University of Toronto Application Thread

[iicecream]

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oh gosh. my pcat and gpa are almost the same as beginners!
I'm a bit scared too...my interview seemed alright. not too bad but i dont think very good either. D:

Congrats to helloeveryone, mochaswirl, 1live2die, pharmacist1 and all other applicants on getting into UW!! 😀😀

 

[PhArMaCiSt1]

oh gosh. my pcat and gpa are almost the same as beginners!
I'm a bit scared too...my interview seemed alright. not too bad but i dont think very good either. D:

Congrats to helloeveryone, mochaswirl, 1live2die, pharmacist1 and all other applicants on getting into UW!! 😀😀

hehe thanks but i didn't get into waterloo; I dropped out before the interview 😛. But hopefully you will be able to congratulate me for getting into uoft on the 24th😀
A big congrats to all of you guys who got into UW; now you won't be as nervous when the 24th rolls around 🙂

 

[helloeveryone]

oh gosh. my pcat and gpa are almost the same as beginners!
I'm a bit scared too...my interview seemed alright. not too bad but i dont think very good either. D:

Congrats to helloeveryone, mochaswirl, 1live2die, pharmacist1 and all other applicants on getting into UW!! 😀😀

Thank you so very much 🙂 I'm really proud for being potential classmates with such positive and kind people 😀

 

[mochaswirl]

Congrats and good job on getting in. you must be stocked. Are you accepting waterloo or going to UofT?

thanks!!! i am very excited. really unsure about which to accept (if i even get into uoft).

i was dead set on uoft but im really leaning towards waterloo now...im realizing going to toronto is going to cost a heck of a lot more, and being able to earn money while on co-op sounds quiet appealing, as does the opportunity to get experience so early on.

but im still really unsure..!

oh gosh. my pcat and gpa are almost the same as beginners!
I'm a bit scared too...my interview seemed alright. not too bad but i dont think very good either. D:

Congrats to helloeveryone, mochaswirl, 1live2die, pharmacist1 and all other applicants on getting into UW!! 😀😀

thank you!!!! 🙂

 

[1ive2die]

thanks!!! i am very excited. really unsure about which to accept (if i even get into uoft).

i was dead set on uoft but im really leaning towards waterloo now...im realizing going to toronto is going to cost a heck of a lot more, and being able to earn money while on co-op sounds quiet appealing, as does the opportunity to get experience so early on.

but im still really unsure..!

lol I'm the exact opposite of you. Initially I was set on Waterloo but now I'm really considering the cost. Even with co-op I'd barely cover my living expenses. Tuition would be all loan. If I get into U of T I can at least save the living costs by staying with my parents. But I know at U of T it will be really tough to get a paid position on my own. Hmmm tough decisions.

 

[mochaswirl]

lol I'm the exact opposite of you. Initially I was set on Waterloo but now I'm really considering the cost. Even with co-op I'd barely cover my living expenses. Tuition would be all loan. If I get into U of T I can at least save the living costs by staying with my parents. But I know at U of T it will be really tough to get a paid position on my own. Hmmm tough decisions.

Despite my parents living in the toronto area, it would still take me 1.5 hrs to get to uoft, which I definitely couldn't do, so that leaves moving out an option but cost of living in Toronto is way too high..so even making just enough to cover living expenses in Waterloo would be good enough...

That said i'd still be really hesitant to give up an offer from uoft..

Also with that combined bsc/pharmd at uoft, tuition is 34,000 so I'm guessing if the pharmd is approved thats what we would have to pay.

 

[masterfunk]

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[helloeveryone]

Also with that combined bsc/pharmd at uoft, tuition is 34,000 so I'm guessing if the pharmd is approved thats what we would have to pay.

