Time To Get a WWatch - Game Thread

[Truenamer]

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This isn’t about him, it’s about you.

Explain Lawpishly

I feel like someone asks this every two pages haha

Nate claims touristing samac.

And then he found out actions are sometimes loud on SDN and acted very... upset? Annoyed?

 

[NateTheLesser]

For @Truenamer and anyone else confused about Clem:

I get it. Clem can have that effect. For whatever it's worth, his approach to this game has been pretty much standard Clem. This is how he plays the game. I haven't actually seen him in the mafia alignment much (if at all, seriously can't remember a game even if it seems likely there's been one), but I've seen him town often.

The thing that most moved me was the way he responded to nearly being eliminated on Day 1. "Fine, whatever, not a big deal to chop me, my role is bad for town. Just make sure you don't fall for Jay's cute eyes" -- I've seen that before in the very recent past from town Clem, and I tend to doubt he was putting on a show for my sake. I also think he has handled the Nate-related mechanics of today in a way that is prototypical Clem.

I am not super confident, but I feel decent about it by the standards of this game (where I don't feel decent about much else -- if everyone seems town, then by definition everyone also seems mafia. Eek!).

Champs game 3

 

[Jagged Jimmy Jay]

Champs game 3

Yeah I mean outside the context of champs. I don't think that version of Clem maps to either alignment elsewhere. He had different goals.

Anyway this Clem is nothing like that Clem.

 

[Truenamer]

Champs game 3

Let's see, time to go quickly skim hundreds of pages I will simply take people's word for it.

 

[NateTheLesser]

Maybe April receiving a clock from me made mafia think they were watched??

I thought it was a banana? What's your actual flavor?

 

[NateTheLesser]

Yeah I mean outside the context of champs. I don't think that version of Clem maps to either alignment elsewhere. He had different goals.

Anyway this Clem is nothing like that Clem.

Yeah he's nothing like he was there. Just in case anyone wants to do some diving.

 

[Empire]

If there's any tendency on this site for people to be informed when they have been tracked or watched, then it provides a clear motivation for Nate to have made his get-out-in-front claim that I didn't know existed before. I have never heard of that being a thing anywhere else, so being informed of that here was kind of like a "well, sheesh, that's extremely important" moment.

but then if so why would he not say he was tracked, is the thing

b/c clearly he does not have that knowledge

 

[Aprilthearab]

Sorry, answered once in a big post, will try and do better here.

I was the first vote on you because when I did a broader analysis of my reads list, the only people at the bottom were new folks. Clem, then Nate, then Empire.

I was never village reading you as much as the general consensus, and there's also been a general feeling today that it's very hard figuring out who fits as a pack. To me, that feels like a wolf is sitting in the consensus town reads. JJJ was vouching for Clem, Empire won me over over the course of the day (enough, at least), and there was already a healthy wagon on Nate. It didn't feel useful to be vote five or six or whatever on him.

So I put the first vote on you to try and generate some more discussion and stir the pot a bit. It was never a lock-on read or anything. And I just haven't found a better person to move to yet.

Okay. I don't like it but I appreciate the response.

My two biggest pet peeves (like, rage inducing pet peeves) are 1) getting piled on while I'm away from the thread and can't defend myself right before EOD and 2) people not explaining why they're voting for me. So I apologize if it seemed like I was pissy when I got here but that's because I was.

 

[NateTheLesser]

Explain Lawpishly


And then he found out actions are sometimes loud on SDN and acted very... upset? Annoyed?

Loud actions would have changed my approach to the day entirely is all. And it makes more sense why SDNers would be more dubious about my claim.

 

[Empire]

jjj is kind of starting to occupy the space i would expect a wolf to but meh

 

[Truenamer]

Okay. I don't like it but I appreciate the response.

My two biggest pet peeves (like, rage inducing pet peeves) are 1) getting piled on while I'm away from the thread and can't defend myself right before EOD and 2) people not explaining why they're voting for me. So I apologize if it seemed like I was pissy when I got here but that's because I was.

Sorry. I did explain at the time as well but I'm sure it's gotten lost in the shuffle.

If it makes you feel better, it's once again not a pile-on at all. I think I'm the only one on your vote.

Remind me again what your rationale was for Empire? I don't think you need to rush to defend yourself, you don't seem to be at risk.

 

[Empire]

nae did you ever update your thoughts on sporty?

