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[wysdoc]

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How's everything?

Don't let the self-doubt get to you, we have months of interview chances to come!
The final deadline for TMDSAS primary app submission is coming up, 5 pm on October 30.
After that date, the TMDSAS schools will have the full overview of the entire pool of applicants.

Here's the interview invitation action so far.
Did you think there weren't many interviews going out? Remember SDN is a small percent of all applicants.

Dates of interview invitations by school: updated 2/4/2021...

Texas A&M: 6/25, 7/23, 8/10, 8/19, 9/1, 9/18, 9/22, 10/5, 10/19, 10/29, 11/16, 11/19, 12/3, 12/14, 12/17, 1/6, 1/7, 1/12...Last interview day will be 2/5
Texas Tech El Paso: 7/1, 8/18, 8/21, 9/10, 9/24, 10/2, 10/9, 10/16, 10/23, 11/6, 12/11, 12/30, 1/5, 1/18, 1/25, 2/1...Last interview day will be 2/18
Long: 7/3, 8/10, 8/26, 9/2, 9/11, 9/21, 10/13, 11/9, 11/16, 12/21, 1/5, 1/8, 1/29...Last interview day will be 2/5
UTMB: 8/3, 8/7, 9/4, 9/17, 9/18, 9/29, 10/16
UTSW: 8/4, 8/10, 8/18, 8/25,8/31, 9/2, 9/18, 9/29, 10/12, 10/26, 11/4, 12/3...interviews are over and rejections sent out to all not interviewed on 1/29
Texas Tech Lubbock: 8/7, 8/18, 9/2, 9/18, 9/23, 10/5, 10/7, 10/9, 10/21, 10/23, 10/29, 11/5, 11/6, 11/10, 11/24, 11/28, 12/8, 12/9,12/10, 12/16, 12/17, 12/21, 1/5
McGovern: 8/10, 8/17, 8/31, 9/15, 9/16, 9/29, 10/6, 10/7, 10/15, 10/21, 11/2, 11/5, 11/13, 12/9, 12/10, 1/19
Baylor: 8/11, 8/19, 8/25, 9/1, 9/8, 9/15, 9/23, 9/29, 10/7, 10/12, 12/?, 12/16, 12/18, 12/22, 12/30, 12/31, 1/14
U of Houston: 8/21, 9/22, 9/29, 10/14, 11/4, 11/30, 12/1, 1/4, 1/12, 1/26, 1/27, 2/4
Dell: 8/6, 8/31, 9/4, 9/24, 9/28, 10/6, 11/4, 11/5, 11/24, 1/8, 1/11, 1/20, 1/25
UTRGV: (8/26, 9/1 EDP), 10/9, 10/10, 10/15, 10/19, 10/21, 11/2, 11/11, 11/12, 11/17, 11/25, 12/3, 1/14, 1/15
TCU/UNTHSC: 9/16, 9/21, 9/22, 9/23, 10/22, 11/2, 12/2, 12/16, 12/30, 1/8, 1/12, 2/4

DO schools
TCOM: 8/5, 8/12, 9/16, 9/30, 10/5, 10/12, 10/14, 10/16, 11/15, 11/16, 11/24, 11/29, 12/3, 12/10, 1/5, 1/19
UIWSOM: 8/10, 8/19, 8/20, 9/11, 10/7, 10/31, 11/30, 12/15, 1/28
SHSU: 9/21, 10/2, 11/11, 12/17, 1/29

 

[Deltasidearm]

Dates of interview invitations by school:

Texas A&M: 6/25, 7/23, 8/19, 9/1, 9/18, 9/22, 10/5, 10/19

For whatever it's worth to others, A&M also sent out interview invitations on 08/10 (that is when I received my own).

 

[Argil]

Last week McGovern sent IIs for 4-6 dates in November. I’ve one scheduled.

 

[jayzmvp]

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How's everything?

