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It's looking ****ing bleak for the aspiring rural LA folks :/
Yep. And that’s exactly me. My partner just sent me another article about the tr*mp layoffs in dairy research sectors (aka what I would be doing if I didn’t attend vet school) and I’m just like what else can go wrong for me rn😅
 
Yep. And that’s exactly me. My partner just sent me another article about the tr*mp layoffs in dairy research sectors (aka what I would be doing if I didn’t attend vet school) and I’m just like what else can go wrong for me rn😅
sigh...it's like anything and everything of value is under attack regarding research and education. I guess everyone should just become a ****ing plumber?? I live in a Trumpy azz rural area and literally everywhere it's another trump trump trump sign. Exactly three days ago I saw ONE handmade sign that said "stop musk, fight trump!" and within three days it was torn to SHREDS on the person's driveway. Mother****ing toe-sucking Republicans are so fragile they can't respect any speech in opposition to their own on someone's private property. Now anytime anyone complains about a lack of large animal vets in this area, I can't help but wonder who they voted for. Without IDR how can any LA vet survive who isn't doing equine sports medicine or something for those who can afford such treatments. They'll laugh about no more "My taXEs paYIng foR ARt deGREes" but shoot themselves in the foot every time with their own ignorance.

I really don't even have a plan B to vet school. Vet school WAS the plan B when starving artist didn't work out LOL. I could go back to cheesemaking but....I just don't want to. At this point my plan is looking like obtaining massive debt in the US (if private loans are the only option) and then **** off to another country and never return 😂
 
While I agree the loan debacle is not cool. It doesn't necessarily mean you can't go be that LA vet-it may look a little different but there are decent LA jobs out there with better pay. Some even come with state loan repayment programs if the vmlrp goes away.

Anyone looking to do mainly beef cattle in CO that looks mostly like KS lmk and I have a couple of clinics to hook you up with to see if they're the right fit for you! If you do reach out pls lmk your willingness to see SA (while you might not love it, its a great $ booster)

No doubt it's rough though pending where you're looking.
 
sigh...it's like anything and everything of value is under attack regarding research and education. I guess everyone should just become a ****ing plumber?? I live in a Trumpy azz rural area and literally everywhere it's another trump trump trump sign. Exactly three days ago I saw ONE handmade sign that said "stop musk, fight trump!" and within three days it was torn to SHREDS on the person's driveway. Mother****ing toe-sucking Republicans are so fragile they can't respect any speech in opposition to their own on someone's private property. Now anytime anyone complains about a lack of large animal vets in this area, I can't help but wonder who they voted for. Without IDR how can any LA vet survive who isn't doing equine sports medicine or something for those who can afford such treatments. They'll laugh about no more "My taXEs paYIng foR ARt deGREes" but shoot themselves in the foot every time with their own ignorance.

I really don't even have a plan B to vet school. Vet school WAS the plan B when starving artist didn't work out LOL. I could go back to cheesemaking but....I just don't want to. At this point my plan is looking like obtaining massive debt in the US (if private loans are the only option) and then **** off to another country and never return 😂
Yeah I already started eyeballing internships and residencies abroad lol, and set the seed in my hubbys head about foreign income tax exclusion or whatever it's called.
 
i am INCREDIBLY grateful to be in this position of being able to pick where I want to go to vet school HOWEVER, this decision is so hard 😭 i applied to so many schools in hopes that one would say yes; i didn’t expect to have the chance to actually pick. my heart is telling me to go to one place but my brain says another due to finances. I know a DVM is a DVM and at the end of the day i should go where is cheapest, but man ……
 
i am INCREDIBLY grateful to be in this position of being able to pick where I want to go to vet school HOWEVER, this decision is so hard 😭 i applied to so many schools in hopes that one would say yes; i didn’t expect to have the chance to actually pick. my heart is telling me to go to one place but my brain says another due to finances. I know a DVM is a DVM and at the end of the day i should go where is cheapest, but man ……
What places are you torn between?
 
