Soccer WW - Match thread!

[BigCats]

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I have thought of this, but it just feels off. @everyone, I haven't shared the full details of my role yet, but I also don't think anyone benefits from me doing so... let me know what you think...

@BigCats
@Sunbodi

You both said "it didn't line up". I still think SAR is sketchy AF and this doesn't make sense to me, but I'd like to know what part ticked you off

SAR's been acting weird all game, I was willing to buy the odd night protector thing with no counterclaim, but I'm not buying it if there's an every night protector already present. Claiming to protect genny N1 (who said she didn't receive any notifications) when at least from some of the spreadsheets I've read, you get a notice if you'd been protected. Claiming to protect Sunbodi N3, who got a yellow card last night, which is definitely something I feel like a protector should be able to defend against. Just all around didn't line up.

 

[BigCats]

unlynch SAR

Who are the designated lynchers?

Me, Sunbodi, and killerleaf. Everyone else can stay off the lynch.

 

[deleted804295]

Soccer WW - Match thread!

Ok here are my thoughts on the last couple of pages of thread. I’m betting we have 2-3 wolves left, maybe 4 if we started with 5 and there was a conversion. I feel much better about mpm today than I did yesterday. Especially after her explanation of everything. I’m also not so much leaning...

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I have thought of this, but it just feels off. @everyone, I haven't shared the full details of my role yet, but I also don't think anyone benefits from me doing so... let me know what you think...

@BigCats
@Sunbodi

You both said "it didn't line up". I still think SAR is sketchy AF and this doesn't make sense to me, but I'd like to know what part ticked you off

 

[SARdoghandler]

SAR's been acting weird all game, I was willing to buy the odd night protector thing with no counterclaim, but I'm not buying it if there's an every night protector already present. Claiming to protect genny N1 (who said she didn't receive any notifications) when at least from some of the spreadsheets I've read, you get a notice if you'd been protected. Claiming to protect Sunbodi N3, who got a yellow card last night, which is definitely something I feel like a protector should be able to defend against. Just all around didn't line up.

My role says something along the lines of (paraphrasing is hard) that I only stop goals, not penalties. So I'm pretty sure I can't stop blocks

 

[genny]

you get a notice if you'd been protected

Don't count on it. Not every game does notifications. And protector doesn't always protect from all actions, sometimes it's just kills.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Ugh bleh nevermind I understand now.

 

[BigCats]

This is a bad idea. This outs remaining PRs for a small chance of vengeful wolf.

That's why I'm not asking just PRs to remove their votes. I'm asking ~everyone~ who hasn't already claimed vanillager or used-up power to remove their votes. If everyone does it, then there's plenty of plausible deniability- did they take their vote off because they were a PR or a vanillager? The three of us have already outed ourselves on thread. Wolves won't gain any new info by that.

 

[deleted804295]

My role says something along the lines of (paraphrasing is hard) that I only stop goals, not penalties. So I'm pretty sure I can't stop blocks

So since you're a villager and we already have 1 protector alive and it's safe for us to kill 1 village (since we already killed 2 wolves)-
I'm sure you don't mind taking one for the team so we can narrow down wolves?

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

That's why I'm not asking just PRs to remove their votes. I'm asking ~everyone~ who hasn't already claimed vanillager or used-up power to remove their votes. If everyone does it, then there's plenty of plausible deniability- did they take their vote off because they were a PR or a vanillager? The three of us have already outed ourselves on thread. Wolves won't gain any new info by that.

I’d like to add AT LEAST one more person to this lynch. On the off chance of multiple 3P

 

[BigCats]

Don't count on it. Not every game does notifications. And protector doesn't always protect from all actions, sometimes it's just kills.

I think it would be strange for a protector role to block against kills but not potential vig kills via yellow cards.

 

[mypetmoose]

This is a bad idea. This outs remaining PRs for a small chance of vengeful wolf.

Maybe don't come off if we aren't outted?

 

[BigCats]

I’d like to add AT LEAST one more person to this lynch. On the off chance of multiple 3P

I think three of us can handle it. If two or so other villagers would like to hang around at lynch close just in case, they're more than welcome to. I can't imagine there's all too many non-villagers left with the size of this game, though.

