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[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

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What's wigging me out is that with this wolf pack, it's hard to form a pack and to process of elimination people based on flips. If Ace flips village or wolf, it doesn't necessarily discount that Lainey is village or wolf and visa versa. The pack is clearly floundering without genny to help them, which makes the hunt both easier and more difficult?
These are also pre-coffee ramblings so if none of that made sense, I can come back and clarify post caffeine

 

[supershorty]

I just really don't know how to account for MsP at the moment because I don't understand why she wasn't modkilled after D1 since she didn't post AT ALL. It makes me wonder about what sunshine said, even though I'm skeptical.

 

[LaineyLou]

I just really don't know how to account for MsP at the moment because I don't understand why she wasn't modkilled after D1 since she didn't post AT ALL. It makes me wonder about what sunshine said, even though I'm skeptical.

Would a mod avoid killing a wolf?

 

[supershorty]

Would a mod avoid killing a wolf?

You tell me. What do you think, Lainey?

I'm going to press you hard today because I'm not buying the noob act anymore. Do you have any response to my ISO of you?

 

[alleycat03]

I just really don't know how to account for MsP at the moment because I don't understand why she wasn't modkilled after D1 since she didn't post AT ALL. It makes me wonder about what sunshine said, even though I'm skeptical.

Everyone gets 1 warning. So her day 1 was her warning, and then she had the 10 post minimum for day 2. If she doesn't meet minimum again, then she will be modkilled.

 

[LaineyLou]

You tell me. What do you think, Lainey?

I'm going to press you hard today because I'm not buying the noob act anymore. Do you have any response to my ISO of you?

I think it would be interesting because the mod knows if they are wolf or not and it may make the game much shorter if they just killed off one of the pack. I think it’s a tad suspicious just because they were barely there yesterday until the very last minute. Also I have to reread all you wrote. I’ll respond in a minute, just woke up (I work night shifts I’m not that lazy)

 

[LaineyLou]

You tell me. What do you think, Lainey?

I'm going to press you hard today because I'm not buying the noob act anymore. Do you have any response to my ISO of you?

Holy cow that was quite the write up. So I’ve come to conclude that asking you guys questions is considered sketchy so in the future I’ll ask the mod by pm. I can try to act less nooby so I look less suspicious. As for my agree/disagree statements that was just me trying to remain active and didn’t realize that would make people think I’m wolfy. I was trying to put everything into my spreadsheet so I could do my write ups later. As for the “defending” it did seem odd to me. Which made me question motive. So I made that apparent, and while some don’t see that as a reason, I did so I stated it (y’all would rather I give something than a “gut feeling”). That was my logic and I went with it. I hope that answers some of the questions. If you have additional feel free to ask!

 

[supershorty]

Holy cow that was quite the write up. So I’ve come to conclude that asking you guys questions is considered sketchy so in the future I’ll ask the mod by pm. I can try to act less nooby so I look less suspicious. As for my agree/disagree statements that was just me trying to remain active and didn’t realize that would make people think I’m wolfy. I was trying to put everything into my spreadsheet so I could do my write ups later. As for the “defending” it did seem odd to me. Which made me question motive. So I made that apparent, and while some don’t see that as a reason, I did so I stated it (y’all would rather I give something than a “gut feeling”). That was my logic and I went with it. I hope that answers some of the questions. If you have additional feel free to ask!

Who are your current wolf reads and why?

Who are your current village reads and why?

 

[kaydubs]

I just really don't know how to account for MsP at the moment because I don't understand why she wasn't modkilled after D1 since she didn't post AT ALL.

I think it would be interesting because the mod knows if they are wolf or not and it may make the game much shorter if they just killed off one of the pack.

Hi, friendly neighborhood mod here!

MsP got her warning for not posting day 1 and would’ve been removed had she not met participation requirements day 2. As you saw, it was close. But she did hit 10 posts in the amount of time that she appeared. If she doesn’t show up this cycle, she will be removed.

I won’t let certain affiliations skate by.

As stated in the rules, lowposters will be warned once followed with a removal if they fail again.

SO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS

 

[Aprilthearab]

Hi, friendly neighborhood mod here!

