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I was wondering if the statistics is right about average IQ of physicians being around 130
Although it doesn't matter at all...it is most likely lower than that. 130 is pretty high as far as iq goes. Many aren't necessarily super smart, but have a work ethic that is unparalleled compared to the more intelligent peers. I'd say 115 to 120 would be closer to an average...although 5 points is a huge range there.
Yea, I think most doctors are probably a bit above average, but I agree that a lot of becoming a doctor has to do with hard work. I think that IQ tests are BS anyway because there are so many factors that affect the results. I had my IQ tested when I was in elementary school. It was 145. But, I don't think I should run off and join MENSA or anything like that. It is just a stupid number. You could have an IQ of 180 and no work ethic and never make it in med school.
yeah, i known a guy who was tested at the age of 15 and had an IQ of 165...he was barely getting C's in his classes. I don't think that inteligence has one definition. I belive there are different types of inteligence and it cannot be really accurately measured imo.
Couse how you explain a music genius who is trugling in math class etc.
I would say perhaps that the music genius may be a savant, but that is a whole other story. I totally agree that it is hard to define intelligence. IMO, the IQ test itself has very little meaning.
I'm going to be a physician and I can say for myself that I'm nowhere near 130=)
Cheers
Yea, I think most doctors are probably a bit above average, but I agree that a lot of becoming a doctor has to do with hard work. I think that IQ tests are BS anyway because there are so many factors that affect the results. I had my IQ tested when I was in elementary school. It was 145. But, I don't think I should run off and join MENSA or anything like that. It is just a stupid number. You could have an IQ of 180 and no work ethic and never make it in med school.
Hilarious, I knew there'd be someone like this in here - the "I-have-a-high-IQ-HERE-IS-THE-NUMBER-by-the-way, but-I'm-super-humble-of-course-and-gosh-I-think-they're-BS-anyway" type.
Oh no you didn't just insult DoctorMom... that's like insulting a God here in pre-osteo... you belligerent a-hole... Why don't you just insult AT Still!?
PS I am mid-130's so doctormom is smarter than me
MENSA!? Do they get free matrix logic problems in the mail... I don't think I've ever finished one of those thing unless they were geared toward younger kids haha.
I have never had my IQ tested. What's the point??
140 Top Civil Servants; Professors and Research Scientists.
130 Physicians and Surgeons; Lawyers; Engineers (Civil and Mechanical)
120 School Teachers; Pharmacists; Accountants; Nurses; Stenographers; Managers.
110 Foremen; Clerks; Telephone Operators; Salesmen; Policemen; Electricians.
100+ Machine Operators; Shopkeepers; Butchers; Welders; Sheet Metal Workers.
100- Warehousemen; Carpenters; Cooks and Bakers; Small Farmers; Truck and Van Drivers.
90 Laborers; Gardeners; Upholsterers; Farmhands; Miners; Factory Packers and Sorters.
References:
Engle, T. L., & Snellgrove, L., Psychology: Its Principles and Applications (6th ed.), (New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc., 1974).
Swiegers, D. J., & Louw, D. A., Intelligensie, in D. A. Louw (ed.), Inleiding tot die Psigologie (2nd ed.), (Johannesburg: McGraw Hill, 1982).
Test Score Interpretation, Hampton City Schools, Psychological Services.
Wilson, G., & Grylls, D., Know Your Childs IQ (London: Futura Publications, 1977).
Note the age of the references, so these figures may be different today, this is probably why you thought doctors have 130IQ, which is in the 98th percentile.
My IQ test came back negative
I have never had my IQ tested. What's the point??
In elementary school I was doing really well in my classes so my teacher recommended that the district test my IQ to see if I was "gifted." If you are "gifted" the district has an obligation under law to give you additional supplemental instruction, referred to in my district as "gifted seminar"...etc, etc etc
I wouldn't have had it tested otherwise. I think I've killed a good bit of braincells since elementary school, so I would have to guess that my IQ is about 93 now
I only threw out the personal stuff because it seemed like this tread had degenerated into an "IQ means nothing but I have a high IQ so that means I, and only I, have the credibility to say that IQ means nothing," thread. Kind of hypocritical, eh? Oh yeah, and then tell anyone who disagrees with you that they have low intelligence. Might be a good idea for the 'osteo-god' to go back to threads where their true colors won't shine through.
140 Top Civil Servants; Professors and Research Scientists.
130 Physicians and Surgeons; Lawyers; Engineers (Civil and Mechanical)
120 School Teachers; Pharmacists; Accountants; Nurses; Stenographers; Managers.
110 Foremen; Clerks; Telephone Operators; Salesmen; Policemen; Electricians.
100+ Machine Operators; Shopkeepers; Butchers; Welders; Sheet Metal Workers.
100- Warehousemen; Carpenters; Cooks and Bakers; Small Farmers; Truck and Van Drivers.
90 Laborers; Gardeners; Upholsterers; Farmhands; Miners; Factory Packers and Sorters.
References:
Engle, T. L., & Snellgrove, L., Psychology: Its Principles and Applications (6th ed.), (New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc., 1974).
Swiegers, D. J., & Louw, D. A., Intelligensie, in D. A. Louw (ed.), Inleiding tot die Psigologie (2nd ed.), (Johannesburg: McGraw Hill, 1982).
Test Score Interpretation, Hampton City Schools, Psychological Services.
Wilson, G., & Grylls, D., Know Your Childs IQ (London: Futura Publications, 1977).