Don't let the self-doubt get to you, we have months of interview chances to come!
The final deadline for TMDSAS primary app submission is coming up, 5 pm on October 30.
After that date, the TMDSAS schools will have the full overview of the entire pool of applicants.

Here's the interview invitation action so far.
Did you think there weren't many interviews going out? Remember SDN is a small percent of all applicants.

Dates of interview invitations by school:

Texas A&M: 6/25, 7/23, 8/10, 8/19, 9/1, 9/18, 9/22, 10/5, 10/19
Texas Tech El Paso: 7/1, 8/18, 8/21, 9/10, 9/24, 10/2, 10/9, 10/16
Long: 7/3, 8/10, 8/26, 9/2, 9/11, 9/21, 10/13
UTMB: 8/3, 8/7, 9/4, 9/17, 9/18, 9/29, 10/16
UTSW: 8/4, 8/10, 8/18, 8/25,8/31, 9/2, 9/18, 9/29, 10/12
Texas Tech Lubbock: 8/7, 8/18, 9/2, 9/18, 9/23, 10/5, 10/7, 10/9, 10/21
McGovern: 8/10, 8/17, 8/31, 9/15, 9/16, 9/29, 10/6, 10/7, 10/15, 10/21
Baylor: 8/11, 8/19, 8/25, 9/1, 9/8, 9/15, 9/23, 9/29, 10/7, 10/12
U of Houston: 8/21, 9/22, 9/29, 10/14
Dell: 8/6, 8/31, 9/4, 9/24, 9/28, 10/6
UTRGV: (8/26, 9/1 EDP), 10/9, 10/10, 10/15, 10/19
TCU/UNTHSC: 9/16, 9/21, 9/22, 9/23

DO schools
TCOM: 8/5, 8/12, 9/16, 9/30, 10/5, 10/12, 10/14
UIWSOM: 8/10, 8/19, 8/20, 9/11, 10/7
SHSU: 9/21, 10/2

Omg this II tracker is incredibly awesome thank you!!! Have you done this in previous years? I looked at the 2019-2020 thread and couldn't find it o:

 

[wysdoc]

Omg this II tracker is incredibly awesome thank you!!! Have you done this in previous years? I looked at the 2019-2020 thread and couldn't find it o:

No, I haven't done this before but thought it might show people that there are interviews happening everywhere, and that the patterns of schools differ. Some schools send them out every 2 weeks, some once a month, etc. The schools with smaller class sizes are going to interview fewer people.

You might not realize that Texas applicants often get several interviews. This is not as true for AMCAS applicants.
Appreciate and show interest in each chance you get to talk to a school directly!

 

[PharmDF]

Just figured I would post a general overview of my cycle so far in here to help give some perspective to future readers:
LM: 73 (I’m also a reapplicant and improved my MCAT score by 12 points from the last time I took it).
Complete Date at Schools: July 16-20th
Pre-Match Offers: Tech Lubbock & Tech El Paso
Interviewed At & Waiting for a Decision: UTSW & UTMB
Upcoming Interviews: McGovern (10/23) & Long (10/30)
App Submitted & No II: Dell, UTRGV, TCOM, & TAMU
Didn’t Apply: UH & SHSU

Great improvement from last year, and very impressive this year!

 

[wysdoc]

News update:
Since my post on October 15 about the first pre-match offers, I have seen:

10/16: UTSW sent out their first pre-match offers

10/16 to 10/23: A few more offers from Texas Tech El Paso, A&M, TCOM, and UIWSOM.

10/23: TCU/UNTHSC made an offer to an SDN member

Remember, y'all, I only post what I can see on SDN when you share your news. I have no direct pipeline to any admissions offices.
So, share your news to help out your fellow applicants!

FINAL deadline for TMDSAS primary submissions is 10/30, so at that point the schools will have their overview of everyone.
AMCAS school final deadlines vary.