 

[Truenamer]

jjj is kind of starting to occupy the space i would expect a wolf to but meh

Slightly worried that the strong start charmed us but I believe that he's busy in real life and don't want to hold that against his play. It's very hard keeping up that pace of play while being a human in the real world.

 

[SportPonies]

Slightly worried that the strong start charmed us but I believe that he's busy in real life and don't want to hold that against his play. It's very hard keeping up that pace of play while being a human in the real world.

You’re really making me tinfoil against you, Truey

And I’m sorry if you’re just being a good human

 

[Animal Midwife]

jjj is kind of starting to occupy the space i would expect a wolf to but meh

What do you mean by that?

 

[Empire]

Slightly worried that the strong start charmed us but I believe that he's busy in real life and don't want to hold that against his play. It's very hard keeping up that pace of play while being a human in the real world.

it's not about pace or w/e just positioning and vibes

it's hard because a lot of his posts recently click for me in terms of what they are saying but in terms of where he is i am apprehensive

 

[Zenge142]

Day 2: What Time Is It? PARTY TIME! Vote Tally

JJJ ()
Empire (1) - April
PSV (1) - AM
Nate (4) - JJJ, Clem, Empire, Santy
April (1) - True
Sporty (1) - Nate
AM (2) - Sporty, PSV

10/10
Winning: @NateTheLesser
Missing: none atm
Deadline: 10pm EDT/9pm CDT/8pm MDT/7pm fantasyland TODAY (~40 MINUTES)

 

[Truenamer]

You’re really making me tinfoil against you, Truey

And I’m sorry if you’re just being a good human

This is like how you always try to yeet Dubz, isn't it

 

[Jagged Jimmy Jay]

but then if so why would he not say he was tracked, is the thing

b/c clearly he does not have that knowledge

Per AM's description, this doesn't tend to take the shape of a conclusive "you were tracked" message, but rather it's an ominous bit of flavor that must be interpreted.

 

[SportPonies]

This is like how you always try to yeet Dubz, isn't it

No I graduated from that

Maybe you’re the new dubz

 

[Truenamer]

it's not about pace or w/e just positioning and vibes

it's hard because a lot of his posts recently click for me in terms of what they are saying but in terms of where he is i am apprehensive

Might... need you to expand on that second sentence a little more. Not sure I follow.

 

[SportPonies]

This is like how you always try to yeet Dubz, isn't it

But also AtE noted

 

[Empire]

What do you mean by that?

it's, like, a gamestate type of read

 

[Truenamer]

But also AtE noted

C'mon, if I slack on the AtE as a villager I can't use it as a wolf.

Same thing with terrible wolfish jokes. Gotta keep them up now so that I can really savor them later.

 

[Aprilthearab]

Sorry. I did explain at the time as well but I'm sure it's gotten lost in the shuffle.

If it makes you feel better, it's once again not a pile-on at all. I think I'm the only one on your vote.

Remind me again what your rationale was for Empire? I don't think you need to rush to defend yourself, you don't seem to be at risk.

I think I might have momentarily been tied when I had three votes on me but yeah, I feel better now

Here was my quick summary post for Empire

I didn't like your super hedgy clem push, I don't like that you landed on genny, I think there was a wolf on genny's vote and it wasn't Samac and I'm village reading JJJ and Clem was a self-prez with village feels which leads me to either you or santy and I'm feeling worse vibes about you than santy, I don't have any good village points to give you despite knowing you're a good experienced player, and there were particular posts of yours that would make a lot of sense to fit the strategy of a wolf

But I would need to revisit this depending on my thoughts on Nate which are worsening seeing how he responded to the mechanics discussion a page or two ago. I think I recall Empire voting Nate at some point? I can't keep track of who voted who without a chart tbh

 

[Empire]

Per AM's description, this doesn't tend to take the shape of a conclusive "you were tracked" message, but rather it's an ominous bit of flavor that must be interpreted.

ah right that somehow fell outof my brain in the intervening minutes

 

[SportPonies]

Unyeet AM
Yeet True

just for fun

 

[Truenamer]

Per AM's description, this doesn't tend to take the shape of a conclusive "you were tracked" message, but rather it's an ominous bit of flavor that must be interpreted.

This is my experience as well.

It's usually something really frustrating like "when you wake up in the morning, the condensation on your window is in a strange pattern" and you spend the next 36 hours mad about condensation.

 

[SportPonies]

Per AM's description, this doesn't tend to take the shape of a conclusive "you were tracked" message, but rather it's an ominous bit of flavor that must be interpreted.