OMG, that's INSANE 😱 If they keep the tuition that high next year, I'm willing to bet that all those who got accepted to both Waterloo and UofT will choose Waterloo (I would the first person to do that)

But, I highly doubt they would raise the tuition that much (maybe by $2000 - $3000 max). In fact, if you read the document carefully, on the bottom of the tuition chart you'll see this note:

"The total increase in annual per-student revenue will be approximately $23,300 ($22,000 tuition plus $1,300 operating grant). Students
in year 4 will receive a bursary of $22k from this revenue to offset the difference between the BSc/PharmD combined program fee and
the BSc program fee. "

For those interested: www.governingcouncil.utoronto.ca/AssetFactory.aspx?did=7901

 

[staffpro]

there is no way tuition for pharmacy is going to be above 30k a year (i think thats more than med and dental tuition - equipment fees that they pay), if it was 14k last year itll probably be around 16k this year... still a **** load of money that i really don't feel like taking loans out for and i feel like **** when my parents pay for my school.

and yea for all the commuters, if i get in i will probably commute at least for a year which adds another $150 (go pass) x 6-7 months $1000ish.

 

[masterfunk]

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[mochaswirl]

Ah! Thanks for pointing that out helloeveryone! I suppose that does make it better, but definitely still a lot of money.

 

[pharmacy0]

OMG, that's INSANE 😱 If they keep the tuition that high next year, I'm willing to bet that all those who got accepted to both Waterloo and UofT will choose Waterloo (I would the first person to do that)

But, I highly doubt they would raise the tuition that much (maybe by $2000 - $3000 max). In fact, if you read the document carefully, on the bottom of the tuition chart you'll see this note:

"The total increase in annual per-student revenue will be approximately $23,300 ($22,000 tuition plus $1,300 operating grant). Students
in year 4 will receive a bursary of $22k from this revenue to offset the difference between the BSc/PharmD combined program fee and
the BSc program fee. "

For those interested: www.governingcouncil.utoronto.ca/AssetFactory.aspx?did=7901

You always have great info, thanks for this!

 

[BigFan]

Despite my parents living in the toronto area, it would still take me 1.5 hrs to get to uoft, which I definitely couldn't do, so that leaves moving out an option but cost of living in Toronto is way too high..so even making just enough to cover living expenses in Waterloo would be good enough...

That said i'd still be really hesitant to give up an offer from uoft..

Also with that combined bsc/pharmd at uoft, tuition is 34,000 so I'm guessing if the pharmd is approved thats what we would have to pay.

As mentioned, no way it would be 34k for the tuition. Most is an extra 2k, so, 16k total which is still a large amount.

 

[PharMarley]

OMG, that's INSANE 😱 If they keep the tuition that high next year, I'm willing to bet that all those who got accepted to both Waterloo and UofT will choose Waterloo (I would the first person to do that)

But, I highly doubt they would raise the tuition that much (maybe by $2000 - $3000 max). In fact, if you read the document carefully, on the bottom of the tuition chart you'll see this note:

"The total increase in annual per-student revenue will be approximately $23,300 ($22,000 tuition plus $1,300 operating grant). Students
in year 4 will receive a bursary of $22k from this revenue to offset the difference between the BSc/PharmD combined program fee and
the BSc program fee. "

For those interested: www.governingcouncil.utoronto.ca/AssetFactory.aspx?did=7901

So I'm a bit confused. Does this mean that student that will be accepted this year will have to maintain a min of 3.3 GPA throughout years 1-3 in order to qualify for the PharmD program in the 4th year and if not then they recieve a Bsc. Pharmacy when they graduate?

 

[helloeveryone]

You always have great info, thanks for this!

Oh you're welcome 😉 I'm always looking to find more pharm-related stuff!

So I'm a bit confused. Does this mean that student that will be accepted this year will have to maintain a min of 3.3 GPA throughout years 1-3 in order to qualify for the PharmD program in the 4th year and if not then they recieve a Bsc. Pharmacy when they graduate?

No no, that document that I posted is only, and only applicable to those pharm students who are already in their 1st, 2nd, or 3rd year. That document basically describes how those students will be able to get both a BScPhm AND a PharmD (so 2 degrees), and for this they need to spend one year extra, but their tuition for that extra year will be similar to what they already pay. So to answer your question, no we won't be required to maintain a 3.3 GPA because we will not be doing the "combined BScPhm + PharmD"

For us, we'll be the first class taking the brand new curriculum that is already designed to have the "PharmD designation". Only thing is that the "name change" to PharmD hasn't been fully approved yet, but if the government approves it anytime within the next 4 years, then we'll graduate with a PharmD degree (which is highly probable.)


