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cs5910 said:
I've been turned down by 10 equine vets for shadowing because they are afraid I'll ask to be added to payroll in the future 🙁 I live in an area where there are a very limited number of large animal vets... I need LA hours and don't know what to do 🙁
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Could you go back to them and agree to sign a contract of sorts, saying you won't ask for pay in the future?
 
I've always been a night owl anyway, but seems like I can never get to sleep these days when I want to, despite being tired. I read until around 12:30 and felt drowsy, tried to fall asleep and ended up just lying in bed for 90 minutes. Gave up and here I am on SDN. It's been I don't know how many weeks since I've managed to get to sleep before 2-4am; I was hoping being on break and at home would help. Brain, why won't you just shut up and turn off? :annoyed:
 
I don't care how cute your kid is or how proud you are of him, I don't need or want to see pictures in my newsfeed of him using his potty for the first time. It's just weird.
 
cs5910 said:
I've been turned down by 10 equine vets for shadowing because they are afraid I'll ask to be added to payroll in the future 🙁 I live in an area where there are a very limited number of large animal vets... I need LA hours and don't know what to do 🙁
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Holy crap. I never had a vet jump to the conclusion that shadowing = wanting to eventually get paid. Urgh, that sucks. I agree with asking about a contract. Or telling them that you only wanted to do it for a short amount of time?
 
wolfspeaker said:
Could you go back to them and agree to sign a contract of sorts, saying you won't ask for pay in the future?
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I'm pretty sure that is illegal, though i guess it might be ok if it also stipulates that you will also only watch and never do any tasks a paid person would do. It's against labor laws for for-profits to utilize "volunteers" and not pay them for anything that an employer would usually have a paid employee do. A lot of vet practices will kind of ignore that with their volunteers/shadows, but to have a paper trail of that would be incredibly dangerous.
 
Frozenshades said:
I've always been a night owl anyway, but seems like I can never get to sleep these days when I want to, despite being tired. I read until around 12:30 and felt drowsy, tried to fall asleep and ended up just lying in bed for 90 minutes. Gave up and here I am on SDN. It's been I don't know how many weeks since I've managed to get to sleep before 2-4am; I was hoping being on break and at home would help. Brain, why won't you just shut up and turn off? :annoyed:
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I have a case of Still on Waking Up For 8am Classes Schedule. Despite the fact that I am perfectly happy to stay up late since I don't have to get up early in the morning now...and then I get up early in the morning anyway. :smack:
 
When I volunteered at one clinic, I had to sign a confidentiality contract and one about liability. Maybe labour laws differ here.

Also, how the OP originally asked to shadow plays a role in how she could go about presenting her case to the vet. If all of her rejections took place face to face, it would be difficult for her to go back to that person and "plead her case". If a phone message was left or an email sent and the OP didn't follow up, she could always get back in touch with the vet and politely explain why she wants to shadow and why she is not expecting to get paid.

This isn't really related, but I asked to volunteer one summer at a clinic I had previously volunteered at. They were full and could not take me on. I got in contact with them again later because I needed some surgical observation for a trip I was going. I explained that I needed X number of hours for my trip and they agreed to help me out with those hours. I wasn't volunteering on a weekly basis like I had originally wanted, but at least I was shadowing and getting the experience that I needed.

If you outlined why you wanted the experience and what you hoped to get out of it an all 10 turned you down, that is really crappy luck and I feel badly for you. But, if the situation is appropriate, you can always make a grab at shadowing even for a few hours. A few hours is better than no hours.

I have been down that road of going to clinic after clinic and being turned down for various reasons. It is stressful and frustrating, especially when the excuse is that the clinic assumes you want to be paid. I wish you luck!
 
vetgirl4eva said:
I don't care how cute your kid is or how proud you are of him, I don't need or want to see pictures in my newsfeed of him using his potty for the first time. It's just weird.
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👍👍👍 People get so weird when they start breeding.
 
heylodeb said:
👍👍👍 People get so weird when they start breeding.
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One of my friends posted a picture of her (fully topless, etc) breastfeeding for the first time, as well as nice graphic pictures of the birth.