Note the age of the references, so these figures may be different today, this is probably why you thought doctors have 130IQ, which is in the 98th percentile.
My IQ test came back negative
It was done in either kindergarten or first grade, so I don't put much faith in that number. Plus, there are a number of things that affect the score. It is a stupid number and that was my point. My IQ did not get me into med school; my hard work did. I am humble, but I am also proud of my accomplishments. That's right...I said my acccomplishments; NOT my the make-believe IQ number I was labeled with at age 5. Plus, as stated earlier, intelligence is not easy to define. They are many different ways a person can be intelligent. That was my point. Obviously, your IQ wasn't high enough to understand that. I guess the meaning of my post went WAY over your head.
But, you are forgiven.
The only reason I really come on to these forums is to gain information about the application process and I find that many times most people are very helpful, but I see absolutely no anger or other hateful issues with Northerner's post, he kind of just pointed out the obvious. The only hateful, nasty attacks I saw were directed at him, so I tried to point out the obvious. I often try to follow your posts because I am a 28 year old mother of 2 who is applying osteopathic and wants to do rural family medicine. It caught me totally by surprise when I saw the mean hatefulness of your post toward Northerner and I was kind of disappointed. I try to love everyone and I have absolutely no idea why you would want to say I have no peace and that I am angry. You don't know me. Saying something nice after a mean attack does not make it a nice post! Have a great day, I wish you well. Honestly.
The only reason I really come on to these forums is to gain information about the application process and I find that many times most people are very helpful, but I see absolutely no anger or other hateful issues with Northerner's post, he kind of just pointed out the obvious. The only hateful, nasty attacks I saw were directed at him, so I tried to point out the obvious. I often try to follow your posts because I am a 28 year old mother of 2 who is applying osteopathic and wants to do rural family medicine. It caught me totally by surprise when I saw the mean hatefulness of your post toward Northerner and I was kind of disappointed. I try to love everyone and I have absolutely no idea why you would want to say I have no peace and that I am angry. You don't know me. Saying something nice after a mean attack does not make it a nice post! Have a great day, I wish you well. Honestly.
hilarious, finally, its commin all out ...
i dont see anything wrong with drmom's post ... if anything, northerner was a an idiot for being ms sarcasm over her post.
I tested 135 on an IQ test last year. I am a psych major and our personality prof. was really into IQ tests so we all took one. But my mcat is only 21 and my overall gpas are about 3.2. Do you think I can send a copy of my IQ to the adcoms?? IQ practicality = none, unless you have a severely low IQ and they need to place you in the proper group home!
Hilarious, I knew there'd be someone like this in here - the "I-have-a-high-IQ-HERE-IS-THE-NUMBER-by-the-way, but-I'm-super-humble-of-course-and-gosh-I-think-they're-BS-anyway" type.
BTW, I don't know if you took offense to my previous post or not, but it was a joke. Just in case you thought I was mean or serious, I apologize. Sorry if I offended you in any way.
LOL! I guess you could send it to them and try. My GPA is also only a 3.2 and my MCAT is only a 23Q. The only reason I even have that is because of my ability to work hard. Having four kids and being able to get into medical school has nothing to do with your IQ.
Get a life? I have posted about 50 times in 10 mos. That's just over 1 time per week. I spend my time taking care of my children. You have absolutely no idea how much time I have invested in my children, and I only have two. My son is eight now and doing wonderful but there was a time when that wasn't so and I spent every last minute with him. Commenting on someone's mothering is ridiculous and I honestly can't believe that DrMom supported you in doing so.
Get a life? I have posted about 50 times in 10 mos. That's just over 1 time per week. I spend my time taking care of my children. You have absolutely no idea how much time I have invested in my children, and I only have two. My son is eight now and doing wonderful but there was a time when that wasn't so and I spent every last minute with him. Commenting on someone's mothering is ridiculous and I honestly con't believe that DrMom supported you in doing so.
WHAT?!?! Where did I do that?!?!? WOW!!!!! What in the world did I do to offend you?!?!
WHAT?!?! Where did I do that?!?!? WOW!!!!! What in the world did I do to offend you?!?!
Being a mom entails standing up for the little guy and saying something when you think someone is being unfairly attacked. That is maturity.
I'm going to jump in and say that your initial post was a little on the obnoxious side, and, yes, it did come off as bragging. Your following posts to t-funk haven't exacted redeemed you yet. Calling someone angry and humorless followed by a smiley isn't exactly being civil.
Sorry, I didn't realize that smileys were offensive. I am not the only one who posted my actual IQ on here. How come I am the one getting berrated by everyone for doing so?
I don't know why everyone is so cranky today!
Maybe you were the only one who felt the need to brag. See, following a mean statement by a smiley doesn't make it nice.
Sorry, I didn't realize that smileys were offensive. I am not the only one who posted my actual IQ on here. How come I am the one getting berrated by everyone for doing so?
I don't know why everyone is so cranky today!
doctormom it's not woth it...go for a walk...apparently certain ppl on here treat pre-osteo forum as a venting device for their anger.
You don't want to be provoked into saying one word too much and getting a worning. Just let them vent to the wall.
Maybe you were the only one who felt the need to brag. See, following a mean statement by a smiley doesn't make it nice.
doctormom it's not woth it...go for a walk...apparently certain ppl on here treat pre-osteo forum as a venting device for their anger.
You don't want to be provoked into saying one word too much and getting a worning. Just let them vent to the wall.