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[Doctor-S]

Thanks Ski <3 <3. She is out of surgery. She should be ok but this may end her career in law enforcement.

@wallydo ... sending best wishes to your cousin for a speedy recovery. Sending good thoughts to you and your family, too.

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[DVMDream]

I can't sleep. I'm nauseous. I'm exhausted. I want to sleep, but I can't. I don't want to work tomorrow but then I don't really want to step foot in a vet clinic ever again but that's been a long time coming. Wish I could find a good job that I actually do like that doesn't make me feel emotionally and physically drained. A job in which it is acceptable to say no to abusive clients or customers.

 

[sheltermed]

I can't sleep. I'm nauseous. I'm exhausted. I want to sleep, but I can't. I don't want to work tomorrow but then I don't really want to step foot in a vet clinic ever again but that's been a long time coming. Wish I could find a good job that I actually do like that doesn't make me feel emotionally and physically drained. A job in which it is acceptable to say no to abusive clients or customers.

So sorry to hear about your loss, DVMD. I'm here to listen if you ever need to vent. I understand how you must be feeling, I recently lost my grandfather whom I was very close to...it will take time, but try to surround yourself with friends and positivity as best as you can. I know that's tough with work--are you able to get another doctor to cover for you because of your recent loss? I am always around quite late, so I am here for you if you need. Everyone here really cares about you!

 

[sheltermed]

My cat (who lives with my parents) came home...just showed up at the back door like it was normal, didn't use the trap they set out for him. Little jerk.

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[psilovethomas]

I can't sleep. I'm nauseous. I'm exhausted. I want to sleep, but I can't. I don't want to work tomorrow but then I don't really want to step foot in a vet clinic ever again but that's been a long time coming. Wish I could find a good job that I actually do like that doesn't make me feel emotionally and physically drained. A job in which it is acceptable to say no to abusive clients or customers.

Hey, PM me (here or fb) if you need to talk. I just left a similar situation.

 

[Doctor-S]

I can't sleep. I'm nauseous. I'm exhausted. I want to sleep, but I can't. I don't want to work tomorrow but then I don't really want to step foot in a vet clinic ever again but that's been a long time coming. Wish I could find a good job that I actually do like that doesn't make me feel emotionally and physically drained. A job in which it is acceptable to say no to abusive clients or customers.

Having lost both of my parents at a young age (my Mom passed away when I was still a teenager), I understand grief and loss. It can feel excruciating.

However, unlike you, I am not dealing with abusive clients; and I love my professional career. I appreciate the differences between your career and mine. We're both doctors, but I don't have to deal with "pet" parents who are abusive or antagonistic toward me. Kindly feel free to PM me if you ever feel like venting.

Everyone cares about you ... and we're all here for you! That's for sure.

 

[DVMDream]

Thanks, everyone. I think I'm just over vet med and not sure if it is my current situation or just tired of the job itself.

 

[Coquette22]

Thanks, everyone. I think I'm just over vet med and not sure if it is my current situation or just tired of the job itself.

Never underestimate the power of a bad situation to make everything feel like crap. Bail if you can. It's much easier to deal with life's bull**** when other things are okay.

 

[orca2011]

Just got the notification email like early this morning that my request for consolidating my loans went through. First payment was due on the 7th which now means my first payment is late since I only found out today...

 

[Coopah]

Just got the notification email like early this morning that my request for consolidating my loans went through. First payment was due on the 7th which now means my first payment is late since I only found out today...

Usually you have a couple days after the payment is due before it's considered late. In addition they usually have to send you a billing statement before the first payment is due. Don't worry!

 

[Momokeen]

Definitely don't let your manager guilt you into staying longer, you gave plenty of notice and it's really not your problem if they're having trouble finding someone to hire. I agree I would maybe say something to your co-worker rather than the manager since you said the co-worker is your friend and the manager is a bit of a gossip. Maybe she was just trying to be honest and didn't realize how badly it was coming across?

Aaaaand another person (another employee) said they weren't coming back. Clearly this place has some issues. My manager called me today and asked if I'd be able to stay on just for Saturday's. Didn't really know what to say on the spot so she told me to think about it. It's kind of tempting because my dog has lymphoma and we get a 50% discount which is pretty nice, but it's also a lot to deal with. Guess I need to decide if it's worth it to deal with the toxicity. She says she has more interviewees coming but if my co-workers keep scaring them away things are going to get crazy

 

[Skimble]

Aaaaand another person (another employee) said they weren't coming back. Clearly this place has some issues. My manager called me today and asked if I'd be able to stay on just for Saturday's. Didn't really know what to say on the spot so she told me to think about it. It's kind of tempting because my dog has lymphoma and we get a 50% discount which is pretty nice, but it's also a lot to deal with. Guess I need to decide if it's worth it to deal with the toxicity. She says she has more interviewees coming but if my co-workers keep scaring them away things are going to get crazy

If the place is toxic, don't stay for any reason. You need the time off before vet school.