I have hidden all her feed on my FB. I do not need to see my friend naked. No thank you. Birth and breastfeeding may be all magical and that junk, but it does not need to be shared on FB.

Uck.

The stress over this whole waiting thing is making me physically sick. 🙁 Current solution is to pretend I never applied to graduate school and that I don't have to worry about it at all. Hard, when things keep reminding me...but managing. Focusing on everything I need to do to prep for the new semester instead...
 
I don't mind people posting statuses about their kids, but pics of them doing their business just crossed the line.
 
I wrote this and posted it on my facebook on January 14th, 2010.........History just repeats itself over and over again..... (and apparently I don't write many notes - because this didn't take very long to find!)

"In an attempt to try viewing my facebook without feeling the need to rate it PG-13, I have a few requests of you.

Your baby is beautiful. However, seeing your child being birthed along with other pictures from your labor are not particularly enjoyable. For anyone. Well, maybe your mother, and in that situation a simple private e-mail would suffice.

I'm sorry that nursing is hard. I have not had this experience. That being said: It is completely unneccessary to share with me how much your nipples have changed, when and why you leak milk, and, please, I do not want to see any photos of your child attached to you during this process. I don't think anyone does. Except maybe your mother. See previous paragraph.

Lastly, it is extrememly awkward for me to look at naked pregnant/new "mother" pictures of yourself. For a matter of fact, it's actually quite odd. I know that 30 nurses and 7 doctors saw you naked while you gave birth, but that is their job. It's not my job. It's not even your mother's job. Please put your clothes back on.

All this being said: I absolutely LOVE every picture you put up of your new family member. I look at all of them, even if I don't comment. I read all of your statuses, and enjoy hearing that you felt them move for the first time, that it's a boy or a girl, they grew, said their first word, got their Ph.D. Please continue to keep us all informed - this new period in your life is fantastic!

Yours faithfully,
Deb

(note: this is supposed to be HUMOROUS....no need to get offended...I just currently have an over abundance of pregnant women on my friends list and felt the need (as quite possibly the last remaining married woman who is not growing a human) to express myself. 🙂"
 
nyanko said:
That's exactly what the blog I linked is about!

"oversharing"

see also what nohika just posted about people's birthing pics and stuff
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Yeah, I clicked on the bathroom behavior category and it was all statuses. I would never post a naked pic of myself on facebook. Even bathing suit pics rarely make the cut. I can't believe some of the stuff people post.
 
Heylo I love it! It totally makes sense, without being overly rude. And I'm not really sure who wants to show everyone on their facebook their naked bodies. Personally, I find that embarrassing. Like when I have kids, I hope pictures of me in those situations never show up online.
 
heylodeb said:
I wrote this and posted it on my facebook on January 14th, 2010.........History just repeats itself over and over again..... (and apparently I don't write many notes - because this didn't take very long to find!)

"In an attempt to try viewing my facebook without feeling the need to rate it PG-13, I have a few requests of you.

Your baby is beautiful. However, seeing your child being birthed along with other pictures from your labor are not particularly enjoyable. For anyone. Well, maybe your mother, and in that situation a simple private e-mail would suffice.

I'm sorry that nursing is hard. I have not had this experience. That being said: It is completely unneccessary to share with me how much your nipples have changed, when and why you leak milk, and, please, I do not want to see any photos of your child attached to you during this process. I don't think anyone does. Except maybe your mother. See previous paragraph.

Lastly, it is extrememly awkward for me to look at naked pregnant/new "mother" pictures of yourself. For a matter of fact, it's actually quite odd. I know that 30 nurses and 7 doctors saw you naked while you gave birth, but that is their job. It's not my job. It's not even your mother's job. Please put your clothes back on.

All this being said: I absolutely LOVE every picture you put up of your new family member. I look at all of them, even if I don't comment. I read all of your statuses, and enjoy hearing that you felt them move for the first time, that it's a boy or a girl, they grew, said their first word, got their Ph.D. Please continue to keep us all informed - this new period in your life is fantastic!