So I hope I'm not confusing you any further, matter of fact is that all these changes are somewhat confusing 🙄

 

[masterfunk]

1 more week!

 

[helloeveryone]

1 more week!

YAYYYY, and the countdown begins 😀

I can't believe that I'll be going through this waiting/count-down game once again, but heck, bring it on 😉

p.s. can't believe this is my 600th post on SDN, I guess you never know where life takes you!!!

 

[PharMarley]

YAYYYY, and the countdown begins 😀

I can't believe that I'll be going through this waiting/count-down game once again, but heck, bring it on 😉

p.s. can't believe this is my 600th post on SDN, I guess you never know where life takes you!!!

600th post!!! Wow your a Legend on here. And thanks for the clarification. It must be nice knowing that you are IN and now just playing the waiting game for UofT with little stress. I wish I was in the same boat as you🙁. I'm just worried as an OOP my odds suck. And I love Toronto and will most likely move there in the next four months and apply again if I was to recieve bad news.

 

[deleted287769]

i was dead set on uoft but im really leaning towards waterloo now...im realizing going to toronto is going to cost a heck of a lot more, and being able to earn money while on co-op sounds quiet appealing, as does the opportunity to get experience so early on.

Ugh. Same problem. Though, the advantages of going to Waterloo seem to be better in a financial and career perspective (with 4 paid co-op terms of hands-on experience), I have a feeling the small town environment won't do it for me. I love big cities, and visiting Toronto for those 3 days during my interview made me fall in love with the city. There just seems to be so many things to do there, and I want to be happy for the next four years. Also, I feel safer going with Toronto's program, since even though they recently revamped their curriculum to a PharmD, their pharmacy school is a lot more established than Waterloo's.

So many factors to consider. 🙁

 

[masterfunk]

As someone who currently lives downtown toronto, I can tell you that living here isnt as glamorous as you might think. Also the cost of living here is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[futurpharmacis]

As someone who currently lives downtown toronto, I can tell you that living here isnt as glamorous as you might think. Also the cost of living here is absolutely ridiculous.

I totally agree. Toronto also has a very depressing atmosphere. When I worked and went to school in Toronto for years, I felt that I could go crazy. The weather sucks and U of T has a icy and alienating feel to it. Don't believe me, visit the place more often. Don't let those historical and grandiose buildings at U of T fool you into thinking that it is some kind of magical place like it fooled me. Toronto charges money for everything. It is ridiculous. There are mean people in Toronto and people treat strangers like with unreasonable suspicion, which I find quite rude. The crime rate is high in Toronto,too. It is not as glamorous as outsiders may think.🙁 I am sorry if that is not what you want to hear.

 

[helloeveryone]

600th post!!! Wow your a Legend on here. And thanks for the clarification. It must be nice knowing that you are IN and now just playing the waiting game for UofT with little stress. I wish I was in the same boat as you🙁. I'm just worried as an OOP my odds suck. And I love Toronto and will most likely move there in the next four months and apply again if I was to recieve bad news.

DON'T worry, I'm sure they don't get that many OOP applicants to fill 10% of the spots, I'm sure you'll make it 😉

 

[1ive2die]

I totally agree. Toronto also has a very depressing atmosphere. When I worked and went to school in Toronto for years, I felt that I could go crazy. The weather sucks and U of T has a icy and alienating feel to it. Don't believe me, visit the place more often. Don't let those historical and grandiose buildings at U of T fool you into thinking that it is some kind of magical place like it fooled me. Toronto charges money for everything. It is ridiculous. There are mean people in Toronto and people treat strangers like with unreasonable suspicion, which I find quite rude. The crime rate is high in Toronto,too. It is not as glamorous as outsiders may think.🙁 I am sorry if that is not what you want to hear.

