Smash Bros WW Game Thread

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

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Lies 😛

Lol yep, oops, to Jboo. And that is what I meant to do to clarify

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Sorry just had to point out another person making the point Skimble and I were trying to make earlier (underlined).

Depending on how this flip goes and the night, I think I want to start looking at some of our quieter people (which probably includes me to some extent but still) - ny, glam, MJ, genny, etc.

I think I missed your posts and skimble's

Was it the exact same thought?

 

[SportPonies]

END DAY 3

The Bridge of Eldin: a vacation destination. Or something. The sun rises and sets right behind the bridge every day, casting a perfect backdrop for photographs. Of course, the glare also made for horrific vision, and most fighters spent the day shielding their eyes from the sun as they sparred with opponents single-handedly.

As is tradition, at the end of the evening, the center of the bridge was blown up for someone to deal with later. What else are you supposed to do to keep Hyrulean heroes busy?

All of our fighters had to leap over the chasm to make their way home, and unfortunately, one of them didn't quite make it. Mewtwo made the jump, but a few other fighters decided to use his shoulders as a springboard in the middle of his flight. Try as he did to recover, the shove was too much, and he tumbled into the ravine below.

Spoiler

Dead is @johnnaboo, Mewtwo, a villager who could PM with one person each day cycle.

The Roster:
1. @Animal Midwife
2. @Melchizedek
3. @WildZoo
18. @Mad Jack
6. @RedLauren/@Karabiner13 hydra
7. @MixedAnimals77
8. @dolphin106258
9. @kcoughli
10. @nyanko
11. @TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo
12. @LadyOTheFarm
13. @allieh8607
14. @SARdoghandler
15. @CoffeeQuestionMark
16. @genny
17. @Miranda Senft
19. @Skimble
21. @Stagg737
22. @bryndiana.jones
23. @Glammyre
25. @PippyPony
26. @DVMDream
4. @PrincessButterCup
27. @StayingPositive2017
5. @Crayola227

Dead:
24. Coopah - Sheik, Untrackable wolf
20. johnnaboo - Mewtwo, PMer

It is now Night 3. Night close at 5 AM CST.​

 

[Animal Midwife]

Contingency Lynch bryndy

 

[Melchizedek]

So ummm...yeah
Contingency Lynch PBC

 

[dolphin106258]

@johnnaboo all you had to do was say you're a Pokemon! Automatically clear in my book

 

[Animal Midwife]

Do tell

jboo was pretty clearly village to me and it was a bandwagon all day.

 

[DVMDream]

So now the question is was that last minute switch by Coffee really to break the tie or was it to keep PBC out of harm's way?

 

[bryndiana.jones]

jboo was pretty clearly village to me and it was a bandwagon all day.

So she is supposed to be clearly village to everyone else then? I got new information and changed my top pick accordingly

 

[Animal Midwife]

So she is supposed to be clearly village to everyone else then? I got new information and changed my top pick accordingly

Okay, glad you're still around but that was a response to Pippy.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Le wat

What?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Also, @Animal Midwife why were you getting on kcough and Skim for not wanting to vote with people they were suspicious of? Wasn't that why you didn't like the jboo vote yesterday?

It was the first suspect voting the the second suspect being problematic that didn't make sense to me. I didn't suspect jboo so that's why I didn't like the jboo vote yesterday.

 

[dolphin106258]

So now the question is was that last minute switch by Coffee really to break the tie or was it to keep PBC out of harm's way?

I also had this thought

 

[KCgophervet]

I think I missed your posts and skimble's

Was it the exact same thought?

The point was just that when someone you think is sketchy votes to lynch someone else you also think is sketchy, it makes you rethink everything you think you think about who is or is not sketchy.

Make sense?

 

[Skimble]

@Skimble have you been PMing with moose?

Nope. I don’t think that was even possible until boo died, right? I got a pm from boo d1, replied, and she never replied back. Other than that, I’ve only pm’d mods (occasionally while well hydrated.)

As an aside, there is absolutely zero guarantee that a PM role would be village. That role is equally split between wolf and village (if anything, might lean slightly more wolf based on the games I've played), and has equal utility as both affiliations. Shouldn't clear or condemn anyone.

Depends a lot on the mod. Some really prefer it to be a village ability, others like it to be wolf. I feel like it’s more often village though.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Nope. I don’t thing that was even possible until boo died, right? I got a pm from boo d1, replied, and she never replied back. Other than that, I’ve only pm’d mods (occasionally while well hydrated.)

Depends a lot on the mod. Some really prefer it to be a village ability, others like it to be wolf. I feel like it’s more often village though.

Jboo was on fhe other side. Moose is above you.

 

[Skimble]

Jboo was on fhe other side. Moose is above you.

