The 7th Kalvary and The Watchmen

[MoMoGesiologist]

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FYI, racism is not that bad. We do not live in a racist society.

Uggghhh... as (I’m assuming) a middle aged Caucasian man, how well informed do you think your conclusion is? You personally cannot experience it. It would be like you telling me what it’s like to be a gay person or transgender or woman or immigrant... just doesn’t seem authentic or grounded in personal experience. Not saying you may not be right, but it’d be like a math teacher teaching me Spanish.

 

[pgg]

What I said was a general statement about all those who are racists but live in denial.
But since you brought up Blade then why not? If someone makes racist and xenophobic statements all the time, why would it be such a surprise to you that he might simply be a racist and xenophobe?
As for getting old... yes, it's a fact of life my friend!

a) I get younger every year.

b) There's no reason why we can't be polite and respectful to people we disagree with. I sometimes fall short here and let some sarcasm or snarkiness slip through, but there's really nothing to be gained by calling someone racist or xenophobic when they're here arguing in good faith.

 

[Planktonmd]

a) I get younger every year.

b) There's no reason why we can't be polite and respectful to people we disagree with. I sometimes fall short here and let some sarcasm or snarkiness slip through, but there's really nothing to be gained by calling someone racist or xenophobic when they're here arguing in good faith.

I did not call him a racist, I said:" there are racists and xenophobes who live in denial to a point that even a work of fiction makes them uncomfortable".
You can disagree with my opinion, but it shouldn't offend you since it wasn't addressed personally at you or any specific person.
On the other hand I stand by my opinion, I think they are everywhere. These are the educated racists and bigots who know that open racism is not tolerated today, so they hide, and they constantly blame the media and society in general for becoming too politically correct and for suppressing their perceived right to be racists and bigots. They go as far as calling the media "fake news" and imagining conspiracies against good old white boys in TV shows and movies. I am not sure why Blade and others assumed that my statement applied only to him?

 

[pgg]

I did not call him a racist, I said:" there are racists and xenophobes who live in denial to a point that even a work of fiction makes them uncomfortable".
You can disagree with my opinion, but it shouldn't offend you since it wasn't addressed personally at you or any specific person.
On the other hand I stand by my opinion, I think they are everywhere. These are the educated racists and bigots who know that open racism is not tolerated today, so they hide, and they constantly blame the media and society in general for becoming too politically correct and for suppressing their perceived right to be racists and bigots. They go as far as calling the media "fake news" and imagining conspiracies against good old white boys in TV shows and movies. I am not sure why Blade and others assumed that my statement applied only to him?

Oh, come on.

Some racists live in a world of denial to a point that even a work of fiction makes them uncomfortable.

You wrote these words as a reply in a thread started by Blade describing his discomfort with a work of fiction. Of course you intended these words to apply to him. Don't insult all of us by pretending you didn't. Words have meaning.

 

[Planktonmd]

Oh, come on.



You wrote these words as a reply in a thread started by Blade describing his discomfort with a work of fiction. Of course you intended these words to apply to him. Don't insult all of us by pretending you didn't. Words have meaning.

If you feel that my posts have offended certain people or if you feel that they violate SDN rules feel free to take appropriate action.

 

[pgg]

If you feel that my posts have offended certain people or if you feel that they violate SDN rules feel free to take appropriate action.

Appropriate action in this case is simply making a point of it, in-thread. 🙂 Carry on.

 

[Twiggidy]

I thought I was the only one that threw racial bombs into threads.....now @Planktonmd and I are like.....

 

[fakin' the funk]

I started watching the new HBO series "The Watchmen" and I was disappointed the show was so blatantly political. In this version of the USA racist White Americans have banded together using the name the 7th Kalvary. They seek to kill or separate black Americans from the white race. While I openly acknowledge racism exists today circa 2019 I take issue with the degree and the numbers of these hateful white supremacists as shown in the HBO drama.

I did learn about the destruction of Black Tulsa in 1921 which my history classes swept over. But, this isn't 1921 and those of us to the right of center really think the portrayal of the liberal media that all conservatives hate Black Americans is simply false.

I was very disappointed in the HBO drama.

Checked into this thread just to read the original post again. It's so insane.

 

[blockstar]

More disappointed that the show just isnt very good. Great premise...movie was pretty good...show just kinda sucks.

 

[2Fast2Des]

I haven't seen Joker. But I'm sort of finding myself agreeing with you. Does that mean I'm getting old? 🙂




I do think it's a little different today. Maybe I'm just being nostalgic. But the violence in those films had a narrative purpose. There was a moral, or at least some meaning to those stories. I'm not saying all movies need to be art with layers of meaning. Lowbrow entertainment is OK.


I watched the 2nd John Wick movie a couple days ago.

I got kind of bored with the endless (nicely filmed, well choreographed, implausible, subtly impregnated with product placement ads, but most of all endless) fight scenes where a couple dozen guys get murdered by a protagonist the audience supports and cheers on.

I finished that movie thinking, wait, was there someone in that film I was supposed to like or respect, aside from Keanu's dog? I'm not exactly squeamish, certainly not anti-gun, totally OK with the role of violence in art and entertainment, but ... WTF? Keanu Reeves is an irredeemable evil POS in this film, and the film unapologetically, non-ironically, genuinely presents him as the protagonist. I'm not sure when exactly that kind of film making became cool, but it was after the ones you listed.

Well if you kill his dog, steal his car, burn his house down you better bet you're gonna get murdered in a rampage 😛 😛

The Wire needed more Omar. That dude was awesome.

You come at the king you best not miss

Still don't like how they wrote him out, he was the punisher for the wire

 

[blockstar]

I digress this show turned out fantastic. Started slow and made no sense then flipped it on me.

 

[waterhammer]

As a fan of the comic book, I thought it was great!

-The storytelling was structured and layered intricately just like the comic.
-They explored the ideas of vigilantism and justice just like the comic.
-They highlighted an important historical event that was unknown to me.
-The performances by Regina King, Jeremy Irons, and Tim Blake Nelson were really enjoyable.
-Trent Reznor did a nice job with the music, too.

My one critique is that the last episode felt a bit a rushed, but nowhere near as bad as say Game of Thrones.