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[confettiflyer]

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[...] whether or not his jacket is from BR's Fall 2007 line vs their Fall 2009 collection.

Yeah you might as well be speaking Swahili to me because all I hear right now is that wah-wah sound from Charlie Brown.

 

[confettiflyer]

Remember I wear $12 wal-mart dress shirts w/ $20 black docker's khakis to IPPE/OSCE and jeans/college hoodie to class & around the city.

I wear lacoste shirts only when i go out cuz my significant other buys them for me/so i minimally don't look like a bum.

Though I end up spending the extra $$ on airfare/travel, so I guess it's a wash.

 

[Oaktownhomeboy]

Remember I wear $12 wal-mart dress shirts w/ $20 black docker's khakis to IPPE/OSCE and jeans/college hoodie to class & around the city.

I wear lacoste shirts only when i go out cuz my significant other buys them for me/so i minimally don't look like a bum.

Though I end up spending the extra $$ on airfare/travel, so I guess it's a wash.

Don't forget your $400.00 Jacket too. 🙂

BTW, Medchem and Patho sucks Major!

 

[confettiflyer]

Don't forget your $400.00 Jacket too. 🙂

BTW, Medchem and Patho sucks Major!

$350 and not a cent more! Like I said, I'll pay for the stuff that counts (gore-tex, low air flow fleece).

and yes...med chem, don't get me started. or biostats. I actually like patho, it's interesting.

Aside from patho, I feel like I haven't learned anything this semester. I've just learned how to respond to trickery on exams. oh well.

 

[anonymoose410]

Are we supposed to mail a copy of our transcript from each university/college we have attended in the past to Jefferson?

Also, having never before applied for financial aid, I'm kind of confused about how it works. I've done all the things outlined on Jefferson's financial aid site, except the MPN and entrance interview.. but for my signed 1040 do I just mail it in to Jefferson, and when are we supposed to hear about how much aid we will receive?

 

[confettiflyer]

Are we supposed to mail a copy of our transcript from each university/college we have attended in the past to Jefferson?

Also, having never before applied for financial aid, I'm kind of confused about how it works. I've done all the things outlined on Jefferson's financial aid site, except the MPN and entrance interview.. but for my signed 1040 do I just mail it in to Jefferson, and when are we supposed to hear about how much aid we will receive?

I didn't mail my transcripts, I didn't take any spring/summer courses prior to matriculation so all my classes were on my PharmCAS app. If you did take courses during this time, mail that transcript alone.

And signed 1040 gets sent to the fin-aid office.

 

[violetkayak]

Are we supposed to mail a copy of our transcript from each university/college we have attended in the past to Jefferson?

Also, having never before applied for financial aid, I'm kind of confused about how it works. I've done all the things outlined on Jefferson's financial aid site, except the MPN and entrance interview.. but for my signed 1040 do I just mail it in to Jefferson, and when are we supposed to hear about how much aid we will receive?

I finished everything that was on the list and emailed the Financial Aid office (very friendly and quick). They said that they'll calculate how much my awards will be and send an email to notify me when they know how much I'll receive. The email will be sent to my Jefferson account. It's been almost 1 week since I completed the requirements, I'll let you know when I receive my award letter.

 

[anonymoose410]

I didn't mail my transcripts, I didn't take any spring/summer courses prior to matriculation so all my classes were on my PharmCAS app. If you did take courses during this time, mail that transcript alone.

And signed 1040 gets sent to the fin-aid office.

Ohh, okay. I wasn't sure, since MWU wanted me to send in all transcripts again even though PharmCAS had already verified them.

Thanks! I'll just have to wait for my financial aid then....

 

[Nikki1428]

Hey all,
Does anyone else have to take summer courses before the fall? I have to take Anatomy and Physiology 1 and 2 AND microbiology!

 

[rjk]

i'll be taking microbiology

 

[www123]

Hey all,
Does anyone else have to take summer courses before the fall? I have to take Anatomy and Physiology 1 and 2 AND microbiology!