Yours faithfully,
Deb

(note: this is supposed to be HUMOROUS....no need to get offended...I just currently have an over abundance of pregnant women on my friends list and felt the need (as quite possibly the last remaining married woman who is not growing a human) to express myself. 🙂"
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The fact that you needed to even post this message just has me shaking my head. So happy I have not had to encounter this problem
 
A mother friend of mine posted this link on her Facebook:
http://www.the-mule.com/2012/12/childism-as-utterly-unacceptable-as.html?m=1

It basically states how wrong it is take humiliating pictures of your children and share them online for a laugh.

My opinion is that many parents cross this line a little bit: fresh after birth pics, ultrasound pictures, bath pictures, potty pictures (IE pictures that you would normally find tucked away in a family album) is embarrassing the child when shared online.

Has anyone else noticed that ultrasound pictures is inversely proportional to maternal age? 19 year old mother - 127. 21 year old mother - 99. 23 year old mother - In the 20s. 30 year old mother - 1.

My 28 year old long distance friend who posted the article... well, I didn't know she was pregnant until she posted she was going to the hospital.
 
Trematode said:
A mother friend of mine posted this link on her Facebook:
http://www.the-mule.com/2012/12/childism-as-utterly-unacceptable-as.html?m=1

It basically states how wrong it is take humiliating pictures of your children and share them online for a laugh.

My opinion is that many parents cross this line a little bit: fresh after birth pics, ultrasound pictures, bath pictures, potty pictures (IE pictures that you would normally find tucked away in a family album) is embarrassing the child when shared online.

Has anyone else noticed that ultrasound pictures is inversely proportional to maternal age? 19 year old mother - 127. 21 year old mother - 99. 23 year old mother - In the 20s. 30 year old mother - 1.

My 28 year old long distance friend who posted the article... well, I didn't know she was pregnant until she posted she was going to the hospital.
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I don't think fresh after birth pics or ultrasound pics are embarrassing in the slightest. A lot of people use pics of the baby shortly after it's born to announce that they baby has been born. I love seeing those pics because a lot of times, I won't be at the hospital to see the baby in person. I can see bath pics and potty pics being embarrassing to the child when they get older, though.
 
nyanko said:
oh devyn what a nightmare. that feeling of uncertainty after a seizure is the worst, nevermind a cluster event like that.
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twelvetigers said:
Seizures in a pet are so scary, even if you get used to the event... I can definitely say that with certainty. So unpleasant.
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StartingoverVet said:
Definitely know how you feel... 😍
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Thanks guys..... yeah seizures really are the worst as you just never know when they will occur or when they will end......

I just feel horrible as he had been pretty well regulated and then I stressed him out enough to cause this.... 🙁


DVMDream said:
Still having issues with losing vision in my right eye.. Used to only happen every once in a while now it is every night, multiple times per night and it went from only lasting for a few seconds to now lasting up to a full minute or longer... I can also tell that my vision has drastically changed in that eye, it is super blurry and I am going to need a new contact prescription.... 🙁
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You need to go see someone while you are home.... see an eye doctor.... go to urgent care - I don't really care where you go..... but you don't want to go blind in your eye and you need to be on meds ASAP.... not sure you can wait until the end of January for your referral appointment... I am worried.


vetgirl4eva said:
I don't care how cute your kid is or how proud you are of him, I don't need or want to see pictures in my newsfeed of him using his potty for the first time. It's just weird.
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:barf:
 
I definitely don't want to see poop pictures or naked pictures but what is wrong with ultrasound pictures?!
 
bunnity said:
I definitely don't want to see poop pictures or naked pictures but what is wrong with ultrasound pictures?!
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I have no issues with ultrasound photos or baby photos (where the baby is clothed - at least diapered).....

I just don't need to see babies going potty or naked pregnant women/bellies..... not my thing.

