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Going to be honest here. I did fall asleep during a rotation lecture once. But, I am one of those people that literally fall asleep on all class lectures. That stuff ain't for me.
Rotations SUCK.
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Going to be honest here. I did fall asleep during a rotation lecture once. But, I am one of those people that literally fall asleep on all class lectures. That stuff ain't for me.
As for evals, I honestly dgaf anymore unless it's a P or lower. On one of my rotations, my preceptor knows that there's no way in hell that I'm going into the field. I destroyed that shelf exam and the clinical ward. My preceptor commented "the best student that I have had in the last 10 years. etc..." Clinical grade was a HP, while a chick before me got H bc she declared that she's going into the field.
Id just like to honor SOMETHING.
I have a HP in everything but one.
My step 1 was lackluster to say the least, I was hoping to make myself look better and I feel like I am failing myself.
Still, it sucks being evaluated on your ability to shadow. “Yes, she stands in the corner really well. Read more.”
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Update:
Things are starting to look up y'all.
Will update this later on this week as I'm studying for a shelf.
Will keep it PG since I have been getting many complaints about being too vulgar and cursing and I'm going to get banned soon.
LOL
So I will update y'all about my plans and my experiences thus far and hopefully you guys enjoy it.
Things are starting to look up y'all.
Will update this later on this week as I'm studying for a shelf.
Will keep it PG since I have been getting many complaints about being too vulgar and cursing and I'm going to get banned soon.
LOL
So I will update y'all about my plans and my experiences thus far and hopefully you guys enjoy it.
Lol, I love that. Gave me a good laugh. The one good part about me being cheap labor is at least I can have comments about my work ethic in my MSPE.
At least you get HP at your school. We have F,P, and H.
Fail < 10th
Honors >80th
A pass is anything in between. So even though I've been getting 50-60 on most exams, it still just shows up as a P.
Fail < 10th
Honors >80th
A pass is anything in between. So even though I've been getting 50-60 on most exams, it still just shows up as a P.
No matter what 10% of your class fails? That's freakin rough.
No no. It's based on the national NBME averages.
Ah, gotcha.
***LIFE UPDATE ALERT***
Alrighty my babies.
Hope y'all are doing well in each and every one of your guys' respective journeys.
So the past few months have certainly been eye-opening for me on a personal, professional, and emotional tip.
First things first - boy oh boy are there a lot more entitled and bratty medical students than I ever imagined there would be. I thought it was JUST MY class?
But jeez... I just wasn't ready.
HOWEVER... it is REAL EASY to stick out... as you will see soon.
Case-in point... first week of my inpatient internal med rotation was spent bickering for 4 HOURS over the schedule on who would have to take night shifts the first week.
On a team of 6, there were 3 little princesses and 2 pretty boys (who made it VERY clear they were going to do Derm, Ortho, and Plastic Surgery... all as DOs who only took the COMLEX and were told they still had shots by their advisors... yeah.... I couldn't believe it....but whatever... no sweat off of my back and none of my concern) all clicking away on their iphone Xs and sipping on their starbucks in their super slick FIGS scrubs that just kept going on and on about how they have other obligations ... "an engagement party" on this day... "New Year's eve get-togethers with some friends on this day"... and "Bachelor parties they couldn't miss".... mixed with a "Long-time Tinder date that I promised I'd take out..".
I'm serious.
These are our "future doctors" of America lol.
More concerned with getting sprayed and laid than the actual job of studying and tending to their responsibilities as medical students.
Idgaf what they do outside of these hospital walls... but once it interferes with MY livelihood and MY planning and MY schedule... yeah... I'm worried and I don't appreciate it.
I put myself out there and guess who got to do the first 5 night shifts by himself? THIS GUY!!! 🙂
I didn't mind having to do the night shifts and made that VERY clear while everybody was complaining about the schedule. I made that clear only 7 times... but turns out that some medical students just LOVEEE to hear themselves talk and change the subject so many times. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Are you frickin' kidding me? GROW UP.
Is it really that hard to be mature and understand that we can't all get what we want? Will this type of attitude and work ethic be apparent in residency? If so... then these same students are in for a rude awakening. Quite frankly, I PRAY I don't end up in the hospital with ANY of these types of brats as co-residents or residents in ANY of ther other programs/specialties I'd be blessed to enter.
I don't wanna sound all negative that my whole experience was crap... but I also met some of the NICEST students in a while and it was QUITE a breath of fresh air.
Unfortunately, all 3 of them were on different rotations.
One dude saw that my white coat had some pen stains and made a very kind gesture to get me a pocket protector before the day was done during rounds (he was off-service).