I know this seems like a lot to do, but I had to take Anatomy and Physiology 1 and 2 last summer before I started. I know its not the most fun way to spend the summer, but it was really nice having physiology right before I had to take pathophysiology, I remembered a lot! Good luck!

 

[AwptimusPrime]

This question is mainly for confettiflyer or any other student attending Jefferson.
Recently, the University of DE and Jefferson started a combined pharmacy programs where you enroll in 3 "pre-pharmacy" years at UD and the apply to Jefferson for 4 years of pharmacy school. Do you know anything about this program? Easy to get in to if you follow the program?

 

[confettiflyer]

This question is mainly for confettiflyer or any other student attending Jefferson.
Recently, the University of DE and Jefferson started a combined pharmacy programs where you enroll in 3 "pre-pharmacy" years at UD and the apply to Jefferson for 4 years of pharmacy school. Do you know anything about this program? Easy to get in to if you follow the program?

All I found is this:

http://www.jefferson.edu/jchp/newsinfo/PharmD_TJU_UDel.cfm

This doesn't look like a "guaranteed" program in, just a way to earn a BS after completing only 3 years of undergrad with credit from JSP. You can technically do this on your own with most any pharmacy school (apply after 3 years, not completing a BS/BA and only completing prerequisites), but this is a formal program to award you a BS degree in the process.

It's similar to UCSF when you get accepted without a BS/BA into their medical school where they award you a BS en route to the MD.

 

[AwptimusPrime]

All I found is this:

http://www.jefferson.edu/jchp/newsinfo/PharmD_TJU_UDel.cfm

This doesn't look like a "guaranteed" program in, just a way to earn a BS after completing only 3 years of undergrad with credit from JSP. You can technically do this on your own with most any pharmacy school (apply after 3 years, not completing a BS/BA and only completing prerequisites), but this is a formal program to award you a BS degree in the process.

It's similar to UCSF when you get accepted without a BS/BA into their medical school where they award you a BS en route to the MD.

But I think going to UD would provide me with a better chance of getting into TJU pharmacy as they have a combined program.

Also, as a current student do you have any comments thus far about the school? Curriculum, staff, etc

 

[confettiflyer]

But I think going to UD would provide me with a better chance of getting into TJU pharmacy as they have a combined program.

Also, as a current student do you have any comments thus far about the school? Curriculum, staff, etc

Comments so far? Let's see...

PRO: strength is in its clinical program/teaching. In terms of the didactic portion of our program, we're getting taught by former USP professors + hospital practitioners in their field of expertise. Our Dean even lectures, it's pretty nice.

In terms of experiential, our IPPE's throw us right out there beginning week 2. I was part of the pharmacy team of a free clinic headed up by some medical students and a pharmacy resident. I sat in on exams, started taking BP's, med history, learned SOAP noting, pt presentations, etc... within my first few weeks.

Also, we have OSCE's which are standardized patients in our mock hospital unit. We're given "scenarios" and we work through them with the mock patients and are graded.

I've talked to my colleagues at other schools, and these aren't really done (ie their focus is more didactic). Or, if they are done, they're not done until later.

Another pro is we're taught by medical school faculty for certain classes. Another pro is access to faculty being the only class on campus right now, then again...people have been abusing this privilege.

CON: I hate medicinal chemistry. Then again, after asking around, we're getting the same junk as everyone else at other schools. Our professors for this are from UMB.

Another con...slight tweaking of the curriculum as we've been going along. Usually minor stuff like going from 50% finals to 40% or less, or switching around blocks of material. Most of this stuff is getting hammered out with us, kind of minor.

 

[xangelx]

question for confettiflyer re loans since you seem to be an expert in this plus other stuff: max federal loans (sub + unsubsidized) seem to be $33000 p.a.; did you take out the rest of your loans as grad plus? how do you go about doing that if it is not part of the fin aid package?
thanks

 

[confettiflyer]

question for confettiflyer re loans since you seem to be an expert in this plus other stuff: max federal loans (sub + unsubsidized) seem to be $33000 p.a.; did you take out the rest of your loans as grad plus? how do you go about doing that if it is not part of the fin aid package?
thanks

you have to apply for the grad plus loan separately via one of the preferred lenders (i chose access group). In fact, I recall applying for the stafford loans via that site, too.