I am lucky though so far - all of my friends who have babies/children post appropriate photos and I find their kids adorable......
 
nyanko said:
As long as she is clothed and devoid of goo and all parts of your body associated with her are either clothed or not in the picture, I think it's fine. 😉
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👍 We'd love to see her. 🙂

I don't mind ultrasound pictures. They freak me out but the don't bug me.
 
I'm waiting for all this to start happening to me. So many of my friends are now engaged/getting married so it's coming soon. As for me, I don't think I could post something like that. Sure, I would do statuses about certain firsts, but never a picture about going to the bathroom or anything like that. Blech. I mean, I don't necessarily find it gross (odd, definitely), but I know so many other people do, so the thought just wouldn't even cross my mind.

And Liss, I agree. We'd love to see her.
 
My mother thinks that they are a little too personal to post. The older generation still judges what you post on Facebook.

A tasteful photo to announce a birth or share your joy... cool. Just most parents I personally know over-do it: 80 first day at the hospital photos (when a few are sufficient), 15 photos of your kid in a high chair taken within a 2 minute time frame (when one is sufficient) with potential embarrassing photos on top of that for all 600 of your friends see... I judge. That may change as my friends get older and start having children of their own.

If you are not close enough to me to be there for the birth of my child, I do not want you to see pictures of me straining and sweating, and thus, you will not see posting them on Facebook.

That is just my POV. Everybody's is going to differ. 😀

I would rather see potty photos than wound photos though. I still cannot shake the photo of the eyeball with the burst blood vessels that showed up on my Instagram feed.
 
The 3D ultrasound pictures of the baby's face creep me the f out. Plus they aren't necessary - we'll see what they look like when they come out. Just do the normal U/S to see that everything is okay and if it's a boy or a girl and leave it at that.

And it's not like I'm actually gonna get upset at anyone for posting it - it was just like 5 in a week one time and I was getting a bit tired of seeing the alien babies all over my feed. :d
 
I would love to see your girl, Liss.
I will not be able to make the "She looks just like you! AWWW!!!!!" because I donno what you look like.
 
I know people creeped out by 3D ultrasound too. It is really expensive too. $300 here.
 
twelvetigers said:
The 3D ultrasound pictures of the baby's face creep me the f out. Plus they aren't necessary - we'll see what they look like when they come out. Just do the normal U/S to see that everything is okay and if it's a boy or a girl and leave it at that.

And it's not like I'm actually gonna get upset at anyone for posting it - it was just like 5 in a week one time and I was getting a bit tired of seeing the alien babies all over my feed. :d
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We are thinking of getting one done. I don't necessarily want to see what the baby looks like, I just want to see how much she has changed over the course of the pregnancy and my doctor won't do any more ultrasounds unless I develop complications because they aren't covered by insurance. If you look at the ultrasound pics I have from week 7, 9, and 19, it's crazy. She went from being this glob, to looking like a gummy bear, to actually looking like a baby.
 
I think a good 60% of my newsfeeds are pics or comments about someone's baby/toddler, and I gotta say i love them. I much prefer them to the annoying political and "omg oh boo poor me I worked 50 hrs a week" and sign-this-petition posts that used to litter my feeds.

I do agree about the tmi pics/posts though. Had someone posting daily for months about her vag tear... Seriously, wtf!?
 
devyn said:
You need to go see someone while you are home.... see an eye doctor.... go to urgent care - I don't really care where you go..... but you don't want to go blind in your eye and you need to be on meds ASAP.... not sure you can wait until the end of January for your referral appointment... I am worried.
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I know you are worried, I will get it checked out, will try before I head back to Edinburgh but not sure if I will have time before then, will get it checked out in edinburgh if I don't.
 
DVMDream said:
I know you are worried, I will get it checked out, will try before I head back to Edinburgh but not sure if I will have time before then, will get it checked out in edinburgh if I don't.
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Oh yeah, don't worry about it. Eye sight isn't important for doctors or anything. That's why we have two eyes right? One to spare.

Shouldn't this be something you MAKE the time for?
 
Nothing like debating whether or not to contact people in case I need somewhere to stay in case Mom carries out with her threat of kicking me out. 👍 Yay holiday break.