 

[deleted804295]

@SARdoghandler me and Bigcats don't mind sacrificing ourselves for village.

Since you claim village and your role is redundant I'm sure you don't mind either?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Sooooooo. I'm confused.

 

[mypetmoose]

SAR's been acting weird all game, I was willing to buy the odd night protector thing with no counterclaim, but I'm not buying it if there's an every night protector already present. Claiming to protect genny N1 (who said she didn't receive any notifications) when at least from some of the spreadsheets I've read, you get a notice if you'd been protected. Claiming to protect Sunbodi N3, who got a yellow card last night, which is definitely something I feel like a protector should be able to defend against. Just all around didn't line up.

Oh, um actually I also protected genny N1, and I've also protected myself. There really are no notifications I'm pretty sure.

 

[SARdoghandler]

So since you're a villager and we already have 1 protector alive and it's safe for us to kill 1 village (since we already killed 2 wolves)-
I'm sure you don't mind taking one for the team so we can narrow down wolves?

I mean, sure if that's what you guys want. But just an FYI this type of thinking can NAIL you in games with really creative mechanics

 

[BigCats]

Omg. Y'all don't need to be explaining why you're removing your vote. The purpose of using the outed vanilla core for this is to ensure that no one else gets outed in the process of removing their votes. ~Everyone has plausible deniability if everyone does it~

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Maybe don't come off if we aren't outted?

So you're saying only outted people should be on SARs lynch?

 

[deleted804295]

I mean, sure if that's what you guys want. But just an FYI this type of thinking can NAIL you in games with really creative mechanics

Yeah unless the mods are favoring wolves and throwing them a bone after we demolished them two nights in a row- I doubt there would be enough creative mechanics to let them win.

If mods changed mechanics halfway through that's very unfair.

 

[mypetmoose]

So you're saying only outted people should be on SARs lynch?

Opposite. But I actually think I like BigCats plan better now, but I'd be much more comfortable with 4-5 on the lynch

 

[deleted804295]

Okay everyone,

SAR is willing to sacrifice herself for the village team. She said it herself so let's lynch her.

 

[genny]

I think it would be strange for a protector role to block against kills but not potential vig kills via yellow cards.

It sounds like you're assuming the yellow cards had to be issued one per night, and I don't think the description we received states that.

 

[BigCats]

Opposite. But I actually think I like BigCats plan better now, but I'd be much more comfortable with 4-5 on the lynch

If anyone else would like to volunteer as a sacrifice, they're welcome to. I think 3 + 1-2 people watching should suffice but I'm all for extra paranoia.

 

[mypetmoose]

Okay everyone,

SAR is willing to sacrifice herself for the village team. She said it herself so let's lynch her.

With 5 people? Orrrrr

 

[Coopah]

Okay everyone,

SAR is willing to sacrifice herself for the village team. She said it herself so let's lynch her.

Oh dear...

 

[Lupin21]

It sounds like you're assuming the yellow cards had to be issued one per night, and I don't think the description we received states that.

one was a block, if he issues a second one to the same person, that was his choice for vig is what I interpreted.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Yeah unless the mods are favoring wolves and throwing them a bone after we demolished them two nights in a row- I doubt there would be enough creative mechanics to let them win.

If mods changed mechanics halfway through that's very unfair.

Oh my sweet summer child. You need to play more games. There are many games where a village mislynch turned the entire tide of the game completely

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Okay everyone,

SAR is willing to sacrifice herself for the village team. She said it herself so let's lynch her.

Soooooo. What we've been doing all along

 

[Lupin21]

Oh my sweet summer child. You need to play more games. There are many games where a village mislynch turned the entire tide of the game completely

so where do we look next if you are village? Anything stick out over the last couple hours?

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I wish @PippyPony was playing this game because I think she would have a lot to say about a lot of things 🤣

 

[deleted804295]

Wolf chat after learning they have to sacrifice their wolf protector

Spoiler

 

[PippyPony]

I wish @PippyPony was playing this game because I think she would have a lot to say about a lot of things 🤣

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I'll tell you when you're older.

