To the straight A students...what’s your secret?

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White noise hardly disproves my point about focus.

The point isn't to have absolute silence but to have nothing other than the material available to distract. The very nature of white noise is that it is non-distracting. White noise is essentially a variation on quiet. I usually have a fan going in the background, because it blocks out road noise from the busy street outside my window. That makes my study area more quiet, not less, even though the absolute decibels of the room are higher than without it. You really can't be so concrete a thinker as to not understand this distinction.

I'm not trying to disprove your point about focus. My point is that not everyone is the same. You are suffering from solipsism in that you assume everyone is like you, where learning to focus solely on one thing is key. That is not how it works for certain people, including people with ADHD. And white noise is not like quiet. When someone has trouble focusing and uses white noise to help them focus, the whole point is that it isn't quiet. Counterintuitively, having a non-distracting noise in the background allows your mind to quiet and focus, whereas just having quiet does not.

You are completely missing the point of white noise in students with ADHD. Yes, it blocks out outside distractions, but the increased performance and retention is present when the students are tested in complete quiet versus white noise as well. The point of the white noise is that having absolute quiet can actually be pretty distracting for these students.

So, no, I'm not such a concrete thinker. I understand the distinction completely, and for someone who does not have a learning disability or an attention disorder, your distinction is correct. However, you seem completely incapable of understanding that other people experience the world differently, and what may be true for you is not necessarily true for others.

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Now you are just wrong.

Behavioral therapies and personal coping strategies are absolutely valid and effective ways for folks with ADD/ADHD to change their outcomes and improve their attention spans. They are not helpless victims of broken brains that simply cannot learn to function differently. Yes, there may always be tendency for a brain to work a certain way, but there is also a great deal of plasticity. The way you use your brain affects structure and function. Attention is a skill. It is learnable and it improves with practice. Like many skills, it isn't always fun to do the work to build it. But there are rewards for those who do.

I'm not wrong, I just worded it poorly, which is my mistake. I have ADHD and other issues, and I clearly don't consider myself a helpless victim of a broken brain.

What I was getting at is that people seem to be arguing that you can just train your ADHD away by "trying harder." That's not how it works. You can certainly get better so that in testing situations, you won't be completely useless without your white noise, but there is a reason why they provide accommodations for people with ADHD. And btw, while CBT does help, it does not "cure" ADHD. It does help immensely though. Despite this, I still use my white noise method when I am studying, as it allows me to retain the most information in the shortest amount of time.
 
So, no, I'm not such a concrete thinker. I understand the distinction completely, and for someone who does not have a learning disability or an attention disorder, your distinction is correct. However, you seem completely incapable of understanding that other people experience the world differently, and what may be true for you is not necessarily true for others.

You continue to attempt to conflate "quiet" and "silence." I won't argue that further with you, because I think the distinction will be obvious to anyone reading along who doesn't share your attachment to a side of an increasingly pointless argument.

As for your charge of solipsism and my lack of understanding of the challenges of ADHD.... LOL.

My ADD is so bad that I didn't bother learning to drive until I was in my late 30s. I was sincerely afraid that my attention would wander at the wrong moment and I'd kill someone or myself. I didn't want to have to be medicated in order to function, so I limited my life to what I could accomplish safely without medication.

I'm still unmedicated. I've just learned how to pay attention. It is a skill. It can be learned. It takes work and that isn't as fun as watching Scrubs while pretending to study. I still have ADD. I still have trouble staying on task. But the more I do it, the more I learn to do it better.

Glad what you are doing is working for you. Have a great day!
 
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I think the key is to not having too much work load in one semester especially no more than 3 sic classes each semester...since we also need to do volunteering, clubs, research at the same time.
 
Actually, it's not bull. People who have issues focusing on a single task often do better with background noise. It's very common for people who have issues studying in silence or focusing on a single task to see an improvement in focus and performance when they can add background noise, often in the form of a movie or tv show they've seen a million times.

On a more personal note, I have tried to study that way where I focus on nothing but what I'm studying. I often find that after an hour or two, I have gotten almost nothing done because I keep getting distracted. When I started putting episodes of Scrubs or some other show I've seen a million times in another window where I can listen to it, my productivity skyrockets. This was also recommended to me by a physician who has the same issues.