 

[WeimMama]

I can't sleep. I'm nauseous. I'm exhausted. I want to sleep, but I can't. I don't want to work tomorrow but then I don't really want to step foot in a vet clinic ever again but that's been a long time coming. Wish I could find a good job that I actually do like that doesn't make me feel emotionally and physically drained. A job in which it is acceptable to say no to abusive clients or customers.

I'm sorry you're feeling this way Keep looking. One of my favorite vets at the last place I work once told me that before she came to our clinic she was working at a wonderfully high paying referral clinic with all the bells and whistles and was about to quit vet med to do ANYTHING else and was looking into a desk job at USDA because she was so unhappy there when she found the job at that hospital where I was working. She is still there 6 years later and is happier than ever. So much can change with "the scenery."

 

[deleted498041]

Just got the notification email like early this morning that my request for consolidating my loans went through. First payment was due on the 7th which now means my first payment is late since I only found out today...

I just got the email that my loans were successfully consolidated yesterday, but no notification about when payments are due. My request for REPAYE apparently takes another 15-20 business days to process AFTER consolidating, so is there a chance I have to make an almost $4k payment prior to that going through? Definitely can't afford that...

[edit] orca, I just checked my loans and it looks like they were put into a two month forbearance -- maybe to avoid the situation I detailed above, as well as your situation? Maybe yours are actually in forbearance so you don't actually have a payment due? I don't know, this is all so confusing.

 

[deleted498041]

I can't sleep. I'm nauseous. I'm exhausted. I want to sleep, but I can't. I don't want to work tomorrow but then I don't really want to step foot in a vet clinic ever again but that's been a long time coming. Wish I could find a good job that I actually do like that doesn't make me feel emotionally and physically drained. A job in which it is acceptable to say no to abusive clients or customers.

So sorry for everything going on with you... Are you a member of NOMV on FB? PM me if you ever need to talk -- or if you want an invite to the group.

 

[variegata]

I just got the email that my loans were successfully consolidated yesterday, but no notification about when payments are due. My request for REPAYE apparently takes another 15-20 business days to process AFTER consolidating, so is there a chance I have to make an almost $4k payment prior to that going through? Definitely can't afford that...

If you get a bill for that much, I'd just call your loan servicer. They are often pretty understanding (and really, they just want you to pay your loan, in whatever amount) and will work with you, as long as you make the issue known. I've had friends who renewed their IBR late, ran into an issue of an unexpectedly high payment, and were able to work with them.

 

[deleted498041]

If you get a bill for that much, I'd just call your loan servicer. They are often pretty understanding (and really, they just want you to pay your loan, in whatever amount) and will work with you, as long as you make the issue known. I've had friends who renewed their IBR late, ran into an issue of an unexpectedly high payment, and were able to work with them.

That's very comforting to know, thank you

 

[Liquid_Phoenix]

That's very comforting to know, thank you

You should be able to defer and they will usually back date it. Give them a call ASAP!

 

[that redhead]

Wish I could find a good job that I actually do like that doesn't make me feel emotionally and physically drained. A job in which it is acceptable to say no to abusive clients or customers.

I'm feeling very similar and have been for a while now. I've been actively looking and applying with no luck. It's far more than simply discouraging. Just letting you know that you aren't alone.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

I'd know of a job for an equine repro specialist (or at least highly interested) vet, but I don't think that really fits any of y'all. Oh and equine sports med/therapy too.

There might be a spot for a small or mixed animal person, but if so, I haven't heard about it yet. The clinic is still being built though.

 

[Gwenevre]

I'd know of a job for an equine repro specialist (or at least highly interested)

vet

Once upon a time that would be me. Or at least sort of. Might still be one day. Bleh.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

Once upon a time that would be me. Or at least sort of. Might still be one day. Bleh.

They are willing to wait for a graduate or resident done next year... but it would have to be the perfect person. (Same probably would apply for SA, even though the website is starting to go up.)