Run along now nooblets and try not to kill yourselves tripping on a soccer ball 😉
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[mypetmoose]

Wolf chat after learning they have to sacrifice their wolf protector

Spoiler

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More likely that SAR has another ability on the other EON that actually benefits wolves and they will miss that haha

 

[WonderingStudent]

Yeah unless the mods are favoring wolves and throwing them a bone after we demolished them two nights in a row- I doubt there would be enough creative mechanics to let them win.

If mods changed mechanics halfway through that's very unfair.

mods wouldn't change the mechanics of the games when the game has already started. They create a balanced game before it begins and then sees what players do with it. It would be set up prior. The mods would have no idea how villagers or wolves will do (because of course that depends on the players).

 

[Lupin21]

mods wouldn't change the mechanics of the games when the game has already started. They create a balanced game before it begins and then sees what players do with it. It would be set up prior. The mods would have no idea how villagers or wolves will do (because of course that depends on the players).

yup. the players ruin games that sweat and tears were put into all the time.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

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I'll tell you when you're older.

Run along now and try not to kill yourselves tripping on a soccer ball
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She's with us in spirit!

 

[mypetmoose]

Anyone down to do a tally?

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I’m that vein is it a 7pm west coast close or a 6pm?

Edit:7!

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Anyone down to do a tally?

working on it rn

 

[alissa14]

Unlynch SAR lynch Nav - I’d like to put pressure on Nav. My analysis may have cleared him earlier but mel stated he’s good at changing his game play to come across villager if necessary. So basically throw out my analysis lol

edit: sorry zig to throw out a vote in the middle of tallying

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

D4 GOOOOAAAAALLLLLLL Lynch Tally

Killer () -
Lupin () -
SAR (6) - Miz, Navilly, MsP, BC, Sunbodi, Killer
Nav (3) - Wolfie, Mel, Alissa
Wondering (1) - SAR

10/15 Players Voting

Lynch close 7 pm PST/10 pm EST (1 hour)

 

[alissa14]

@Sunbodi just curious about your epic table. Did you keep one in the noob game even though you were dead to follow along? Or is this table a new thing?

 

[PippyPony]

She's with us in spirit!

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More like heckling politely clapping from the stands

Spoiler: Go Teams!

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[BigCats]

Or I guess we could just not do a vanilla core plan and see what happens just sayin’, if SAR goes all vengeful wolf and takes out an actual PR, I tried my best.

 

[mypetmoose]

D4 GOOOOAAAAALLLLLLL Lynch Tally

Killer (1) - MPM
Lupin () -
SAR (6) - Miz, Navilly, MsP, BC, Sunbodi, Killer
Nav (3) - Wolfie, Mel, Alissa
Wondering (1) - SAR

11/15 Players Voting

Lynch close 7 pm PST/10 pm EST (1 hour)

I'm not on killer anymore

 

[mypetmoose]

@Sunbodi just curious about your epic table. Did you keep one in the noob game even though you were dead to follow along? Or is this table a new thing?

Do you think SAR is a wolf? If so, remove your vote from Nav now

 

[deleted804295]

@Sunbodi just curious about your epic table. Did you keep one in the noob game even though you were dead to follow along? Or is this table a new thing?

I keep a table when playing Town of Salem/Mafia.

I rage quit after being lynched D2 in noob game so I didn't make a table. I play better when I have a table.

 

[BigCats]

Unlynch SAR lynch Nav - I’d like to put pressure on Nav. My analysis may have cleared him earlier but mel stated he’s good at changing his game play to come across villager if necessary. So basically throw out my analysis lol

edit: sorry zig to throw out a vote in the middle of tallying

How is that putting pressure on Nav when we’re clearly lynching SAR tonight? Do your pressure lynch tomorrow.

 

[deleted804295]

Alissa is a wolfy woof woof. 😛 CMV

 

[deleted804295]

Shouldn't the wolf chat be policing Alissa right now? Like telling her not to do stupid lynches. Idk, if I were a wolf I wouldn't make any moves without first consolidating with my team.