So it may be less time efficient--for you. Solipsism is not a great world view.
It truly doesn't matter how you study best. What matters is the time and attention that you put into whatever it is that you do. If taking in material, making notes on it, and then consolidating those notes isn't "how you study best," then you do you.

But ya still have to put in the hours for that. And that requires strict honesty about where your attention is. If a person is attending to anything else but the material, through whatever modality, and then they come here begging for someone to explain how to get A's, then I have no sympathy. Most of the time, they didn't really put in the hours that they thought they did. Having tutored dozens of people over a period of years, this is what I have found is the number one reason why people feel like they are putting in time and getting poor results.

A lot of people who claim that they can't study in focused, disciplined quiet are just unfamiliar with it. It isn't high stimulation and it isn't as social / fun as group "study." So, because they've never really applied themselves to the process, pushed through the boredom to get to the results it can provide, they claim that "that just doesn't work for me."

Bull, but whatever, let's go with it and pretend that you can get the same or better results from having a video running in one window and facebook open in the other. I definitely study that way sometimes, and know for sure that is more fun, but is a lot less effective and time efficient. Two hours of study with other distractions going on is roughly equivalent in actual learning and retention to less than half an hour of focused attention, in my experience. So, if OP is saying that they do put in hours and hours of study, but that time is spent with split attention, then that person is lying to themselves about how much actual study time they are putting in.

I agree with both of you. Focus is necessary, but the question is what enables you to focus. There is individual variability here. Some people need some background stimulation (my best friend likes background documentaries, while I like music that I enjoy), whereas others focus better in silence.

Although certain music helps me focus, I turn my phone on airplane mode and my laptop on do not disturb mode when I study.

I also prefer to study alone. Groups are fun, but they're not a replacement for doing the work.

So again, what works depends on self-knowledge of what helps you focus.
 
Hi everyone,

This semester has probably been the most frustrating on yet. I’ve just been getting one bad grade after another and I’m really close to the breakin point honestly 🙁

The amount of time I’m putting in is not the issue - I believe it just may not be the most effective way?

What are you study techniques (specifically for science course) that help you achieve As on exams?

I’d appreciate any input.

For orgo I joined a study group with other really smart people. Being able to talk through mechanisms with them was incredibly helpful. Second semester physics was very challenging for me so I got a tutor through the university. I got a 72 on the first exam for that class before the tutor and after I got the tutor my remaining exam average was a 94. While studying I would put away all distractions. I would give myself short breaks every 30~ minutes. Every 2 hours I tool a longer break. Professor and TA office hours can also be helpful if you have specific questions. If you find yourself getting very stressed while studying take a break. If you can't focus on the material you might as well relax for a few minutes before trying again. Good luck!
 
The major switch I made in undergrad that allowed me to get all A's my last 4 semesters was when I was studying. I began waking up at 5:30/6 a.m. allowing myself two hours to study prior to starting my day. As most college students aren't awake at those times, I was distraction free and guaranteed 2 hours of studying despite other things coming up during the day.
 
The fact of the matter is that I studied far more than almost anyone else in my classes despite working partime-full time. The way I saw it, if grades are on a bell curve, and you want a 90th percentile score, you should be working harder that 90% if your classmates at the very least. (I have since taken this attitude to medical school and it seriously has paid off). When sheer grit wasn’t enough, I worked with the learning center and previous students in that class on study methods.


in studying more and practicing problems more, I got more efficient and had a stronger foundations that others leading to a cruise through senior year and the mcat. (And hopefully the same thing will happen for pathophys second year and step 1)

How did you develop this work ethic?
 
White noise hardly disproves my point about focus.

The point isn't to have absolute silence but to have nothing other than the material available to distract. The very nature of white noise is that it is non-distracting. White noise is essentially a variation on quiet. I usually have a fan going in the background, because it blocks out road noise from the busy street outside my window. That makes my study area more quiet, not less, even though the absolute decibels of the room are higher than without it. You really can't be so concrete a thinker as to not understand this distinction.