As a U of T student I'm not trying to be negative but I'm inclined to agree with this assessment. Although the pharmacy faculty seems to be incredibly nice, friendly, and encouraging, I'm sure the negativity and depressing atmosphere from the rest of the campus creeps in over time.

Also U of T does try to nickle and dime you for everything. Its not enough to pay tuition, there's all these hidden charges from lab fees to special edition books, ugh...really hated that during my undergrad.

The crime rate and weather is nothing to worry about though. No better, or worse than any other major city. The historic buildings are nice, if you're into that stuff.

 

[Gladd]

I'm oop.. And jumping the gun and saying I do get in...

What would the people from Toronto suggest in terms of housing?

 

[MargaretClaire]

I totally agree. Toronto also has a very depressing atmosphere. When I worked and went to school in Toronto for years, I felt that I could go crazy. The weather sucks and U of T has a icy and alienating feel to it. Don't believe me, visit the place more often. Don't let those historical and grandiose buildings at U of T fool you into thinking that it is some kind of magical place like it fooled me. Toronto charges money for everything. It is ridiculous. There are mean people in Toronto and people treat strangers like with unreasonable suspicion, which I find quite rude. The crime rate is high in Toronto,too. It is not as glamorous as outsiders may think.🙁 I am sorry if that is not what you want to hear.

While plenty of U of T students will possibly agree to what futurpharmacis has said, I have had a pretty good experience at U of T so far (minus the all the costs and expenses). Not going to lie, the atmosphere is a bit competitive in undergrad, but you get use to it... and not all people at UofT are like that. I've personally met a lot of nice people there and they are a big part of why I had a good undergrad experience.

I've lived in toronto my whole life, so I'm use to the weather. Don't know what's going on with the crime rate at the moment... maybe I should look it up... but it is probably like any other big city.

 

[helloeveryone]

Ok, so with regards to our tuition (since we talked about this recently), the tuition table is up on the UofT's website. As it shows, 1T5's first year tuition will be $13,884 which is only about a $1000 more than what first year students paid this past year. So rest assured people that our tution won't be something crazy like $34 K. And keep in mind that this is still a bit cheaper than Waterloo's tuition (which is about $15,000 I think).

source: http://www.provost.utoronto.ca/link/students/fees12/dom_pharmacy.htm

 

[Pharmaniac]

Ok, so with regards to our tuition (since we talked about this recently), the tuition table is up on the UofT's website. As it shows, 1T5's first year tuition will be $13,884 which is only about a $1000 more than what first year students paid this past year. So rest assured people that our tution won't be something crazy like $34 K. And keep in mind that this is still a bit cheaper than Waterloo's tuition (which is about $15,000 I think).

source: http://www.provost.utoronto.ca/link/students/fees12/dom_pharmacy.htm

Wow we were just talking in the car about it and here it is!! haha- Good job! 👍

P.S. Best of luck! 😉

 

[helloeveryone]

Wow we were just talking in the car about it and here it is!! haha- Good job! 👍

P.S. Best of luck! 😉

Lol, I know... sometimes you just need to dig up and find the information, I guess 😉

p.s. thanks and right back at ya 🙂

 

[1ive2die]

Ok, so with regards to our tuition (since we talked about this recently), the tuition table is up on the UofT's website. As it shows, 1T5's first year tuition will be $13,884 which is only about a $1000 more than what first year students paid this past year. So rest assured people that our tution won't be something crazy like $34 K. And keep in mind that this is still a bit cheaper than Waterloo's tuition (which is about $15,000 I think).

source: http://www.provost.utoronto.ca/link/students/fees12/dom_pharmacy.htm

Don't forget an additional ~$1067 in incidental fees on top of the $13,884. Total will come up to about $15,000.

Is Waterloo $15,000 including incidental fees? That's what I gathered from the website.

Edit: Not sure if you guys realized this but Waterloo is only 7 academic terms, not 8. So I'm guessing students would save half a year's tuition (~$7500) compared to U of T? Can anyone confirm?

 

[deleted287769]

As someone who currently lives downtown toronto, I can tell you that living here isnt as glamorous as you might think. Also the cost of living here is absolutely ridiculous.