I cannot wait for a graduate school acceptance so I can find out where I'm going and gtfo of here.
 
cowgirla said:
Oh yeah, don't worry about it. Eye sight isn't important for doctors or anything. That's why we have two eyes right? One to spare.

Shouldn't this be something you MAKE the time for?
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You are way too "I'll get to it soon" about whatever it is that's making you ill. Passing out, losing vision, heart problems, trouble breathing, aching joints... it's time to get it figured out once and for all.
 
twelvetigers said:
You are way too "I'll get to it soon" about whatever it is that's making you ill. Passing out, losing vision, heart problems, trouble breathing, aching joints... it's time to get it figured out once and for all.
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AMEN....stop being stubborn and just go already...NOW. You must take care of yourself, doll🙂
 
Agreed.
With my mother being a nurse, she left a lot of things go to long before seeing a doctor... EXCEPT vision problems and breathing problems. I had vision problems last year that I went to the ER for. It is a pain in the butt to go out and do, but trust me, you will feel so much better knowing what it is and how to take care of it. Please go take care of yourself 🙁
 
I agree with everyone DVMD - you are taking this way to flippantly. I dealt with my health issues immediately when they started and I still have to pay the consequences of having lost a lot visual aquity in my left eye which will probably never come back.

It is NEVER EVER normal to lose vision. EVER. Go to the dr TOMORROW.

Tonight (since you are going tomorrow), sit down and type out a timeline of all your symptoms no matter how big or small and print out a copy for you and a copy to give to the doctor.
 
Since Lucy's arrival, I've had substantially less Penny time because Lucy (dog) insists that Penny (guinea pig) is a tasty snack instead of the love of my life/my buddy/most spoiled and loved piggie ever. It makes me so sad. 🙁 Penny can no longer live in my room with me and instead has to hide out in my parents bedroom where she sees me for carrots at dinner time and then I try to squeeze some snuggle time in before bedtime romaine. Ideally I'd like to spend all day with her because I just love her to pieces!

Before I got Lucy a week and a half ago, I spent lots of time with Penny both in my lap and just being in her presence. It's much harder to get pig time in now because Lucy can't be around for it, and Lucy is basically glued to my side and is very nervous/scared of my brothers (barks/growls/lunges). Penny is an older pig, I just feel so incredibly guilty not getting as much time in with her as possible because I'm already gone 8 months of the year. :cry:
 
jmo1012 said:
Since Lucy's arrival, I've had substantially less Penny time because Lucy (dog) insists that Penny (guinea pig) is a tasty snack instead of the love of my life/my buddy/most spoiled and loved piggie ever. It makes me so sad. 🙁 Penny can no longer live in my room with me and instead has to hide out in my parents bedroom where she sees me for carrots at dinner time and then I try to squeeze some snuggle time in before bedtime romaine. Ideally I'd like to spend all day with her because I just love her to pieces!

Before I got Lucy a week and a half ago, I spent lots of time with Penny both in my lap and just being in her presence. It's much harder to get pig time in now because Lucy can't be around for it, and Lucy is basically glued to my side and is very nervous/scared of my brothers (barks/growls/lunges). Penny is an older pig, I just feel so incredibly guilty not getting as much time in with her as possible because I'm already gone 8 months of the year. :cry:
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I hear ya - I've had a similar thing happen with dogs/rabbits and it's hard even when the dog is pretty good with small creatures.
 
Parents and sister hit a deer on their drive home after dropping me off. Theyre all alright which is a rave but it makes me want make them drop me off earlier in the day so its easier to see.
 
orca2011 said:
Parents and sister hit a deer on their drive home after dropping me off. Theyre all alright which is a rave but it makes me want make them drop me off earlier in the day so its easier to see.
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Glad they are ok!
 
My cat just hung her entire arse outside the box and peed all over the floor. 😡 Thank god for insomnia tonight. I heard it tinkling on the floor. If I had been asleep, it would have seeped under the door jam(whole stupid house slants).

😡
 
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