MsP got her warning for not posting day 1 and would’ve been removed had she not met participation requirements day 2. As you saw, it was close. But she did hit 10 posts in the amount of time that she appeared. If she doesn’t show up this cycle, she will be removed.

I won’t let certain affiliations skate by.

As stated in the rules, lowposters will be warned once followed with a removal if they fail again.

SO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS

I think the confusion is just because DrRoRo was removed in the middle of a cycle after a warning whereas MsP was not

 

[LaineyLou]

Okay yall heres what ive got....

village read
-sunshine: nothing they have said strikes me as odd. Originally I thought it was strange that they were "defending" genny and genny turned out to be a wolf. But then realizing she voted for genny that wouldnt make much sense to yeet your fellow packmate. Unless this was some sort of wild sacrifice I just dont see that likely.
-shorty: doesnt seem very wolfy at all. Yes they are really on me but i think theyre just exploring all potential options for wolves. I see this as good hunting.
-Visc: has not been super prominent yesterday until near end. I feel theyd want to be much more involved if they were a wolf to try to make themselves seem village like. Originally there was some over explaining that seemed odd but I havent seen anything that super strikes me since.



??? (not sure, i have reasons for them to be wolfy or village and just cant decide)
-msP: the fact they were gone almost all yesterday seems really odd and i dont have a very good read because i havent seen much of them
-Vet schools: i feel i dont have a good read at all on them. I did take note of the last minute move from sloth to ace
-Kras: again i feel i dont have a super good read on them either. But definitely nothing has struck me as suspicious

wolfy
-dina: stated she doesnt feel the april vote and feels am is neutral. it would make sense that she knew AM was neutral if she were a wolf and in a pack with april.
-cray: stated that they were the first person to call out genny for being wolfy however when i looked back crays first reads post didnt include genny at all. hmmmmm? they unvoted alley and voted sloth last minute (not sure the relevance on this unless alley is wolf and they were trying to hide their unyeet of alley (pot wolf) within the end of the day
-April: stated they think that ace is really nooby and that the rest of the pack would have told him to stay quiet and say something that made more sense. they also brought up the thought that ace could be bait but that wouldnt be too smart considering they already lost one of the pack.
-ace: last nights post were very sketchy and idk if they were nooby or just slip ups
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[Aprilthearab]

-April: stated they think that ace is really nooby and that the rest of the pack would have told him to stay quiet and say something that made more sense. they also brought up the thought that ace could be bait but that wouldnt be too smart considering they already lost one of the pack.

I'm not 100% sure what about this is inherently wolfy besides my minor defense of Ace, but I think it is a rather logical argument and would like to know why you disagree.

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

has not been super prominent yesterday until near end. I feel theyd want to be much more involved if they were a wolf to try to make themselves seem village like

this is gonna get very WIFOM very fast, careful. most people sus inactivity but you're thinking it's more village? I'm curious as for why? Like you said that you think that they would be on more trying to make themselves look more village, but im curious as to what you think of the other side of the coin (some people say inactivity is trying to just hide and fly under the radar)

Vet schools: i feel i dont have a good read at all on them. I did take note of the last minute move from sloth to ace
-Kras: again i feel i dont have a super good read on them either. But definitely nothing has struck me as suspicious

it's perfectly fine to have someone in neutrals for going what in heck are you but im curious, do you have individual posts swinging kras and/or me one way or the other??
I ask bc when i have someone in my neutrals 4 real life days into the game, it's often bc their posts have swung me wolfy AND village and I'm not sure which outweighs which.

April: stated they think that ace is really nooby and that the rest of the pack would have told him to stay quiet and say something that made more sense. they also brought up the thought that ace could be bait but that wouldnt be too smart considering they already lost one of the pack.

I'm not sure why this would make her wolfy
also can you see april/ace in a pack together? (asking bc both in your wolf reads, and im wondering if its either/or)

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

April me bc i was taking too long to type🙁 need more coffee

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I just really don't know how to account for MsP at the moment because I don't understand why she wasn't modkilled after D1 since she didn't post AT ALL. It makes me wonder about what sunshine said, even though I'm skeptical.