 

[Gwenevre]

They are willing to wait for a graduate or resident done next year... but it would have to be the perfect person. (Same probably would apply for SA, even though the website is starting to go up.)

How about a hopeful pre-vet? Think they'd wait about... 5 years?

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

How about a hopeful pre-vet? Think they'd wait about... 5 years?

The plan is to grow and create more locations for the bovine repro bit... Maybe the equine side too, but that is a bit more complicated. The spot where they are building my lab is being set up to have dorms for people who want to learn OPU and IVF (mostly vets). (So ask again in 5 years!)

New job is good so far!

 

[PrincessButterCup]

New job is good so far!

I'm so glad! You deserve an awesome job.

 

[dyachei]

@DVMDream sorry to hear about your grandma. I know I still think about my grandparents often despite years having passed since their deaths.

It also sounds like you need a real vacation away from everything.

 

[nohika]

My puppy hasn't had a single accident today (whee!!) - but - my almost 7yo has peed in the house twice. I don't know if they're revenge pees (puppy has been here a week - maybe she's realizing puppy won't leave?) or if something else is going on. HRH (7yo) has a vet appointment on Monday, so I guess I'll bring it up then, but... Had her almost two months now, and it's the first time she's ever had an accident. Puppy's being trained with bells, maybe I need to work on that with her, too (she normally goes to the door). I hope she's okay, but if it is revenge-peeing, that's going to be rough to deal with.

 

[cdo96]

Went to my aunt's house where her 1 yo dog is "super friendly". Walked in the door the first time, dog immediately lunged and bit my hand. Didn't even have time to react. Super friendly my ass.

 

[nohika]

My puppy hasn't had a single accident today (whee!!) - but - my almost 7yo has peed in the house twice. I don't know if they're revenge pees (puppy has been here a week - maybe she's realizing puppy won't leave?) or if something else is going on. HRH (7yo) has a vet appointment on Monday, so I guess I'll bring it up then, but... Had her almost two months now, and it's the first time she's ever had an accident. Puppy's being trained with bells, maybe I need to work on that with her, too (she normally goes to the door). I hope she's okay, but if it is revenge-peeing, that's going to be rough to deal with.

Spending today treating her more, taking some one-on-one training time with her while Chai was sleeping, giving her higher-value treats - she went to the door this time and hasn't had another accident, so that's at least a step in the right direction. I'm also going to re-instate her schedule (doggie daycare a few days a week), my writing times, etc, to give her a break. Once Chai's old enough for daycare I'll probably alternate the days so each dog can get some one-on-one time to help avoid jealousy (and to keep me saner).

Fingers crossed this works.

 

[Liquid_Phoenix]

Went to my aunt's house where her 1 yo dog is "super friendly". Walked in the door the first time, dog immediately lunged and bit my hand. Didn't even have time to react. Super friendly my ass.

No time to react sucks! The only dogs I've ever been bit by are the ones that give zero warning signs *eye roll*.

I hope your hand is ok?!

 

[cdo96]

No time to react sucks! The only dogs I've ever been bit by are the ones that give zero warning signs *eye roll*.

I hope your hand is ok?!

Yeahhh if I see that the dog is gonna bite, I can usually get my hand out of the way, and restrain. But the dog was right by the door and immediately lunged. She got me in three places, broke the skin but didn't draw blood. Two of the spots are gone, but there's still a spot by my thumb that's still around. I'm gonna be fine lol, it was just frustrating that her automatic response was biting me. She was super sweet for the rest of the night though!

 

[Liquid_Phoenix]

Yeahhh if I see that the dog is gonna bite, I can usually get my hand out of the way, and restrain. But the dog was right by the door and immediately lunged. She got me in three places, broke the skin but didn't draw blood. Two of the spots are gone, but there's still a spot by my thumb that's still around. I'm gonna be fine lol, it was just frustrating that her automatic response was biting me. She was super sweet for the rest of the night though!

Probably because she felt bad for the way she greeted you! Glad to hear you'll be ok. Is she usually like that with new people?

 

[cdo96]

Probably because she felt bad for the way she greeted you! Glad to hear you'll be ok. Is she usually like that with new people?

Nope! First time! I'm special! *eye roll*

It's okay. She was cuddling with me all last night. She even got in bed with me and was snuggling with me, it was great! I woke up with her head on my chest with a **** eating grin on her face. She's really sweet, idk why she bit.