Whoops, just saw that she was 17 and I’m 19 and assumed boo was 18. But yeah, everything else still stands. I haven’t pm’d anyone besides the one reply to boo.

 

[WildZoo]

So ummm...yeah
Contingency Lynch PBC

Thoughts on her interactions with coop? That's what moved her further down my list

 

[WildZoo]

What?

Don't understand what you were saying in that post. Coffee was too slow on what? And ties don't exist in what scenario?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Don't understand what you were saying in that post. Coffee was too slow on what? And ties don't exist in what scenario?

Too slow to tie up the votes and it wouldn't have been possible anyway.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

Too slow to tie up the votes and it wouldn't have been possible anyway.

I wasn't trying to create a tie

 

[DVMDream]

Too slow to tie up the votes and it wouldn't have been possible anyway.

Um, the vote was tied, coffee untied it.

 

[WildZoo]

Too slow to tie up the votes and it wouldn't have been possible anyway.

Oh I read coffee's post as it was worth it to lynch jboo for creating the tie, not that she (coffee) was trying to create a tie. She broke it.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I wasn't trying to create a tie

Um, the vote was tied, coffee untied it.

Oh I read coffee's post as it was worth it to lynch jboo for creating the tie, not that she (coffee) was trying to create a tie. She broke it.

There was never a tie. It was 7-6 PBC-jboo before the switch.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

There was never a tie. It was 7-6 PBC-jboo before the switch.

False, it was 6-6 it ended 7-6 courtesy coffee

 

[WildZoo]

There was never a tie. It was 7-6 PBC-jboo before the switch.

Eh? Not according to le tally. Coffee switched from me, so before she switched it was 6-6

Day 3 Lynch Tally FINAL:
Stagg (1) - DVMD
WZ (2) - allieh, Pippy
Glamm (1) - WZ
Moose (2) - RL-KB, Jimble
DVMD ()
Bryndy (2) - AM, Stagg
jboo (7) - kcough, dolph, Moose, PBC, MJ, LoTF, Coffee?
SAR (1) - nyan
PBC (6) - Mel, SAR, bryndi, MA, genny, jboo
NY (1) - BBC
23/26

Check your votes!

 

[WildZoo]

DVMD got me thinking in a french accent

 

[genny]

There was never a tie. It was 7-6 PBC-jboo before the switch.

No, I moved and changed it from 4-7 to 5-6 PBC-boo, then jboo switched to tie it up, then Coffee untied it.

 

[Animal Midwife]

False, it was 6-6 it ended 7-6 courtesy coffee

Eh? Not according to le tally. Coffee switched from me, so before she switched it was 6-6

No, I moved and changed it from 4-7 to 5-6 PBC-boo, then jboo switched to tie it up, then Coffee untied it.

Okay, I thought Coffee? was on PBC for some reason.

 

[Glammyre]

I know I'm probably missing things, but how is there so much posting and so little to pick out? As best as I can tell from the day,

-Moose attracted suspicion for not following up on feels when she should have a spreadsheet to do so
-Vaguely re-started suspicions on WZ and jboo, not much progression on either front
-Genny defused Moose lynch so people switched off to jboo
-Some people didn't like the jboo vote either, so consolidated on PBC as a second choice.

There was a lot of ability talking today, which I'm not paying much attention to. Yes, PMing can be wolf or village, and silencing can be wolf or village - I put a village silencer in my game. It's more relevant to discuss if the silencer is a wolf because they stopped BBC from contributing when she said she'd have time, which seems like a valid point. Unfortunately, I''m not sure how far we can pursue that - it doesn't look like anyone was silenced today, and we have 3 different post restrictions on 2 people to sort through instead.

I'll admit, I didn't work extra hard to try and finish analysis before lynch because I was kinda suspicious of jboo yesterday. Out of the people today

-Moose's responses and unwillingness to lynch would probably have me moving to lynch her. I can't give you credit for having a spreadsheet and then not see you act like you have it.
-Would have waffled off after genny said moose was a bad idea, probably onto jboo for prior day suspicions.

@WildZoo, about Day 1 - Mixy's defensiveness day 1 reminded me of her attitude in WWhisk, where my wolf pack kept her alive because we thought we might be able to pressure her into displaying it and make her a lynch target. I felt strongly enough about her being a villager to want to try and present a viable alternative to her lynch. My top suspicions weren't lynch candidates, and rarely anything good happens from trying to start a new lynch target 40min before lynch closes. Voting for Coffee was an attempt to get Mixy off of lynch and to learn more about the lynch by asking the source. You're right that it's a vote I didn't necessarily believe in, but I didn't have strong feels for Coffee as a villager like I did for Mixy. The turnaround was deciding who in that first half-day seemed most suspicious (I think there was only a page and a half before I made the comment about one of the wolves already shaping the vote).