Edited to roll back an unnecessarily snarky response. Look... if you are getting great grades watching Scrubs while you study, then good for you. I still think you could do better by learning to focus instead. It is actually a skill that one can build. I used to say the same things that you are, that I did better with more than one content stream going at once... but then I found out how much better I could do once I learned how to really pay attention to one thing at a time. And if you are doing well like that, then you are probably not the person who was begging for help, huh?

That person (and anyone else who might wander along to read this, and almost all of the very many students that I've tutored over years) is probably falling into a trap of entertaining themselves so well with other inputs that they aren't really studying as many hours as they think they are. It is THE most common mistake that students make, when they believe that they are putting in 4+ hours daily of dedicated study and it really works out to maybe an hour, if they are lucky. Once you deduct all the other time they were spending watching that really good part of that one episode, or tuning into the lyrics and kinda signing along instead of reading... it really does cut down on the bandwidth you have to spend on thinking about the material being studied.

You can't actually multitask. Your attention doesn't really work that way, even if you think it does. At best, you may be acclimated to switching rapidly between tasks. It isn't impossible to succeed doing that. But it is far less efficient than learning to focus in larger and larger chunks on a single task.
I would suggest that most people you describe aren't really attempting to multitask at all - at least the academically successful ones.

This entire response seems to rule out a priori the possibility that a show, album, etc, if sufficiently familiar to the mind of the student, could be functionally interchangeable with white noise.

Why? I don't see any justification for this assumption outside of anecdote and inductive logic.

Let's start at the extreme.

Going from white noise, we can shift over to a completely milquetoast instrumental Latin jazz mix. Pretty tough to argue that you're taking a big productivity hit, right?

Okay, but where along the line from featureless elevator music to (insert high energy, engaging style here) do you draw the line between harmless and distraction? And would you suggest that the line is in nearly the same place for everybody?

Some people work better when they hear a parent or loved one's voice seeping through the walls. Usually it's optimal that the voice is muffled to prevent the distraction of intelligible conversation, obviously. Similarly, many prefer studying in a cafe; for me, the results are better when I'm abroad, granting a language barrier that keeps my mind checked out.

You can replicate this type of detachment pretty well by over-familiarizing yourself with the content. You can preserve the positive association with the sounds or voices without any need to engage them.

To use the other poster's example, if you've seen "scrubs" 10 times already, you're not listening for punchlines when it's running in the background. There are no surprises left. You're eating comfort food. You're getting a light backrub. It requires very little mental commitment at that stage. It's much closer to white noise than it is to anything which actually demands your attention. Same thing for the 50th time you've spun an album.

Yes, it's possible to vastly improve your ability to focus. Not sure why you seem to suggest it's impossible to vastly improve your ability to selectively tune out media like I and others have described.
 
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Is this really what everyone else does? All I do is study the lecture notes/syllabus. I think most of the comments posted are great, but most people don't have the time for doing that much work, so working efficiently has always been really important to me. That's just my $.02

I think the words in bold are an issue. Profs put concepts on tests that were not presented in lecture.
 
I finished undergrad with 1 B (in composition 1 lol) and the rest A's. I took my education very seriously. I knew the opportunities I had been given to pursue an education and did my best (mostly). Begin each class with an understanding of what is required. what will exams/quizzes/HW be over, how will it be graded? If unclear ask the Prof what to expect/ how to study, not all classes are the same. If you get a subpar grade ask how you can improve for next time. Academic excellence is not some secret, it's making mistakes and constant improvements every step of the way. My biggest tool was studying in the library while friends were out partying. But don't go overboard, make time for fun and hanging out, just manage your time well. I still had a life outside of school.

I went to school with people much smarter than me and I worked much harder than they did to achieve this.
 
Record lectures if allowed... You will never be able to get all the information the first time around
Record lectures even if not allowed. What they don't know wont hurt em. I recorded every college and nursing school lecture and in many it wasn't "allowed"
 
Hi everyone,

This semester has probably been the most frustrating on yet. I’ve just been getting one bad grade after another and I’m really close to the breakin point honestly 🙁

The amount of time I’m putting in is not the issue - I believe it just may not be the most effective way?

