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For @Truenamer and anyone else confused about Clem:

I get it. Clem can have that effect. For whatever it's worth, his approach to this game has been pretty much standard Clem. This is how he plays the game. I haven't actually seen him in the mafia alignment much (if at all, seriously can't remember a game even if it seems likely there's been one), but I've seen him town often.

The thing that most moved me was the way he responded to nearly being eliminated on Day 1. "Fine, whatever, not a big deal to chop me, my role is bad for town. Just make sure you don't fall for Jay's cute eyes" -- I've seen that before in the very recent past from town Clem, and I tend to doubt he was putting on a show for my sake. I also think he has handled the Nate-related mechanics of today in a way that is prototypical Clem.

I am not super confident, but I feel decent about it by the standards of this game (where I don't feel decent about much else -- if everyone seems town, then by definition everyone also seems mafia. Eek!).
Champs game 3
 
Yeah I mean outside the context of champs. I don't think that version of Clem maps to either alignment elsewhere. He had different goals.

Anyway this Clem is nothing like that Clem.
Yeah he's nothing like he was there. Just in case anyone wants to do some diving.
 
If there's any tendency on this site for people to be informed when they have been tracked or watched, then it provides a clear motivation for Nate to have made his get-out-in-front claim that I didn't know existed before. I have never heard of that being a thing anywhere else, so being informed of that here was kind of like a "well, sheesh, that's extremely important" moment.
but then if so why would he not say he was tracked, is the thing

b/c clearly he does not have that knowledge
 
Sorry, answered once in a big post, will try and do better here.

I was the first vote on you because when I did a broader analysis of my reads list, the only people at the bottom were new folks. Clem, then Nate, then Empire.

I was never village reading you as much as the general consensus, and there's also been a general feeling today that it's very hard figuring out who fits as a pack. To me, that feels like a wolf is sitting in the consensus town reads. JJJ was vouching for Clem, Empire won me over over the course of the day (enough, at least), and there was already a healthy wagon on Nate. It didn't feel useful to be vote five or six or whatever on him.

So I put the first vote on you to try and generate some more discussion and stir the pot a bit. It was never a lock-on read or anything. And I just haven't found a better person to move to yet.
Okay. I don't like it but I appreciate the response.

My two biggest pet peeves (like, rage inducing pet peeves) are 1) getting piled on while I'm away from the thread and can't defend myself right before EOD and 2) people not explaining why they're voting for me. So I apologize if it seemed like I was pissy when I got here but that's because I was.
 
Explain Lawpishly


And then he found out actions are sometimes loud on SDN and acted very... upset? Annoyed?
Loud actions would have changed my approach to the day entirely is all. And it makes more sense why SDNers would be more dubious about my claim.
 
Okay. I don't like it but I appreciate the response.

My two biggest pet peeves (like, rage inducing pet peeves) are 1) getting piled on while I'm away from the thread and can't defend myself right before EOD and 2) people not explaining why they're voting for me. So I apologize if it seemed like I was pissy when I got here but that's because I was.
Sorry. I did explain at the time as well but I'm sure it's gotten lost in the shuffle.

If it makes you feel better, it's once again not a pile-on at all. I think I'm the only one on your vote.

Remind me again what your rationale was for Empire? I don't think you need to rush to defend yourself, you don't seem to be at risk.
 
jjj is kind of starting to occupy the space i would expect a wolf to but meh
Slightly worried that the strong start charmed us but I believe that he's busy in real life and don't want to hold that against his play. It's very hard keeping up that pace of play while being a human in the real world.
 
Slightly worried that the strong start charmed us but I believe that he's busy in real life and don't want to hold that against his play. It's very hard keeping up that pace of play while being a human in the real world.
You’re really making me tinfoil against you, Truey

And I’m sorry if you’re just being a good human
 
Slightly worried that the strong start charmed us but I believe that he's busy in real life and don't want to hold that against his play. It's very hard keeping up that pace of play while being a human in the real world.
it's not about pace or w/e just positioning and vibes

it's hard because a lot of his posts recently click for me in terms of what they are saying but in terms of where he is i am apprehensive
 
Day 2: What Time Is It? PARTY TIME! Vote Tally

JJJ ()
Empire (1) - April
PSV (1) - AM
Nate (4) - JJJ, Clem, Empire, Santy
April (1) - True
Sporty (1) - Nate
AM (2) - Sporty, PSV

10/10
Winning: @NateTheLesser
Missing: none atm
Deadline: 10pm EDT/9pm CDT/8pm MDT/7pm fantasyland TODAY (~40 MINUTES)
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but then if so why would he not say he was tracked, is the thing

b/c clearly he does not have that knowledge
Per AM's description, this doesn't tend to take the shape of a conclusive "you were tracked" message, but rather it's an ominous bit of flavor that must be interpreted.
 
it's not about pace or w/e just positioning and vibes

it's hard because a lot of his posts recently click for me in terms of what they are saying but in terms of where he is i am apprehensive
Might... need you to expand on that second sentence a little more. Not sure I follow.
 
