UNE's NEW Medical Biochemistry Course (Online)?

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Has anyone taken the newest version of this course (formerly Online Distance Medical Biochemistry)? I understand that the format of the course has been changed for those enrolling after May 31st of this year and I would like to hear experiences from those who are currently taking/have taken this new course. Any input is appreciated. Thanks!

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Sorry, I can only comment on the previous one as I took the UNE distance biochem with Dr Yonuschot that was just 1 comprehensive exam for your overall grade.
 
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Sorry, I can only comment on the previous one as I took the UNE distance biochem with Dr Yonuschot that was just 1 comprehensive exam for your overall grade.

Thanks for the input, JDMcNugent, I can't seem to find anyone who has taken the new course. I believe they have implemented a different exam schedule (more than one exam to determine final grades). I am curious how the new course and instructors have worked out for current students. I believe Dr. Y is no longer teaching the course. Anyway, how was your experience overall? Would you recommend the online format to others?
 
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I actually have a friend who I studied with for the mcat who is taking the UNE biochem distance course with the new format. The way the modules are organized seems to be the same as when I took it but there are now module exams/quizzes. The lectures with Dr. Yonuschot was basically him reading from the book with a handful of outside experiences mixed in. I would say that most of it was a "teach yourself" experience (as online courses go) and it required a lot of discipline since you can go at your own pace. It sounds logical but if you have a good foundation in gen bio/gen chem/a little orgo, you will be fine.
 
I have been searching for information as well- I would say that I was told when I called the school that they changed the registration so it does not include the book. The intention of this, so they say, was to encourage students to buy the book ahead of time and start reviewing before the course - or at least that's what they told me when I called to ask a few questions in preparation. I spoke with teacher via email and she states that the objectives for the first few chapters are similar, however thereafter they are different and the course is largely focused around the objectives. Other than that, I would still love to hear from anyone what the class is like who has experienced it.
 
I have been searching for information as well- I would say that I was told when I called the school that they changed the registration so it does not include the book. The intention of this, so they say, was to encourage students to buy the book ahead of time and start reviewing before the course - or at least that's what they told me when I called to ask a few questions in preparation. I spoke with teacher via email and she states that the objectives for the first few chapters are similar, however thereafter they are different and the course is largely focused around the objectives. Other than that, I would still love to hear from anyone what the class is like who has experienced it.

Thanks for the info breezyb27. I really hope a few students who have recently completed/are currently taking the course will chime in.

For what it's worth, I did find this www.ratemyprofessors.com comment which seems to reference UNE's CHEM 1005, which is the new online Medical Biochemistry course: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1605784

Overall, the consensus seems to be that the course is pretty intensive, but of quality and manageable for students who commit the required time/effort.
 
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I have been looking for info on the new class as well. Consensus seems to be that the new course is 100X harder then it used to be and no breeze. one of the comments i got back on a different thread was that this biochem course was the hardest course one of the posters has had in his educational career soooo idk how to take that but definitely looking to hear more imput from others taking the course
 
I have been looking for info on the new class as well. Consensus seems to be that the new course is 100X harder then it used to be and no breeze. one of the comments i got back on a different thread was that this biochem course was the hardest course one of the posters has had in his educational career soooo idk how to take that but definitely looking to hear more imput from others taking the course
Well that kind of scares me a bit...

I plan on starting this course in the next couple weeks. Anyone else currently taking it or planning on taking it?
 
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I think hard is good. I'm simply taking it for a foundation and grade doesn't really matter (C or better).
 
I am currently taking the new une online biochem class and I honestly hate it! It is basically a teach yourself class, the required "closed book" quizzes can be hard but not impossible but the actual exams are extremely difficult. I personally don't feel that the material covered in the course notes or lectures are highlighted at all in the exams. Some of the questions come out of left field, so to speak. Basically impossible! There are 2 which are closed booked proctored and the other 2 are "closed book" not proctored. I say if you get a B or above in that class your lucky. The lecture notes and actual recordings are not really helpful. I'm halfway through and my suggestion is to read the required text real carefully and outline the assigned chapters. This is all just my opinion though. I'd like to know what others currently taking the class think.
 
I am currently taking the new une online biochem class and I honestly hate it! It is basically a teach yourself class, the required "closed book" quizzes can be hard but not impossible but the actual exams are extremely difficult. I personally don't feel that the material covered in the course notes or lectures are highlighted at all in the exams. Some of the questions come out of left field, so to speak. Basically impossible! There are 2 which are closed booked proctored and the other 2 are "closed book" not proctored. I say if you get a B or above in that class your lucky. The lecture notes and actual recordings are not really helpful. I'm halfway through and my suggestion is to read the required text real carefully and outline the assigned chapters. This is all just my opinion though. I'd like to know what others currently taking the class think.