Wysdoc

 

[futuredoctoro21]

News update:
Since my post on October 15 about the first pre-match offers, I have seen:

10/16: UTSW sent out their first pre-match offers

10/16 to 10/23: A few more offers from Texas Tech El Paso, A&M, TCOM, and UIWSOM.

10/23: TCU/UNTHSC made an offer to an SDN member

Remember, y'all, I only post what I can see on SDN when you share your news. I have no direct pipeline to any admissions offices.
So, share your news to help out your fellow applicants!

FINAL deadline for TMDSAS primary submissions is 10/30, so at that point the schools will have their overview of everyone.
AMCAS school final deadlines vary.

Wysdoc

Thank you so much for doing this, it's extremely helpful 🙂

 

[harmony14]

Got email from tmdsas requesting transcript around 11:40

 

[Derz]

Does anyone have any idea when Dell sends their first wave of acceptances? I heard it's typically around a week after the traditional Oct. 15 date, but I'm sure there's some significant differences in this cycle.

 

[Hzreio]

We only need to send transcripts to tmdsas right? We don’t need to send transcripts to the school or anything?

 

[wysdoc]

We only need to send transcripts to tmdsas right? We don’t need to send transcripts to the school or anything?

That's right. TMDSAS will distribute transcripts as needed for now.

Next spring when you make a final commitment to one school, they will usually ask you to send an official final transcript ( and maybe verification of degree or graduation) directly to the committed school.

 

[NPComplete]

Does anyone have any idea when Dell sends their first wave of acceptances? I heard it's typically around a week after the traditional Oct. 15 date, but I'm sure there's some significant differences in this cycle.

From my understanding, they are not a prematch-heavy school. Additionally, they have a limited class size of 50. I'd imagine that they don't send much more than 100 or so acceptances out.

Some people I met did prematch early on, but majority found out on Match Day or much later in the prematch period. I'd imagine they'd trickle out a handful of acceptances next month, but they're pretty wary of keeping spots open for later interviews. They stressed interviewing everyone as candidates for admission, not the waitlist.

 

[acr12345]

Does anyone know how to know if you should resend your transcripts to TMDSAS? I sent them on Oct 18th but they still have not received them as per the portal.

 

[wysdoc]

Does anyone know how to know if you should resend your transcripts to TMDSAS? I sent them on Oct 18th but they still have not received them as per the portal.

They have some work to do with your transcript once they get it, so I would wait a bit. Also final day for primaries is October 30 and they will soon be done with that task.

 

[harmony14]

My college does not use one of the 3 main transcript services that TMDSAS mentions. Will TMDSAS still accept the transcript?

 

[Drsecondchance]

My college does not use one of the 3 main transcript services that TMDSAS mentions. Will TMDSAS still accept the transcript?

You can have it sent snail mail no problem.

 

[harmony14]

You can have it sent snail mail no problem.

Damn. I sent it electronically tho. the transcript service included TMDSAS as an application system recipient so idk?

 

[sp021]

Got email from tmdsas requesting transcript around 11:40

I prematched but didn't receive the transcript email. Anyone else not get it?

 

[prelaib]

I prematched but didn't receive the transcript email. Anyone else not get it?

+1. I’m pretty sure A&M hasn’t input the prematches yet, if that’s where you prematched.

 

[harmony14]

+1. I’m pretty sure A&M hasn’t input the prematches yet, if that’s where you prematched.

I prematched to tamu and they inputted it yesterday. That’s when I received the transcript request.

 

[prelaib]

I prematched to tamu and they inputted it yesterday. That’s when I received the transcript request.

Oh weird. Mine hasn’t come through yet.

 

[Drsecondchance]

Congrats to all those prematching at UTMB. I'm disappointed I'm not among you and trying to remind myself the game isn't over.

 

[harmony14]

Congrats to all those prematching at UTMB. I'm disappointed I'm not among you and trying to remind myself the game isn't over.