Sorry. I did explain at the time as well but I'm sure it's gotten lost in the shuffle.

If it makes you feel better, it's once again not a pile-on at all. I think I'm the only one on your vote.

Remind me again what your rationale was for Empire? I don't think you need to rush to defend yourself, you don't seem to be at risk.
I think I might have momentarily been tied when I had three votes on me but yeah, I feel better now

Here was my quick summary post for Empire
I didn't like your super hedgy clem push, I don't like that you landed on genny, I think there was a wolf on genny's vote and it wasn't Samac and I'm village reading JJJ and Clem was a self-prez with village feels which leads me to either you or santy and I'm feeling worse vibes about you than santy, I don't have any good village points to give you despite knowing you're a good experienced player, and there were particular posts of yours that would make a lot of sense to fit the strategy of a wolf
But I would need to revisit this depending on my thoughts on Nate which are worsening seeing how he responded to the mechanics discussion a page or two ago. I think I recall Empire voting Nate at some point? I can't keep track of who voted who without a chart tbh
 
Per AM's description, this doesn't tend to take the shape of a conclusive "you were tracked" message, but rather it's an ominous bit of flavor that must be interpreted.
ah right that somehow fell outof my brain in the intervening minutes
 
Per AM's description, this doesn't tend to take the shape of a conclusive "you were tracked" message, but rather it's an ominous bit of flavor that must be interpreted.
This is my experience as well.

It's usually something really frustrating like "when you wake up in the morning, the condensation on your window is in a strange pattern" and you spend the next 36 hours mad about condensation.
 
okay my thing is that

i could see nate sussing sporty based on how she was posting over the rest of the game


but i feel like over the last few pages sporty has been extremely villagery and i just wanted nate to comment on it, say SOMETHING about what he thinks of the person he is currently voting to yeet
 
it's, like, a gamestate type of read
It's a frustrating, difficult game. I have 370 posts, some kind of "reputation" or something, and a position of perceived leadership (emphasis on perceived, because I don't really feel like I'm leading much). The longer that state exists, the more people like me look or feel weird. It's a product of the environment.
 
It's a frustrating, difficult game. I have 370 posts, some kind of "reputation" or something, and a position of perceived leadership (emphasis on perceived, because I don't really feel like I'm leading much). The longer that state exists, the more people like me look or feel weird. It's a product of the environment.
Is this like how people start to wolfread Samac or Zenge when they haven't caught a wolf by D3?
 
Day 2: What Time Is It? PARTY TIME! Vote Tally

JJJ ()
Empire (1) - April
PSV (1) - AM
Nate (4) - JJJ, Clem, Empire, Santy
April (1) - True
Sporty (1) - Nate
AM (1) - PSV
True (1) - Sporty

10/10
Winning: @NateTheLesser
Missing: none atm
Deadline: 10pm EDT/9pm CDT/8pm MDT/7pm fantasyland TODAY (~40 MINUTES)
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I thought it was a banana? What's your actual flavor?
The banana was my suit.
The fruit I give consist of time related things/ puns ofc. So thats why I thought of a watch that could make the mafia paranoid , but rereading I dont think I would have given just a watch so I think whatev it is that April said makes more sense.


Also lol a soup. I hope I can give a time banana or something next night, would be on brand
 
It's a frustrating, difficult game. I have 370 posts, some kind of "reputation" or something, and a position of perceived leadership (emphasis on perceived, because I don't really feel like I'm leading much). The longer that state exists, the more people like me look or feel weird. It's a product of the environment.
I disagree. I think its a clear product of Skill Issue
 
Is this like how people start to wolfread Samac or Zenge when they haven't caught a wolf by D3?
it's not exactly a burden of proficiency read (i hate those, they're gross)

just like in terms of where he is and what other players are doing

it could be absolutely nothing i'm not flashwagoning him
 
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