The combination of an expensive course and basically teaching yourself everything are the reasons I decided against taking this course online. I would expect a $1,000+ course to include actual recorded lectures and the tests to reflect what is being taught. Once they have your money and you need the class to matriculate into medical school, there isn't much you can do. My school doesn't require biochem, but I basically have no bio background so I decided I needed to do something. I found a DVD course through University of Nevada Medical School that includes a whole series of first year biochemistry lectures along with diagrams and flow charts to help study for $142. I thought this would actually be better since it is from a medical school and I won't be wasting time learning regular biochemistry which may include topics I don't need to know. Saving $900+ doesn't hurt anything either. Sorry to hear your not satisfied with the class.
 
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That dvd sounds really good. I'll probably look into that. Might use it as a study aid. Thanks!


The combination of an expensive course and basically teaching yourself everything are the reasons I decided against taking this course online. I would expect a $1,000+ course to include actual recorded lectures and the tests to reflect what is being taught. Once they have your money and you need the class to matriculate into medical school, there isn't much you can do. My school doesn't require biochem, but I basically have no bio background so I decided I needed to do something. I found a DVD course through University of Nevada Medical School that includes a whole series of first year biochemistry lectures along with diagrams and flow charts to help study. I thought this would actually be better since it is from a medical school and I won't be wasting time learning regular biochemistry which may include topics I don't need to know. Saving $900+ doesn't hurt anything either. Sorry to hear your not satisfied with the class.
 
That dvd sounds really good. I'll probably look into that. Might use it as a study aid. Thanks!

I forgot to mention it costs $142 (including shipping).
 
Did they raise the price to $1225 recently? I swear it was $1025 a couple weeks ago.
 
Hello everyone. I am currently taking the UNE biochemistry class and am about 2/3s the way through. I feel I have a good understanding of this course as I have taken both exam 1 and exam 2 which was proctored. Honestly, I would not recommend this class to others, especially those of you in which this is a required prereq and your grade will be considered for entry into any type of masters program or medical school. I also would not recommend this course if you are working, have a family, or have other prior commitments that are quite demanding. I wish I had this information up front to have made an informed decision so hopefully this will help many of you! I currently have an A in this course, and will continue to put in the effort to hopefully retain my A however it has taken everything I have to do well in this course including studying approximately 5-6 hours a day, including weekends, and for the proctored exam I studied a total of 30 hours in three days. I am not brilliant when it comes to science however I do have a strong work ethic and am reasonably intelligent, overall A student. Also, I wouldn't tackle this class unless you have a strong background in chemistry and biology, be prepared to teach yourself.

Class structure: You will go over a total of approximately 40 chapters in this class and to be successful and answer the exam questions, I HIGHLY recommend you read them. There are a total of 4 Units each broken up into multiple modules, total of 16 modules. Each module contains recorded lectures and several chapters of reading. After you complete a module there is a quiz, total of 16 throughout the course. There are also four total exams, 2 of which are not proctored and 2, midterm and final, are proctored as well as these two are cumulative. Roughly 10-15% of old material will be on these exams although the new material will predominate.

Challenges: The recorded lectures and associated notes are a good place to start to learn the material and would recommend listening to them first however I have found the book and self teaching to be the main channels to learn this material. The recorded lectures, which there can be a few in each module, on average are 20 minutes each. However, many of times you only have a diagram and she will lecture sometimes 3 minutes on one slide so you are consistently rewinding and writing what she says as the diagram isn't enough by any means to under the concepts. On average, a 15 minute lecture will take me an 1 -1.5 hours to get through. I can say however I am very detailed and you might not feel compelled to write down everything or you may not need too. She will also sometimes refer to enzymes or other biochemical components that you have never heard of and are not on the slide so you left trying to search in the book or depend on your reading to understand what she was talking about. You can tell she put forth the effort to try to make the lectures understandable and easier to understand and now that I am over half way through the course I am catching on to her teaching style however it was brutal at the beginning and still brutal now to get through the lectures. Very time consuming without even reading the book yet.

To do well on the proctored exams you have to KNOW the material backwards and forwards and understand how everything ties together. You can get a C with straight memorization but to make an A or B on the exams, you have to have a deeper, more comprehensive understanding of the material. The quizzes are much easier than the actual exam and I found the mid term to be more difficult than the first exam. As previously mentioned, you are tested over an ABUNDANCE of material, 1st test is over 16 chapters, and there are only 30 questions so you have to study so much material and you don't know where to focus your time or energy. This is one of the MOST frustrating parts of this course, so much material, little focus on what is most important, and few practice questions to truly understand the type of questions on the exam.

Positive Thoughts: This class has challenged me more than any other class I have ever taken and I have learned SO MUCH, however this is because this is the only class I am taking (so I have the time) and I have SELF TAUGHT myself through reading the book and really wanting to understand this material as it is essential to the program I am trying to get into. I don't hate biochemistry but this class has had me in tears a time or two because it honestly is TOO MUCH information and too detailed for the normal student without the sacrifice of many other priorities in your life. You can get an A or B but be prepared to work your butt off and don't underestimate this class. Give it the time it deserves, if you do, you will be forced into learning a great deal.

