spoke to made it seem like they really attempt to prepare and accommodate their students into transition into their DO program and outside of PCOM.Did it seem the linkage would be strong if you meet all of the requirements?
I'm sorry if that's not as reassuring, I wish I had the time to press a fit further. I'm still on the fence for now, considering there are programs like VCOM/ Touro/Drexel that make it clear their students will get a guaranteed acceptance following the successful completion of their program.
Either way, it'll be difficult and we just need to try our best, wherever we end up.
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So if you
So if you meet the conditional acceptance requirements your still not guranteed acceptance?The person I spoke to made it seem like they really attempt to prepare and accommodate their students into transition into their DO program and outside of PCOM.
I'm sorry if that's not as reassuring, I wish I had the time to press a fit further. I'm still on the fence for now, considering there are programs like VCOM/ Touro/Drexel that make it clear their students will get a guaranteed acceptance following the successful completion of their program.
Either way, it'll be difficult and we just need to try our best, wherever we end up.
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Drexel's DPMS is a good program, I believe there is a MCAT requirement tho. If you don't meet that then you are not in. I believe it's 508+. I am not sure tho. But the regular SMP for Drexel is IMS, which does not even have conditional acceptance.The person I spoke to made it seem like they really attempt to prepare and accommodate their students into transition into their DO program and outside of PCOM.
I'm sorry if that's not as reassuring, I wish I had the time to press a fit further. I'm still on the fence for now, considering there are programs like VCOM/ Touro/Drexel that make it clear their students will get a guaranteed acceptance following the successful completion of their program.
Either way, it'll be difficult and we just need to try our best, wherever we end up.
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I honestly think it's just the phrasing on their website. I think it's still technically a guaranteed admission/interview depending on your track, like most postbacc DO programs. I hope there's an information seminar sometime in the near future to better explain all this to us.So if you
So if you meet the conditional acceptance requirements your still not guranteed acceptance?
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Thanks for keeping us up to date. You are probably right. I imagine they use conditional just in case something happens.I honestly think it's just the phrasing on their website. I think it's still technically a guaranteed admission/interview depending on your track, like most postbacc DO programs. I hope there's an information seminar sometime in the near future to better explain all this to us.
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Yeah of course.Thanks for keeping us up to date. You are probably right. I imagine they use conditional just in case something happens.
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From my understanding, A student who is doing well in first two semesters (Fall and Winter) of the foundation year, met the MCAT requirement, AACOMAS GPA requirement will then interview with faculty. After doing well on the interview, those students will receive a conditional acceptance for fall 2021. They just have to finish the spring semester while maintaining 3.3 GPA.
Is there a PCOM biomedical student that could explain how the conditional acceptance works in a bit more detail on the thread? @premedbrah
Does anyone else know how long it takes for PCOM to acknowledge your payment?Does anyone know on average how long it takes for all the GradCAS stuff to process into the portal?
It acknowledged mine within 24 hours, but it hasn't processed anything else and I got the PCOM has received ur GradCAS application last MondayDoes anyone else know how long it takes for PCOM to acknowledge your payment?
Hmmmm I turned mine in on Dec 12th (Thurs), but none of the campuses have acknowledged it. I shall call them tomorrow.It acknowledged mine within 24 hours, but it hasn't processed anything else and I got the PCOM has received ur GradCAS application last Monday
I found some answers. Basically in the first year, about 20+ students get into PCOM. Then 30-58. What I have heard is they get as many as possible who meet the requirement. This is all based on what students have told me, so don't quote me. I am choosing to take their word, you can ask admissions to find more accurate numbers. KEY to success seems to be do above the minimum requirement, so you increase your chances of acceptance (DUH). Be prepared to do the second year, and hope for the best. Give it your best! You can do it! I hope to meet some of you in philly next fall! GOOD LUCK EVERYONE! Keep working hard and it will happen.
Don't know why they aren't using Post-Bacc Cas for this.
Are you saying if you meet the conditional accepatance requirements for the first you should get into pcom? If you don’t then you do a second year?I found some answers. Basically in the first year, about 20+ students get into PCOM. Then 30-58. What I have heard is they get as many as possible who meet the requirement. This is all based on what students have told me, so don't quote me. I am choosing to take their word, you can ask admissions to find more accurate numbers. KEY to success seems to be do above the minimum requirement, so you increase your chances of acceptance (DUH). Be prepared to do the second year, and hope for the best. Give it your best! You can do it! I hope to meet some of you in philly next fall! GOOD LUCK EVERYONE! Keep working hard and it will happen.
Awesome! So basically there’s only 20 or so first years that make it to the med school just because the rest of the students didn’t meet the conditional acceptance requirements. I’m just nervous to make the requirements and still not get in. But it sounds like that doesn’t really happen?Yes, precisely. Their goal is to admit as many as biomedical students.