+1 on the disappointment

 

[wysdoc]

+1 on the disappointment

They just sent out their first offers 2 hours ago, y'all, hang on 🙂

 

[wysdoc]

News update:

Since my post on October 25 about the first pre-match offers, I have seen:

10/28/2020 Dell sent out the first acceptance to an SDN member

10/30/2020 UTMB sent out a few pre-match offers at about 4:30 pm

10/25-11/1 UIWSOM, UTSW, Texas Tech Lubbock sent out some more interview invitations

Dell sent out a few more secondaries & interview invitations (remember it only sends secondaries to a fraction of applicants).

We have NOT yet seen any admission offers from:

University of Houston
Long
UTRGV
SHSU
Baylor

That's all I have for today. You've done your part, don't let the waiting get you down.
Wysdoc

(edited to show the first acceptance offer from Dell)

 

[Chitaku]

News update:

Since my post on October 25 about the first pre-match offers, I have seen:

10/30/2020 UTMB sent out a few pre-match offers at about 4:30 pm

10/25-11/1 UIWSOM, UTSW, Texas Tech Lubbock sent out some more interview invitations

Dell sent out a few secondaries (remember it only sends secondaries to a fraction of applicants) but no acceptances yet.

We have NOT yet seen any admission offers from:

University of Houston
Dell
Long
UTRGV
SHSU
Baylor

That's all I have for today. You've done your part, don't let the waiting get you down.
Wysdoc

Thank you for these updates!! I'll just add that one user reported an acceptance on the Dell thread a few days ago.

 

[deleted880375]

Oh weird. Mine hasn’t come through yet.

+1

 

[wysdoc]

Thank you for these updates!! I'll just add that one user reported an acceptance on the Dell thread a few days ago.

Thanks @Chitaku , I missed that in the string of posts on calls about interview invitations. I will update my update post!

 

[acr12345]

Has anyones transcripts been processed by TMDSAS?

 

[rfam77]

Has anyones transcripts been processed by TMDSAS?

mine were processed this morning and I ordered them to be sent yesterday morning

 

[sdc52]

Just checking, we aren’t supposed to send transcripts until TMDSAS asks for them right?

 

[wysdoc]

Just checking, we aren’t supposed to send transcripts until TMDSAS asks for them right?

Right, after you have been offered an acceptance TMDSAS will ask you to send one to them.
Later when you have made your final commitment to a school, they will want one sent directly to them as well as proof of graduation ‍ ‍

 

[txgal66]

I completed my secondaries to most TX schools in late August/early September. I’m feeling pretty discouraged as we get closer to thanksgiving and I have no IIs, but I’m trying to hold my head up. But I have a question for y’all- I graduate in December (I’ll have a BS in molecular bio) and I don’t know what to do in the meantime. I am currently working as a COVID screener at a clinic, but I feel like I have the capacity to do so much more! I have no certificate to be an MA or EMT, and I’m not sure if it would be worth it to go through a long training like that. If I have to take a gap year, what jobs do y’all recommend? How are ways I can improve my application?

 

[Belphegor]

I completed my secondaries to most TX schools in late August/early September. I’m feeling pretty discouraged as we get closer to thanksgiving and I have no IIs, but I’m trying to hold my head up. But I have a question for y’all- I graduate in December (I’ll have a BS in molecular bio) and I don’t know what to do in the meantime. I am currently working as a COVID screener at a clinic, but I feel like I have the capacity to do so much more! I have no certificate to be an MA or EMT, and I’m not sure if it would be worth it to go through a long training like that. If I have to take a gap year, what jobs do y’all recommend? How are ways I can improve my application?

Scribing is something that doesn’t take long to get into and is universally loved amongst adcoms.

However, I know some hospitals, including the one I previously worked at, suspended the scribe program because of COVID.

Do you have any other clinical experiences?

Hope you hear back from some schools soon!

 

[txgal66]

Scribing is something that doesn’t take long to get into and is universally loved amongst adcoms.

