Perio Residency 2018 entry

Discussion in 'Dental Residents and Practicing Dentists' started by eshtadental, Dec 24, 2016.

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  1. eshtadental

    eshtadental New Member 10+ Year Member

    May 4, 2004
    This thread is for application cycle of summer of 2017, for programs starting 2018.

    I am getting ready to apply and any advice is appreciated.

    I'll share the info I gathered so far:
    (info based on estimates and generalizations for summarization)
    Applicants apply for 5-10 programs out of a total of about 50 programs in the US.
    All perio programs are 3 years long.
    Tuition ranges from $0-$80,000 a year with a mean of about$20,000/year.
    Some programs offer stipends ($5000-40k/yr), however, these programs are the most competitive.
    Most applicants are students or new graduates, with research experience and have attended 1 week Perio externships.

    Please add your advice to get accepted.

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  3. AmishForeskin


    Sep 4, 2015
    Perio is a dying specialty
  4. FanOfCostco

    FanOfCostco 5+ Year Member

    Jan 30, 2012
    how so?
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  5. DDS360


    Mar 4, 2016
    Why not 4 year OMFS with broader scope?
  6. eshtadental

    eshtadental New Member 10+ Year Member

    May 4, 2004
    Bec its a matter of taste I guess. In perio, you do a few procedures really well. I think its the future.
  7. JPIL

    JPIL 2+ Year Member

    Jun 5, 2013
    Hi, which programs are you looking for? International applicant or U.S. graduate?
  8. Steins;Gate


    Aug 25, 2015
    What do you mean by you think "it's the future"?
  9. eshtadental

    eshtadental New Member 10+ Year Member

    May 4, 2004
    Perio is the future means: periodontists are the experts in implant placement while promoting final esthetics. Add the ageing population thus a higher patient pool needing to save their old teeth. And when they clone teeth, guess who will be placing the clones...
  10. eshtadental

    eshtadental New Member 10+ Year Member

    May 4, 2004
    I'm trying to apply for the less expensive programs. International grad but practicing in the US.
    Are you applying too? if so, how many and whats your priority?
  11. Reality?


    Jul 23, 2016
    ?? Everyone and their mother is placing implants nowadays. Some Dental school graduates place 40 before graduating, and then there's dozens of implants CE both nationally and internationally. And also, surgeons place implants as well, arguably better trained too. Finally, prosthodontists are probably better trained in the implant restoration, not periodontists.
  12. eshtadental

    eshtadental New Member 10+ Year Member

    May 4, 2004
    There is no point arguing about a prediction though. It is just my opinion. maybe right or wrong.
  13. Tensa

    Tensa 2+ Year Member

    Apr 7, 2013

    If there are any current perio residents out there (or any students that have recently gained admission to a periodontal residency), could you please shed some light on how the application process is? I've looked at other forums asking about GPA, class rank etc. but it always ends up getting off topic.

    I will be applying to periodontal residencies this upcoming cycle as well and any guidance is appreciated.
    Tips on:
    - GPA
    - Research
    - ECs
    - Reference Letters
    - Timeline (when applications are due generally, is it rolling admission etc)
  14. eshtadental

    eshtadental New Member 10+ Year Member

    May 4, 2004
    Hey there,

    Did anyone take the GRE test? Whats scores did u get? What scores are they looking for?

  15. dent777

    dent777 2+ Year Member

    Apr 9, 2013
    I would not take some of those comments seriously, for all I know you may be the one applying to perio residency. I think this is a good thread & I would appreciate more informative comments such as those of OP.
  16. Tensa

    Tensa 2+ Year Member

    Apr 7, 2013
    I didn't take the GRE... I WAS considering taking the ADAT however. I still have to call residency program directors to see if they accept/require the ADAT for this upcoming application cycle.
  17. japanmarine14

    japanmarine14 2+ Year Member

    Jun 18, 2013
    you don't the need GRE , plus the ADAT is optional for program directors to use. a lot of them are sceptical about it
  18. JPIL

    JPIL 2+ Year Member

    Jun 5, 2013
    Hi, I am starting my residency at OSU in the summer. I would say that externships are quite important so as to see the aspects of a program prior to application/interview. Overall, grades and research (especially in combined or research focused) programs matter. Most value work experience, some may not. The GRE, if very good (above 75%) then of course straightens your position, but interview matters most! They always look for good candidates that can fit in well with the rest of the residents as personalities!
    I am glad to answer more questions if necessary :)
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  19. The Anhedonia

    The Anhedonia pro Battlefield 4 player, OMFS hobbyist 7+ Year Member

    Feb 18, 2009
    Aging populations = more medical comorbidities => medically-trained surgeons should manage ;)
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  20. OralNinja

    OralNinja 2+ Year Member

    Aug 16, 2013
    Hi there, and good luck on the upcoming application cycle! I'll be starting my residency this summer.

    The OP mentioned something about applying to 5-10 programs. Perio programs seem to be getting more competitive to get into so I might advise considering applying to more.

    GPA, research, EC's, and reference letters are all important. I didn't have much research under my belt and I'm sure it hurt me, but I tried to excel in other categories. My GPA was all right and I believe my saving grace was that I had some incredible reference letters from periodontists who are well-known in the perio community, and I worked with them enough so that they could write a truly personal letter.

    Timeline is an interesting one because things have changed a bit when it comes to perio acceptance. A number of schools used to participate in an agreement to only send out acceptances on a certain date. That, however, has gotten thrown out the window so what we'll probably see in upcoming years is that interviews and acceptances get pushed earlier and earlier. As far as when applications are due, the better question would be when applications open. Get them in as soon as you can; you don't want to be at the bottom of the pile. ADEA pass, which many schools use for their application submissions, opens sometime in Spring (this year was May 18th I believe). Don't only rely on ADEA pass though as many great programs don't use it and require a direct submission, which you can get in as early as they'll let you (I'd contact the school to see what they think).

    It's been said earlier, but externships are golden. They show a lot of interest and are a great foot in the door. Each program I externed at gave me an interview.

    Some schools do require the GRE but under certain conditions. Most don't. CO, for example, required it from me because my school doesn't have an official ranking system. NB "strongly encouraged it," and seeing as how they were one of my favorite programs I went ahead and took it. I can't remember my exact scores but I got in the 94th percentile on English, 90th percentile on Math, and scored a 5 on the written. I felt like adding those numbers to my name gave programs another positive thing to judge me by so I think it was worth it for me, but your mileage may vary. It really pays to find out what your programs of interest want and I'm sure most other applicants would tell you not to bother with it.
  21. eshtadental

    eshtadental New Member 10+ Year Member

    May 4, 2004

    Thanks a lot for the reply and details given.
    Any more people want to share their GRE scores plz.
    I need to know if I should improve my score. Math: 157, Verbal: 152.

  22. TXftw


    Jun 25, 2015
    What kind of GPA or class rank would make one competitive for Perio?
  23. Eli Manning

    Eli Manning 2+ Year Member

    Mar 14, 2015
    New York
    Top half of the class probably. Perio is not very competitive. If you're from the US and appear to be a normal human you'll be a shoe in.
  24. BellaNella

    BellaNella 2+ Year Member

    Jul 13, 2012
    I would say more like top 1/3 is competitive. There are perio programs that are more competitive than others. I would by no means say that being in the top half and appearing normal is considered a shoo in.
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