The teacher is really nice and super responsive and wants to help you but overall the class structure and amount of material is not conducive to success. Unless you have the time, patience, and determination to really want to succeed in this class, I would recommend looking elsewhere. Overall I don't think I will regret taking this class because I will be extremely prepared for my graduate program and I do not believe I will ever take a class as challenging as this one. However, if I was working, had children, or any other priorities I would have been forced to take it elsewhere as I could not have been successful in this course. Good luck and hope this helps!
 
Hello everyone. I am currently taking the UNE biochemistry class and am about 2/3s the way through. I feel I have a good understanding of this course as I have taken both exam 1 and exam 2 which was proctored. Honestly, I would not recommend this class to others, especially those of you in which this is a required prereq and your grade will be considered for entry into any type of masters program or medical school. I also would not recommend this course if you are working, have a family, or have other prior commitments that are quite demanding. I wish I had this information up front to have made an informed decision so hopefully this will help many of you! I currently have an A in this course, and will continue to put in the effort to hopefully retain my A however it has taken everything I have to do well in this course including studying approximately 5-6 hours a day, including weekends, and for the proctored exam I studied a total of 30 hours in three days. I am not brilliant when it comes to science however I do have a strong work ethic and am reasonably intelligent, overall A student. Also, I wouldn't tackle this class unless you have a strong background in chemistry and biology, be prepared to teach yourself.

Class structure: You will go over a total of approximately 40 chapters in this class and to be successful and answer the exam questions, I HIGHLY recommend you read them. There are a total of 4 Units each broken up into multiple modules, total of 16 modules. Each module contains recorded lectures and several chapters of reading. After you complete a module there is a quiz, total of 16 throughout the course. There are also four total exams, 2 of which are not proctored and 2, midterm and final, are proctored as well as these two are cumulative. Roughly 10-15% of old material will be on these exams although the new material will predominate.

Challenges: The recorded lectures and associated notes are a good place to start to learn the material and would recommend listening to them first however I have found the book and self teaching to be the main channels to learn this material. The recorded lectures, which there can be a few in each module, on average are 20 minutes each. However, many of times you only have a diagram and she will lecture sometimes 3 minutes on one slide so you are consistently rewinding and writing what she says as the diagram isn't enough by any means to under the concepts. On average, a 15 minute lecture will take me an 1 -1.5 hours to get through. I can say however I am very detailed and you might not feel compelled to write down everything or you may not need too. She will also sometimes refer to enzymes or other biochemical components that you have never heard of and are not on the slide so you left trying to search in the book or depend on your reading to understand what she was talking about. You can tell she put forth the effort to try to make the lectures understandable and easier to understand and now that I am over half way through the course I am catching on to her teaching style however it was brutal at the beginning and still brutal now to get through the lectures. Very time consuming without even reading the book yet.

To do well on the proctored exams you have to KNOW the material backwards and forwards and understand how everything ties together. You can get a C with straight memorization but to make an A or B on the exams, you have to have a deeper, more comprehensive understanding of the material. The quizzes are much easier than the actual exam and I found the mid term to be more difficult than the first exam. As previously mentioned, you are tested over an ABUNDANCE of material, 1st test is over 16 chapters, and there are only 30 questions so you have to study so much material and you don't know where to focus your time or energy. This is one of the MOST frustrating parts of this course, so much material, little focus on what is most important, and few practice questions to truly understand the type of questions on the exam.

Positive Thoughts: This class has challenged me more than any other class I have ever taken and I have learned SO MUCH, however this is because this is the only class I am taking (so I have the time) and I have SELF TAUGHT myself through reading the book and really wanting to understand this material as it is essential to the program I am trying to get into. I don't hate biochemistry but this class has had me in tears a time or two because it honestly is TOO MUCH information and too detailed for the normal student without the sacrifice of many other priorities in your life. You can get an A or B but be prepared to work your butt off and don't underestimate this class. Give it the time it deserves, if you do, you will be forced into learning a great deal.

The teacher is really nice and super responsive and wants to help you but overall the class structure and amount of material is not conducive to success. Unless you have the time, patience, and determination to really want to succeed in this class, I would recommend looking elsewhere. Overall I don't think I will regret taking this class because I will be extremely prepared for my graduate program and I do not believe I will ever take a class as challenging as this one. However, if I was working, had children, or any other priorities I would have been forced to take it elsewhere as I could not have been successful in this course. Good luck and hope this helps!

Thanks for this review! I was going to take this course, but I'm not so sure anymore...can I ask what your professor's name was?
 