What are you study techniques (specifically for science course) that help you achieve As on exams?

I’d appreciate any input.
Not a straight A student but I've been getting straight As this year. I would say repetition is key. Since I've experienced both having bad grades and good grades I've witnessed the difference between a good and bad student.

Studying every day in the class you struggle with should help you. Also I can't recommend completely changing your studying routine. Although people might be recommending anki and flash cards, you know how you study best. Think back to a time where you did well in a hard class and study that way just every day not just before an exam.

Study a week in advance before each exam. No exceptions. It's better to study 5 minutes 7 days beforehand than 0 minutes 7 days beforehand and cramming it in the last couple of days.
 
Honestly, I'm not a straight A student, but I've slowly been finding what study method works best. If I can memorize Seinfeld lines like crazy, means I've seen it over and over and over with audio and video, so figured that may be more effective and it was frustrating how I could do that yet can't learn by heart anatomy and forget stuff. Also, the feeling of failing an exam is SO much worse and harder on me than the feeling of acing an exam. I feel like I've been kicked in the stomach. Use that as not so much a motivator, but to not feel the feeling of failing. Hope this helps.
 
I had a 4.0 for 4 semesters taking nothing but 300+-level chemistry, biology, and math courses.

My main motivation was I had to do the best-possible work I could do or else I wouldn't get in. Period. I was in a place where I had a mediocre GPA and no wiggle room left to make huge mistakes to give me a B instead of an A. It was time to grind. I'm going to split this into two different parts: in the classroom and out. Sorry for a wall of text; I have a bit more time on my hands during my elective rotation.