work full time as a RA, make $2.1k a month. partner is unemployed (works 3 hours a week in a lab if even that), and i'm now having to foot the bill for groceries, and gas. now i have to consider getting a second job..im so irked right now
is he swamped in schoolwork or something? why doesn't he get more hours? 🤔
 
work full time as a RA, make $2.1k a month. partner is unemployed (works 3 hours a week in a lab if even that), and i'm now having to foot the bill for groceries, and gas. now i have to consider getting a second job..im so irked right now

Jeez, I don't want to make assumptions about your relationship, but making you get a second job over him getting one sounds like you're being taken advantage of (barring specific circumstances that prevent him from working & helping you out, obviously)
 
is he swamped in schoolwork or something? why doesn't he get more hours? 🤔
the lab is not communicating with him when they need him, they just send him a text randomly and be like "hey we need you today" and then he goes in for an hour.

Jeez, I don't want to make assumptions about your relationship, but making you get a second job over him getting one sounds like you're being taken advantage of (barring specific circumstances that prevent him from working & helping you out, obviously)
he worked 30-ish hours a week in the fall and brought in decent money. we were able to pay off our credit cards, pay rent, go out once in a while and it was good. then his grades started slipping and a co-worker threatened him (like really bad i almost called the cops) so he quit. i told him he could sit the rest of the semester out and i could cover for 2 months, well now its been 4 months and he barely goes to class.


i just called him while i was at work and told him i felt disrespected by his actions and he understood and apologized profusely. i told him he needed to email the lab team and tell them that you need to meet with them urgently to figure out a schedule and if they truly need you or not because it's inconsiderate of your time and mine. he said he'd get on it right away and start looking for a part-time job during the nights or on the weekends to help out again. i told him i dont want this to be a problem again, especially if when he moves in with me in Colorado next year. and he agreed and acknowledged his mistakes.

so, we shall see.
 
the lab is not communicating with him when they need him, they just send him a text randomly and be like "hey we need you today" and then he goes in for an hour.


he worked 30-ish hours a week in the fall and brought in decent money. we were able to pay off our credit cards, pay rent, go out once in a while and it was good. then his grades started slipping and a co-worker threatened him (like really bad i almost called the cops) so he quit. i told him he could sit the rest of the semester out and i could cover for 2 months, well now its been 4 months and he barely goes to class.


i just called him while i was at work and told him i felt disrespected by his actions and he understood and apologized profusely. i told him he needed to email the lab team and tell them that you need to meet with them urgently to figure out a schedule and if they truly need you or not because it's inconsiderate of your time and mine. he said he'd get on it right away and start looking for a part-time job during the nights or on the weekends to help out again. i told him i dont want this to be a problem again, especially if when he moves in with me in Colorado next year. and he agreed and acknowledged his mistakes.

so, we shall see.
Could this be a depression situation that needs to be addressed more specifically?
 
Could this be a depression situation that needs to be addressed more specifically?
he struggles with his mental health, as do i. i have offered him resources, i have provided support. the thing is, he goes to a few classes and then comes home and hyper fixates on his interests for the rest of the day. i have to beg him to help out around the house and do the dishes or clean the bathroom. he cares for the dog while i'm at work, i'll 100% give him that.

he gets these waves, some days he's great and other days he's not. i provide understanding, compassion, empathy and support. but there comes a point where i see he is not proactive in trying to address the things he needs to address, and in turn, it brings me down and affects me. then i'm the one who has to clean, and do the laundry, and vacuum the house, and clean the living room, and clean the bedroom, and think about what we will eat this week, and budget for the next month.

i'm not sure what more i can do here to help him.
 
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UT and NCSU. NCSU is the cheaper option but i really love UT 😭
I went to UT, and I loved it. I love Knoxville. I fell in love with that place the moment I interviewed. But if I'd had a cheaper option, I would have gone elsewhere. Take it from someone 5 years out and looking at student loan repayment projections and hoping income based repayment doesn't disappear, because without it my loan payments would be almost half my current monthly income (granted that situation is a bit less dire for jobs that pay real money and not residencies, but it's still significant). And I only paid OOS tuition the first year!

Go to NCSU. The extra cost is not worth it. We have always told everyone to go to their cheapest option but that is even more important now.
 