That was me. Rood.

 

[Empire]

okay my thing is that

i could see nate sussing sporty based on how she was posting over the rest of the game


but i feel like over the last few pages sporty has been extremely villagery and i just wanted nate to comment on it, say SOMETHING about what he thinks of the person he is currently voting to yeet

 

[WildZoo]

Maybe you’re the new dubz

🥺 😔

 

[Truenamer]

Unyeet AM
Yeet True

just for fun

I don't think this is fun.

But to put the AtE aside, is it just bad vibes?

 

[Jagged Jimmy Jay]

it's, like, a gamestate type of read

It's a frustrating, difficult game. I have 370 posts, some kind of "reputation" or something, and a position of perceived leadership (emphasis on perceived, because I don't really feel like I'm leading much). The longer that state exists, the more people like me look or feel weird. It's a product of the environment.

 

[Truenamer]

🥺 😔

Dubz, it's because you've ascended

 

[Jagged Jimmy Jay]

That was me. Rood.

Apologies. I can't keep all you MU people straight!

 

[Truenamer]

It's a frustrating, difficult game. I have 370 posts, some kind of "reputation" or something, and a position of perceived leadership (emphasis on perceived, because I don't really feel like I'm leading much). The longer that state exists, the more people like me look or feel weird. It's a product of the environment.

Is this like how people start to wolfread Samac or Zenge when they haven't caught a wolf by D3?

 

[Zenge142]

Day 2: What Time Is It? PARTY TIME! Vote Tally

JJJ ()
Empire (1) - April
PSV (1) - AM
Nate (4) - JJJ, Clem, Empire, Santy
April (1) - True
Sporty (1) - Nate
AM (1) - PSV
True (1) - Sporty

10/10
Winning: @NateTheLesser
Missing: none atm
Deadline: 10pm EDT/9pm CDT/8pm MDT/7pm fantasyland TODAY (~40 MINUTES)

 

[Santygrass]

I thought it was a banana? What's your actual flavor?

The banana was my suit.
The fruit I give consist of time related things/ puns ofc. So thats why I thought of a watch that could make the mafia paranoid , but rereading I dont think I would have given just a watch so I think whatev it is that April said makes more sense.


Also lol a soup. I hope I can give a time banana or something next night, would be on brand

 

[Aprilthearab]

These are the responses that I referenced in my above post about being concerning btw

You've gotta be ****ing kidding me.

I'm a goddamn joke 😅

If I knew roles are usually loud I wouldn't have claimed

 

[Aprilthearab]

These are the responses that I referenced in my above post about being concerning btw

To elaborate, they kind of feel like a wolf realizing their fatal mistake and just accepting they're going down

 

[Santygrass]

It's a frustrating, difficult game. I have 370 posts, some kind of "reputation" or something, and a position of perceived leadership (emphasis on perceived, because I don't really feel like I'm leading much). The longer that state exists, the more people like me look or feel weird. It's a product of the environment.

I disagree. I think its a clear product of Skill Issue

 

[Jagged Jimmy Jay]

Is this like how people start to wolfread Samac or Zenge when they haven't caught a wolf by D3?

Every game of my life. At least when I'm not catching them as quickly as I would like.

 

[NateTheLesser]

nae did you ever update your thoughts on sporty?

I have not really been able to back read the last couple hours.

 

[Truenamer]

To elaborate, they kind of feel like a wolf realizing their fatal mistake and just accepting they're going down

Yes, I agree, I felt the same way.

 

[Jagged Jimmy Jay]

I disagree. I think its a clear product of Skill Issue

APPARENTLY.

 

[Empire]

Is this like how people start to wolfread Samac or Zenge when they haven't caught a wolf by D3?

it's not exactly a burden of proficiency read (i hate those, they're gross)

just like in terms of where he is and what other players are doing

it could be absolutely nothing i'm not flashwagoning him

 

[Empire]

I have not really been able to back read the last couple hours.

sigh

 

[SportPonies]

🥺 😔

Hey, you should be happy! You have all my love and adoration AND I stopped trying to mercilessly yeet you every day of my life!

 

[Empire]

i gotta go switch computers i'll be back in a few

 

[Truenamer]

Hey, you should be happy! You have all my love and adoration AND I stopped trying to mercilessly yeet you every day of my life!

I'm going to request 32% more love and adoration if I'm getting the yeeting instead