As I was leaving that same day, he literally took his own pocket protector out and gave it to me.
I was just so taken aback.. I couldn't believe it.
I had barely met the dude and he literally did the smallest gesture for me but I sincerely appreciated it.
I made sure I let the other residents know what he did and they made a note to put that in his eval.
I cannot make this up.
I bet some of you are like... wtf... what a creep.. why would you mention that...
and honestly... because the dude deserves it. I'm sure he wasn't looking for any accolades or any attention by such a small favor... but I wanted to make sure that his deed didn't go unnoticed and if it helps him in the future...then I consider that good karma for both of us.
Another one of these angels in disguise went out of her way to stay with me for a few hours after the first day shift to show me how the EMR system works. We ran through a few notes and she sat with me and helped me out to make sure I can write solid notes and have a solid presentation flow for the residents when we got new admits or anything.
The other student let me use her meal card when I accidentally forgot mine at home and offered to help me with my notes as it was barely my 2nd day.
It's little stuff like this that didn't make me dread coming to the hospital.
It really restored my faith that amongst a majority of the brats... there are some good souls out there... and it's THESE people that make me glad I chose this profession and THESE are the people I'd want to train with.
Oh.. another thing...
A lot of medical students just don't have common sense. I'm sure I've mentioned this but jeez...
Talking and making jokes during rounds... walking like slugs in front of the attending and eventually getting chewed out by who was the CHILLEST resident in that group is just SOOO BAD. lol
You literally have to lack ALL emotional and social intelligence to cause this sweetheart of a resident to get on your case. Lmao.
I'm not saying they deserved it... but.... nah.. never mind... they definitely deserved that lol
THANK GOD somebody said something.
They eventually reverted back to night shifts and didn't see them the rest of the rotation. It was bliss.
I know this sounds like me complaining but I want to reiterate... that there is so much more than scores and grades once you reach rotations.
It's so easy to see and tell who are the board geeks whose whole existence is determined by numbers and those who bring so much more to the table.
Use common sense.... which is supposedly so much harder than it seems for a majority of medical students.
Please don't walk into sign out late and proceed to make jokes while the attending is listening to the new admit. You look absolutely stupid.
It ALWAYS pays to be nice and kind. Straight up.
Do the dirty work that the other whiners don't want. That's how you stand out.
When I was the only med student on nights, it stuck out to the residents.
They told me straight up that it doesn't look good for the others and that nothing goes unnoticed.
I didn't throw them under the bus and told the residents that many of them had other "personal obligations to tend to but I'm sure if they could swing it.. they would make it. I'm just trying to learn and everybody has their own situation!"
Residents let me leave super early and kept many of the others the whole 12 hour shifts when it was their time.
All in all... rotations have their ups and downs...rest of my rotations are pretty much chill... all of my evals and scores have been in the high pass range (which I'm totally ecstatic about lol.... even though this is SDN and everybody gets honors in their sleep)... and I'm almost done with UW and now my focus is gonna be to kill step 2.
I have about a good 4 months to buckle down and hit it hard!
Thank y'all for reading my thoughts on this stuff so far and I'm working on my delivery... but it's so hard to give a flying...
you know what I mean. 😉
It gets better y'all.
Don't let others' arrogance and immaturity drive you down to their level.
Alrighty my babies.
Hope y'all are doing well in each and every one of your guys' respective journeys.
So the past few months have certainly been eye-opening for me on a personal, professional, and emotional tip.
First things first - boy oh boy are there a lot more entitled and bratty medical students than I ever imagined there would be. I thought it was JUST MY class?
But jeez... I just wasn't ready.
HOWEVER... it is REAL EASY to stick out... as you will see soon.
Case-in point... first week of my inpatient internal med rotation was spent bickering for 4 HOURS over the schedule on who would have to take night shifts the first week.
On a team of 6, there were 3 little princesses and 2 pretty boys (who made it VERY clear they were going to do Derm, Ortho, and Plastic Surgery... all as DOs who only took the COMLEX and were told they still had shots by their advisors... yeah.... I couldn't believe it....but whatever... no sweat off of my back and none of my concern) all clicking away on their iphone Xs and sipping on their starbucks in their super slick FIGS scrubs that just kept going on and on about how they have other obligations ... "an engagement party" on this day... "New Year's eve get-togethers with some friends on this day"... and "Bachelor parties they couldn't miss".... mixed with a "Long-time Tinder date that I promised I'd take out..".
I'm serious.
These are our "future doctors" of America lol.
More concerned with getting sprayed and laid than the actual job of studying and tending to their responsibilities as medical students.
Idgaf what they do outside of these hospital walls... but once it interferes with MY livelihood and MY planning and MY schedule... yeah... I'm worried and I don't appreciate it.