I went to UT, and I loved it. I love Knoxville. I fell in love with that place the moment I interviewed. But if I'd had a cheaper option, I would have gone elsewhere. Take it from someone 5 years out and looking at student loan repayment projections and hoping income based repayment doesn't disappear, because without it my loan payments would be almost half my current monthly income (granted that situation is a bit less dire for jobs that pay real money and not residencies, but it's still significant). And I only paid OOS tuition the first year!

Go to NCSU. The extra cost is not worth it. We have always told everyone to go to their cheapest option but that is even more important now.
yea…even though I really love UT. thanks for grounding me a bit lol
 
yea…even though I really love UT. thanks for grounding me a bit lol
My daughter is having this same contemplation (she's not on here with an acct)... with NCSU being the cheaper option for her as well. We went to the welcome student weekend at NCSU and it was a lovely school and area. We are relying a lot on the NCSU residency though.... so many unknowns, so stressful. Our instate option is so expensive with UPenn. Congratulations on your successful application cycle and good luck with your decision!
 
he struggles with his mental health, as do i. i have offered him resources, i have provided support. the thing is, he goes to a few classes and then comes home and hyper fixates on his interests for the rest of the day. i have to beg him to help out around the house and do the dishes or clean the bathroom. he cares for the dog while i'm at work, i'll 100% give him that.

he gets these waves, some days he's great and other days he's not. i provide understanding, compassion, empathy and support. but there comes a point where i see he is not proactive in trying to address the things he needs to address, and in turn, it brings me down and affects me. then i'm the one who has to clean, and do the laundry, and vacuum the house, and clean the living room, and clean the bedroom, and think about what we will eat this week, and budget for the next month.

i'm not sure what more i can do here to help him.
Understood. You can't do anything more to help him, he has to help himself at this point. Just don't let yourself become his provider if that's not what you want, because it happens without you realizing it. I absolutely respect mental health challenges, I face them myself and get how hard it can make things. But at some point, not seeking help is a choice.

And you're absolutely correct that this needs to be figured out before you start school. Vet school is tough on even the healthiest relationships.
 
UT and NCSU. NCSU is the cheaper option but i really love UT 😭
I'm an NCSU grad and think I got a fantastic education for a bargain deal cost, especially compared to the vast majority of vet schools. I recommend people attend NCSU without any qualms. I still live in the area and enjoy it, too.
 
I'm an NCSU grad and think I got a fantastic education for a bargain deal cost, especially compared to the vast majority of vet schools. I recommend people attend NCSU without any qualms. I still live in the area and enjoy it, too.
were you OOS? i’m kinda stressed about the process of changing residency after 1st year and would love more insight ! 😵‍💫
 
I’m annoyed at myself for being so nervous to drive. I just got a car and I’ve had my license for a few years now. I definitely need to drive I have off site clinics starting Monday and the thought of driving is making me way more scared rn than clinics is. I’m trying to get myself to go practice the route I will be taking today and I am just procrastinating. Like I’m in vet school I need to drive ugh.
 
I’m annoyed at myself for being so nervous to drive. I just got a car and I’ve had my license for a few years now. I definitely need to drive I have off site clinics starting Monday and the thought of driving is making me way more scared rn than clinics is. I’m trying to get myself to go practice the route I will be taking today and I am just procrastinating. Like I’m in vet school I need to drive ugh.
It's completely understandable to be nervous!! I'm in the same boat - moved to the suburbs recently after living in cities and even after years of driving, I'm still nervous to get on the road. Just here to say you are not alone in feeling this way 🫠
 
It's completely understandable to be nervous!! I'm in the same boat - moved to the suburbs recently after living in cities and even after years of driving, I'm still nervous to get on the road. Just here to say you are not alone in feeling this way 🫠
Yeah I’ve been able to either walk places, bike, or just uber if need be and just ask friends. Glad I’m not the only one! Oof, I guess like vet school, I just have to do it.
 