However, I know some hospitals, including the one I previously worked at, suspended the scribe program because of COVID.

Do you have any other clinical experiences?

Hope you hear back from some schools soon!

The only clinical experiences I have are volunteering in an endoscopy unit for a year and the job I currently have as a screener. I applied to a couple scribing companies back in the summer, but they also suspended their scribing positions in the hospitals near me :/ and thank you! I'm just hoping for one interview at this point haha

 

[jayzmvp]

Anyone else not receive a request to submit transcripts to TMDSAS despite pre-matching on 10/15?

 

[Deltasidearm]

The only clinical experiences I have are volunteering in an endoscopy unit for a year and the job I currently have as a screener. I applied to a couple scribing companies back in the summer, but they also suspended their scribing positions in the hospitals near me :/ and thank you! I'm just hoping for one interview at this point haha

Try to use any gap time to improve your application's weakest points and/or yourself. Also, remember that a gap year job does not have to be directly related to medicine if you would prefer to explore something else. In my gap year, I chose to pursue a full time research job, even though my application certainly had no need for additional research, because I wanted to learn, be productive, and enjoy doing research.

If clinical experience is what you're after then I would highly suggest looking into PCA/PCT/Unit Technician jobs at a hospital. They typically have a low barrier to entry and the direct patient care experience is very difficult to beat (it's not always a glamorous job but neither is medicine).

 

[galbijjim]

I am getting demoralized as I sit here without any II going into November. With 2000 research, 500 clinical, and 160 nonclinical hours, should I try and amp up my nonclinical involvement? I am planning on working part time as a tutor and doing community service, but wouldn't mind working full time perhaps in a research position. With a full time research job, my nonclinical hours would suffer of course. Is there a right answer lol

 

[wysdoc]

I am getting demoralized as I sit here without any II going into November. With 2000 research, 500 clinical, and 160 nonclinical hours, should I try and amp up my nonclinical involvement? I am planning on working part time as a tutor and doing community service, but wouldn't mind working full time perhaps in a research position. With a full time research job, my nonclinical hours would suffer of course. Is there a right answer lol

Hang on there are still 3 more months to interview

 

[Chitaku]

Anyone else not receive a request to submit transcripts to TMDSAS despite pre-matching on 10/15?

I have not received the request either! I'm sure they'll get to us soon lol.

 

[wysdoc]

News update for week of 11/1 to 11/8:

Since my post on November 1, there has been some Texas action!

Texas Tech El Paso, UTSW, Texas Tech Lubbock, McGovern, U of Houston, Dell, UTRGV, and TCU/UNTHSC have all sent out more Interview Invitations.

Dell doled out a few more secondaries, and 1 admission offer 11/3

11/4 and 11/5 Long SOM offered a few pre-match offers, IS and OOS, but reaffirmed that almost all IS offers this year will again go through the Match in March.

11/4 and 11/5 Texas A&M made some offers of admission to MD and EnMed

11/6 UTMB made more prematch offers

That's what's up this week. Remember I only post what you guys share on SDN, so share your news!

Wysdoc

 

[harmony14]

Anyone with a scholarship offer from long or A&M

 

[mddoc]

Just wondering since I'm not sure, is ob/gyn specialty considered primary care?

 

[wysdoc]

Just wondering since I'm not sure, is ob/gyn specialty considered primary care?