I borrowed the max ($44k), which is the listed "cost of attendance" published by every school. I had a mix of academic grant + institutional loan + stafford sub + stafford unsub + grad plus

 

[RxRabiaRx]

you have to apply for the grad plus loan separately via one of the preferred lenders (i chose access group). In fact, I recall applying for the stafford loans via that site, too.

I borrowed the max ($44k), which is the listed "cost of attendance" published by every school. I had a mix of academic grant + institutional loan + stafford sub + stafford unsub + grad plus

So im guessing that all those loans combined are enough to pay for tuition, housing, food, basic necessities etc.?

 

[confettiflyer]

So im guessing that all those loans combined are enough to pay for tuition, housing, food, basic necessities etc.?

you could say that...depends on what your definition of "basic" is

 

[violetkayak]

Confettiflyer, I was look through the PharmCAS list of schools' accreditation status. Jefferson was marked with this - "Institution has a site visit approved by the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education, but is not yet eligible to join the American Association of Colleges of Pharmacy (AACP)." Do you know what this mean?

This is the link to that page:
http://www.pharmcas.org/collegesschools/AAGAccreditation.htm

 

[Oaktownhomeboy]

Confettiflyer, I was look through the PharmCAS list of schools' accreditation status. Jefferson was marked with this - "Institution has a site visit approved by the Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education, but is not yet eligible to join the American Association of Colleges of Pharmacy (AACP)." Do you know what this mean?

This is the link to that page:
http://www.pharmcas.org/collegesschools/AAGAccreditation.htm

I'm not too sure if this relates or not, but ACPE scheduled a visit to campus back in March to evaluate the progress of the program.

We should hear back from them around July or so to find out the result of the visit.

 

[Oaktownhomeboy]

you could say that...depends on what your definition of "basic" is

Confetti's definition of "Basic" is eating out everyday and never cooking.

I am maxed out on loans and I get by relatively ok. I do pay a bit more for rent than most students because I have a 1br apt all to myself.

 

[www123]

This question is mainly for confettiflyer or any other student attending Jefferson.
Recently, the University of DE and Jefferson started a combined pharmacy programs where you enroll in 3 "pre-pharmacy" years at UD and the apply to Jefferson for 4 years of pharmacy school. Do you know anything about this program? Easy to get in to if you follow the program?

I wouldn't say it will be easier to get in if you go this route, but the Jefferson School of Pharmacy is going to reserve 5 seats each year for Delaware students doing the 3 + 4 approach. This doesn't mean only 5 Delaware students will be accepted, just that only 5 will be reserved. Basically, you have to have all of the necessary credentials (grades, PCAT, pharmacy experience) even if you go to Delaware. Going to Delaware to relay into Jefferson is just one way to get to Jefferson, but many students that don't go to Delaware will be accepted.

 

[anonymoose410]

ok.. I have to ask again..

Has anybody received any correspondence from Jefferson? The only things I have received from them is the acceptance package and the 2009-10 school year calendar.

For some reason, my mail is slooooow all the time, and things often get lost, so I worry that I'm not receiving things I should be.

Or maybe Jefferson isn't sending anything out??

 

[rjk]

i havent gotten anything either, and I live < 10 miles away.
I wouldn't worry. I'm sure we'll be hearing from them pretty often during the summer.

 

[Oaktownhomeboy]

i havent gotten anything either, and I live < 10 miles away.
I wouldn't worry. I'm sure we'll be hearing from them pretty often during the summer.