Same here... now I'm a little nervous. I planned to start this online course over winter break to give myself 100% focus on it before classes start at school end of January (it said "enroll anytime") however, they have no course availability for this time period and the next class doesn't start until Feb 5th. I've agreed to take the online biochem thus far and have registered, but haven't paid for it yet. I'm also not too sure what to think after reading these reviews. I'll be enrolled in 13.5 credits of upper level sciences at school plus this online biochem?! I have the book already and have previewed it (which didn't look too bad to me) but I'm wondering if I'm taking on too much here. I planned to get it done now though so I can take my other Orgo class during summer session 1 and the MCAT end of June, hmmmmm...
 
Yea im really nervous about this now too. Im starting Unecom in august and need this to start. Im worrying its really that hard. yet im also not sure what other online biochem classes there are that fit the requirement. Ugh this classed supposedly used to be really easy up until it changed.
 
for the class it says theres two different professors one is renee leclair the other is doug spicer, does anyone know if one is maybe better then the other
 
Hello everyone. I am currently taking the UNE biochemistry class and am about 2/3s the way through. I feel I have a good understanding of this course as I have taken both exam 1 and exam 2 which was proctored. Honestly, I would not recommend this class to others, especially those of you in which this is a required prereq and your grade will be considered for entry into any type of masters program or medical school. I also would not recommend this course if you are working, have a family, or have other prior commitments that are quite demanding. I wish I had this information up front to have made an informed decision so hopefully this will help many of you! I currently have an A in this course, and will continue to put in the effort to hopefully retain my A however it has taken everything I have to do well in this course including studying approximately 5-6 hours a day, including weekends, and for the proctored exam I studied a total of 30 hours in three days. I am not brilliant when it comes to science however I do have a strong work ethic and am reasonably intelligent, overall A student. Also, I wouldn't tackle this class unless you have a strong background in chemistry and biology, be prepared to teach yourself.

Class structure: You will go over a total of approximately 40 chapters in this class and to be successful and answer the exam questions, I HIGHLY recommend you read them. There are a total of 4 Units each broken up into multiple modules, total of 16 modules. Each module contains recorded lectures and several chapters of reading. After you complete a module there is a quiz, total of 16 throughout the course. There are also four total exams, 2 of which are not proctored and 2, midterm and final, are proctored as well as these two are cumulative. Roughly 10-15% of old material will be on these exams although the new material will predominate.

Challenges: The recorded lectures and associated notes are a good place to start to learn the material and would recommend listening to them first however I have found the book and self teaching to be the main channels to learn this material. The recorded lectures, which there can be a few in each module, on average are 20 minutes each. However, many of times you only have a diagram and she will lecture sometimes 3 minutes on one slide so you are consistently rewinding and writing what she says as the diagram isn't enough by any means to under the concepts. On average, a 15 minute lecture will take me an 1 -1.5 hours to get through. I can say however I am very detailed and you might not feel compelled to write down everything or you may not need too. She will also sometimes refer to enzymes or other biochemical components that you have never heard of and are not on the slide so you left trying to search in the book or depend on your reading to understand what she was talking about. You can tell she put forth the effort to try to make the lectures understandable and easier to understand and now that I am over half way through the course I am catching on to her teaching style however it was brutal at the beginning and still brutal now to get through the lectures. Very time consuming without even reading the book yet.

To do well on the proctored exams you have to KNOW the material backwards and forwards and understand how everything ties together. You can get a C with straight memorization but to make an A or B on the exams, you have to have a deeper, more comprehensive understanding of the material. The quizzes are much easier than the actual exam and I found the mid term to be more difficult than the first exam. As previously mentioned, you are tested over an ABUNDANCE of material, 1st test is over 16 chapters, and there are only 30 questions so you have to study so much material and you don't know where to focus your time or energy. This is one of the MOST frustrating parts of this course, so much material, little focus on what is most important, and few practice questions to truly understand the type of questions on the exam.

Positive Thoughts: This class has challenged me more than any other class I have ever taken and I have learned SO MUCH, however this is because this is the only class I am taking (so I have the time) and I have SELF TAUGHT myself through reading the book and really wanting to understand this material as it is essential to the program I am trying to get into. I don't hate biochemistry but this class has had me in tears a time or two because it honestly is TOO MUCH information and too detailed for the normal student without the sacrifice of many other priorities in your life. You can get an A or B but be prepared to work your butt off and don't underestimate this class. Give it the time it deserves, if you do, you will be forced into learning a great deal.

The teacher is really nice and super responsive and wants to help you but overall the class structure and amount of material is not conducive to success. Unless you have the time, patience, and determination to really want to succeed in this class, I would recommend looking elsewhere. Overall I don't think I will regret taking this class because I will be extremely prepared for my graduate program and I do not believe I will ever take a class as challenging as this one. However, if I was working, had children, or any other priorities I would have been forced to take it elsewhere as I could not have been successful in this course. Good luck and hope this helps!
Man after reading this I don't know what I should do. I have 12 credits at my school this semester plus this biochem class so I hope I'll be able to hack it. If it wasn't a prereq for the schools I want to go to I would just say forget it, but oh well...
 