My sAMCAS (3.23) gpa is higher than my sAACOMAS (3.17). I need to take 1-2 upper lvl science courses to bring it to a 3.2
I haven't heard of a student who met all the requirements and did not make it.Awesome! So basically there’s only 20 or so first years that make it to the med school just because the rest of the students didn’t meet the conditional acceptance requirements. I’m just nervous to make the requirements and still not get in. But it sounds like that doesn’t really happen?
Finishing the foundation year with good grades brings up your sGPA. They calculate it together.My sAMCAS (3.23) gpa is higher than my sAACOMAS (3.17). I need to take 1-2 upper lvl science courses to bring it to a 3.2
I haven't heard of a student who met all the requirements and did not make it.
Finishing the foundation year with good grades brings up your sGPA. They calculate it together.
Where do they say that?
AACOMAS combines all GPA into one. This is why your sGPA would go up.Where do they say that?
I thought the agreement is that your AACOMAS science undergrad GPA has to be a 3.2 before applying to the program? Where does it say they will combine your masters GPA with your undergrad sGPA?AACOMAS combines all GPA into one. This is why your sGPA would go up.
From PCOM's site.
Current first-year biomedical sciences students may qualify for conditional acceptance into the DO program subject to these criteria and conditions:
- Passed all biomedical sciences courses to date at the full-time completion rate with no withdraws or failures.
- Biomedical sciences cumulative GPA of 3.3 or higher.
- MCAT total score in the 50th percentile or higher and at least 40th percentile in each section (MCAT2015).
- “Overall Science” GPA of 3.2 or higher as calculated by AACOMAS.
- AACOMAS application on file in the Office of Admissions by December 1.
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I thought the agreement is that your AACOMAS science undergrad GPA has to be a 3.2 before applying to the program? Where does it say they will combine your masters GPA with your undergrad sGPA?
From PCOM's site.
Current first-year biomedical sciences students may qualify for conditional acceptance into the DO program subject to these criteria and conditions:
So IMO it's best to apply early to the DO program (AACOMAS app ready to go) and the biomed master at the same time with the 3.2 sGPA already being met. I don't see anywhere on their site that they will combine masters GPA with your undergrad sGPA. This is to meet the 1 year conditional acceptance.
- Passed all biomedical sciences courses to date at the full-time completion rate with no withdraws or failures.
- Biomedical sciences cumulative GPA of 3.3 or higher.
- MCAT total score in the 50th percentile or higher and at least 40th percentile in each section (MCAT2015).
- “Overall Science” GPA of 3.2 or higher as calculated by AACOMAS.
- AACOMAS application on file in the Office of Admissions by December 1.
I emailed Admissions. Their reply:
”Since we do need your fall term grades, and the application needs to be on file by December 1, then the overall science GPA of 3.2 would only include your fall grades for biomed (in addition to all other science coursework you've taken)”
So only your fall classes - BIOM 501 and 502 totaling 10 credits would count towards your AACOMAS GPA. Winter grades won’t count due to Dec.1 deadline.
Hope that clears things up.
That clears it up a little. However, the general wording of the conditional acceptance is rather vague and can be further interpreted.
"Current first-year biomedical sciences students MAY qualify for conditional acceptance into the DO program subject to these criteria and conditions." May instead of will.
I wouldn’t focus too much on the wording. I went to the GA open house and the director seemed very supportive in making sure Biomeds succeed and matriculate into the DO program as long as they fulfill all requirements to receive the conditional acceptance.
@NYCking should definitely take the classes to reach the 3.2 sGPA criteria before the program. You want to have as many requirements met before Fall 2020, including MCAT. I was just mentioning that it will combine the fall grades, which does help a little bit.I thought the agreement is that your AACOMAS science undergrad GPA has to be a 3.2 before applying to the program? Where does it say they will combine your masters GPA with your undergrad sGPA?
From PCOM's site.
Current first-year biomedical sciences students may qualify for conditional acceptance into the DO program subject to these criteria and conditions:
So IMO it's best to apply early to the DO program (AACOMAS app ready to go) and the biomed master at the same time with the 3.2 sGPA already being met. I don't see anywhere on their site that they will combine masters GPA with your undergrad sGPA. This is to meet the 1 year conditional acceptance.
- Passed all biomedical sciences courses to date at the full-time completion rate with no withdraws or failures.
- Biomedical sciences cumulative GPA of 3.3 or higher.
- MCAT total score in the 50th percentile or higher and at least 40th percentile in each section (MCAT2015).
- “Overall Science” GPA of 3.2 or higher as calculated by AACOMAS.