I put myself out there and guess who got to do the first 5 night shifts by himself? THIS GUY!!! 🙂
I didn't mind having to do the night shifts and made that VERY clear while everybody was complaining about the schedule. I made that clear only 7 times... but turns out that some medical students just LOVEEE to hear themselves talk and change the subject so many times. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Are you frickin' kidding me? GROW UP.
Is it really that hard to be mature and understand that we can't all get what we want? Will this type of attitude and work ethic be apparent in residency? If so... then these same students are in for a rude awakening. Quite frankly, I PRAY I don't end up in the hospital with ANY of these types of brats as co-residents or residents in ANY of ther other programs/specialties I'd be blessed to enter.
I don't wanna sound all negative that my whole experience was crap... but I also met some of the NICEST students in a while and it was QUITE a breath of fresh air.
Unfortunately, all 3 of them were on different rotations.
One dude saw that my white coat had some pen stains and made a very kind gesture to get me a pocket protector before the day was done during rounds (he was off-service).
As I was leaving that same day, he literally took his own pocket protector out and gave it to me.
I was just so taken aback.. I couldn't believe it.
I had barely met the dude and he literally did the smallest gesture for me but I sincerely appreciated it.
I made sure I let the other residents know what he did and they made a note to put that in his eval.
I cannot make this up.
I bet some of you are like... wtf... what a creep.. why would you mention that...
and honestly... because the dude deserves it. I'm sure he wasn't looking for any accolades or any attention by such a small favor... but I wanted to make sure that his deed didn't go unnoticed and if it helps him in the future...then I consider that good karma for both of us.
Another one of these angels in disguise went out of her way to stay with me for a few hours after the first day shift to show me how the EMR system works. We ran through a few notes and she sat with me and helped me out to make sure I can write solid notes and have a solid presentation flow for the residents when we got new admits or anything.
The other student let me use her meal card when I accidentally forgot mine at home and offered to help me with my notes as it was barely my 2nd day.
It's little stuff like this that didn't make me dread coming to the hospital.
It really restored my faith that amongst a majority of the brats... there are some good souls out there... and it's THESE people that make me glad I chose this profession and THESE are the people I'd want to train with.
Oh.. another thing...
A lot of medical students just don't have common sense. I'm sure I've mentioned this but jeez...
Talking and making jokes during rounds... walking like slugs in front of the attending and eventually getting chewed out by who was the CHILLEST resident in that group is just SOOO BAD. lol
You literally have to lack ALL emotional and social intelligence to cause this sweetheart of a resident to get on your case. Lmao.
I'm not saying they deserved it... but.... nah.. never mind... they definitely deserved that lol
THANK GOD somebody said something.
They eventually reverted back to night shifts and didn't see them the rest of the rotation. It was bliss.
I know this sounds like me complaining but I want to reiterate... that there is so much more than scores and grades once you reach rotations.
It's so easy to see and tell who are the board geeks whose whole existence is determined by numbers and those who bring so much more to the table.
Use common sense.... which is supposedly so much harder than it seems for a majority of medical students.
Please don't walk into sign out late and proceed to make jokes while the attending is listening to the new admit. You look absolutely stupid.
It ALWAYS pays to be nice and kind. Straight up.
Do the dirty work that the other whiners don't want. That's how you stand out.
When I was the only med student on nights, it stuck out to the residents.
They told me straight up that it doesn't look good for the others and that nothing goes unnoticed.
I didn't throw them under the bus and told the residents that many of them had other "personal obligations to tend to but I'm sure if they could swing it.. they would make it. I'm just trying to learn and everybody has their own situation!"
Residents let me leave super early and kept many of the others the whole 12 hour shifts when it was their time.
All in all... rotations have their ups and downs...rest of my rotations are pretty much chill... all of my evals and scores have been in the high pass range (which I'm totally ecstatic about lol.... even though this is SDN and everybody gets honors in their sleep)... and I'm almost done with UW and now my focus is gonna be to kill step 2.
I have about a good 4 months to buckle down and hit it hard!
Thank y'all for reading my thoughts on this stuff so far and I'm working on my delivery... but it's so hard to give a flying...
you know what I mean. 😉
It gets better y'all.
Don't let others' arrogance and immaturity drive you down to their level.
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That was a trap. Bad move on your part. I think you could have gotten Honor if you actually stayed the entire 12 and more for those 12 hr shift. Work ethic is uninspiring there, mate.
Glad to hear things are looking up for you Queenie. It's amazing how far being a normal, interested, not socially awkward med student will get you. It doesn't take much to make you stand out in a good way on these rotations.