1. Classroom
  • What you need to learn is how you learn the best. People tell me "a lot of people are visual learners." Well, I was one of them. I learned best by putting it in a picture. In science courses, that's easy to do. So I would create ways to make it a visual conception. How do light waves/particles become an electrical signal for your O1 to interpret in a meaningful visual concept? I drew it out. How does Angiotensin II bind to receptors in the BBB to make it more permeable for drugs to cross? I drew that s**t out. Yeah, I could learn by listening to someone explain it or read about it for hours in a textbook. But I knew that drawing it out made the concepts, for the most-part, click. If you know what works best for you, stick with that. Don't be focused on trying to change it up; at this point, if you have a system, keep working with it. If you don't know what is best for you, then go to learning sessions with TA's and work with them. The ones I worked with to help me out knew how to explain it in multiple ways; so if you have a good TA, then they can work with you. At the very least, work with the professor because s/he can help the most. They want to see you succeed and do well in the class.
  • Learn Bloom's Taxonomy of Learning. To avoid another lecture in psychology, I'll just say that the peak of learning is being able to teach someone the concept. My best friend and roommate of 3 years was a music major. As my best friend, he would sit down with me every few days and listen to me teach advanced biochemistry or biological processes in terms that he could understand. It was hard at first, but I was eventually able to put it not only in a way that any average non-bio/premed student could understand, but in terms that interested him. I taught him Type 2 Diabetes in an allegorical way to percussion. Not everyone can have this luxury, I understand that. However, if you can imagine yourself teaching a lecture on these topics and explain, in detail, how [insert topic] works, you have mastered the material needed to make an A in the class.
  • Record your lectures and listen to them after. I know this isn't a novel concept, but you'd be surprised what you can miss in class. I found that, in my chemistry classes, I missed up to 30% of what was said. It answered a lot of questions down the line that I would have while studying. For example, in biochemistry, it allowed me to handle amino acid titrations, biotechnology, and normal human function without any issues. Generally, how I would set up my day with lectures was:
a. 8 am - noon: Class; record lectures, take notes, and ask any immediate questions during/after lecture. 4 classes in the morning only.
b. Noon - 12:30: Eat lunch, unwind, answer emails, go to the library
c. 12:30 - 2 p.m.: Listen to the first 2 lectures and reread my notes I wrote. I would add additional notes I may have missed from writing/typing. Any add'nal questions I would have, I'd email my professor
d. 2 - 3:30 p.m.: Hit the gym. For you, it can be another hobby or some other commitment. Whatever it may be, make sure it gives you something else to focus on.
e. 3:30 - 6 p.m.: This is when I would go into lab and run experiments/help grad students. Some days I got to leave earlier, others I stayed way longer.
f. 6 - 9 p.m.: Listen to other two class lectures and take additional notes. Write questions for the professors if something is still unclear.
Any other time I would dedicate to anything I missed. Taking a lab or working on a project? I'd stay up and finish up whatever I needed.
I do know each day changes, depending on the class and/or other commitments. Which leads to my next point
  • Make a schedule and stick to it. The above example was a rough outline before my semester started and had an idea as to what I needed to do each day and when. Yes, you'll have days where everything is thrown off. You'll have days you're stuck in lab for an extra hour longer than you thought. Your boy/girlfriend will want to go on a date or just ask for your attention. S**t happens. You'll need to be flexible. So what I did was give myself ~4 hours of "free/extra time." This allows you to unwind, do something you like, or be able to dedicate extra time to studies. Some classes will take more than just an hour of additional work. Some classes kick your ass, while others don't really need much attention. Get a feel for each class over the first month or so and make a schedule from there.
  • Stick to your schedule. Period. Yes, I have to reiterate that. No, "you can't make up lost time tomorrow." You cannot buy time back. Once you can hammer down your schedule, then you can fill in that free time to do what you want. I think it's so important to be social and have an escape from studies. It only gets harder from here and college is truly a unique place. So get the most out of it (within reason.)
Outside the classroom
  • There are two situations a person can be in.
  1. They have just started college. They want to make a strong start and keep it going
  2. You didn't perform as well as you wanted to, and you need to prove to yourself and future adcoms you have what it takes (this was me after sophomore year.)
Truly, it doesn't matter which situation you're in; what does matter is that you can show you're ready to take on medical school, residency, and being an attending physician. Here is some tough love you need to read in order to put yourself in the best light possible.
  • Most people that want a 4.0 GPA each semester simply don't put in the work for it. You put in the work for a 2.5 GPA but expect a 4.0. You may put in the work for a 3.0 GPA, but you expect a 4.0 to come outta nowhere. That's bull. If the concepts of finding out why certain electron-withdrawing groups behave the way they do thermodynamically vs. kinetically, then put in the time to understand it. If you just cannot understand the mechanism for protein trafficking via the VEGF pathway, put in the f**king work to understand it. If that means you lose some sleep, then you lose some sleep. If it means you have to be antisocial for a few weekends so you can push yourself from a B to an A in Orgo II, then so be it. If you have to hit up a library on a Saturday night to finish a paper on time, instead of getting drunk at a bar, then that's what you have to do. I know you have weak points and gaps in knowledge in certain aspects, but if you recognize you're more handicapped than Steven Hawking (RIP) in Cell Physiology, then you need to take every advantage you have outside of the classroom to make sure you get an A.
I give a few speeches each semester to a local college's premed interest group as a resident physician. Usually I talk about pitfalls and how one bad year/semester doesn't give you some scarlet F on your chest that every medical school can see. 9/10 times, kids who come to me in this situation all have one thing in common: they don't try hard enough. They don't email professors. They don't ask questions in class. They don't attend study sessions with TA's. My first question, every time, is "how do you spend your free time?" Every time, it's "I study SUPER HARD and it never clicks. I spend 7 hours a night at my desk and just read, read, read." Eventually, when I break down their time actually spent, it's about 25% putting all focus into studying, and 75% bulls**t (FB, TV, drinking, etc.) They act as if there is a mental barrier from 6 p.m. on Friday to Noon on Sunday. They can't learn anything at those times, so they go ahead and party. Every weekend. Before a test. They put in 25% of the work, but expect to be the next shining medical student with 15 acceptances, including Harvard, JHU, and Stanford. Yet I get at least 5 emails from the same kinda people, every year in May, exclaiming they didn't get in anywhere. They have to take an unintended gap year to do something and reapply. Disclaimer: I know every situation is different. I had MDD throughout my first-half of college. Some of you have to work to stay afloat. Others have family/children to take care of. Some situations are unavoidable. I get it. But you need to realize your priorities and make some sacrifices to make it work. Recognize that you can either let life happen to you, or you can take the reigns and let you happen to life.
  • For the love of God, if you have mental health issues (like MDD, ADHD, etc.) get help with it. Unless you're gunning for an HPSP scholarship, it is okay to use adderall/vyvanse/concerta, etc. if it is prescribed to you and you have diagnosed AD(H)D. It doesn't make you weaker, less of a student, or less intelligent to need medication to help you; be-it with SSRI's, SNRI's, Amphetamines, etc. Your mental health is worth investing in.
  • Listen to motivational videos first-thing in the morning, over some coffee/tea. At least 30 minutes of motivational speeches. There are so many videos on YouTube, it's easy to find a playlist and stick to it. Yes, there are some cheesy sayings and it can sound weird. It may not even apply to your specific situation. However, developing the habit to listen to positive affirmations will literally change how you approach life. Listening to the videos becomes a habit. Then, you telling yourself those messages from the videos becomes a habit as well. For me, it greatly helped my issue with depression (along with CBT.) It made my approach to learning 25 credit hours of pure medical science into a fun challenge for me. I have done this for the past 4 years, non-stop, and my outlook at my job and in life has changed. I am so much more caring, able to take my mistakes as a physician, future husband, and friend as a learning opportunity (rather than a failure.) It aided me to get a high pass/honors in every rotation in medical school.
  • Have a support system. Through family, friends, roommates, classmates, or random people on SDN. You are not in this alone and you need a support net that can catch you when you eventually make a mistake. You will bomb a test. You will make a stupid mistake on a quiz. You will forget to turn in homework in on time. Recognize you're human and use that support system to help you move passed it; to help you learn from your mistake without beating yourself up.
 