I appreciate all the input, you guys. I'm more inclined to believe in what you say because, you're right, I've never experienced Toronto 365 days like you have. And i have a friend who's doing her undergrad there, and she seems to say really similar negative things about Toronto, though i couldnt really figure out why. Although, I think vancouvers cost of living is worse than toronto's, so there won't be much of a change for me in that department. I am now leaning towards Waterloo, though I'm afraid of being isolated for 4 years, you know what I mean?

 

[futurpharmacis]

While plenty of U of T students will possibly agree to what futurpharmacis has said, I have had a pretty good experience at U of T so far (minus the all the costs and expenses). Not going to lie, the atmosphere is a bit competitive in undergrad, but you get use to it... and not all people at UofT are like that. I've personally met a lot of nice people there and they are a big part of why I had a good undergrad experience.

I've lived in toronto my whole life, so I'm use to the weather. Don't know what's going on with the crime rate at the moment... maybe I should look it up... but it is probably like any other big city.

While I agree that friends will help you through U of T, but not all students are lucky enough to find good friends. The staff at U of T may be nice or (substitude a positive quality here), but not all students will have a good time at U of T. Unfortunately, that is the truth.

 

[iicecream]

Lol, I know... sometimes you just need to dig up and find the information, I guess 😉

p.s. thanks and right back at ya 🙂

I just love how you know everything LOL 👍

 

[MargaretClaire]

While I agree that friends will help you through U of T, but not all students are lucky enough to find good friends. The staff at U of T may be nice or (substitude a positive quality here), but not all students will have a good time at U of T. Unfortunately, that is the truth.

Yup, that's true lol

 

[helloeveryone]

I just love how you know everything LOL 👍

Lol, I wish I knew everything 😛

Don't forget an additional ~$1067 in incidental fees on top of the $13,884. Total will come up to about $15,000.

Is Waterloo $15,000 including incidental fees? That's what I gathered from the website.

Edit: Not sure if you guys realized this but Waterloo is only 7 academic terms, not 8. So I'm guessing students would save half a year's tuition (~$7500) compared to U of T? Can anyone confirm?

That's absolutely right. However, when I went to my interview for Waterloo, Ken (the admission officer) told us that if Waterloo adapts the PharmD designation (to be on par with UofT) then Waterloo has to add an extra academic term. So you would end up doing 8 academic terms and graduate with a PharmD (if it's all approved.)

I totally agree. Toronto also has a very depressing atmosphere. When I worked and went to school in Toronto for years, I felt that I could go crazy. The weather sucks and U of T has a icy and alienating feel to it. Don't believe me, visit the place more often. Don't let those historical and grandiose buildings at U of T fool you into thinking that it is some kind of magical place like it fooled me. Toronto charges money for everything. It is ridiculous. There are mean people in Toronto and people treat strangers like with unreasonable suspicion, which I find quite rude. The crime rate is high in Toronto,too. It is not as glamorous as outsiders may think.🙁 I am sorry if that is not what you want to hear.

You definitely have very solid points man. But I doubt that UofT's experience is going to be THAT negative after all. For one thing, I know in pharmacy there is this community feel where all students know and help each other... and to me, that's what matters most because I'll be spending most of my time with those kind of people. And with regards to weather, Toronto's weather is not actually that different from most other Ontario cities. In fact, we had a MUCH heavier winter this year in London compared to Toronto (ask anyone who went to UWO, they'll tell you)!

Overall, if someone wants to have a good time, they'll have good time no matter where they are! That's just my 2 cent 😉

 

[BigFan]

I'm oop.. And jumping the gun and saying I do get in...

What would the people from Toronto suggest in terms of housing?