Keep us posted Queen, I enjoy reading the ins and outs of your experience.
Advice I received from family and mentors was that showing up on time with good hygiene and dress would put you ahead of lots of med students. They also said being polite and showing respect would get you ahead of even more of them. Glad to hear they weren't wrong.
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@QueenJames just because you have to stop cursing doesn’t mean you get you stop typing in all caps and double space each sentence.
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Maybe he finally fixed his enter key after all these years
I think he lost the cap locks key and just found it. On the real tho, it consistently annoys me when going to type in my password and finding out one of the nurses left on the caps lock. Why do you use the caps lock key? That thing needs to go the way of headphones jacks on the iphone. The shift key isn't a new thing
HAMMER PAGING MD. MD AWARE. PT PAIN 10/10 WHILE ASLEEP MD AWARE AWAITING ORDERSI think he lost the cap locks key and just found it. On the real tho, it consistently annoys me when going to type in my password and finding out one of the nurses left on the caps lock. Why do you use the caps lock key? That thing needs to go the way of headphones jacks on the iphone. The shift key isn't a new thing
Lol, now that takes me back. MD aware indeed.
I think I remember how this goes:
2358 - PT SPIKED FEVER OF 99.9 DEGREES WITH 92 HR, 22 RESPIRATION'S, PAGED MD X4, GIVING PT ICE BATH, AWAITING CALLBACK.
0002 - NOTIFIED NURSING ADMINISTRATION OF SIRS CRITERIA MEETING PATIENT, AND INABILITY TO GET AHOLD OF MD DESPITE MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS.
0004- GAVE PATIENT ICE BATH WHILE WAITING FOR MD CALL BACK. ADDITIONAL 3 PAGES SENT.
0015- FINALLY RECIEVED CALLBACK, PT TEMPATURE DOWN TO 95 DEGREES AFTER ICE BATH. NO NEW ORDERS GIVEN
0401 PAGED MD X3 FOR CRITICAL 201 GLUCOSE. CALLBACK RECEIVED, NO NEW ORDERS GIVEN. PT SLEEPING
0423 PAGED MD. MADE AWARE OF 3.2 POTASSIUM. POTASSIUM PROTOCOL STARTED.
0453- PAGED MD. PT FAMILY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN STOP WAKING THEM SO MUCH AT NIGHT. AWAITING CALLBACK.
0503- INCIDENT REPORT: MD CALLBACK AND YELLED AND CREATED UNCOMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR STAFF WHO WHERE JUST TRYING TO DO OUR JOB. BERATING ME AND CALLING ME 'FRUSTRATING' AND SAYING I SHOULDN'T 'PAGE SO MUCH' IN NASTY TONE. THIS IS UNPROFESSIONAL AND MD SHOULD BE DENIED PRIVILEGES FOREVER.
That caps lock key, nothing good comes of it.
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Doing all of the above will get you at least a High Pass along with average medical knowledge in most cases.
But, in my opinion, you have to get down and choke on something really hard and strong 24/7 to get Honor. Also, some preceptors don’t give out honor. Some preceptor just gives you a Pass, not a High Pass, regardless on your performance. I just came off a rotation where all categories were marked Excellent with strong comments for my mspe and was assigned a Pass. My opinion on why I’m getting this grade bc it was obvious that I had my mind made up about not going into the field, as evident by me not asking more quests about the specialty or LOR at the end. That’s the thing with electives here. Some preceptors are going to get butt hurt if they sense that you’re def not going into the field.
Some wise words of wisdoms from my upperclassmen are to make sure you at least HP Surgery, IM, and your specialty of choice. Then, you should just focus on doing well on Step 2.
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You don't deserve a hug until you pop at least 230 on your Step 2. Get to work.
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Bro he’s that DPC life. Why take step 2? Level 2 all the way
Im 3rd year, and we get graded on our rotations with numbers like numerical. (50% comes from preceptor grade, 30% shelf, and 20% quiz we have to do). Like how would Program directors look at those grades? like we actually get number grades on each rotation out of 100
They would probably want to see 90's, and check out the graphs your school is giving them showing your performance compared to the class.
Honestly, I think they’re looking at the overall comments from preceptors throughout your third yr plus grades at Surgery IM and specialty of choice. There’s no way in hell that some random 2-3 mediocre grades from outside specialties are going to carry more weight than Step 1 and Step 2.
Speaking of amateur a-holes in medicine, I personally met some attendings with baby mommas and gfs met through tinder. It doesn’t stop after med school for some people. Imagine yourself getting graded by one of these people or some insecure DO.
Thank god all my call schedules were made for me and none of this was ever a problem. Damn dude
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