 

[WeimMama]

Nope! First time! I'm special! *eye roll*

It's okay. She was cuddling with me all last night. She even got in bed with me and was snuggling with me, it was great! I woke up with her head on my chest with a **** eating grin on her face. She's really sweet, idk why she bit.

Maybe you coming in the door startled her?

 

[variegata]

Two out of five of my balcony neighbors on my side of the building are smokers. I have the windows open in the evening, with a box fan blowing inward, trying to get my apartment to cool off...but several times a night over the past month, I've had to turn the fan outward and shut the sliding door due to all their second hand smoke. Even more irritating when they smoke at 11pm and I have to get out of bed to shut out their cancer fumes.

 

[Lupin21]

Two out of five of my balcony neighbors on my side of the building are smokers. I have the windows open in the evening, with a box fan blowing inward, trying to get my apartment to cool off...but several times a night over the past month, I've had to turn the fan outward and shut the sliding door due to all their second hand smoke. Even more irritating when they smoke at 11pm and I have to get out of bed to shut out their cancer fumes.

That is really lame. I can't believe all the younger smokers I still see about. Blows my mind.

 

[variegata]

That is really lame. I can't believe all the younger smokers I still see about. Blows my mind.

It is baffling to me how folks who look my age smoke when they presumably were exposed to the same kind of anti-smoking messages I was as a kid.
Cigarette smoke sucks. Honestly, if it was weed, I really probably wouldn't care.

 

[cdo96]

Two out of five of my balcony neighbors on my side of the building are smokers. I have the windows open in the evening, with a box fan blowing inward, trying to get my apartment to cool off...but several times a night over the past month, I've had to turn the fan outward and shut the sliding door due to all their second hand smoke. Even more irritating when they smoke at 11pm and I have to get out of bed to shut out their cancer fumes.

I would definitely die. I developed really bad asthma 3 years ago, and cigarette smoke is my number 1 trigger. All of my grandma's sisters smoke, so I was visiting them this weekend and had to use my inhaler/ nebulizer 3 times. I just can't do cigarettes. Ugh. I feel for you.

 

[DVMDream]

It is baffling to me how folks who look my age smoke when they presumably were exposed to the same kind of anti-smoking messages I was as a kid.
Cigarette smoke sucks. Honestly, if it was weed, I really probably wouldn't care.

I can't handle any kind of smoke from anything. Cigarettes, hookah, Marijuana.... just doesn't matter it all makes me cough and gag.

 

[Coopah]

just having another day doubting whether or not vet med is truly where i want to be and if i am really okay going into so much debt for such comparatively low pay and respect from clients... or if i should get out of vet school now before my debt hits six figures. ugh. i just don't know that i have the passion or desire for it anymore.

Oh Sandy, I offer no wisdom, only hugs and understanding.

 

[that redhead]

just having another day doubting whether or not vet med is truly where i want to be and if i am really okay going into so much debt for such comparatively low pay and respect from clients... or if i should get out of vet school now before my debt hits six figures. ugh. i just don't know that i have the passion or desire for it anymore.

FWIW, I personally don't know that I'd do it all again - there are parts I am loving and find fulfilling and parts that frustrate me to no end that I hate. Is it worth the price - financially, emotionally, time-wise? Probably not, at least for me. I don't know that I'll leave vet med any time soon but I am definitely feeling like it's a job, no more and no less. Everyone will hate things about their job - there is no perfect place. But not everyone has to go into that much debt to hate their job

 

[RoryCat]

just having another day doubting whether or not vet med is truly where i want to be and if i am really okay going into so much debt for such comparatively low pay and respect from clients... or if i should get out of vet school now before my debt hits six figures. ugh. i just don't know that i have the passion or desire for it anymore.

I have been having similar doubts for the same reasons. I love the "idea" of being a vet but not sure if I really want to deal with all of the garbage from clients every day. (On top of the nearly 300k I will be in debt) It doesn't help that there is a well paying job available near my mother that I feel I would enjoy..... very tempting.

Know that you are definitely not alone and if you ever need to talk I am all ears.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

just having another day doubting whether or not vet med is truly where i want to be and if i am really okay going into so much debt for such comparatively low pay and respect from clients... or if i should get out of vet school now before my debt hits six figures. ugh. i just don't know that i have the passion or desire for it anymore.

Always willing to listen. I had to find something else for different reasons, but I have traveled through many animal jobs and other industries. If you want to talk to someone who can compare how the others suck, I'm your gal! If you just wanna vent, I can just listen too.