When I was talking to one of the first year students there before my interview, as I recall, she mentioned there was a building that was housing mostly pharmacy students. She also made a mention the Bay street area is more expensive and that's where she lives. Unfortunately, I can't recall the other street names that she mentioned :/

Ok, so with regards to our tuition (since we talked about this recently), the tuition table is up on the UofT's website. As it shows, 1T5's first year tuition will be $13,884 which is only about a $1000 more than what first year students paid this past year. So rest assured people that our tution won't be something crazy like $34 K. And keep in mind that this is still a bit cheaper than Waterloo's tuition (which is about $15,000 I think).

source: http://www.provost.utoronto.ca/link/students/fees12/dom_pharmacy.htm

Nice, nice, not bad, thanks 🙂

 

[KingOfDoctors]

I totally agree. Toronto also has a very depressing atmosphere. When I worked and went to school in Toronto for years, I felt that I could go crazy. The weather sucks and U of T has a icy and alienating feel to it. Don't believe me, visit the place more often. Don't let those historical and grandiose buildings at U of T fool you into thinking that it is some kind of magical place like it fooled me. Toronto charges money for everything. It is ridiculous. There are mean people in Toronto and people treat strangers like with unreasonable suspicion, which I find quite rude. The crime rate is high in Toronto,too. It is not as glamorous as outsiders may think.🙁 I am sorry if that is not what you want to hear.

As an UofT undergrad for the past 3 years...I approve this message👍

I was told not to go to UofT all the time when I was in high school and yet I still went. I guess people won't appreciate the wrath of UofT until they experience it first hand...lol

 

[futurpharmacis]

Lol, I wish I knew everything 😛



That's absolutely right. However, when I went to my interview for Waterloo, Ken (the admission officer) told us that if Waterloo adapts the PharmD designation (to be on par with UofT) then Waterloo has to add an extra academic term. So you would end up doing 8 academic terms and graduate with a PharmD (if it's all approved.)



You definitely have very solid points man. But I doubt that UofT's experience is going to be THAT negative after all. For one thing, I know in pharmacy there is this community feel where all students know and help each other... and to me, that's what matters most because I'll be spending most of my time with those kind of people. And with regards to weather, Toronto's weather is not actually that different from most other Ontario cities. In fact, we had a MUCH heavier winter this year in London compared to Toronto (ask anyone who went to UWO, they'll tell you)!

Overall, if someone wants to have a good time, they'll have good time no matter where they are! That's just my 2 cent 😉

I know what I wrote sounds far-fetching but you should visit Toronto more often. It is like people in the Eastern countries do not have an accurate idea of what is it is like to live in Western countries until they live there for years.

 

[futurpharmacis]

As an UofT undergrad for the past 3 years...I approve this message👍

I was told not to go to UofT all the time when I was in high school and yet I still went. I guess people won't appreciate the wrath of UofT until they experience it first hand...lol

Thank you 🙂.

 

[mochaswirl]

That's absolutely right. However, when I went to my interview for Waterloo, Ken (the admission officer) told us that if Waterloo adapts the PharmD designation (to be on par with UofT) then Waterloo has to add an extra academic term. So you would end up doing 8 academic terms and graduate with a PharmD (if it's all approved.)

wow, for some reason i remember hearing from ken that if uoft gets approved waterloo will also get approved. i don't remember this thing about an extra term 🙁, but it makes complete sense...

this just makes the decision that much harder (here's hoping there's even a decision to make)....

 

[BigFan]

I totally agree. Toronto also has a very depressing atmosphere. When I worked and went to school in Toronto for years, I felt that I could go crazy. The weather sucks and U of T has a icy and alienating feel to it. Don't believe me, visit the place more often. Don't let those historical and grandiose buildings at U of T fool you into thinking that it is some kind of magical place like it fooled me. Toronto charges money for everything. It is ridiculous. There are mean people in Toronto and people treat strangers like with unreasonable suspicion, which I find quite rude. The crime rate is high in Toronto,too. It is not as glamorous as outsiders may think.🙁 I am sorry if that is not what you want to hear.

Not sure how I missed this, but, I see what you mean. Having spent several days in Toronto before my interview and walking through a decent portion of it, it did seem to have a gloomy atmosphere. Maybe it was the weather, but, like my last visit, I just didn't like it as much. Maybe if I lived there, it'll grow on me, but, as it stands, I enjoy where I'm living much more 😛

 

[1ive2die]

wow, for some reason i remember hearing from ken that if uoft gets approved waterloo will also get approved. i don't remember this thing about an extra term 🙁, but it makes complete sense...

this just makes the decision that much harder (here's hoping there's even a decision to make)....