I was warned D1 and I met the minimum on D2

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

I was warned D1 and I met the minimum on D2

I think the confusion is just because DrRoRo was removed in the middle of a cycle after a warning whereas MsP was not

this b why people questioning it. when drroro was removed, both of you guys had the same activity level (I think drroro asked to leave)

 

[Aprilthearab]

-Visc: has not been super prominent yesterday until near end. I feel theyd want to be much more involved if they were a wolf to try to make themselves seem village like. Originally there was some over explaining that seemed odd but I havent seen anything that super strikes me since.

-msP: the fact they were gone almost all yesterday seems really odd and i dont have a very good read because i havent seen much of them

Confused why inactivity until the end is villagey for one and wolfy for another?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Spoiler: me waiting for people to come play WW so i can keep ignoring my schoolwork

also idk what this Barbara Streisand gif is but i like it
also here's me procrastinating making more coffee (making tim make me more coffee) so i can shake until i decide to eat lunch

 

[LaineyLou]

Confused why inactivity until the end is villagey for one and wolfy for another?

No, one is ???

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

No, one is ???

but theres still a difference, what is it?

 

[Aprilthearab]

No, one is ???

I'm just saying for vis you said that was the reason you were reading them village but for msp you said it was "really odd"

 

[LaineyLou]

this is gonna get very WIFOM very fast, careful. most people sus inactivity but you're thinking it's more village? I'm curious as for why? Like you said that you think that they would be on more trying to make themselves look more village, but im curious as to what you think of the other side of the coin (some people say inactivity is trying to just hide and fly under the radar)

it's perfectly fine to have someone in neutrals for going what in heck are you but im curious, do you have individual posts swinging kras and/or me one way or the other??
I ask bc when i have someone in my neutrals 4 real life days into the game, it's often bc their posts have swung me wolfy AND village and I'm not sure which outweighs which.

I'm not sure why this would make her wolfy
also can you see april/ace in a pack together? (asking bc both in your wolf reads, and im wondering if its either/or)

Yeah I could see them in a pack together. I feel they’d be okay without genny because they’d have a noob and a more experienced player, +/- one more wolf possiblh

 

[LaineyLou]

I'm just saying for vis you said that was the reason you were reading them village but for msp you said it was "really odd"

I don’t have enough on msp to say for sure one way or another.

 

[LaineyLou]

but theres still a difference, what is it?

I don’t have enough on msp

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Yeah I could see them in a pack together. I feel they’d be okay without genny because they’d have a noob and a more experienced player, +/- one more wolf possiblh

I mean i don't think it's IMPOSSIBLE but i also don't think it's likely. granted, april has remained in my neutral (leaning village but only due to i don't learn and nice!April bias bc i like her a lot) and ace has been in my wolf reads for a hot minute now
but i think that if they were in a pack together, ace wouldnt be messing up and saying wolfy stuff so often on the thread bc i feel like he'd be more likely to listen to april

 

[Aprilthearab]

I don’t have enough on msp to say for sure one way or another.

So then what do you have on vis that makes you lean village, if not the inactivity thing?

 

[supershorty]

Yeah I could see them in a pack together. I feel they’d be okay without genny because they’d have a noob and a more experienced player, +/- one more wolf possiblh

Given April and Ace's interactions, how do you interpret Ace tunneling her so hard on the first day if they are wolfing together?

 

[Aprilthearab]

i feel like he'd be more likely to listen to april

LMAO this made me LOL at work. He listens to anyone BUT me if you haven't noticed.

But I agree, if Ace and I were packmates, it would make zero sense for him to stay on my yeet vote on D1 when I was a hair away from dying.

 

[kaydubs]

I think the confusion is just because DrRoRo was removed in the middle of a cycle after a warning whereas MsP was not

If people are asking to be removed, they can be removed at any point in time.

 

[kaydubs]

Spoiler: Mod comment: subs vs. mod-kills

I think maybe some players misunderstood or missed it but I generally find subs to be more distracting than mod-kills. If there are subs, I consider their usage but I truly find that to be more distracting. I understand things happen in life but I have run into situations as a mod where the same player(s) are always asking for a sub. I find it frustrating for the same people to sign up and be like “peace, I’m outtt”

Feel free to weigh in on subs vs mod-kills in the sign-up thread, just wanted to address this.

 

[Acehunter123]

Hello everyone, I am done with classes and can now spend some time answering questions and commenting. I will try to address many of the comments I have been scouring over, so if you have any direct questions I will be more than happy to address them too?