I wouldn't be too worried about not receiving anything in the mail. Just make sure you guys are taking care of all your matriculation requirements (Ex: Physical Examinations, Immunizations, Financial Aid, etc)

 

[overdose]

hi, is anyone interview around April 10-20 hear anything from the school yet? i was interviewed on monday april 20. there were only 3 peeps at my interview. i wonder if we and others were fighting for just 1 spot 🙁

 

[confettiflyer]

hi, is anyone interview around April 10-20 hear anything from the school yet? i was interviewed on monday april 20. there were only 3 peeps at my interview. i wonder if we and others were fighting for just 1 spot 🙁

haha, i wonder if i ran into you. there was an asian chick, a guy, and some other girl who had to leave early in the afternoon.

 

[overdose]

haha, i wonder if i ran into you. there was an asian chick, a guy, and some other girl who had to leave early in the afternoon.

heehee...so confettiflyer, you're the current p1 doing the tour? haha. interesting. well, i was that asian chick who you guys had to catch the taxi for. i was a little disappointed that i couldnt tour the hospital. anywho, i got waitlisted. kinda bummed out about it. do u by any chance know how many people are on the waitlist and is it ranked? the adcom said its not ranked, but im pretty sure they have some sort of ranking method.

 

[overdose]

haha, i wonder if i ran into you. there was an asian chick, a guy, and some other girl who had to leave early in the afternoon.

heehee...so confettiflyer, you're the current p1 doing the tour? haha. interesting. well, i was that asian chick who you guys had to catch the taxi for. i was a little disappointed that i couldnt tour the hospital. anywho, i got waitlisted. kinda bummed out about it. do u by any chance know how many people are on the waitlist and is it ranked? the adcom said its not ranked, but im pretty sure they have some sort of ranking method.

 

[overdose]

haha, i wonder if i ran into you. there was an asian chick, a guy, and some other girl who had to leave early in the afternoon.

heehee...so confettiflyer, you're the current p1 doing the tour? haha. interesting. well, i was that asian chick who you guys had to catch the taxi for. i was a little disappointed that i couldnt tour the hospital. anywho, i got waitlisted. kinda bummed out about it. do u by any chance know how many people are on the waitlist and is it ranked? the adcom said its not ranked, but im pretty sure they have some sort of ranking method.

 

[confettiflyer]

heehee...so confettiflyer, you're the current p1 doing the tour? haha. interesting. well, i was that asian chick who you guys had to catch the taxi for. i was a little disappointed that i couldnt tour the hospital. anywho, i got waitlisted. kinda bummed out about it. do u by any chance know how many people are on the waitlist and is it ranked? the adcom said its not ranked, but im pretty sure they have some sort of ranking method.

maybe, maybe not, you'll never know...haha. not sure about the waitlist, but people do get pulled from that pretty late. I know someone who got pulled late July/beginning of August. From what I heard, your interview day was the last day for interviews, so the application cycle for fall 09 is now closed.

I would suggest following up via email in a few weeks just to show interest/inquire.


Totally off topic, my friend was waitlisted for USC dental and she showed up the day of orientation and asked if there were any seats left in the class. There were enough last minute withdrawals that they accepted her on the spot and she registered for classes then and there. This has nothing to do with JSP but....hey anything can happen.

 

[Oaktownhomeboy]

heehee...so confettiflyer, you're the current p1 doing the tour? haha. interesting. well, i was that asian chick who you guys had to catch the taxi for. i was a little disappointed that i couldnt tour the hospital. anywho, i got waitlisted. kinda bummed out about it. do u by any chance know how many people are on the waitlist and is it ranked? the adcom said its not ranked, but im pretty sure they have some sort of ranking method.

I would just be patient and check back with the school in a couple of weeks as previously stated by Confetti.

You've already gotten this far, don't lose faith yet. From my understand, there is always a lot of shifting around over the next couple of months from students who put down deposits to multiple schools and have yet to make a final decision on where they want to attend in the Fall.

In the mean time, just enjoy your summer. 🙂

 

[overdose]

maybe, maybe not, you'll never know...haha. not sure about the waitlist, but people do get pulled from that pretty late. I know someone who got pulled late July/beginning of August. From what I heard, your interview day was the last day for interviews, so the application cycle for fall 09 is now closed.

I would suggest following up via email in a few weeks just to show interest/inquire.