Y’ALLL I watched 10 min of that and jeeeeesus Christ. Zelensky had an amount of composure I don’t think I’ll ever know.
Piss baby Vance would **** his pants in a diaper and then get shot full of bullet holes if his soft ****ty body EVER faced a glimpse of combat. But that pompous potato had the nerve to point fingers at a leader they could NEVER hope to be. Once Zelensky mentioned that the US “will feel it too” he wasn’t allowed to get one more word in, clearly Trump and Vance can’t understand the implications of cascading geopolitical effects of an emboldened Russia affecting not only Ukraine but uhhh other countries as well, including the US. But his supporters say Zelenskyy was threatening them? Give me a break with this clown show… Trump acts like he built the US alone or something. More like he’s tearing it apart at the seams. It was so disrespectful to watch and even with non-allies such a mockery wouldn’t even happen, I’m sure they’d roll out the red carpet for P*tin.
I’d also like to see Trump or Vance try and conduct negotiations in Ukrainian but they’re so braindead the concept of another language but English doesn’t even compute.
 
Y’ALLL I watched 10 min of that and jeeeeesus Christ. Zelensky had an amount of composure I don’t think I’ll ever know.
Piss baby Vance would **** his pants in a diaper and then get shot full of bullet holes if his soft ****ty body EVER faced a glimpse of combat. But that pompous potato had the nerve to point fingers at a leader they could NEVER hope to be. Once Zelensky mentioned that the US “will feel it too” he wasn’t allowed to get one more word in, clearly Trump and Vance can’t understand the implications of cascading geopolitical effects of an emboldened Russia affecting not only Ukraine but uhhh other countries as well, including the US. But his supporters say Zelenskyy was threatening them? Give me a break with this clown show… Trump acts like he built the US alone or something. More like he’s tearing it apart at the seams. It was so disrespectful to watch and even with non-allies such a mockery wouldn’t even happen, I’m sure they’d roll out the red carpet for P*tin.
I’d also like to see Trump or Vance try and conduct negotiations in Ukrainian but they’re so braindead the concept of another language but English doesn’t even compute.
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I have no words for the absolute shame I feel, seeing Zelenskyy treated this way. That man is a literal war hero.
 
I'm giving my notice this week. This job is causing me enough distress that my watch gives me heart rate alerts when I talk to my boss. I don't have a new job lined up yet but now I will have time to go visit some different places and find something that doesn't make me cry every night when I get home or make me want to lie down in traffic. After all those years of school, I want to WANT to be a vet.
Ok so I ended up doing this later (to follow a couple of pending cases and also put a little more $ in the bank) but I put in my notice TODAY and I feel both huge relief and also overwhelming dread... but at least the end is in sight now. 💩
 
I know this rant is absolutely in the #firstworldproblems category, but I am so incredibly frustrated with house hunting. I just want a decent house that has some character (literally 80% of the houses here are carbon copies). Needs to check most of our boxes, but we aren't looking for a huge/fancy house. Our budget is getting us absolutely no where in this area. Any decent house within our budget flies off the market after a bidding war brings it up to $50k over asking, because other people are in the exact same boat as us.

My husband is also making this as painful as possible by only having eyes for new builds we can barely afford (and in areas *I* don't want to live in, because they're far af), and trashing any other house that isn't brand new. He's also struggling with the very circular argument of 'Well they shouldn't cost this much, so we won't buy them' 'Ok, but they do cost this much and I don't want to be in an apt, and we want to have a kid and we have no space here, and we can't afford to rent something larger but you also won't move to a cheaper area so we can save more/pay less rent, so we need to buy a house to move forward' 'But the houses shouldn't cost this much' 'But they do' and repeat x100000.

At this point idk what else to do. Of course I'd love for houses to be cheaper, but they aren't and we've both agreed that we want to be in a house. I'm just defeated. I find exactly what we need in our budget and he finds something miniscule to dislike and calls it a 'deal breaker.' I feel like I'm wasting all of my free time on Zillow and MLS while he's playing video games, and then takes all of 10 seconds to look at a listing before I hear 'Nope.'