Hi all, I just wanted to be upfront and honest and this is my personal opinion and I too am curious as to what other students think of this course. I went into this class wanting an A so I have been putting forth the time to make an A. If you are okay with a C or B this class might not be as challenging for you however it is covering roughly 40 chapters no matter what, so I would keep that in mind. I had to read to understand the material however I am sure some students are able to get by with just listening to the lectures.

I was told UC Berkeley also has an online biochem class and I took organic chemistry from them online and it was tough but doable and I also heard the professor was good for the biochem course. However, I had already signed up for this class as it was recommended by my graduate program. I have no doubt this class will make my graduate level work easier. I would suggest looking into Berkeley and weighing the pros and cons depending on your workload. If you have the time, as previously mentioned, you will learn a lot and the professor is very helpful.
 
Hi all, I just wanted to be upfront and honest and this is my personal opinion and I too am curious as to what other students think of this course. I went into this class wanting an A so I have been putting forth the time to make an A. If you are okay with a C or B this class might not be as challenging for you however it is covering roughly 40 chapters no matter what, so I would keep that in mind. I had to read to understand the material however I am sure some students are able to get by with just listening to the lectures.

I was told UC Berkeley also has an online biochem class and I took organic chemistry from them online and it was tough but doable and I also heard the professor was good for the biochem course. However, I had already signed up for this class as it was recommended by my graduate program. I have no doubt this class will make my graduate level work easier. I would suggest looking into Berkeley and weighing the pros and cons depending on your workload. If you have the time, as previously mentioned, you will learn a lot and the professor is very helpful.
Do you know anything about the other professor? Spicer I think is his name. Since it's an online course it probably doesn't make much of a difference, but I'm taking it from him so I thought I would ask. Also did you find the book to be helpful and/or well written? Since it is so many chapters a good book can make a world of difference. I'm hoping that because it is tough it will force me to study the material more than I would if I was in the easier class that it used to be.
 
No, I do not know much about the other professor unfortunately. In my opinion, what makes the UNE class tough is the amount of material and how detailed some of the questions are on the test. It isn't impossible but takes a lot of commitment. What I was told, cant confirm this, is the class went over approx. 20 chapters before the change in May in which now it goes over 40 chapters. If this class was only over 20 chapters and had the same type of questions as it does now, it would be much more doable and yet still challenging. The professor is good at UNE, I have no issues with her at all and I have found her to be very helpful. I am sure Spicer is the same.

Not sure if you have already committed yourself to this course, however, my suggestion would be to ask for the syllabus from both schools and compare them. The book that UNE requires is a great book and it makes the material as easy as possible to understand as well as I like the fact that UNE's class is a medial biochemistry course so I find it interesting. The book will be a great reference for in the future as well. I don't have any regrets as I will be leaving this class learning a great deal but it has definitely been challenging and at times just too much, burns you out if you really take the time to learn it. I also had the time and few commitments when taking this course. If I had commitments such as a full load of school or a family, I would have regretted taking it as I know I couldn't have been as successful as I wanted to be.
 
I thought I decided on this UNE class for sure last month, but since I haven't paid for it, I've also looking at other options like Berkley Extension & Michigan State's biochem course. I have both these books in my possession already and skimming through them, the UNE book looks much more interesting since its medically-related. I'm thinking if it is medically-related, I personally would be a lot more interested in the subject matter instead of just straight up biochemistry. Ther other book used at Michigan State is 1224 pages of dry dry dry material in my opinion. Either way, I need to a biochem course soon since I'm applying to med schools this June and taking the MCAT June 21st!! Yikes!

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Also, is this the Berkley course?
http://extension.berkeley.edu/search/publicCourseSearchDetails.do?method=load&courseId=41566

It says this is the only online one and its titled "Introductory Biochem" where organic chem is a strong prerequisite recommendation. The other course taught in person is "Biochemistry" which definitely has organic chem as a prerequisite. Would this introductory one suffice I wonder? I'm thinking this one doesn't count though since its intro only and organic chem is not a definite prerequisite for the online version....
 
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Now there's a 3rd teacher as well its leclaire, spicer and thompson. Anyone have either of the last two maybe they're a little better
 
Renee LeClair - chair of the dept I believe. Heard mixed reviews, helpful but harsh grader.
Doug Spicer - older gentleman, seems to know his stuff/may be more difficult.
Karen Thompson - background in nutrition. I chose her because I have a strong background in nutrition too and was hoping her biochem would be more nutritionally based emphasizing metabolism. glycolysis, etc...
 