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

Hello everyone, I am done with classes and can now spend some time answering questions and commenting. I will try to address many of the comments I have been scouring over, so if you have any direct questions I will be more than happy to address them too?

what quotes specifically strike you as damning and wolfy for your wolf reads?

 

[Aprilthearab]

Hello everyone, I am done with classes and can now spend some time answering questions and commenting. I will try to address many of the comments I have been scouring over, so if you have any direct questions I will be more than happy to address them too?

I'd appreciate seeing a village/neutral/wolf list with explanations if possible

 

[Acehunter123]

To clarify the noob posts made earlier and throughout this game. I am still trying to get a handle on how to play this game, many of you have experience playing a lot of games previously so you know what you like to do and what you like to look for. I have minimal experience, outside of playing a version of this at summer camp a few times. The games I have played in were not as involved or complicated due to the short nature they are meant to be played in so it is a bit overwhelming to adjust to over a few days and I am trying to learn as quickly as I can to try and keep up. I can try my hand at evaluating and reading everyone currently at this moment, however, it may take me a little bit of time as I am trying to do them in a similar manner to what you guys normally do which is not normal for me. I will try and post them one by one to avoid a huge essay like the ones I've seen over the last few days and to also allow for more time to answer questions that come up.

 

[Acehunter123]

what quotes specifically strike you as damning and wolfy for your wolf reads?

I'd appreciate seeing a village/neutral/wolf list with explanations if possible

I am working on a list currently

 

[vetschoolsletmeinplease]

playing a version of this at summer camp a few times

that's such a fun camp idea *storing for future counselor ideas*

 

[Dinashadow]

**HERE Dina says she knows how Ms. P plays as a wolf

**YET, HERE Dina says she doesn't know Ms. P as a wolf (the "heck if I know" was replying to Ms. P. saying has she ever NK AM on night 1 as a wolf)

**But again, HERE Dina says she knows how Ms. P plays as a wolf

I don't keep track of who people kill as wolves

This is based off how she's acting, which she's acting 100% like I mentioned on D1 and D2.

 

[Dinashadow]

Okay yall heres what ive got....

village read
-sunshine: nothing they have said strikes me as odd. Originally I thought it was strange that they were "defending" genny and genny turned out to be a wolf. But then realizing she voted for genny that wouldnt make much sense to yeet your fellow packmate. Unless this was some sort of wild sacrifice I just dont see that likely.
-shorty: doesnt seem very wolfy at all. Yes they are really on me but i think theyre just exploring all potential options for wolves. I see this as good hunting.
-Visc: has not been super prominent yesterday until near end. I feel theyd want to be much more involved if they were a wolf to try to make themselves seem village like. Originally there was some over explaining that seemed odd but I havent seen anything that super strikes me since.



??? (not sure, i have reasons for them to be wolfy or village and just cant decide)
-msP: the fact they were gone almost all yesterday seems really odd and i dont have a very good read because i havent seen much of them
-Vet schools: i feel i dont have a good read at all on them. I did take note of the last minute move from sloth to ace
-Kras: again i feel i dont have a super good read on them either. But definitely nothing has struck me as suspicious

wolfy
-dina: stated she doesnt feel the april vote and feels am is neutral. it would make sense that she knew AM was neutral if she were a wolf and in a pack with april.
-cray: stated that they were the first person to call out genny for being wolfy however when i looked back crays first reads post didnt include genny at all. hmmmmm? they unvoted alley and voted sloth last minute (not sure the relevance on this unless alley is wolf and they were trying to hide their unyeet of alley (pot wolf) within the end of the day
-April: stated they think that ace is really nooby and that the rest of the pack would have told him to stay quiet and say something that made more sense. they also brought up the thought that ace could be bait but that wouldnt be too smart considering they already lost one of the pack.
-ace: last nights post were very sketchy and idk if they were nooby or just slip ups
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What about alley?

Also when did I say AM was neutral? I clearly put her in my village reads D1. Also are you saying I voted for april, but I'm in a pack with her? I'm not following

 

[Dinashadow]

Yeah outside of that super weird vote situation, her posts/contributions/presence has seemed village. The "stalling" was a weird word choice, but maybe just maybe she meant that she thought the wolves were content with the yeet? I don't know. I actually do want @Dinashadow to explain that specific wording, even if she feels she already explained the vote switch.

yeah I guess it wasn't the best word choice. It felt similar to how sloth's yeet felt yesterday with everyone piling on and not as much resistance as I was would have expected for a wolf who was up for yeet

 

[LaineyLou]

What about alley?