:arghh:
 
I know this rant is absolutely in the #firstworldproblems category, but I am so incredibly frustrated with house hunting. I just want a decent house that has some character (literally 80% of the houses here are carbon copies). Needs to check most of our boxes, but we aren't looking for a huge/fancy house. Our budget is getting us absolutely no where in this area. Any decent house within our budget flies off the market after a bidding war brings it up to $50k over asking, because other people are in the exact same boat as us.
I read yesterday that pending home sales are at an all time low rn so maybe the market is about to crumble? (I've been saying this for 5 years too but now I'm crossing my fingers extra tight.)
 
I read yesterday that pending home sales are at an all time low rn so maybe the market is about to crumble? (I've been saying this for 5 years too but now I'm crossing my fingers extra tight.)
I kind of hope you're right, but I worry that would coincide with an overall economic crash which would probably put both of our jobs (as well as many others) at risk. And yeah agreed - people have been saying that the housing market will crash and interests rates will plummet since ~2022 when they started to go back up
 
I kind of hope you're right, but I worry that would coincide with an overall economic crash which would probably put both of our jobs (as well as many others) at risk. And yeah agreed - people have been saying that the housing market will crash and interests rates will plummet since ~2022 when they started to go back up
Can we pause that for two months please? I'm living on the flip side of this...listing my house for twice what we bought it for 8 years ago and using some of that to help with school. I do not envy those trying to buy.
 
Can we pause that for two months please? I'm living on the flip side of this...listing my house for twice what we bought it for 8 years ago and using some of that to help with school. I do not envy those trying to buy.
I think you will be okay based on how it's all been going! But yeah, not a good time for buyers at all. We couldn't afford to buy our last house for what we sold it for which is nuts (and most of that profit went right to my student loans, so I get it!).
 
I feel like I'm wasting all of my free time on Zillow and MLS while he's playing video games, and then takes all of 10 seconds to look at a listing before I hear 'Nope.'

Maybe suggest he spend an hour a day finding a list of houses that fit X parameters. Puts the ones on him to do the work, you play your switch, and then discuss for half an hour after dinner and you can have the moment to say, "Deal breaker here, babe."

Petty? Yes. But now that I'm in a single income home where I have to track every single dollar in and out, I cannot fathom someone not making a list of more to least important priority and realizing that compromises are needed.
 
I feel like I'm wasting all of my free time on Zillow and MLS while he's playing video games, and then takes all of 10 seconds to look at a listing before I hear 'Nope.'
Can you ask him to make a list of open houses to look at? Or make a list and get him to visit a few with you? My husband will reject houses for very silly reasons (like paint color), but I've found that if I put him in the house and talk about painting it, he's not so dismissive. We've moved a few times together, and I've found that if we start by actually going and looking at what's available, then we can get a more realistic list of deal-breakers. We used to say we'd never live in a split-level, but then we found a house that was perfect in every other way, so oops we bought a split-level.
 
Y’ALLL I watched 10 min of that and jeeeeesus Christ. Zelensky had an amount of composure I don’t think I’ll ever know.
Piss baby Vance would **** his pants in a diaper and then get shot full of bullet holes if his soft ****ty body EVER faced a glimpse of combat. But that pompous potato had the nerve to point fingers at a leader they could NEVER hope to be. Once Zelensky mentioned that the US “will feel it too” he wasn’t allowed to get one more word in, clearly Trump and Vance can’t understand the implications of cascading geopolitical effects of an emboldened Russia affecting not only Ukraine but uhhh other countries as well, including the US. But his supporters say Zelenskyy was threatening them? Give me a break with this clown show… Trump acts like he built the US alone or something. More like he’s tearing it apart at the seams. It was so disrespectful to watch and even with non-allies such a mockery wouldn’t even happen, I’m sure they’d roll out the red carpet for P*tin.
I’d also like to see Trump or Vance try and conduct negotiations in Ukrainian but they’re so braindead the concept of another language but English doesn’t even compute.
I’m Ukrainian and I have family in Ukraine but my family entire family in the US are major trump supporters. With vet school apps, fearing for my family’s life over there and fighting my family in the US, I’m so drained and exhausted. I have a cousin who was here for a month and just went back home to Ukraine today and he looked so defeated after the White House meeting yesterday. I can’t wrap my head around how they could simultaneously be so upset about the war not ending but also kiss trumps ass.
 