I am taking it right now. Incredibly difficult course, but great preparation for med school no doubt. The quizzes are somewhat difficult, but doable if you really study the material. I'm having a bit of trouble with the lopsided format of the course, personally. The first half of the course is ten units, while the last half of the course is six units. The recommended pace is one week per unit (with ZERO weeks between units to study for the tests, lol), and is about how fast I've been going. Trouble is, the second half of the course is worth just as much of your grade as the first, but you have less time overall to study for it. There IS less material for the same percentage of your grade, however, so I guess that could be considered a plus. Expect to learn everything from RBC metabolism to the TCA cycle to fatty acid breakdown and synthesis, the major enzymes and pathways of metabolism, etc etc etc. It's a full biochem course, and I don't know how anyone could pass it with greater than a C in 16 weeks if they were taking other courses at the same time. They are generous with extensions on the time limit, but only grant you one extension, so use it -wisely-. Online midterm and final are proctored via webcam, so make sure you have a decent one and a clear workspace ready for your exams. I am not yet done with the course, I'll drop an update when I finish to give some final impressions, as well as a much more in-depth analysis of the material, strengths, and weaknesses of the course.
 
Do you have leclaire, what do you think of her teaching
 
And does anyone know anything more about kathryn thompson, im stuck trying to make a decision whether to take it with leclaire or thompson. any advice would be amazing
 
I finished this class recently. IT IS HORRIBLE. DO NOT TAKE! I am an "A" student and managed a B and it almost killed me. It took me 3 weeks to recover physically. I lost my love of life. I was taking other classes, but have taken multiple difficult science classes. This one was the worst BY FAR. You will not have a choice of leclaire or thompson, as far as I know. I believe the online course is only taught by leclaire. Everything is pre-recorded, so I believe the other instructors you're seeing are those who are in the department and may teach it on the campus. LeClaire is personally nice and responsive to inquiries and such. But you really do feel you are all alone in the world with this material. There is no class forum or interaction with anyone unless you send out a blanket email to the class to see if anyone else is losing their mind. I agree 100% with comments from wnj33 above. It takes everything you've got. There is also a course at University of Iowa, I understand. I do NOT agree that this class is great preparation for other classes. Great preparation would come from a passionate instructor who injected interesting correlations, connections, or creativity into the lectures. Great preparation would be in the form of smaller chunks that allowed you to use the material in an applied way. This is just brutal. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
 
I am taking it right now. Incredibly difficult course, but great preparation for med school no doubt. The quizzes are somewhat difficult, but doable if you really study the material. I'm having a bit of trouble with the lopsided format of the course, personally. The first half of the course is ten units, while the last half of the course is six units. The recommended pace is one week per unit (with ZERO weeks between units to study for the tests, lol), and is about how fast I've been going. Trouble is, the second half of the course is worth just as much of your grade as the first, but you have less time overall to study for it. There IS less material for the same percentage of your grade, however, so I guess that could be considered a plus. Expect to learn everything from RBC metabolism to the TCA cycle to fatty acid breakdown and synthesis, the major enzymes and pathways of metabolism, etc etc etc. It's a full biochem course, and I don't know how anyone could pass it with greater than a C in 16 weeks if they were taking other courses at the same time. They are generous with extensions on the time limit, but only grant you one extension, so use it -wisely-. Online midterm and final are proctored via webcam, so make sure you have a decent one and a clear workspace ready for your exams. I am not yet done with the course, I'll drop an update when I finish to give some final impressions, as well as a much more in-depth analysis of the material, strengths, and weaknesses of the course.


Hey mad Jack, was wondering if you could give that more indepth analysis. I know a bunch of us are planning to take it february 5th and we have about a week to see if this really is the class we have to take unless we find a better class elsewhere. thanks
 
Hey mad Jack, was wondering if you could give that more indepth analysis. I know a bunch of us are planning to take it february 5th and we have about a week to see if this really is the class we have to take unless we find a better class elsewhere. thanks
I would like this as well.

I decided to go ahead and do this class anyway because I don't have much of a choice (decided to take it from Spicer). I'm a good student so I hope that I'll be ok, and luckily I just need to pass, so I don't really care if I don't get an A. I started reading the text already to try and get a head start, so we'll see how it goes.
 
Hey mad Jack, was wondering if you could give that more indepth analysis. I know a bunch of us are planning to take it february 5th and we have about a week to see if this really is the class we have to take unless we find a better class elsewhere. thanks
Alright, here goes. Keep in mind I'm just one guy and this is merely my anecdotal view of the course.

The first unit is brutal, long, painful, and contains so much material it left me struggling. It covers 16 chapters of reading material, on everything from acids, bases, and buffers, to the structure of DNA and its synthesis, to amino acids and protein synthesis. Since I'd been out of school for quite some time at this point, I found myself completely overwhelmed by the volume of material to be covered in the six weeks allotted for the unit (there are 16 units, so you have to finish each unit in just under a week in order to have time to also have time to study for the unit tests). Looking back, if I had used the study guide for unit one and reviewed all of the module quizzes I probably would have been fine, but I went totally overboard and reread most of the chapters and watched all of the lectures again for good measure. Save yourself some time by printing out the study guide and writing out an elaboration or explanation of every bullet point on it, retake each quiz until you know them by heart, and do all of the in-book end of chapter quizzes and you should be fine. Oh, she also focused pretty heavily on the diseases mentioned throughout the chapters, so make sure to focus on those as well. I would also do a marathon session in which you rewatch all of the lectures prior to taking the exam, as it will significantly improve your ability to choose the right answers quickly (not that speed is really an issue- you are given more than enough time to complete the exam in my opinion) which gives you time to double-check everything before you submit.