I remember hearing this too, not from Ken but from some other students. Does anyone have any solid confirmation about Waterloo's PharmD eligibility status? Waterloo doesn't seem to be pushing for or advertising the PharmD as much as U of T though.

 

[Fly to the Sky]

6 more days!

 

[Fightorflight]

I remember hearing this too, not from Ken but from some other students. Does anyone have any solid confirmation about Waterloo's PharmD eligibility status? Waterloo doesn't seem to be pushing for or advertising the PharmD as much as U of T though.

Well they can't guarantee it in the same way that UofT can't.

But the curricula are nearly identical now. Waterloo has had the 2 years of university prerequisites + new (PharmD) professional classes from the beginning. UofT only implemented those changes this year.

 

[mochaswirl]

ok i'm a bit confused about this requiring an extra term for pharmD approval, if you look at uoft's curriculum, it seems that you only take courses for years 1-3 and then year 4 is all experiential education rotations and no courses. So that puts uoft at 6 terms of academic courses and waterloo at 7...

 

[mochaswirl]

I remember hearing this too, not from Ken but from some other students. Does anyone have any solid confirmation about Waterloo's PharmD eligibility status? Waterloo doesn't seem to be pushing for or advertising the PharmD as much as U of T though.

it's possible this is the case because waterloo's bsc program isnt accredited yet. maybe once they get accredited they would push for it as well.

 

[byork]

No no, that document that I posted is only, and only applicable to those pharm students who are already in their 1st, 2nd, or 3rd year. That document basically describes how those students will be able to get both a BScPhm AND a PharmD (so 2 degrees), and for this they need to spend one year extra, but their tuition for that extra year will be similar to what they already pay. So to answer your question, no we won't be required to maintain a 3.3 GPA because we will not be doing the "combined BScPhm + PharmD"

It just says that tuition for year 4 will be similar to year 4 in the BscPhm program. Year 5 will still be $30k+, but then again-- you get two degrees and no entry-level PharmD.

It's a tough call whether that's a good deal.

 

[helloeveryone]

It just says that tuition for year 4 will be similar to year 4 in the BscPhm program. Year 5 will still be $30k+, but then again-- you get two degrees and no entry-level PharmD.

It's a tough call whether that's a good deal.

Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense.

BTW, since you are a pharmacy student, do you know if the entry level PharmD has been approved yet for 1T5??? I've asked them many times via email and each time they just say "it's in the process of getting approved by the government." I just wanna know what 1T5's will graduate with, PharmD or BScPhm?

 

[PharMarley]

I heard through the grapevines that Pharmaceutical companies and drug stores offer pharmacy students bursaries (pay for their tuition) if the students agree to work for them for X amount of years upon graduation. Is there any truth to this?

 

[PhArMaCiSt1]

I heard through the grapevines that Pharmaceutical companies and drug stores offer pharmacy students bursaries (pay for their tuition) if the students agree to work for them for X amount of years upon graduation. Is there any truth to this?

Yes they actually do but I think they pay some of your tuition and you need to maintain a certain gpa; not 100% sure. But, I have been cautioned by pharmacist friends to not sign up for it because they trick you into it and then when you graduate they change the rules. I know of one incident where the student signed on hoping to get paid 35 or 40$ an hr and when she started the job they reduced it to 30$. If anyone has any other information please share 🙂

p.s. We are soooo close only 5 days away

 

[byork]

Thanks for the clarification, that makes sense.

BTW, since you are a pharmacy student, do you know if the entry level PharmD has been approved yet for 1T5??? I've asked them many times via email and each time they just say "it's in the process of getting approved by the government." I just wanna know what 1T5's will graduate with, PharmD or BScPhm?

Nobody knows yet. It hasn't been approved by the government. It may or it may not be.

If the government approves the PharmD after you graduate and there weren't any significant curriculum changes demanded by the government, you can probably be awarded one retroactively with a processing fee of $60 and a mailing fee of $20 😛