Totally off topic, my friend was waitlisted for USC dental and she showed up the day of orientation and asked if there were any seats left in the class. There were enough last minute withdrawals that they accepted her on the spot and she registered for classes then and there. This has nothing to do with JSP but....hey anything can happen.

i should have gone to the earlier dates!!!! i got a feeling that it was u! 😉 but thanks for the encouragement, you did give me an idea. i might just showed up the first day. lol.

I would just be patient and check back with the school in a couple of weeks as previously stated by Confetti.

You've already gotten this far, don't lose faith yet. From my understand, there is always a lot of shifting around over the next couple of months from students who put down deposits to multiple schools and have yet to make a final decision on where they want to attend in the Fall.

In the mean time, just enjoy your summer. 🙂

i cantttt really enjoy my summer. i was really hoping that i'd get in so i can start planning for things. do you suggest i retake the pcat in june and update the score? i know one of the reason why i was invited so late cuz of my low pcat score. below the requirement. I LOVE TJU!!!!!!!!!!

 

[confettiflyer]

My backup plan was to continue to take classes in case I didn't get admitted. I was in the middle of planning it out when I got my acceptance. So yeah, continue to plan and improve your application as though you did not get in and should you get pulled off the waitlist, cancel those prep plans and move forward.

 

[Oaktownhomeboy]

If you don't mind me asking, how did you score on the PCATs? If you scored below a 70 or so, I would def suggest taking it again. Most schools have a minimum that they look for.

 

[overdose]

If you don't mind me asking, how did you score on the PCATs? If you scored below a 70 or so, I would def suggest taking it again. Most schools have a minimum that they look for.

I did score below 70. yea, i will def try to do everything i can to get into this school! i loved everything about tju, campus-curriculum-faculty-location, and know for sure ill be receiving quality education here.

 

[confettiflyer]

Hey, was it my imagination, or did the stats people say the #1 predictor for academic success for our class happened to be the PCAT math subscore?

Can't wait to see the stats after this semester....not.👎

 

[Oaktownhomeboy]

Hey, was it my imagination, or did the stats people say the #1 predictor for academic success for our class happened to be the PCAT math subscore?

Can't wait to see the stats after this semester....not.👎

Stop hating confetti. With all the EC we've been getting lately... this semester is starting to look a little brighter... just a little.

Overdose - why is it that you want to come to Jefferson? I see the enthusiasm each time you talk about the school. How did you hear about us?

 

[overdose]

i think tju is a beautiful campus. i know my status is not competitive, that's why i think i would have a better chance with new schools. Among the new schools i've applied to, tju is so far the "best fit" for me. their mission and vision correspond to wat im looking for in a school. plus, its other healthcare programs are already established, and it has its own hospital! the faculty are experts in their field, teaching style is very innovative; lectures are recorded and saved in the data base. i just feel that this school already has all the resources for the students to be successful. i also like the location- downtown phily! coming from ca, this school offers an opportunity for me to experience a new life style and gain new perspective. i have always wanted to live in new york, and phily is pretty much like new york. haha. i also like it cuz my goof friend got accepted this year to tju, it'd be so cool if we can go to same school together! so yea, so far those are the reasons. 😀

 

[tommyVoltage]

i think tju is a beautiful campus. i know my status is not competitive, that's why i think i would have a better chance with new schools. Among the new schools i've applied to, tju is so far the "best fit" for me. their mission and vision correspond to wat im looking for in a school. plus, its other healthcare programs are already established, and it has its own hospital! the faculty are experts in their field, teaching style is very innovative; lectures are recorded and saved in the data base. i just feel that this school already has all the resources for the students to be successful. i also like the location- downtown phily! coming from ca, this school offers an opportunity for me to experience a new life style and gain new perspective. i have always wanted to live in new york, and phily is pretty much like new york. haha. i also like it cuz my goof friend got accepted this year to tju, it'd be so cool if we can go to same school together! so yea, so far those are the reasons. 😀

philadelphia is better then new york city. i plan on applying to thomas jefferson mid-july as soon as my grades come out for microbio and a&p 1/2 (summer classes i'm taking). it's my #1 choice and i really hope i get in. chance of a 3.08 overall gpa getting in with CPhT and leadership (club and fraternity)? i hope 100%. ha