The second unit was still difficult, but much less so than the first. It covers 9 chapters of material in 4 weeks, a far more manageable number. Again, if you study the study guide thoroughly and write out the answers to every problem list every pathway noted, do all of the end of chapter and module quizzes until you know them better than you know your own family, and do a marathon session in which you re-watch the lectures prior to the test, you should be fine. Test 2 is the proctored one, which was really easy to set up and use. You just connect to ProctorU via webcam, they ask you to show them your room and workspace real quick via the webcam and a mirror to make sure it is all clear of study materials, and then you are good to go. You have to sign up a week in advance, but it's really easy to move so long as you do it in a timely fashion, and allows you to schedule for basically any time of day.

I'm almost done with unit 3, which is even easier than the previous 2 so far, and covers 7 chapters of material in 3 weeks. Either the questions have gotten easier as the course has moved along, or I have adjusted to her teaching and testing style and it just feels easier. In any case, modules 11 and 12 were cake, though module 13 looks pretty hefty (covers 4 of the 7 chapters and deals with gluconeogenesis and blood glucose maintenance). I haven't done unit 4 yet, but it looks pretty chill, covering 6 chapters in 3 weeks, with another proctored exam at the end. Overall, I'd say the course started out feeling 9/10 on the difficulty scale, but now feels more like a 4/10. You should easily get a passing grade if you apply yourself (C or better), and if you put in some work, a B or low A is totally possible. Just make sure you have the time to read the book- she pulls a lot of questions about diseases from the book, while only brushing over them in lecture- and use her provided study guides. Also, each of the 16 modules has about an hour of lectures you must watch. The best way to fill out the study guides is to watch her lectures a second time, following along with the guide and filling it in every time she goes over one of its points. Oh, and UNE is very lax about the extensions, so if you need an extra 10-16 weeks, they'll give it to you. But you only get ONE extension, if you aren't complete by your final extension deadline, you fail the course, so just ask for the longest extension they will give you right out if you need one. You will learn a lot from this course, but it will require a lot of time and effort, so be ready to apply yourself and hit the books pretty regularly.

I have Prof. LeClair, who I have heard is quite accessible if you need to contact her.

I would recommend the course to those that have time to invest in it, but to those with a course schedule already full with science courses, I would be careful. Perhaps a person taking a full course load could complete the course with an extension over 26-32 weeks, but it's just too time intensive to complete on the regular 16 week timetable if you're really busy to begin with IMO. Good luck to you all.
 
I would like this as well.

I decided to go ahead and do this class anyway because I don't have much of a choice (decided to take it from Spicer). I'm a good student so I hope that I'll be ok, and luckily I just need to pass, so I don't really care if I don't get an A. I started reading the text already to try and get a head start, so we'll see how it goes.
If you've got the time to invest, you'll do fine. Just don't get discouraged by the first unit, it's a bitch and is not representative of the rest of the course at all.
 
Alright, here goes. Keep in mind I'm just one guy and this is merely my anecdotal view of the course.

The first unit is brutal, long, painful, and contains so much material it left me struggling. It covers 16 chapters of reading material, on everything from acids, bases, and buffers, to the structure of DNA and its synthesis, to amino acids and protein synthesis. Since I'd been out of school for quite some time at this point, I found myself completely overwhelmed by the volume of material to be covered in the six weeks allotted for the unit (there are 16 units, so you have to finish each unit in just under a week in order to have time to also have time to study for the unit tests). Looking back, if I had used the study guide for unit one and reviewed all of the module quizzes I probably would have been fine, but I went totally overboard and reread most of the chapters and watched all of the lectures again for good measure. Save yourself some time by printing out the study guide and writing out an elaboration or explanation of every bullet point on it, retake each quiz until you know them by heart, and do all of the in-book end of chapter quizzes and you should be fine. Oh, she also focused pretty heavily on the diseases mentioned throughout the chapters, so make sure to focus on those as well. I would also do a marathon session in which you rewatch all of the lectures prior to taking the exam, as it will significantly improve your ability to choose the right answers quickly (not that speed is really an issue- you are given more than enough time to complete the exam in my opinion) which gives you time to double-check everything before you submit.

The second unit was still difficult, but much less so than the first. It covers 9 chapters of material in 4 weeks, a far more manageable number. Again, if you study the study guide thoroughly and write out the answers to every problem list every pathway noted, do all of the end of chapter and module quizzes until you know them better than you know your own family, and do a marathon session in which you re-watch the lectures prior to the test, you should be fine. Test 2 is the proctored one, which was really easy to set up and use. You just connect to ProctorU via webcam, they ask you to show them your room and workspace real quick via the webcam and a mirror to make sure it is all clear of study materials, and then you are good to go. You have to sign up a week in advance, but it's really easy to move so long as you do it in a timely fashion, and allows you to schedule for basically any time of day.