DISCLAIMER: None of the following counts if you are not working your butt off. People get good grades because they STUDY, not because they sit in a library for 4 hours a day alternating between 20 minutes YouTube, 30 minutes chatting with friends, and 10 minutes glancing at a textbook. I suggest alternating 50 min hardcore studying (no chatting, unless it's related to the material), 10 min break, for however many hours you need to learn the material well.

The first thing to realize is that different strategies work for different people. I personally would take handwritten notes for most lectures, then compile them into a master sheet of key concepts before each exam and memorize that sheet while referring back to my notes, PowerPoints, and textbooks to link the memorized stuff to the broader concepts and knowledge. I rarely use videos or flashcards. However, this method can be very time-consuming if you have a lot of exams at once, and it doesn't work for everyone. I have straight-A friends who watch lots of videos and use flashcards galore, and that works for them. Just try different things.

Doing practice problems is key for ANY course, but especially ones related to math (physics, chemistry, etc). Do any problems the professor provides first, then move on to others if you have time. Pay attention to the exams; after each one, take a moment and ask "How is the professor asking questions? What did I study correctly, and what didn't I?" Write down any notes you can remember to improve your studying skills for that class.

TALK TO YOUR PROFESSOR. I am constantly amazed at the number of people I meet who are failing yet have never spoken face-to-face with the teacher who is failing them. Go talk to your prof, find out why you are doing poorly, and ask them for any tips they might have. At the very least, if there is a major concept that you are stuck on, they might be able to explain it more in-depth than they did in class, allowing you to learn it better.

Finally, make friends with the smart people if you can. I have some of the best grades in my class, and I still spend a lot of time discussing concepts and material with my classmates. It helps me cement that knowledge in my head and point out holes in my understanding. If you are really really struggling, don't be afraid to ask for help from a classmate or school tutor. I help out some of my classmates like this, and I consider it part of my own study time, because the best way to become competent at a subject is to teach it.

Don't let yourself be defined by your grades, either. Be realistic- you're not getting into medical school with a 0.5 GPA- but don't let your grades determine your worth as a person. There are many types of intelligence, most of which are not academic, and you should choose a career that best suits your strengths.
 
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