I believe most list primary care as FM/IM, pediatrics, and OB/GYN

 

[texasplease]

I believe most list primary care as FM/IM, pediatrics, and OB/GYN

I have also seen Psych lumped into primary care, maybe because there is a shortage

 

[Benevolent_Cauliflower]

I'm writing this post to see who else is in my similar situation. I am a very white caucasion male student from Texas. Very traditional student. Majoring in the typical Biology/Chemistry pre-med tract. I have a 3.9 gpa and scored a 510 on MCAT. I have numerous extracurricular activities in the medical field and other volunteer experience. I am however lacking research experience. Had things lined up this past spring and summer which were canceled due to covid. My MCAT section scores were all about the same. I did score under what I was doing on my practice tests. I guess I just had a bad test day. My MCAT was rescheduled 3 times. When my test was rescheduled, I just kept studying for the MCAT and did not complete my TMDSAS until after I took my MCAT, mistake number 1. Next, TMDSAS was 7 weeks behind on my initial application. I completed my secondaries as soon as I could and was complete around 8/20-8/26. I applied to just in state schools excluding Baylor. I didn't think I would get an interview invite based on my MCAT. I am blessed to have had one interview so far that went great and another coming Dec 9th. I really hoping for a few more interview invites and hopefully increase my chances on matching somewhere. I have a very unhealthy obsession on checking my spam folder. I have heard others on this forum still waiting on interview invites. I know many schools are planning on extending interviews into Feb. Question: What percentage of students have the medical schools have already interviewed? Do u think the schools have interviewed about 75% of potential candidates and have about 25% left to interview?

 

[wysdoc]

I'm writing this post to see who else is in my similar situation. I am a very white caucasion male student from Texas. Very traditional student. Majoring in the typical Biology/Chemistry pre-med tract. I have a 3.9 gpa and scored a 510 on MCAT. I have numerous extracurricular activities in the medical field and other volunteer experience. I am however lacking research experience. Had things lined up this past spring and summer which were canceled due to covid. My MCAT section scores were all about the same. I did score under what I was doing on my practice tests. I guess I just had a bad test day. My MCAT was rescheduled 3 times. When my test was rescheduled, I just kept studying for the MCAT and did not complete my TMDSAS until after I took my MCAT, mistake number 1. Next, TMDSAS was 7 weeks behind on my initial application. I completed my secondaries as soon as I could and was complete around 8/20-8/26. I applied to just in state schools excluding Baylor. I didn't think I would get an interview invite based on my MCAT. I am blessed to have had one interview so far that went great and another coming Dec 9th. I really hoping for a few more interview invites and hopefully increase my chances on matching somewhere. I have a very unhealthy obsession on checking my spam folder. I have heard others on this forum still waiting on interview invites. I know many schools are planning on extending interviews into Feb. Question: What percentage of students have the medical schools have already interviewed? Do u think the schools have interviewed about 75% of potential candidates and have about 25% left to interview?

Your application was not late in this year's pandemic landscape. 2 interviews by now is great, and you may get more by the end of January which is when most TMDSAS schools will wrap up their interviews. Baylor usually has at least 1 interview date past TMDSAS Match Day, and TCU/UNTHSC will be probably be interviewing past February as well. Despite the super high averages seen on MSAR, 510 is competetive for TX applicants. So yeah, check your email & spam folders (and all the tabs on Gmail if you use that) daily, check application portals once or twice a week, and know that you have done your part!

 

[wysdoc]

News update for the period 11/9 to 11/22:

Texas A&M, Long, Texas Tech Lubbock, McGovern, UTRGV, TCOM, and SHSU have sent out more interview invitations.

Dell sent out a couple of emails to complete the secondary (yeah, they slowly screen for this)

Offers of admission have been made by:
UTSW -a bunch
UTRGV
UTMB
Texas Tech Lubbock
UIWSOM
SHSU
Texas A&M
TCU/UNTHSC
Long - a bunch

That's it for now.
Share your news, be kind, and don't eat Thanksgiving dinner with a passel of strangers!

Wysdoc

 

[harmony14]

News update for the period 11/9 to 11/22:

Offers of admission have been made by:
UTSW -a bunch
UTRGV
UTMB
Texas Tech Lubbock
UIWSOM
SHSU
Texas A&M
TCU/UNTHSC
Long - a bunch

Adding “ a bunch” for utsw hurt me in ways I didn’t expect lol