Also when did I say AM was neutral? I clearly put her in my village reads D1. Also are you saying I voted for april, but I'm in a pack with her? I'm not following

It was just one theory I had. Also I though I put alley in but I didn’t I’ll have to go back to my spreadsheet in a minute here.

 

[kaydubs]

On Day 3, We're Shufflin' Yeet Tally

Acehunter (4) - supershorty, Dina, vetschools, sunshine
MsP (1) - April

5/12

Leading: ---

Missing: most

Yeet/Vote closes at 10pm Eastern, TOMORROW, Wednesday, 2/10/2021 (~31.75 HOURS)

 

[Dinashadow]

I still have to go back and reread the last hour before yeet close, including Vis' very long wall of text

 

[Dinashadow]

Before I do that though I wanted to ask @supershorty about her april wolf lean.

Specifically what are your thoughts regarding her voting on D1 and being early on the genny yeet?

 

[Dinashadow]

It was just one theory I had. Also I though I put alley in but I didn’t I’ll have to go back to my spreadsheet in a minute here.

So you think I bussed April D1?

I feel like you have bussing on the brain a lot this game 🤔

 

[supershorty]

Before I do that though I wanted to ask @supershorty about her april wolf lean.

Specifically what are your thoughts regarding her voting on D1 and being early on the genny yeet?

I have April as neutral, there have just been a few instances of her helping my current top wolf read that gave me wolfy vibes, but I don't have her as one of my current wolf reads.

Just finishing up some stuff around the house and then getting back to work on my alley/Ace ISOs.

 

[sunshinefl]

Well I didn’t review everyone’s posts but I see the wolves took out an obvious target, a trusted villager. I know it’s only day 3, but after getting a wolf day 1 and with 36 hour cycles, it really feels bad that we aren’t making more progress.

also, I love how most of the players left are cray being surrounded by noobs. She’s probably had nightmares about this. And AM is probably yelling at all of us in dead chat about how we’re floundering out here.

 

[Dinashadow]

I'm trying to figure out at what point @LaineyLou went from feeling the ace wagon last night was sketchy to putting him in her wolf reads today, but SDN search is making me wanna

But I found this:

Everyone’s moving to ace last minute and it’s all seeming very sus!

And then it went to this:

wolfy
-dina: stated she doesnt feel the april vote and feels am is neutral. it would make sense that she knew AM was neutral if she were a wolf and in a pack with april.
-cray: stated that they were the first person to call out genny for being wolfy however when i looked back crays first reads post didnt include genny at all. hmmmmm? they unvoted alley and voted sloth last minute (not sure the relevance on this unless alley is wolf and they were trying to hide their unyeet of alley (pot wolf) within the end of the day
-April: stated they think that ace is really nooby and that the rest of the pack would have told him to stay quiet and say something that made more sense. they also brought up the thought that ace could be bait but that wouldnt be too smart considering they already lost one of the pack.
-ace: last nights post were very sketchy and idk if they were nooby or just slip ups
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Her reasoning being his posts were sketchy, so why not wolf read him last night and vote for him then? Instead she waited until today


,

 

[supershorty]

And AM is probably yelling at all of us in dead chat about how we’re floundering out here.

Z tells me it's "ded in ded chat," but given that the sass king is in there now, who knows what'll happen.

 

[sunshinefl]

Z tells me it's "ded in ded chat," but given that the sass king is in there now, who knows what'll happen.

I also thought that maybe they just don’t care what happens anymore since they were out so early and their friend group is dead.

 

[Dinashadow]

Deciding on whether to vote Ace vs MsP this cycle, I think ace flipping wolf would help solidify some of my village reads (and help me move alley out a wolf lean) moreso than msp.

But no matter what ace flips I might push a MsP yeet next unless she starts actively wolf-hunting and putting meaningful votes on wolves. Otherwise I fear she may slide under the radar into end game

Lainey is also high up on my suspicions list. Can definitely see her in a pack with ace