 

[JTrue14]

philadelphia is better then new york city. i plan on applying to thomas jefferson mid-july as soon as my grades come out for microbio and a&p 1/2 (summer classes i'm taking). it's my #1 choice and i really hope i get in. chance of a 3.08 overall gpa getting in with CPhT and leadership (club and fraternity)? i hope 100%. ha

Although I already declined my acceptance, my GPA was 2.989 if you worried about your GPA. I was an Bioengineering major at UCSD if that really makes a difference.

 

[tommyVoltage]

Although I already declined my acceptance, my GPA was 2.989 if you worried about your GPA. I was an Bioengineering major at UCSD if that really makes a difference.

i'm just nervous to see what my pharmcas gpa will be because i repeated a course and i read that they count all grades in gpa included failed/repeated courses.

 

[JTrue14]

i'm just nervous to see what my pharmcas gpa will be because i repeated a course and i read that they count all grades in gpa included failed/repeated courses.

Well nothing you can really do about it, just focus on your essays, PCAT(if needed) and interview skills. I know of another individual who was accepted with a sub 3.0 gpa (We both got 91+ PCAT to make up for this), so just definately not just about high GPAs.

 

[confettiflyer]

Although I already declined my acceptance, my GPA was 2.989 if you worried about your GPA. I was an Bioengineering major at UCSD if that really makes a difference.

Yeah a 2.989 for that difficult of a major at such a good university would account for the admissions offer. I know UCLA's MIMG major has something like a 2.8 or 2.9 average GPA on graduation.

I was in your boat with a >90 PCAT to make up for the ~3.0 at UC.

 

[Egg]

Question about the lab requirement at Jefferson:

My school offers Anatomy w/ Lab (6 qt hrs) and Physiology I + II (5 qt hrs each) without lab. You think this will be okay?

Also, I'm a bit short on the quarter hour conversion (I took a 5 qt hr Microbio class which which is less than 4 semester hrs). Is this a problem?

 

[Kirbypuff]

Question about the lab requirement at Jefferson:

My school offers Anatomy w/ Lab (6 qt hrs) and Physiology I + II (5 qt hrs each) without lab. You think this will be okay?

Also, I'm a bit short on the quarter hour conversion (I took a 5 qt hr Microbio class which which is less than 4 semester hrs). Is this a problem?

I think it might be a problem... I had to take a 4 cr microbiology class this semester which was full/closed in January and I was on a waitlist to get in. I emailed the admin to see if another course for 3 cr was acceptable and she replied that I have to take the 4 cr one. 3 cr is not acceptable... but 5 qt is technically 3.3 cr... that's tricky! I would definitely email and ask.

 

[confettiflyer]

Question about the lab requirement at Jefferson:

My school offers Anatomy w/ Lab (6 qt hrs) and Physiology I + II (5 qt hrs each) without lab. You think this will be okay?

Also, I'm a bit short on the quarter hour conversion (I took a 5 qt hr Microbio class which which is less than 4 semester hrs). Is this a problem?

Definitely a question for Karen Jacobs Astle, but it does seem like you are deficient.

 

[Egg]

I think it might be a problem... I had to take a 4 cr microbiology class this semester which was full/closed in January and I was on a waitlist to get in. I emailed the admin to see if another course for 3 cr was acceptable and she replied that I have to take the 4 cr one. 3 cr is not acceptable... but 5 qt is technically 3.3 cr... that's tricky! I would definitely email and ask.

Definitely a question for Karen Jacobs Astle, but it does seem like you are deficient.

That's discouraging. I shot an email, but I'm not hopeful. Thanks.

 

[nerv12345]

wha i forgot about SDN...finally a thread dedicated to our up-and-running school!

hello friends. i'm a 1st year at TJU as well.