- AACOMAS application on file in the Office of Admissions by December 1.
The wording is a bit vague.That clears it up a little. However, the general wording of the conditional acceptance is rather vague and can be further interpreted.
"Current first-year biomedical sciences students MAY qualify for conditional acceptance into the DO program subject to these criteria and conditions." May instead of will. But who knows. Maybe they will follow through with their words.
I believe this refers to the fact that first-year classes get filled by December. Many do get put on the waitlist. Second-year interviews are held in September, which gives everyone much better chance. From the open house for PA, they expect the numbers of biomeds accepted to go higher.That clears it up a little. However, the general wording of the conditional acceptance is rather vague and can be further interpreted.
"Current first-year biomedical sciences students MAY qualify for conditional acceptance into the DO program subject to these criteria and conditions." May instead of will. But who knows. Maybe they will follow through with their words.
you are ABSOLUTELY right. It is a big commitment, you are taking on a tremendous amount of debt based on what the school provides. I have talked to a few students for PA campus, i can't speak for GA. The courses are doable, it is a lot of content. I heard good things about faculty being supportive and working towards getting you an acceptance. They give admission to 60/80ish biomeds. And 20 of those biomeds leave the program after 1 year because of getting accepted to a professional program elsewhere. 60 biomeds over two years.I have spoken to a couple of previous bms students. Both students had different stats and different experiences. This program has helped plenty of people get into medical school, but you have to interview/vet the program your interested in attending because they're going to be doing the same once you're in it.
I have spoken to a couple of previous bms students. Both students had different stats and different experiences. This program has helped plenty of people get into medical school, but you have to interview/vet the program your interested in attending because they're going to be doing the same once you're in it.
I understand that - there’s pros and cons to every program.
I’m just letting you know my impression of the program and my findings
of course lol, he could be a mad man with 510+ we will never know. I am aiming for 505+ for sure.it was above 505. He didn't want to reveal...
of course lol, he could be a mad man with 510+ we will never know. I am aiming for 505+ for sure.
Do your best man! You already have the GPA. I'm taking a few classes in the spring and MCAT studying as well.
So it’s def harder then to get into the med school during the first year? Do they not hold seats open?I believe this refers to the fact that first-year classes get filled by December. Many do get put on the waitlist. Second-year interviews are held in September, which gives everyone much better chance. From the open house for PA, they expect the numbers of biomeds accepted to go higher.
IMO I think they might be a little picky with the people who meet the conditional acceptance which they should (less money for them because you're in the DO program after one year. But from what I have heard, they reserve seats for 2nd year students who are in good standing.So it’s def harder then to get into the med school during the first year? Do they not hold seats open?
So it’s def harder then to get into the med school during the first year? Do they not hold seats open?
They do hold seats open considering 20+ biomeds get in from first year.
exactly, we just have to start working on our apps now. Don't wait until May. Get it in as early as possible, meet all the requirements you need. Also, many biomeds who get accepted have 2.7-3.0 sGPA, basically have to take second year.IMO I think they might be a little picky with the people who meet the conditional acceptance which they should (less money for them because you're in the DO program after one year. But from what I have heard, they reserve seats for 2nd year students who are in good standing.
Thank you.i guess I’m crazy fused byThey do hold seats open considering 20+ biomeds get in from first year.
Your earlier statement. It sounded like December application puts you at a disadvantage to get in after the first year. Maybe im just being neurotic though lol.
I honestly think that’s more of what it is. I don’t many people qualify after ya first year. Doesn’t everyone have to apply by dec anyways?exactly, we just have to start working on our apps now. Don't wait until May. Get it in as early as possible, meet all the requirements you need. Also, many biomeds who get accepted have 2.7-3.0 sGPA, basically have to take second year.
Thanks for the clarification. The only problem is I graduated last spring. Maybe go to a CC and take a couple of science courses to raise it? My last 31 credits have been As and one B+.
268 matriculated in 2019 to DO program for PCOM. 441 were accepted. There is a lot of movement on the waitlist. Also, 6000+ applicants apply, doing this program puts you ahead of everyone in the waitlist. Biomeds are given priority.
This is from
Biomedical Sciences (MS) Program Data | PCOM ?
Yeah, take a class or two to reach the 3.2. That's what I'm doing.Thanks for the clarification. The only problem is I graduated last spring. Maybe go to a CC and take a couple of science courses to raise it? My last 31 credits have been As and one B+.
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Yeah, take a class or two to reach the 3.2. That's what I'm doing.
Don't know how frowned upon that is going to be. I already graduated with a good amount of upper lvl sciences. in order to raise it to a 3.4 I would need 30+ As. They would need to fit AACOMAS BCP reqs. I wish they included math like AMCAS