As for current reads - Pippy/Mixy/Cray getting passes obvs. Fern has moved up to villager given that the silencing was wolfy, but would move into far wolf territory if it looks like we don't have a silencer. Moose and Genny tentatively getting passes because that level of vouch seems odd for a wolf-wolf interaction. Moose gets more village cred than Genny because I think it'd be difficult for a wolf to provide the level of proof Genny would need to switch, but Genny still gets some because I don't think a wolf would stick their neck out for a villager like that unless the villager knew the wolf could and could blow their cover before being lynched. Coffee moves up villager rankings with getting attacked, but am very surprised there aren't more details about that. @CoffeeQuestionMark, is there anything you can say about the attack without spoiling the protector ability text?

PBC is someone that I want to be villager. DVMD, WZ, and AM are in same boat - I see them posting and trying to solve the game.

As for wolves - I could see Paws as one with the reliance on outside factors to push people ("I've seen that you're on the thread", etc). Those kind of things are persuasive enough to get people lynched without taking the same kind of work as regular reads. I know that I followed the one about bryndi yesterday, but I could talk to her to try and work that story out, and I'm not on here as much. Paws has been on here enough that I'm a little surprised they're focusing on that. Other suspects are allieh and ny for being quieter. I think I saw Skimble post more today, so I'm a little less worried about her. Sure, pot/kettle on the last reads. But, frankly, I haven't been a good villager today, and probably won't be a good villager tomorrow either.

contingency lynch Paws

so at least I get a vote in tomorrow. Would prefer to vote on the wolf against whom I have something more than "quiet"

Alright, out for the night. Wonder how many pages got written while I was working on this?

EDIT: Less than one! The pace is slowing!

 

[Animal Midwife]

@CoffeeQuestionMark Why jboo over the person who decided MOOSE was sketchy and voted with her in the end?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I know I'm probably missing things, but how is there so much posting and so little to pick out? As best as I can tell from the day,

-Moose attracted suspicion for not following up on feels when she should have a spreadsheet to do so
-Vaguely re-started suspicions on WZ and jboo, not much progression on either front
-Genny defused Moose lynch so people switched off to jboo
-Some people didn't like the jboo vote either, so consolidated on PBC as a second choice.

There was a lot of ability talking today, which I'm not paying much attention to. Yes, PMing can be wolf or village, and silencing can be wolf or village - I put a village silencer in my game. It's more relevant to discuss if the silencer is a wolf because they stopped BBC from contributing when she said she'd have time, which seems like a valid point. Unfortunately, I''m not sure how far we can pursue that - it doesn't look like anyone was silenced today, and we have 3 different post restrictions on 2 people to sort through instead.

I'll admit, I didn't work extra hard to try and finish analysis before lynch because I was kinda suspicious of jboo yesterday. Out of the people today

-Moose's responses and unwillingness to lynch would probably have me moving to lynch her. I can't give you credit for having a spreadsheet and then not see you act like you have it.
-Would have waffled off after genny said moose was a bad idea, probably onto jboo for prior day suspicions.

@WildZoo, about Day 1 - Mixy's defensiveness day 1 reminded me of her attitude in WWhisk, where my wolf pack kept her alive because we thought we might be able to pressure her into displaying it and make her a lynch target. I felt strongly enough about her being a villager to want to try and present a viable alternative to her lynch. My top suspicions weren't lynch candidates, and rarely anything good happens from trying to start a new lynch target 40min before lynch closes. Voting for Coffee was an attempt to get Mixy off of lynch and to learn more about the lynch by asking the source. You're right that it's a vote I didn't necessarily believe in, but I didn't have strong feels for Coffee as a villager like I did for Mixy. The turnaround was deciding who in that first half-day seemed most suspicious (I think there was only a page and a half before I made the comment about one of the wolves already shaping the vote).

As for current reads - Pippy/Mixy/Cray getting passes obvs. Fern has moved up to villager given that the silencing was wolfy, but would move into far wolf territory if it looks like we don't have a silencer. Moose and Genny tentatively getting passes because that level of vouch seems odd for a wolf-wolf interaction. Moose gets more village cred than Genny because I think it'd be difficult for a wolf to provide the level of proof Genny would need to switch, but Genny still gets some because I don't think a wolf would stick their neck out for a villager like that unless the villager knew the wolf could and could blow their cover before being lynched. Coffee moves up villager rankings with getting attacked, but am very surprised there aren't more details about that. @CoffeeQuestionMark, is there anything you can say about the attack without spoiling the protector ability text?

PBC is someone that I want to be villager. DVMD, WZ, and AM are in same boat - I see them posting and trying to solve the game.