 

[LadyOtheFarm]

Poison ivy and trying to find a lawyer still. Ugh.

 

[Emily Faith]

I go back and forth between loving my job and hating it. I absolutely love assiting with surgeries and the medical side of it. But the six techs and two doctors are 100% female and constantly talk behind each others backs rather than just approach the issue directly. I hate confrontation so usually just keep to myself but am still told plenty of gossip (makes me wonder what they're saying about me). Today someone left a bottle of insulin out and ruined it. So, being the new girl, I got blamed. It's assumed I can pick up everybody's shifts even though I'm already pushing 40 hours a week. I'm reserved and so it's not uncommon for people to walk all over me until I finally have had enough. Not to mention the clients who are hateful simply because I'm new and not the tech they preferred. Ahhhh. The pay is good and I need it for vet school but my mental stamina is severely depleted.

 

[Lupin21]

I go back and forth between loving my job and hating it. I absolutely love assiting with surgeries and the medical side of it. But the six techs and two doctors are 100% female and constantly talk behind each others backs rather than just approach the issue directly. I hate confrontation so usually just keep to myself but am still told plenty of gossip (makes me wonder what they're saying about me). Today someone left a bottle of insulin out and ruined it. So, being the new girl, I got blamed. It's assumed I can pick up everybody's shifts even though I'm already pushing 40 hours a week. I'm reserved and so it's not uncommon for people to walk all over me until I finally have had enough. Not to mention the clients who are hateful simply because I'm new and not the tech they preferred. Ahhhh. The pay is good and I need it for vet school but my mental stamina is severely depleted.

This is the perfect opportunity then to learn how to stand up for yourself. If you continue this type of behavior, it will likely happen throughout your life and have a major impact when you do try to go out and begin your veterinary career. You will agree to work all the undesirable shifts, take on the clients no one else wants, and not negotiate a salary equal to your worth. You don't have to be aggressive or abusive to stand up for yourself. There are plenty of ways to make sure you take care of yourself in a way that leaves everyone thinking you are a great person and maybe they should reevaluate how they do things as well.

 

[LetItSnow]

FWIW, I personally don't know that I'd do it all again - there are parts I am loving and find fulfilling and parts that frustrate me to no end that I hate. Is it worth the price - financially, emotionally, time-wise? Probably not, at least for me. I don't know that I'll leave vet med any time soon but I am definitely feeling like it's a job, no more and no less. Everyone will hate things about their job - there is no perfect place. But not everyone has to go into that much debt to hate their job

That's about where I'm at. Two years out. I enjoy the medicine part of emergency medicine but the hours and the (too low) ratio of good:bad clients don't counterbalance the pros (fun medicine, decent pay) enough that, given the option to go back in time, I'd do it over again.

 

[PrincessButterCup]

I go back and forth between loving my job and hating it. I absolutely love assiting with surgeries and the medical side of it. But the six techs and two doctors are 100% female and constantly talk behind each others backs rather than just approach the issue directly. I hate confrontation so usually just keep to myself but am still told plenty of gossip (makes me wonder what they're saying about me). Today someone left a bottle of insulin out and ruined it. So, being the new girl, I got blamed. It's assumed I can pick up everybody's shifts even though I'm already pushing 40 hours a week. I'm reserved and so it's not uncommon for people to walk all over me until I finally have had enough. Not to mention the clients who are hateful simply because I'm new and not the tech they preferred. Ahhhh. The pay is good and I need it for vet school but my mental stamina is severely depleted.

I agree with Lupin. You've got to set boundaries. If you're asked to pick up an extra shift, you can say no - it's not your responsibility to make sure the schedule is covered. You work your hours, and if you want to pick up some extra when asked, great! If not, you shouldn't feel guilty for telling them no.

Your work situation sounds eerily similar to my old clinic, and I had your same personality - I put up with a lot of crap from my boss just because I didn't want the mess of a confrontation, and it was just easier to take it. That absolutely contributed to the disaster that was last summer - it's really hard to break out of that kind of relationship when you've finally had enough.

 

[genny]

Everything has been trying to bite me this week. Knock it off, universe. I like all of my fingers.

 

[DVMDream]

That's about where I'm at. Two years out. I enjoy the medicine part of emergency medicine but the hours and the (too low) ratio of good:bad clients don't counterbalance the pros (fun medicine, decent pay) enough that, given the option to go back in time, I'd do it over again.

I wouldn't go back and do it again. But I'm incredibly jaded and completely worn out.