Can you ask him to make a list of open houses to look at? Or make a list and get him to visit a few with you? My husband will reject houses for very silly reasons (like paint color), but I've found that if I put him in the house and talk about painting it, he's not so dismissive. We've moved a few times together, and I've found that if we start by actually going and looking at what's available, then we can get a more realistic list of deal-breakers. We used to say we'd never live in a split-level, but then we found a house that was perfect in every other way, so oops we bought a split-level.
My husband has rejected houses over paint color too! Any chance he's an engineer? Lol.
Maybe suggest he spend an hour a day finding a list of houses that fit X parameters. Puts the ones on him to do the work, you play your switch, and then discuss for half an hour after dinner and you can have the moment to say, "Deal breaker here, babe."

Petty? Yes. But now that I'm in a single income home where I have to track every single dollar in and out, I cannot fathom someone not making a list of more to least important priority and realizing that compromises are needed.
The thing is that if I have him look at the listings, we won’t be touring anything. He will literally find a dent in a wall in a picture and that’s a dealbreaker. I'm getting the sense that our realtor is going to kick us to the curb at some point honestly. We toured a perfectly lovely house this past weekend and it was like pulling teeth to get him to agree to an offer (and this house checked every single box, was in good condition, and was cute!).

Part of me thinks he doesn't want to commit to a house right now with economic concerns, but unless you're going to actually verbalize that instead of working the sabotage angle, I'm going to keep looking.
 
Part of me thinks he doesn't want to commit to a house right now with economic concerns, but unless you're going to actually verbalize that instead of working the sabotage angle, I'm going to keep looking.

If his concerns are economic, buying ASAP would be better! Interest rates are about to go nuts
 
If his concerns are economic, buying ASAP would be better! Interest rates are about to go nuts
That's kind of my thought, but I think he's more worried about his job than he lets on (he's auto industry, which has not been doing well). But if that's the case, my entire metro area is going to be in crumbles/a 2008 repeat. So I don't fault him for being worried, but losing your job could happen anytime really, he's just more immune to layoffs as an engineer than someone in manufacturing
 
Second rant of the day: tried to have a constructive conversation with a semi-popular DVM on instagram regarding loan payoff. This vet just published a story saying that many new grads live far too extravagantly for their debt load, and then posted a screenshot of a single new grad they know that paid $430k off in five years with the 'see! it's possible and you can make so much money being debt free at a young age!' So basically implying to his followers that they are eating too much avocado toast and travelling to much if they aren't paying off their loans as quickly as this person did.

Sent them a polite DM about how they are likely leaving out a significant amount of information as to how that new grad was able to pay off that amount in such a short time (aka financial support from someone else for starters) and that most new grads are not living extravagantly.

The response? 'DVMs that attack their loans live in big cities and just pick up extra shifts.'

Ugh. it's just super misleading and damaging. I lived in a big city and picked up extra shifts, AND had a husband paying most of our bills and wouldn't have paid off $430k in 5 years. It is not normal or expected to be able to pay off mega-debt in a short time frame. Nearly all people who do that only do so under certain circumstances. Ugh.

Oh bull ffs. I paid off like $150k in 5 years and that meant I needed to pay $3-4k per month of my post-tax net salary. I lived in “big cities” and all I did was work. Is that doable? Sure. I pay $4k per month on childcare now. It’s essentially a second hefty mortgage… but it is doable with 2 decent incomes and we are both pretty privileged.

To pay off $430k tho…. The interest alone if at 7% is like $2.5k a month even before you start paying any principle. And if you wanted to start actually paying down that principle you would need to pay like 5-7k a month on top of that to pay it off. Of your post-tax net income!!! Could you do it if you lived like a pauper and took on a $1500 relief shift every single week? I mean yeah… it’s technically possible. To be able to live like that in order for you to do this, you sort of need to be privileged. What crack are people on???
 
7k a month on top of that to pay it off.

7200 is my post-tax take home, give or take a bit depending on how many hours I work. The crack people are on has got to be a well paid spouse that's paying the rest of the bills and some of the student loans too. Like you said, privilege absolutely.
 
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