As for wolves - I could see Paws as one with the reliance on outside factors to push people ("I've seen that you're on the thread", etc). Those kind of things are persuasive enough to get people lynched without taking the same kind of work as regular reads. I know that I followed the one about bryndi yesterday, but I could talk to her to try and work that story out, and I'm not on here as much. Paws has been on here enough that I'm a little surprised they're focusing on that. Other suspects are allieh and ny for being quieter. I think I saw Skimble post more today, so I'm a little less worried about her. Sure, pot/kettle on the last reads. But, frankly, I haven't been a good villager today, and probably won't be a good villager tomorrow either.

contingency lynch Paws

so at least I get a vote in tomorrow. Would prefer to vote on the wolf against whom I have something more than "quiet"

Alright, out for the night. Wonder how many pages got written while I was working on this?

EDIT: Less than one! The pace is slowing!

I can say that it was definitely different than the message Skimble got N1

 

[WildZoo]

I can say that it was definitely different than the message Skimble got N1

I don't remember skim mentioning that she got anything n1

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

@CoffeeQuestionMark Why jboo over the person who decided MOOSE was sketchy and voted with her in the end?

If I don't go with my gut, what's the point of having one?

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

I don't remember skim mentioning that she got anything n1

Yeah. Funny.

 

[PippyPony]

Just did a little re-reading. Couple questions:

@Animal Midwife , are you chaos? I'm legit asking. You literally bounced all over the freaking roster and have continually voted in opposite directions of who you were questioning.

@allieh8607 , where are you and why didn't you recognize what a commuter role was? You've been playing for like...a while, and I feel like you should know that -- so much so that I didn't even really realize it was you who I responded to with an explanation. On re-read that looks like tossing suspicion without placing a vote.

Why did people clear @dolphin106258 ? Was it just that one comment by Coop? If so, that's kinda weak.

All that said, @Mad Jack and @nyanko I'm moving my vote towards you soon if I don't have compelling reasons not to.

 

[nyanko]

what a vague and wishy washy threat that is

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife , are you chaos? I'm legit asking. You literally bounced all over the freaking roster and have continually voted in opposite directions of who you were questioning.

What do you mean?

 

[PippyPony]

what a vague and wishy washy threat that is

Well, consider it reflective of my opinion of your votes and commentary thus far

 

[PippyPony]

What do you mean?

I mean usually you have some ... discernable pattern. This game you just seem to be vascillating wildly between targets.

 

[allieh8607]

@allieh8607 , where are you and why didn't you recognize what a commuter role was? You've been playing for like...a while, and I feel like you should know that -- so much so that I didn't even really realize it was you who I responded to with an explanation. On re-read that looks like tossing suspicion without placing a vote.

My schedule drastically opens up tomorrow so I will be much more present on thread. I really don't think I've played in a game since my hiatus that has had a commuter role. And before my hiatus that role was definitely not a thing.

 

[CoffeeQuestionMark]

@CoffeeQuestionMark Why jboo over the person who decided MOOSE was sketchy and voted with her in the end?

Also if you were so sure Jboo was village, could've broken the tie yourself 😕

Since you didn't, I can only imagine that you had a hint of doubt.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I mean usually you have some ... discernable pattern. This game you just seem to be vascillating wildly between targets.

Well, I'm not sure what to tell you because I think I'm being pretty consistent.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Also if you were so sure Jboo was village, could've broken the tie yourself 😕

Since you didn't, I can only imagine that you had a hint of doubt.

I didn't see the tie.

 

[PippyPony]

Thoughts on her interactions with coop? That's what moved her further down my list

I know you're not asking me, but I just re-read and I don't think those interactions clear anyone of anything. The PBC/Coop back and forth could definitely have been fabricated, as could have AM's back and forth with Coop. And actually, AM moving off of an early vote for Coop and then questioning her later on before totally, inexplicably dropping it again was pretty weird in retrospect.

 

[PippyPony]

Well, I'm not sure what to tell you because I think I'm being pretty consistent.

Well, now you are voting for the same person two days in a row, yes. That's not what I meant. But want to explain where that vote is coming from?

 

[PippyPony]

@MixedAnimals77 what's your take on your PM partners who you told your role info to?

Edit: and did you PM both of them at the same time? RedLauren said it was around 8am?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Well, now you are voting for the same person two days in a row, yes. That's not what I meant. But want to explain where that vote is coming from?

bryndi has been lurking. Over 50% of her discussion was about mechanics and very little of her own opinions. She voted for someone who wasn't in her POE today.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I know you're not asking me, but I just re-read and I don't think those interactions clear anyone of anything. The PBC/Coop back and forth could definitely have been fabricated, as could have AM's back and forth with Coop. And actually, AM moving off of an early vote for Coop and then questioning her later on before totally, inexplicably dropping it again was pretty weird in retrospect.

I mean, why should I question someone who's dead?

 

[PippyPony]

What is POE and where the hell are all these acronyms coming from all of a sudden