How does AA rectify the past mistakes when immigrants take up those seats?
Asian Americans make up a third because of their merit, medical schools didn’t give those seats just because they were Asian Americans. The schools did and still do everything possible to keep that number as low as possible. There was no special AA meant for Asian Americans . All other groups are also welcome to raise their game and take up even 80% of the seats. When all the students are in the same college and same classrooms , what exactly prevents black and Hispanic to raise their game? Why not address it? Why no one talks about it? There is a difference of 9 points between Asian Americans and Black and 8 points between Asian Americans and Hispanic on the average matriculants MCAT score . Why can’t we spend our energy in figuring out how to bridge that gap? There is no conversation at all.
We had AA for more than 50 years, right? What did we do to bridge that gap during those 50 years? I am asking the politicians (liberals), universities, schools and most importantly the black and Hispanic families. If the families and the students don’t take up the responsibility, nothing will change. I apologize to be so blunt, because I am frustrated that nobody talks about it and everyone in America seem to think college admissions are some kind of a conspiracy against blacks and Hispanic. You can’t sleep for 21 years when others running and expect to have the same probability of winning the race. You can’t and it is unfair.
About 2 weeks ago, one wonderful black girl had posted a WAMC thread. She came to America from an African country as a teenager and a refuge. She went to community college. She had no home and no family support. She no other connections in the country. Her GPA was kind of low because of some valid reason (3.4 I think) but her MCAT was 523. She had 1000s of research hours and clinical hours and shadowing hours. She had a perfect resume that anyone would envy. I have no clue how she achieved it, I salute her.
If a refuge with so much hardship and without any support. can accomplish so much, what prevents American black and Hispanic to match her? At least make an attempt to match her? We don’t even want to discuss about it. Honestly my belief is that the Affirmative Action was the one preventing the blacks and Hispanic from raising their game. Justice Thomas said the same thing. This black girl didn’t look at average mcat and gpa of black matriculants , she just gave everything that she had got. With the Supreme Court decision, I believe that american blacks and Hispanic will raise up and match Asian Americans and white if the liberal politicians (especially our President) keep their mouths shut and the college admissions committees enforce the decision honestly instead of figuring out surreptitious ways to circumvent it. Then, we can move on as a nation.
I have already seen a few URM applicants asking for suggestions on how to improve their MCAT score and overall app after the Supreme Court decision. Others can/will follow them. We just have to be patient.
I apologize I didn’t mean any offense,
" Asian Americans make up a third because of their merit".
Perhaps so. It's somewhat debatable. The argument can be made that conditions in this country were made suitable for Asian Americans to acheive as some have (RE: model minority myth) due to their facing of less racism, by design. As mentioned, Affirmative Action was designed to be a restorative measure in lieu of reparations. By contrast, Japanese-Americans received reparations by the U.S. government. African-Americans have never received such reparations after 400 years in the U.S.
"...most importantly the black and Hispanic families. If the families and the students don’t take up the responsibility, nothing will change."
It's a complicated and complex issue, but historical events matter.
African-Americans have faced active repression and suppression in this country and have so since the end of slavery. From the terrorism of reconstruction, to Jim Crow apartheid, to the mass incarceration, voter suppression, the Southern Strategy, discrimination in employment, healthcare, education-- these are are active suppression tools. Stats in the U.S. clearly show the are sizable gaps btw African-Americans and other groups in these areas.
The prejudicial idea that African-American families simply don't care or are looking for an unfair shortcut -- this a vicious racist lie invented to stigmatize African-Americans seeking to integrate and stabilize into society with aids such as Affirmative Action.
African-Americans have faced active war on their families for over 400 years, yet we still fill the confidence to make such statement. I will give you that it is based on ignorance. Even so, African-Americans have fought against and and still improved their situation.
Of course, individual behavior and decisions also matter, but the general trends show that these suppression tools have achieve their general intended effect, although yes, you do have outliers of those who are able to achieve despite these racist strategies (although they face more challenges than other racial groups).
"If a refuge with so much hardship and without any support. can accomplish so much, what prevents American black and Hispanic to match her?" See above response.
The rest of your post builds on the above. African-Americans now "raising their game"? To me, this is a sign of the resentment, entitlement even, that other racial groups hold, buying into the lies perpetuated by White Supremacy.
I was reprimanded for suggesting this before, but I honestly believe education on history helps to understand why we are where we are and why so little progress still has been made. I recommend looking up, "model minority myth" and watching the doc, "13th" available on YT for free.