I'm almost done with unit 3, which is even easier than the previous 2 so far, and covers 7 chapters of material in 3 weeks. Either the questions have gotten easier as the course has moved along, or I have adjusted to her teaching and testing style and it just feels easier. In any case, modules 11 and 12 were cake, though module 13 looks pretty hefty (covers 4 of the 7 chapters and deals with gluconeogenesis and blood glucose maintenance). I haven't done unit 4 yet, but it looks pretty chill, covering 6 chapters in 3 weeks, with another proctored exam at the end. Overall, I'd say the course started out feeling 9/10 on the difficulty scale, but now feels more like a 4/10. You should easily get a passing grade if you apply yourself (C or better), and if you put in some work, a B or low A is totally possible. Just make sure you have the time to read the book- she pulls a lot of questions about diseases from the book, while only brushing over them in lecture- and use her provided study guides. Also, each of the 16 modules has about an hour of lectures you must watch. The best way to fill out the study guides is to watch her lectures a second time, following along with the guide and filling it in every time she goes over one of its points. Oh, and UNE is very lax about the extensions, so if you need an extra 10-16 weeks, they'll give it to you. But you only get ONE extension, if you aren't complete by your final extension deadline, you fail the course, so just ask for the longest extension they will give you right out if you need one. You will learn a lot from this course, but it will require a lot of time and effort, so be ready to apply yourself and hit the books pretty regularly.

I have Prof. LeClair, who I have heard is quite accessible if you need to contact her.

I would recommend the course to those that have time to invest in it, but to those with a course schedule already full with science courses, I would be careful. Perhaps a person taking a full course load could complete the course with an extension over 26-32 weeks, but it's just too time intensive to complete on the regular 16 week timetable if you're really busy to begin with IMO. Good luck to you all.


Thank you for this very detailed and informative post. 🙂
 
Are any of you that are planning on taking this course already accepted? Just curious because many of the schools want final transcripts by July 1st, and just wondering if I start on Feb 5th if I'll have my final grade in time?

Those of you starting on Feb 5th have you paid already?
 
Are any of you that are planning on taking this course already accepted? Just curious because many of the schools want final transcripts by July 1st, and just wondering if I start on Feb 5th if I'll have my final grade in time?

Those of you starting on Feb 5th have you paid already?
The Feb. 5th section I signed up for finishes near the end of May, so I hope the transcript thing isn't an issue. I haven't paid yet, I need to do that...
 
Im paying for it right now, and am taking the feb 5th class and am accepted. I spoke with admissions and they said this is fine
 
In all reality it doesn't matter which teacher u sign up with when you register because it is a self teach type of class and the lecturs are all pre recorded by LeClaire anyway. When I registered my teacher was LeClaire but I mostly talk to Spicer because his responses r a little kinder 🙂 and he does responds quicker. Almost everything is automatically graded so that's not really an issue.

I keep in touch with my fellow classmates and on occasion the various professors through blackboard message and I find it helps.
 
Just starting this class today. Anyone else with me?

Please keep udating on how the course is going for you! I'm contemplating taking it, but the longer, thoughtful review about scared me. Would love you hear your opinion as well!
 
question for anyone taking the class right now with me or anyone who took it in the past. For example while doing module 1 session one it says text book reading Chapter 6 Sections I II and IV. I would assume reading those is whats being asked yet then when you go to do the premodule quiz 25% the answers cant be answered because they're from sections not even being asked to be read. For example the 2 hemoglobin questions have no information anywhere except for in Chapter 6 section VII and VIII. either im way off here or is anyone else having the same problem.
 
Please keep udating on how the course is going for you! I'm contemplating taking it, but the longer, thoughtful review about scared me. Would love you hear your opinion as well!
I'm not even a week into it yet, but I really like it so far. fwiw I ran into a friend of mine who is about halfway through the course and the review he gave me was a bit different from the ones above. He said this course is 100% doable, and he's really enjoyed everything about it. Just like anything else, you put the time into and you'll be fine. It also helps that I only need a C, and their grade scale is a little more forgiving (a C is 68%).

question for anyone taking the class right now with me or anyone who took it in the past. For example while doing module 1 session one it says text book reading Chapter 6 Sections I II and IV. I would assume reading those is whats being asked yet then when you go to do the premodule quiz 25% the answers cant be answered because they're from sections not even being asked to be read. For example the 2 hemoglobin questions have no information anywhere except for in Chapter 6 section VII and VIII. either im way off here or is anyone else having the same problem.
I didn't even notice that they put the sections of the book they were covering, I just assumed it was the whole chapter. The chapters are only like 20-30 pages, so just suck it up and read the whole thing, the extra content (I imagine) helps tie everything together and will help in med school.
 
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